 Boss talk, we gon' do it how you want, boss talk. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique organization. Boy, he's CEO and I'm here with a lovely, amazing official, Mr. Jamaica, what's going on? Not even on my dad walk on. Man, hey, man, we got a special guest here today, man. It's got a Mido introduction, man. This guy been doing this to the nigga comfortable in his seat over there, too. Yeah, that nigga done got real comfortable over here. The mics and all that, it ain't new to him. You know, he been true to this for a minute now, man. My boy Mr. Hit that is in the building. What's happening, what's happening, what's happening, what's happening? Man, hey, man, say, man, look, man, we go a long ways back, bro. But at the end of the day, man, you know, we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for God. I gotta always start the show off like that, man. No doubt, no doubt, no doubt. Man, so, you know, I know I'm gonna let her get at you. You know, she been, she been on this interview. This is the one she always was pushing for. Yeah, she's like, I gotta get him in here. I guess she gon' take you down that rabbit hole. So this time it's gon' be like, okay. Yeah, I'm gonna go on and see where you came from. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because, you know, cause we know you, but I don't know, know you. You know what I mean? So I want all of our audience to learn about you, learn to love you. I wanna know where you're from, how you were raised. I wanna know everything. No doubt, no doubt, no doubt. Well, just tell, you shoot the questions off and I'm gonna respond quickly. Go ahead, no, like, where were you raised? Come on. We're gonna jump it out first off, you know, I'm a pleasant girl, baby. As a matter of fact, we in the environment where I grew up, you know what I'm saying? Like, y'all are littered around the corner from my mom out. I used to actually shop at the store walking to this joint, cause y'all were like the first people to have a, what was that brand I used to wear all the time? Was it Kooji? It was a Kooji, it was a Kooji, was it a Sawa and Kree? I mean, we had it every time, bro. We carried it hardy, we carried everything. I think it was the Air Hardy and the Kooji. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know of some other brands. Cause I remember it was Kooji, I think it was. Kooji, I was like, I was literally like going mad crazy over the Kooji for sure. Yeah, man, I just, I didn't get to see you much back then cause I was working so much. I used to, I was good. Yeah, I wasn't here back then. And still, you know, still work on the same spot and everything, you know, it's just, you know, but you know, time then permitted me to where I come in here and sit down after work and talk a little bit. But you know, you know, just I always used to hear about you cause of the song, you know what I mean? When that song was popping, you was coming over here. You know what I'm saying? Like that song, you're like, y'all paid a lot into the whole entity. I missed to hear that. Yeah. For the simple fact that like it was jumped out by, your boy stayed fresh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all had me in that gear, so, you know what I'm saying? You know, and that's that. And he always loved to dress. He loved to dress. Always. I was spending my last dollars on some clothes. See, back then you didn't have to have, you didn't have to have money like that. You just had to look like money. Exactly. So I was spending my last little paycheck of her just getting me a shirt or something. So yeah. Well, you always loved to dress even as a baby. You know what's so crazy? I grew up in the, I grew up during the time when I wanted to wear throwback jerseys like real, real much, like bad. But my mom, she was a church going lady. So the only thing she was cool with was button-up shirts. So luckily enough, when I started to get like in high school, button-up shirts was cool. Like the little dress shirts, Ursa Jay-Z that's wearing a big oversized button-up shirts. But I used to love clothes. We just couldn't afford them. Right. How many of y'all were there? It was just me. I had a big brother. Had a big brother here? Yeah. Well, I still got a big brother. I got a big brother here. I got one of the hat. Okay. But like my big brother, he a preacher. So he never cared about clothes. He didn't care about that. And he know how sometimes a lot of kids get to wear their big brother clothes or their big cousin clothes. I didn't have that. My brother didn't know how to dress. So it was like, I gotta go get it on my own. No, man. We definitely been watching your movements ever since you was a kid, man. And that's what I mean. Like I said, we was talking on fair. Like you, Taylor Gabriel and all the guys that grew up in this area. No, I'm most definitely. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I'm proud to see y'all. Like when I see you at Big T or wherever I would see you at, I know already where you come from. And I'm like, okay, I see how God moving with him. Didn't have them boys and have a family. I'm watching all that. That's the part I was proud of most of all is to see the family and see you active in your children's life. That's the part I was most proud of. Yeah, that's cool. Cause you know, I grew up with a father that was like, he was the father for everybody on the block. Yeah. So a lot of people didn't have a dad. So my dad, it was like, he the one that bought the basketball goal for the block. Rolled the basketball at everybody out from my yard. You know what I'm saying? Ain't no cussing and nothing of that going on. So it was just- So you had a very good example. Yeah, so I grew up in a two-parent home. My mom and my dad was married before they even had kids. They still married right now. They're going on like, but 40, matter of fact, it's gonna be 41 years this year. Well, you're a statistic boy. Yeah, man. I'm gonna tell you, it's a lot of people sitting that seat that answer this question that she asked all the time and it came, they don't see that, bro. They said that's an anomaly. That's like, it doesn't happen in a black household. It just happened like that. She grew up like that though. I didn't, but you know, at the end of the day, I learned to love, you know, just the unity that I've seen with her mother and her father as we were together. And it does, it gives you something to stand for. It gives you something to say, hey, man, we shooting for a goal. I gotta be there for my wife and kids. Yeah, it's rare, it's rare. Cause you know, I'm around so many like street cats, you know, dancers and all that. So it's like, it's unfair for me, territory to be like that. Your mom and dad is still together. So like when I go to my kids' football game, my mom and dad both there. So they be like, y'all mom, they cool? Like, it's crazy, but it's normal to me. So it's just it. Yeah, I think, like I said, the thing I like about you, man, is that you didn't, you know, when I look at the guys on the song with you and everything else, I'm looking at the, I mean, I don't know where those guys are at, but I could steadily see your movement and God's showing favor in your life to keep you, you know, relevant. Yeah, you didn't stop, you didn't stop. You know what's so, well, he transformed. You know what's so crazy? I did stop, I stopped for a second because like the group broke up. It was like, you know what I'm saying, pride and, you know, like, like jealousy and stuff like that. So it made me stop. And then I went, I went off and how long? I stopped for like about a year, like a year or two. It didn't seem like it was. Yeah, because like all the while while I was doing the hit there, I was still in school. So I was still going to college. I was still working. So like money was like always consistent for me. So I don't believe in one hustle. Did you get depressed? Were you depressed when it stopped? No, I was kind of, I was really kind of relieved because I was just spending, I was looking at it like as much money as I was making, the money was like coming in the front door, believing out the garage because I had to spend for the image. So I was spending so much money, I wasn't saving. So when I did like slow down, got me a regular job, I started to actually save money. I started to see money. I wanted to slow down, have my first son. And then it got complacent. Like it was like, man, this is, this is cool, but it's boring. Yeah. So I just jumped back in the water, just on some like one of old DJ grab me and was like, man, come back, man, just come back and just try this, do this, do this. And I did it. And it wound up taking off. And then they let me like host the event, a concert. And like, then nobody knew I could talk, but if you were hanging around me, you know, I don't know how to shut my mouth up. So they let me like MC or event. And everybody was like, bro, you good. And I was like, man, would you, would you start going to come back and work? And so it took off from that. But before that, when you were younger. Yeah, I want to go back a little bit. What did you want to be? I always want to be on radio. I went to Lincoln. I went to radio television, Magnus. Really? I always wanted to do that. So you always wanted to do that. Yeah, like I was, I was a big influence to, to Martin, you know what I'm saying? WZ, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Watching, uh, what was my guy that he interviewed, it was just one of the best interviews. Award never deal with, uh, man to stop playing. Personnel? Uh, Boynell. Boynell. We are exactly you talking. I know exactly what we're talking aboutci I tell somebody that the other day it was somebody I was like dude, come on man. This Hollywood bro, we're just talking. You know, cause at a lot of times, I feel like a lot of criminals Be playing their role like that. So that's so true for. To be in that time period I was like, you do if you. R boarding in there, I don't remember that Hold on. I was like, man, that's crazy. And I could always like play that back. Like, dang, like, that was one of those. Like, man, that's what I want to do. I want to be able to interview people. Yeah. And so watching morning, I was like, man, I wound up going to school. I went to same, I mean, I went to Spruce for like a day and a half. My mama took me out to school. She was like, now you can't go here because I was from the Grove. I had too many friends. And she was like, you going? Bad influence. And she was like, you're going to Lincoln. And like a Lincoln wouldn't accept me. So I had to apply for the Magnet. Got in at the Magnet at Lincoln. I heard Magnet schools are really good. Yeah, it was cool because it's really cool if you know what you want. Like some kids don't know what they want to do. But some kids do. So if you do know what you want to do and you put them in that lane at an earlier age is giving them a push store and a head store. But what's the difference? Okay, you went to school for radio. Radio and television. And television. But some people don't even go to school for that and just try to jump into the industry. What's the benefit of actually going to school for that? Just so you know some vocabulary words on certain stuff. That's basically it. That's basically it. Because now you got YouTube, university. You can learn anything. So like even when I graduated and went to college and I did the little radio at my college. So I ran it for a little while. That was cool. But if you don't, it's all about who you know when you know right time and right preparation. To get on at the radio station, you got a better chance of making it to the NBA, NFL, the hockey and baseball league. All combined. Because you got to think about it. When we grew up, who did we listen to on K-104? It was Nannette Lee, Skip Murphy. It was then for like, what, 20, 25 years? Yeah, you talking about the, because I'm old. So you go back to Dr. Rock and all that. Exactly. How I go all the way back. Think about how long you heard Dr. Rock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it is. Long time. I had to go to work. I had to go to work. You wasn't even, you was just 3-2-1, Miggle. And I remember coming just, I've been out here a long time. It's going to be the same voice. Because it's just a familiarity to everything. All that cessation changes up. And because I've seen people who leave. If they leave, they leave them for the promotion. That's right. They're going to a higher plateau. So it's like the eyes, it's like, man, if you're going to get in the game and you get in, you got to just sit back and wait your turn. You better all going to go work out some jumpers every day and try to go make it to the NBA, D-League or something. We going to come back to that. I want to go back to just, when you first, the Mr. Hit That movement. Started the curve? Yeah, I just want to talk about that because the boogie movement and all that came from that, that whole, you know, that whole aura. The golden era. That was so fun. And a lot of people still like, Gator Man was on here the other day and he was like, man, they need to embrace that. We dropped the bomb. Because that's the foundation, you know what I mean? We dropped the bomb. Yeah. So just tell me a little bit how you, you killed that whole situation. Because I hated it. But I just want to know how y'all came up with that whole concept. You might have told it before, but just because you got younger folks that don't understand. That's right. So let's talk about that. It's crazy. I don't even talk about it like I see TikTok videos or I see like Instagram viral videos with me dancing. And people be like, bro, that's you? And I'll be like, yeah, that's crazy. Even my kids now, they see it. They be like, that ain't true. Like, because they old enough to know, like they see the video, some of the video. And I laugh. I'll be like, that's me. Do you dance around them? No. I seen you hit it when I had to be lying, nigga. What? On my Instagram, nigga. I seen you, nigga. One night I woke up, I said, this nigga, he just still got it, man. He still got it. I just be enjoying myself, man. I really stopped with the dancing to a certain extent because I transitioned into the fact that I wanted people to understand the power of my voice. Yeah. Because your voice can't be as big if, oh man, excuse me. That's how y'all know, I'm leaving baseball practice with these kids. So it was just like understanding the fact that it's like, amen, dancing was a great run and it can't be duplicated. It just got to be transformed to the next generation. A lot of people want to relive that boogie era. We can't. We just got to embrace it and appreciate the time that we did have while we did it. And it's cool that the young generation are starting they own wave, but let them form their own wave and we need to embrace that wave because we know what we lost because we didn't embrace our wave. We were so busy trying to down our wave that the outside world loved us, but our own people hated us. I kind of agree with you, but I kind of don't. Me and Bobo Luciano was just talking and it's something like, I was at the store and he was like, a trap boy came in and he didn't even know who I was. He was like, I'm Bobo Luciano, man. I just want to tell you, I like what you're doing. He's like, I don't know you. It was kind of like them, you know, he needed to do his research. I'm like, no, we need to be there for our people. So that's why I said, I kind of agree, but I don't because what you did means so much still to this day to where we need to educate them so they understand that they got a foundation. You know what's so crazy? We, as when you are topped out, if you don't go reach out and hold your hand down and let somebody and pull somebody up that's in a new generation or go show support while you still got that buzz, it don't, it don't carry the same weight because if you falling off and everybody forgot about you and you weren't around her, talking about man, you don't know me, you don't, man. No. And why should I? Because it's like, how can we, how can we show as the youngsters coming up, like how can we show love and when you was on, you didn't help us. So we look at, that's how. I know, man. It sucks. But at the same time, it's like, I think Dallas is one of the only, we probably can be other cities, because I don't know about other cities, but I think Dallas, we do not, we don't show love to our audience. I just can't. No, they don't. I can't, I still don't agree because you got niggas like Mr. Hit That that can't really put that umbrella on because he's still relevant to these kids, man. So it's a whole different ballgame. But I hope people haven't. Yeah, but he readjusted. So I can't let you get under that umbrella with a lot of the old niggas that say that. You know, you got some old niggas that say that because they ain't doing nothing, but you still doing something. That's a totally different ballgame for me. I'm just telling you how I feel about it. But hold on. You are definitely right about that, though. But although he's kept himself relevant, some people don't know him as that older person. They know him as this radio personality. They don't even know him. They don't even know. They don't hide it. You know what's so crazy? They don't know that I'm Mr. Hit That, the song. Right. They don't know that. I get that. But then you still got the power and the ability to educate them because of the role that you put. Yeah. And see, once I do tell them, they be like, what? Yeah. It flips them out. Yeah. But it's like they know. They know. Because you gotta think about it. I was under three umbrellas. I was under the 05, 0607, which is the little wheel umbrella. The watch me do this. Yeah. Watch me do that. We come under that era as a as a teenager in high school, graduated to we made our own era, which was the boogie era, then passed on to the next era where we had the yellow beads and trap boys, mode threes and so on and so on. So I didn't been under three umbrellas of being relevant. So it's dope to keep this wave going on and, and watching a new, the new generation come along, the new rappers come along and make that buzz and keep the city afloat. So it's dope. I really like, like the reason, and don't, don't think it's strange because I, I think I remember having the same conversation with Renetta Spencer. It's certain people that can bridge the gap and you one of them, just like I told her, you know, you know Renetta, right? Yeah. So you guys are in an era where she was with, with big Mo Nem and all of them. And, and now she dealing with DJ Cho's Nem. She, and she's in that era. She's in that lane to where she can do that. Cause y'all seen all of these levels, like you just spoke up. So y'all can speak to each one of them and other people can't do that. You see what I'm saying? I'm just telling you how I'm looking at it, because it's special. You know what I mean? Cause some of these younger people are going to look at, if like an older person comes to them and they're like, well that's your era. Y'all don't know nothing about this new movement. And that's what's so crazy. So they don't listen. And that's, and that's crazy because the fact that we don't have OGs consistently guiding the youth in a manner where it's not disrespectful. Because it's conversation in the way you communicate with an individual that's going to get the whatever, whatever point across. And a lot of old heads can't come at a youngster because they're on top of the world right now. First off, they're young. Then second of all, they got the fame. They just don't got the money yet. So without the money, they feel like, shoot, you just trying to get my fame. Yeah, that's a lot of people to think like that. But the kids, they don't understand that it's like, hey man, you can get an old crowd in your young crowd and really connect in a bigger platform. But without the lack of proper communication with Dallas is not executing that. Like I said, I guess, and I agree a hundred percent, but I also know on this other side, I look at the different things, man. When you blessed and you know the power of God, you don't even like, like I never thought that I'd be talking to a hot boy, Wes or whoever these niggas call me. Hey man, you're okay to seek out the smoothies. All of these different people that have come through that you meet. No doubt. And the same thing with you, you dealing with these people. And at the end of the day, you are different than most. You can't get on the umbrella. You are an OG to a lot of people. And so therefore, looking at what the other old Jesus doing, you can't get caught up in it because you something different, bro. That's all I'm saying, bro. Yeah. So I can't play that because I could say the same thing and just bring old niggas on here. Yeah. You understand what I'm saying? But I don't. I got, can it be them just left the other night? Yeah. And I'm dancing with C4S and this on. So you can't, don't play games, nigga. I already know that God got me in a situation where I'm dealing with these people and I'm able to talk with them and we able to converse and you even more so better than me because of the way that you was knitted into the whole situation. No doubt. No doubt. Yeah. I'm on you in here. Yeah. It's definitely right about that, man. Hey, man, you ain't saying nothing wrong now. And I love the energy you put out for all these artists, man. I see you when you dance and then you play their song. Yeah, man. And they gone watching everything. You know what's so crazy? Like growing up, like actually growing up, riding in the car with my pops, listening to music, listening to like him through the spice one era and then like actually listening to like, you know, like the feel of fresh boys. You know, that's some real Dallas. 80 vibes. Yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I go back from that era to now where we actually get an opportunity where it's me who get to put on for the culture, like who then puts me so much to the city and a lot of people, it's a household name and to be able to give people opportunities and change people's lives even if it's just, hey, Mom, I'm on the radio. Just giving that opportunity because you got to think about it. It wasn't a lot of people that's from the city, like there's actually not flown in but really grown from the roots of Dallas, Texas that's getting the opportunity to be on the radio and play local music. Yeah, no, you different. And like I said, a lot of the guys I see here, you know, a prophet is without honor in his own country. So I see all of the people coming in, you know, Vita been on here, J-Cruz been on here. All of the people, only one that really was, Tasia Alexa, she from here. Yeah, you know, but it's certain ones that are from here but you see the ones that are really elevating and thriving here, you know, that are not from here and then you see the ones that are organic like yourself. And believe me, I'm watching it. I see everything. Like I said, I go back to Dr. Rod, bro. I went to the playoffs club, RJ by the lake. I'm a real nigga that I've been in the streets. Like before. This a real OG environment. Yeah, baby, it's all that. So the owner knew the owners, you know, and stuff like that and hustled in them whole. So I'm a different type dude. And I know. And so when niggas see me sitting here and mess their head, I'm like, who is that nigga? Man, how that nigga going to just say that nigga? I said it proudly. It's hard to deal with me because you don't know what you're dealing with. You're like, oh, you know him? How you know him? Yeah, nigga. You know everybody. That'd be the code. That'd be the code. It's a cheat code for individuals when you tapped in in so many different environments that it's like, hey, man, once a person check his resume, I'm like, dang, I don't know. You know, damn. And so I probably can't whip the wool over him because he knows too many people. Like he already know the game and that'd be the gift and the curse. Some people don't want to deal with you now because I can't even work my jelly on him no more. They didn't know how to spray strawberry jelly all over his bread. You know what I'm saying? He already know. You know what I'm saying? He ain't no more jam on it. So, you know, that's what come with the game, too, though, now. But how can we bring Dallas together? Because I know that, okay, they call you the mayor of Dallas. Yeah, for sure. So since you're the mayor, you're supposed to bring it together. How can we do that? You know what's so crazy? I have this talk all the time, like just barbershop talks or people just shopping in the mall or whatever. And it sucks because, man, I was like, I was like, I was like one of the few guys that could actually co-mingle on both sides of a lot of different scenarios. Not just the scenario everybody know. It's just like in a lot of different cases. Like as far as I could be with the street guys, I can be with the swipers and the finesses, the robbers and the nine to fives. And I can be with everybody. And I don't got to turn into a chameleon. I could just be me. And they're going to accept me from just my whole livelihood. So when I say that, my only solution is somebody from Dallas that's actually from the D has to get financially wealthy in a position to control the market. Yeah. Until that happens, the Dallas can be controlled because we run under the Wild Wild West Laws. Whoever's hot and rolling, they're rolling with their camp. And if their camp can't benefit nobody else, then shit, they're going to try to form their own camp over there. And they're going to go against whatever. I seen it with the Dallas Boogie scene. We was all partners. Everybody was partners. Paper chasers, T-Wheel and Nature Walk, Trelly, Prince Rick with the hit that, head beat them with the whole CSB movement. Everybody was partners. Everybody was having fun. Today starts saying, hey man, we couldn't chicks. Now it's a competition. We ain't one big group. When we kicked it for two years, no problems. Matter of fact, we fought together. Like everybody was beautiful. We got pictures of everybody vibed out strong. B-Hemp. G.S. Boyz. Pat Pimp. He go back that far. Come on. Come on. We talking party boys. Party boys, yeah. And you got to think about party boys like the Cedar Hill Lancaster sign. Yeah, yeah. You got paper chasers. Oak Cliff. You got CSB growth side. You got Trelly and Rick, the other side of Grove. East Dallas. You had all B-Hemp over there in the Orleton side. Everybody was cool. Everybody kicked the head of blasts until they cut that first chick. Oh man. Money is the root of all of you. The love of money is the root of all of you. Come on man, they started cutting chicks. So now it's like, hey bro, hey man, we got to kind of like get away from them because we don't want them to take our way. Hey man. But we didn't have nobody who had a bank row who could control us like, hey, everybody's going to get a chance to eat. Everybody's going to eat. Everybody's going to eat. Y'all just all keep riding off each other's waves. Hey, when he get booked here, you bring them under you. Boom, boom, boom. So now when they see them, y'all get high. Organization. It wasn't no structure because who would have thought that we was actually going to be getting this type of money actually blowing up because we never seen it from Dallas. You see, that's how people always talk about Atlanta. That's why they're always comparing Atlanta like, how can Atlanta do that? Why can't we do this? They got the big dog. I'm going to give you an example. Atlanta really don't do it. The catch is they make it so star studded in their own entity that the people looking in think it's bigger than what it really is. They beat that too. It's just the difference between them. They keep their business intact like this. The only business that we didn't just heard about is real crazy. It's the young thug situation, wife and Luchi. All the other stuff is in house. In house. You know what I'm saying? All the other stuff, it was in house, but it just erupted to the Internet and the Internet started giving up all the game and exposing it. If people didn't know that that was going on, Dallas was on top of the world. Okay. And I definitely know you was in the midst of it. You lived it. When it comes down to the music, let's move up a little bit. I have one question about the group before you move on. I know a lot of people still creating groups and trying to do their own thing and whatever. If you had to look back on the group and the things you know now, is there a way you could have... Oh, yeah. What do you think? Advise some of these people that are doing that not to make the same mistakes that you did and how can be a successful group? When you're dealing with a group, you got to put personal feelings behind. I mean, everybody's going to have feelings and everybody's going to be personal because you're dealing with humans. However, you can't put your feelings over the business. And I wish I could have... I wish I would have had enough sense because I had too much pride, too. I ain't gonna lie. So, it was some things that was done to me that I was like, hey, look, I never let y'all play with me like that, ever. So, instead of me just saying, you know what? Hey, y'all tried it. Hey, let's get through it. We all got no stage without them and y'all don't got no stage without me. So, we all need each other. We all want entity because the world grew to love the group more so than just me or just them. So, I wish I would have had enough sense because we had a talk. Like, we literally had like a pow wow. Like, a real sit down like, hey, bro, what we gonna do, y'all? We gonna make it work or we not? And we was like, all right, big boom. We gonna make it work but we already fell out before. And then after we fell out again, you know what I'm saying? Somebody got in their feelings again. And I was like, man, I can't keep playing with y'all like this. I go, I can go do my own thing or I can go get a job because I was still in college and I was just used to making money. I was, my whole life was, I was a worker. Like, my parents didn't teach me how to be a boss. They taught me how to be a worker and that sucks. So, now I learned from that word. I teach my kids, hey, man, y'all gotta learn how to be our own entity. Think about it. It makes so much sense. That's why they stood here. When you was coming here, when you were little, my kids were small. They grew up in this store. They were 15 and 16 and 14. This store been here 15 years, going on 16. Well, going on 15. All they know is bosses. That's all they know. And that was the reason I did it was so they could grow up here. They grew up here. That's their little oars over there or something but they know the hustle. They ain't playing no game with that. And they know the other way as well because we do everything. But the thing is, man, you said a mouthful when you said that, you know, to show them how to be entrepreneurs and how to move in this society is important, right? Like I said, can we... Go ahead. Okay. I want to go up to the fact of the Mode 3 thing because I know Mode 3 was your guy. No, for sure. I know Trap was your guy. I know Two Yellow, your guy. All of them. For sure. Y'all around the same age, too, to be honest with you. No doubt. Just give me the spiel on just Mode 3, how you and him met, how you and him, because y'all had to grow up around the same era, some of the same things were going on. Let me know how it was when you first heard some of his music. Man, I still remember it like it's yesterday because it's crazy. It always play back in my mind on just like random, like if you just hear a song, I'd be like, dang. It's just like you can hear a song be rapping and I'd be like, dang, broke on. And it's like you can't come back. It's crazy, but I remember Ryan blowing my phone up like, hey, bro, like, hey, bro, I got an artist. I got an artist. And I was like, well, at that time, you know, me and Ryan is like, we close. You and Ryan? Me and Ryan, that's my guy. Are you serious? So how long you've known Ryan before you knew Mode 3? I've been knowing Ryan since like, Ryan is funny as hell, dude. Has he always been like that? I'm finna tell you this. Bro, y'all wild. Is that your homeboy? I'm talking about, I'm a little wreck. I'm finna tell y'all, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm Ryan. I'm Ryan. I've been knowing Ryan since he was a rapper. Damn. Ryan was a rapper. That's a long time. We know. Ryan was a rapper. He told us his story. You know what I'm saying? And he was decent, but he just didn't like his voice. And he thought he was like PMC. Like, Ryan, Ryan. No, listen, man, Ryan is something else. He give me some crazy calls. But I'm finna tell y'all the craziest thing with Ryan. And Ryan had at least 30% to probably even more. I'm just, I'm just being modest, super modest to with the growth of the whole Dallas boogie era. I don't think it would have been a big as big of a boogie era without Ryan Water. Why? Ryan Water was the only individual that would get on the road and go to all the colleges and get us booked. You can't, you cannot go and ask any local artist that had a boogie song on top. And I can name them. The paper chasers. What was the name? T-Wheels and his brother. B-Hamp. The party boys. Even the, it was anybody. The GS boys. Anybody that was local. On the reason I wouldn't put the GS boys in there because that was already there. They already had a deal. You know what I'm saying? B-Hamp, those two already had a deal. Yeah. But anybody else? You wasn't getting booked unless Ryan was calling you because Ryan was the one out there hustling trying to make his 10% or 5%. But back then, we didn't know that book, like people that book shows get that type of money. We thought we were supposed to get all the money. That's the only reason the world started calling Ryan Janky. Really? Because Ryan was putting a booking fee on it because Ryan went to Houston and learned that that's what... That's how you're supposed to do it. That's business. Right. But in Dallas... But artists didn't know that. We didn't know that. So now when they finding out, they ain't rain charged them $2,000 but they only gave us $800. Because hey, how much you want for a show? She wouldn't just give me $1,000. I got $800 for you. All right, let's do it. And then Ryan go get $2,000. You want to make $2,000 without Ryan. That's right. Driving this little raggedy hunter, go to Greenhunter around the world, man. I used to ride in that car. One more here about this rain water, something else. You know what's so crazy? I sit back and laugh because I really was a witness of it. I seen it firsthand. He a born hustler. He was the only one that literally got on the road to go to the colleges and get the DJs to play the music. The first club, like city and college that we took over was Navarro. And it was a DJ, DJ Lil X. And at that time it was definition DJs. DJ Lil X was the only one that was like doing the high school parties and he started doing college parties because we got older. That's crazy. So when Lil started doing the clubs, we had Young Black that was like making all the noise. Just before paper chasers and Young Black even made Franky. Young Black had the buzz and he had the Richmond records behind him. But Lil X was the DJ. Rain or go for service. All the new music, get it hot. Because all you had to do was just go to Cirque. Whatever song was be, get that song. Go take it to the DJs. Get the song hot. And then at that time there was no social media. It was just picking on the phone and calling someone. No. No going. You had to go. Mm-hmm. Like delivering the CDs. Everything was mobile. You had to be there. Yeah. So at that time, all the people from the country towns, Tyler Waco, Mount Pleasant, Mount Vernon, Oklahoma, Louisiana, you had to drive all the way to Dallas, Texas to come to Cirque. 2,500 people. Or Sunday at level five, or Saturday at club shake. You had to come and see it and you would go take it back because it wasn't no social media platforms for you to hear it. You only had to be the word of mouth. Hey, this is the biggest song out of Dallas. This is the biggest song out of Dallas and then you got to do that's literally coming down her service. I'm saying I can get these artists. I can do this. That nigga there doing this, did his thing and that's what make Ryan different. You know, I always, ever since I met him he's a hilarious guy. Man, he hell. He make me laugh. And the nigga that got good at interviewing this nigga hero, this nigga is talented. Hey, I'm going to fuck you up. Ryan couldn't talk for shit. The first big, and this is no cap, the first big show, one of Ryan's biggest shows ever, the first big show, some people in Hawaii called me and they was like, hey, we want to bring all the Dallas people. So I didn't want to do all the conversation because I had a job. I didn't have time to be all on phone. I know Ryan, I'll do it. And I'm like, Ryan, you can't talk to them folks like that, man. This how y'all talk to you. So I literally had to coach Ryan how to talk to these folks. And then we booked, we booked the party boys. We booked the GS boys. We booked Behem. We booked Young Black. Me, DJ, Mr. Rogers to do the whole thing. And we took over the whole Hawaii trip. Damn. And I had Ryan Water set it all up. That's dope, man. Like I said, you telling me things that I didn't even know. That's crazy. The one thing I can say, man, it's just, it's crazy the fact that the way, you know, things come full circle, you know, and that's the one thing about work ethic, you know, the dude, he consistently in, he in something at all times, man. I don't agree with some of the shit he's doing though. I know you don't, but you can't agree with everything. But, but, but, that's, the nigga is a marketing genius. Now he, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, I sit back and I talk to bro all the time. I'll be like, bro, you is tripping, bro. Like you tripping. Like, I don't need some, some shitty dude. I'll be like, bro, what the fuck? I won't even say it on the mic. That's crazy, man. I'll be like, bro, but at the end of the day, I, I don't, I just don't agree with some of the stuff he do because like, like rain is like a real partner to me. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I want to get on the mode three thing though, cause rain, I didn't know that he was, had that much influence cause all you've seen was mode three in the kitchen. I didn't even get to answer the question. I was on my bed. So, rain called me and say, hey man, I got an artist. And I'm like, all right, whatever, this nigga called me back again. I got an art, bro, I got an artist. I'm going to get that food. I'm going to pay you to come to the studio. And that's when I learned, damn, like food, like niggas are literally paying for my ear just to see what it is. So I'll get in there. I'm going to send this little short, little stumpy little, matter of fact, he skinny. He ain't even fat. He skinny. I'm talking about nigga, muscle, started loosing them motherfuckers. I was like, size two X gym shorts on some fucking slides. So I'm like, I'm like, rain, you got me here looking for this nigga. Because at this time, rappers, you had a trail boy, designer, a little cubing lane. Yeah. Watch. So I'm like, I'm so I'm like, I'm like, bro, you don't look like no fucking rapper, bro. Bro, bro, like, ain't nothing he can say on this mic to make me just go, I bro, he hard. So boom, it's probably about eight o'clock. It's just now it's probably like seven o'clock. It's just getting dark. We didn't leave that motherfucking studio about like, probably about five, six in the morning. That little guy started fucking rapping, bro. And I was like, yup, he the next one. And we did shots. Reloaded. Damn. We did shots. Reloaded. I hosted the mixtape. That was the first. And I was in there with him like, all right, three, I know you can wrap about guns and shit, but switch it up. And then he was like, man, that shit hold on. Man, that shit ain't holding up, bro. And that shit was making him so mad. He was like, like, oh, I know how to do it now. I just, just piss him off. Just keep making him mad. Just make him mad. And he just, man, so, since man three was, man, he was a legend, bro. I like it because, you know, like I said, three, I didn't really, I was a, I'm going to be honest with you, before they even was having any issues and all that, I was with yelling them because of the designer. Young nigga, I'm a nigga that sell clothes. It makes sense when you think about it. Then I'm a hustler. So I'm like, this nigga here marketable. The first time I hear about mode three, the nigga, he, he jumping on a mixtape guy or something, something crazy. I'm telling you. Yeah. Yeah. And then he over here. The CG, but she was done. D-real. D-real. And then the next time I hear, he beating up somebody on Facebook. I told Rain, what I'm like, no, nigga, that nigga is not the one I need to be dealing with. I'm trying to get this. I'm looking at the city going. This nigga yellow though, this nigga here, he marketable. You know, he ain't all that, but he gonna be, you know, he marketable. That's what I was looking at. Yeah. From a financial standpoint and a hustler, I'm looking at this can go. My brother called me about this dude, man. He kept calling me by mode three. I'm like, man, why you keep calling about this nigga? He like, man, you heard that church song? Yeah. I'm like, I don't know nobody. That nigga kept calling. Then I started listening. I said, this thing, I'm a nigga right here. That nigga got something. You know what's so crazy? And this is what I tell people all the time, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like three was he, he was just, he is just in a whole class of his own. But I didn't heard, like all the trackboy in the music. You know what I'm saying? I didn't heard all the music. They got the same capabilities to be as powerful. It's just, I don't know if they, they scared to put that type of music out. Or, but they got the same, they got it in them too. I don't know what it's going to take to get it out to them, because to me, trackboy, when you rapping about trap shit, ball for ball, ain't nobody fucking with that man. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people say, they don't like the way trap rap. I be like, bro, when he talking about trap, when he talking about, when he talking about their lifestyle, hey man, you can't fuck with that boy. Let me tell you something. I go on the record to say this, the hardest nigga on that, that's on me remix with trap boy, Freddie. Say man, he had a cold. That's what I just said. I think it's the right song, the right beat, and you in trouble. It's just, only thing is, I feel like trap don't have the complete team around him to bring it out, because all right, when they did the- You don't trust nobody. I don't think you give a damn to even trust you. That's the thing. I think you got a curve, because you know for a fact that this shit make millions. So I know he curve. I know he curve. Just to find the right team that he trust. That's the problem. It's just man, it's about the system now, and the city is lacking the system to keep, to elevate our city in a bigger light. Like I write for instance, Erica Banks goes to a Houston program, and turns into one of the biggest TikTok songs. And boy for boy, female rapping lyrically, she's one of the best. Bro, I picked her. I texted her. I got to text her. Before she- I'm talking before all of the- because I seen it. I'm finna tell you, what's so crazy. And I tripped out all for it. I'm gonna call, call my phone, amen. I'm thinking about signing her, bro. But if you say, I shouldn't, I won't. I said man, she's the best female artist out of Dallas. Signed her. She gone. Before that, even before she went to, to, to, to a half-point, my son showed her to me, and I was like, man, that girl can rap nigga. I knew it, bro. When she was stripping and rapping, I was like, bro, you cold. Because you gotta think about it. It was like, it's like three or four, like strippers that turned rappers that got Sensei Mali. Yeah. When she was dancing, she was like, I'm gonna rap. Like, I was literally like, we went out of town. We went out of town to go make some money. And I, and I'm listening to the music in the car. I'm like, man, you tripping, you need to focus on this. Yeah. Like, you got it. You got it. Shout out to Sensei Mali, man. What did somebody say? The group was here last night. What did somebody say about rapping and stripping, that it's just not a good look? It's not a good look. No, that was, I can't say who said that. That's why I said somebody said that. Yeah. But at the end of the day, the hustle is real. I respect the hustle. I don't give a damn what you gotta do. You better make it. So you agree that it's not a good look? I ain't saying it's not a good look. I don't, ain't nothing not a good look. Cause if it work, it work. I can't, I can't dictate what works for you. You know what I'm saying? I think the hustle is real. Yeah. For sure. I tell my, I tell my kids all the time, I'll be like, man, you can't go look at your partner and what your partner got going on and expect it to work for you. Cause she, his parents might not fuss at him for, for acting up or doing something. So he ain't got to deal with these consequences. But you do. Yeah. So you gotta always, you gotta put that in everyday lifestyle. Like, hey, I don't know what might work for you because I don't know your financials. You might gotta strip your life. That's what I was talking about. That's exactly what I said. I said that the fact that you gotta, cause rapping takes money. Man. You gotta finance it somewhere or the other. Rap take real, I just told you to, I told you to keep up that, that whole hit that image. I was literally bawling broke all the time. Oh, you was coming here and spending that money. Man. Come on. I was bawling broke. Cause I used to hear it from her. She say, he came up that day. He got a shirt. Man, it cooled you, man. It cooled you. That was the business. It was Cool Jit, Crown Holder, Mazzana. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I see the picture and my mama used to, my mama used to, a mud hole through me like, boy, you just keep buying clothes and you gotta buy shoes. And I was going over to the DK with Miss Lisa. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, back then, I was under the old law. You know, you couldn't get the new Jays unless you bought the outfit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You, you weren't no Raffles. It was like, if you ain't buying the whole unit, because we sit in the clothes too now. Yeah. You can't just get these shoes. So you gotta go get the shorts, the shirt, the jacket, and we're going to get your shoes right now. Yeah. Yeah. So Pearl Jordan's 150, the jacket was like 80. The shorts was like 50. The crown holder was hidden, wasn't it? I'm in a crown holder. That was 350. That crown holder was, I know those niggas who were doing that. Man, we were crown holding concerts. GZ coming, a crown holder. Yeah. Black label. 8732. Come on, man. You know what I'm saying? Come on. It was, I was going broke. I had all of them accounts here. This store, that's crazy. I was going broke. And people don't be understanding like, you know what I'm saying, but you gotta, you gotta like, you gotta have an image. Gotta have your image up here. So I can not work. I don't even gotta get fly. If I don't want to get flying, people going to be like, man, they will fly for 12 years strong. He can always be fly. Yeah. That's the way it is. So to be successful in the music industry, it can't just be all time. Image has to go with it. Yeah. To, depending on the crowd that you're shooting for. Like, I'm like, I used to hate when Mo3 used to work. It used to kill my guts. It used to grind my girls all like, bro, come on bro, we gotta go to my real quick. I'm like, I don't care about that fool. They can hurt his flow. I'm like, what? What? I just couldn't, I didn't understand it, but the catch is, it's all about the confidence in the individual. Some people need clothes. I'm like, for a long time, I needed clothes to make me feel like walking in a room. Now, it's to the point where I can, I can be chilling. I can wear a white tee, because I didn't know how to upgrade it. I'm into jewelry. I'm into all these other little things that come for safe clothes. But in the meantime, I store them all in clothes. I'm going to be honest with you. And I know that we're going to get into that, but you know, I can relate because that's how this store got here. Because it was a time when I was hustling, I wouldn't wear the same thing twice. Come on, man. We came under that damn dash law. I'm a different type dude. You don't even wear your white tee. I ain't wearing nothing. I give it to my brother. I give it to my cousin. Man, I hate that. You don't have much white tees as me. I love the world. You can go out and buy a new white tee every single time. You know, it was so crazy. My mom used to be like, because at this time I had my own apartment, but at that, I had my own apartment, but it was with no washing machine in there. And so I was like, man, I used to drive all the way back home to wash machine free, but my mama has. So my mama would be like, I don't know why you're washing these clothes because you ain't going to wear them again. I said, that's something we do. I was like, but I might, you're not. And I'm not. And she was like, cause you keep coming here with bad news. She was like, like, this is ridiculous. I'm talking about we really, I literally, this, this how bad clothes was for me in high school. I didn't talk to my mom from September of my senior to like two months in when I was in college because I wound up getting a job. My mom, my only thing my mama did not want me to do growing up was get a job. She wanted me to focus on school. That's it. Nothing else. School. But shit, I made straight A's. So I was like, this shit is school easy. I don't, I made straight A's where I ate in my class. So I was like, I don't, I need a job. And I went, since I was in radio, television and Lincoln, I wanted to work it for ESPN. So I'm making $150 an hour. Cause I took the baseball job and I played baseball. Nobody liked baseball. And that was like, well, it's an intern. I don't know if it's paid. Why did that job stop? Because it was just, it was just, it was like a freelance. It was just like you, you hold a little microphone. That's a good job. Like back in the day, you know, the cameras wasn't so good. The mics wasn't so good. They had them big clear shields. That's the only way they picked up sound from the game. So when you heard the clack of the bat or hitting the grass, it was people actually in there really doing work. The camera wasn't doing all the work. So they'll pay us $150 an hour baseball game, 34 hours. It's 82 baseball games in a year. Man, we're making a killer. Making a killer. Making a real killer. That's for three hours. Yeah. I'ma thought I saw a doe. Yeah. She was like, how did you buy an olive? And the catch was I was literally spending my whole paycheck. I was giving the tip. Yeah. I ain't need me no more. I need no money to go out. I got to ask you about, I got to ask you about, I remember I said I was going to ask you about Carl Crawford and uh, uh, making the style, you man. It's all over there. I wanted, I wanted to, I wanted to talk about it because, uh, the fact, of course we both know Carl. Um, when you first heard of Megan, the stallion, um, you, you was in the radio then, right? Yeah. Yeah. So matter of fact, we the first people to interview Megan, the stallion in my podcast, me, R.P., my man, Dippa Ratchey, uh, and uh, Glam. It was me, Glam, and Dipp, and I said with you about that, you, he had princes on there and the nigga going to say this, you the oldest, you, you'll still the one that's the oldest been rockin' the time. I'm like, nigga, are that nigga forgot about us? Hey, but you know, you know you said it. Hey, I definitely, but you know what I did? Yeah. I said that nigga, he camp over there, that nigga camp, nigga. And you know what, she know me well. She like, she, they know the old G is here or the old even trip. Like, they all see us. Yeah. We see princess every single six months. They, they rock with us, bro, because they, I've been around for all of this, man. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I like, and I don't, I think it was because we humble and we stay out the way. We stay out the way. We ducked off. And a lot of people, and I'm going to say this, I got to say this, a lot of people like, man, why are you in Moodle Stove here? Why are you in Moodle Stove here? I come from the streets. So I really don't want everybody coming to me. You don't hear me, man. Sometimes it better be out the way than in the way. In the way. So we always move like that. People always said, why are you not in the mall? Why you don't do this? And we had the finances. I just, I'm a hustler. So first of all, you can't get to your store at night in no damn mall. So I can't do that, bro. We had customers calling us at 10, 11, 12. I need to open the store. I need the drip. And I give it to them every time. I need the drip. Every time. And if it, it puts go to serve, I know, man, because you can't get a big tea and you can't wait me up out of bed. You know what? Hey, man, you know, hey, man, if I get up now, I'm gonna get up. You can put your price on it. Hey, hey, hey. So you get it. Come on, man. It's a sleeping nigga fee. Come on, man. I used to all I said, she's like, I'm an old man. That's me, that's me. You know what I'm saying? I'm an old man. That's me, that's me. You know what I'm saying? I'm an old man. I got a family. I got a family. You know what I'm saying? You got to come, man. Nothing open. I got to go to the club tonight. I got to come. And there's certain niggas that would call me, so I could never do that hustle like everybody else. My mind said, I'm like, I can't read that. You know what I'm saying? No doubt. But I just want to go back to the Carl Crawford making the style. You say y'all interviewed her first and when y'all interviewed her, what she would call then? You know what I'm saying? R.P. to her mom. You know what I'm saying? Her mom was there. Carl Crawford was there. Okay. And they was just now like starting a partnership. So, you know what I'm saying? Like when we interviewed her, we actually booked her at our club. You know what I'm saying? We had rumors at the time. And I got the footage and it was crazy. It was like it was super packed. Like the girls went crazy over her. But it sucks because it was her power as an artist and her network and her growth that made her big. But it was cause finances that helped contribute to it. So it sucks because they needed each other. It's collective. But like now it's to the point where it's like this side is saying well we need you and this side like then like but it's like god damn it both of y'all y'all wouldn't have been y'all wouldn't have worked without each other. Well in the music Carl Crawford was already you know he was financially well off. He still is. So it's like but you know I got a great relationship with Megan and I got a great relationship with Carl. So from my understanding from me actually she was the first artist to come to Dallas and tap in with us it's like man y'all need each other and it sucks y'all don't got each other because y'all could have did so much more than what's getting put out there but at the same time it's still a business. But it goes back to like what you said even about a group is pride and ego that breaks anything up. Hey man it's business though the catch is hey man Carl had her riding around and Ben Ben Sperna's two of them had her riding with 30 girls everywhere she go you couldn't do that on your own finances like you was doing this everywhere new outfits you know Megan went from slick her ponytail to bundles you know what I'm saying you gotta think about it like it's just it's not cheap that shit not cheap now but what I can't understand is I know with going back and forward all the court cases and all of that why she don't just go ahead and give him what he wants so she can move on with her life because when you are talented artist you can create so much more and it's be great but it's like she she got the right to feel like she she feel like she worked for there it's like if you work for your name and then somebody said they want it because they had it first you're gonna fight for it yeah and you can't blame her for fighting for it you can't blame him for fighting for it and in the game it's just now you gotta you gotta treat this shit like business take it to the courts what the judge gonna say yeah and at the end of the day those are unrepairable relationships hopefully they get past they can go either way you don't ever know which way is gonna go and it sucks for the culture because that's Texas you know what I'm saying and they didn't deal so much like look at what she's doing in those years because we brought and look at what she done did in the last five years. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, it sucks because man, I'm for anything dealing with Texas. Call from Texas, make it from Texas. I'm for everything that's Texas. That's how we are. You know what I'm saying? You in the midst of it right now. So I want everybody to win and it sucks they gotta deal with all that shit. I mean Texas great again. You know what I'm saying? You know it sucks they gotta deal with that shit but at the meantime you know it's still business now. It's business. Okay. You know like you just one of those guys man that you've been able to keep yourself in the midst of everything. Now you know when my niggas come to town, shout out to Money Man and all these different people that I'm missing man. That's my guy man. When these guys come to town they tapping in at V Live. How did you end up doing that? Man it was just, it was just luckily enough like I said when I jumped back in the game when I took that little hiatus, when I jumped back in the game I started working at a DG's at the time. Yeah. And you know what I'm saying? I was chilling there. D.C. came down to the city. As a matter of fact it wasn't even D.C. It was a, it was DJ Eric them that was doing like the Houston takeover. So it was battling like Dallas girls versus Houston girls, Houston DJ versus Dallas DJ. And then the only car wind up it like damn they got a nigga that sound just as good as what we got going on in Houston. We might need to open up a club in Dallas. Yeah. That's what happened. I'm really my co-host in here tonight, Money Moses. He used to be here. He worked with you down there. He, I used to be on that nigga. I said, did you tell that nigga? I said, come on boss, start going to one. When we first started I was like, what's up, what's up with this nigga? He won't come to Boston. Man nobody told him bro. Bro this nigga, he said he told you multiple times. I said man, bro I tripped out over you at first. I promise you I used to tell people I say, you know what that nigga tripping? It's about five niggas. I feel the fuck you up. We at the magic show in Vegas. I run into your wife. First thing, she was like, come on boss talk. I was like, get my number, let's do it. It was nothing and I'm hurt. Yeah, but it was a time when I was trying to figure it out with Money Moses. He said, no, I told him. Yeah, I'm like, how the hell did he do it? Hell no. Bro, I say this nigga must don't know who I am. Man, you done forgot. I said, I know the nigga know me. How fast we get this done? You got it done pretty fast. I'm just telling you, I asked, I'm gonna be on him because then I say, you need to be on the mark because I want a girl who lying, somebody lying. You know what, I only missed yesterday because I supposed to came yesterday because we had a bunch of me's. I'm glad you didn't come here. It was about five. Mario, Mario was trying to see. Yeah, he wanted to see you on your gear. Yeah, your gear on yesterday. So he wanted to rock with you. God damn me, I got the times mixed up and I was at the main cages, man, just out there with them kiddos. Like I said, this is a different world for some. I mean, I've been dealing with everybody for a long time. No doubt, no doubt. I just wasn't doing this, but when I started doing it, I was like, you know, man, we did this to keep relevancy in the middle of a pandemic, bro. No doubt, no doubt. But it turned into something totally different and way bigger, bro. I'm telling you. It's like, what the hell? Like, okay, these niggas want this. And what it did, it opened up doors to talk to the young people, like I was telling you earlier. No, for some. Young people need somebody to talk to, bro. It's like they don't have nobody, like the niggas in the streets using them just to get clout. You know what I'm saying? Hey man, that's the illest thing that I want the youth to understand, man. Just because they're old and you don't make them a big homie. Because, you know what I'm saying? I grew up personally under the law where it was like, hey man, you can't do this. You can't do that. You can't do this, you can't do that. You're gonna have to go to school. You're gonna have to go to, like that's the law I personally come on. So I really wasn't in the streets. I was a sidewalk guy. Because I wasn't allowed to. Cause the big people out there, I was hanging around like, bro, you know what I mean? This ain't even you. This ain't for you. Chill, like you, man, go out there and go hoop. And, hey man, you don't need to do all that. So I'm glad that I came under that atmosphere because you got some people that, hey man, you got ducks running around here, man. Hey look, you wanna go do this? Yeah. And then if something happened to you, it's like, all right. I gotta ask you this before you get off of here, man. What does Bay Bay mean to you? Man, Bay Bay is, he the goat. He's the goat. It's like, there's no impotence on it. Only reason I say that because Bay Bay put us, he helped us get in position for me to understand a lot of different motions and movements and how to God dang network with different individuals. And then as a guy that was just only dancing, the first time Bay Bay sent us to Shreveport and me watching him like tout and control the crowd, I was like, all right, that's what I wanna do. I don't wanna rap because everybody wanted me to rap. He thought, man, you might as well be a rapper. You got the swag, they didn't wanna know how to talk. You know what I'm saying? You might as well be gonna make you a song. But I seen Bay Bay, I was like, nah, I wanna, I wanna MC. I wanna control the crowd. I wanna make everybody touch their toes. I wanna make everybody spin around and do the hokey pokey. Like, look at this man doing, look at the influence he have on the culture I heard. So I was like, man, I want that for Dallas. And we didn't have nobody like that. We had DJs, we had rappers. We didn't have nobody that had a voice of the city that was actually from the city. So like, Bay Bay, we always have power outs and watching his motions, even if he don't talk to me or whatever, what he always do, he's like a mentor. You can watch him and be like, I'll write this how you need to move. Or this how you need to move. Because everybody need a person that they look up to as far as like, hey, that's the big homie. All right, look how he move. He don't do this, he don't do that. But he do do this. All right, he might do that wrong. So let me fix that. So I don't have to go through that. So that's how I look at Bay Bay. Like he a big dog, like he. What's he wanted the reason that you ended up on K-104? I don't, I probably show because one thing I've always, I've grown to learn the things that people say behind closed doors and behind my back puts me in a win-win situation or a lose-lose situation. I could bet my probably my last dollar in my pocket did. He was probably in my favor. He could have been in one of those rooms. He could have, I will bet it. I don't know, but I could bet that. That's just because he's always been genuine to me. You know how people be like, hey man, I don't fuck with him because, so I can't say that. You won't, I can't have no will, will, intent, you know what I'm saying? On this man, you know what I'm saying? Because he did too much to put me in position to be who I am. I get it, man. Like I said, I asked you that because it seemed like, you know, the relationship would have to be there as long as you've been at that radio station. So I was just trying to, you know what's so crazy? Brothers working at a radio station, they should be, you know, in both of y'all door-skinned niggas. So yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I always say, man, door-skinned niggas is players. I don't care, I don't wanna know. I mean, even if they not play, they just play. So, you know, y'all gotta do this, hey, they don't wanna get them right, but hey, man. Man, I mean, so, I mean, who do you think is the most underrated in the city when it comes down to the music? Underrated, I have the hands down say, T-Y-E, Ty Harris. Man, that boy, he was just on there a while back. I loved it. Lyrically, can't nobody fuck with Ty Harris. Putting, or composing music, can't nobody touch him. It's just, I don't know why people are not being receptive to him, and it sucks because he give me that same lane how it was Lil' Runny. Like, even though everybody know Lil' Runny, Mother Earth, he still is underrated because people don't respect and value. He's the Dallas Ludacris. Yeah, most definitely. Like, he is one of those, he's one of those warrants. He's one of those warrants for real. He's a special kind of guy. Man, lyrically, content, putting together a song. He got the hit records. Like, what more do y'all ask for him and y'all still don't get that man to create it? And I love the personality, I love the fact that he's not into all that beef and anything like that. Man, let me tell you. It's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot of underrated cats, man. If I sit back and just think. But you said Ty Harris would be your number one underrated. I think Ty, I think Ty because I just, I love his, him musically. Like, he is, his content, his videos, his subject matter. He dope. Man, let me tell you something, man. And shout out Lil' Runny, like I said, when I opened this platform up from day one, he wanted those guys that I didn't have to say nothing twice. He came and not only did he came, he dropped jewels. He dropped, just pretty much gang like, hey, just be very careful about who you bring on the show. All these different things. Cause he knew, he said, he wanted them dudes to say, especially bro, what you doing is going to be great. They could see it. Like it's niggas that come in here and be like, when you have people flying in from North Carolina, and you just opened this thing up or, or say a call to somebody that's flying in, like I want to be on boss talk, just call you. We all the same day. Yeah, it's like, you not expecting this, but then when guys start blessing you, you like, dang man, this here is dope. Like it's, you get to deal with certain people. No doubt. But, but he was one of those guys that I could, I could listen to, or if I called him and I needed somebody and I couldn't get to him, he was gonna call, you know. So I'll get you favor with certain people, man. And it's just a dope thing. So when you mentioned him that I thought about that, but Ty, when he came on this show, we know he talented. I love the way that, okay. Got another one for you, what's the, what, and you gotta give me an answer too, nigga. Don't try to get out of it. I mean, you know, I'm stiff and bootleg, man. I'm gonna give you some. Who, who, what's the, what's the Dallas anthem? The Dallas anthem. My, my, my Dallas anthem or the world's Dallas anthem? I want you, I don't, how have you put it? You, it's you. I got five ways to answer this question. Globally, the Dallas anthem is, you better call Tyrone here, here go by dude. Okay. You know what I'm saying? And we're on some urban nigga shit. Globally. South South. Hey, there it is again. South side of the damn realest. That damn song be coming through, boy. You know what I'm saying? So we're gonna go call Tyrone, South South of the realest. And then, you know, you know what I'm saying? Mr. Hittahole nice man. Nah! Mr. Hittahole nice man. I don't sound like Mr. Hittahole nice man. The only reason I say that, I was at a Cowboys game about two, about, I think before Corona. So that was like 2019. That's when Beyonce, Jay-Z, like George Bush, everybody was there at this game. I don't know which game it was. Ray Schrummer was there. You know what I'm saying? Shout out Ray Schrummer. And they had the, one of the biggest songs at the time, they, that girl is in there. Yeah, proud of you. That was the, that was the one. Man, we watching the game and I got my boy J-Rail with me. And J-Rail like, hey bro, Ray Schrummer don't hear a fool. I don't like what the Cowboys on for. I'm a real boy span. So I'm zoned in. I don't want to talk nobody. And we losing. Yeah, I'm not, nobody. So yeah, I'm really hurt. Like this shit really cut me deep. Like they pay me to play or some shit. DeRose was in there the other day when they lost. That nigga couldn't even do the interview. Man, I'm just, I'm like nigga, you guys, now by the way, we ain't even gone, man. That nigga, Ray Schrummer came up there and they was like, hey bro, this hit that whole fool. And I was like, what's up fool? That was like, like the dude that was dancing, bro. Like, bro, we grew up, like bro, we fuck with that shit. Like, I was like. Now you see what I mean? Like you can't be playing with this, man. Took my mother fucking mind off the Cowboys. I said, man, y'all boys shit. Man, y'all motherfuckers don't know about this shit. Man, those niggas pull the motherfucking video up. Why are we kicking it back, you know what I'm saying? Side line. And we're like, bro, this you, bro. I'm like, damn, that's crazy. So that type of impact. It was like, bro, that's a big record. But that's for me though. I'm biased. Yeah, but at the end of the day, that's why I'm hard on you too about the fact of what we was talking about earlier. Like you can't, you are OG in your own way and you gotta be that bridge that we keep talking about. Now, the same thing I told Renetta wasn't it? It's certain things certain niggas can't do. And you're one of them niggas that you can speak to the whole thing. You know what's so crazy though? You know what's so crazy though? I'm fucked up how that big chief, I rubbed a triple D. Oh, you know what? Yeah, yeah, boy, that's all. People don't really give that song the deserve and credit it needs, man. Because we dance, we body, we, man. But you can't say that, but you can't say that because I'm gonna go there with you and be like that bit ton ton nigga. I'm from Dallas nigga. You know what I'm saying? I'm a- Hey, the only reason, hey, look, you know what's so crazy. I'm just saying. I'm gonna tell you about that. You know, I'm from the Grove. So, you know, I'm heavy Diaz song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I went to school in Oak Cliff. I went to Sarazone Walker. I went to Lisbon, you know what I'm saying? So I got to touch all the different blocks growing up. You know what I'm saying? I always was being from the Grove. I went to school in Oak Cliff and then I went to high school in the South Dallas. So I kind of like touched everything. The reason why I did not know that those were all beef songs between Nino and Diaz song. I didn't know that either. Oh man. So now looking back at it. That song? Bro, yeah, I'm from, you know what he said? Yeah, I'm from Dallas. But nah, we don't say that. Yeah, yeah, that boy, yeah. He come eight K then. Yeah. I did not know that they was beef. Beef. Those were beef songs. You had to learn, how did you learn that though? Because. You played it. No, me and Rain was having an argument like, like, hey bro, he was like, bro, all these songs, without the beef, Dallas don't have no anthem. South South of Realist was a respond song. Like it was like every song because they was at that time, they were saying, I don't know how true this is. But they was like, hey man, South Dallas didn't have an anthem. And you know, South Dallas was monumental. You know, Martin Luther King on Sunday, but they never had an anthem. Oh, Cliff had anthems. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like people wasn't speaking on South Dallas like that until they made these anthems. So without beefing, because you know, all the fights and stuff was going on between different hoods, different blocks. Without the beef, Dallas, if you take the beef away, we don't have a hit, we don't have a hit single. Outside, all this, like even, even yellow, yellow songs, people was claiming that was a beef song to a certain extent. But without that controversy behind this music, the music don't get as big as it should. I agree. I told Gator Man the other day without, without his song, without that, without that, I don't walk through, you know that. Come on, man. That song right there. Come on, man. That moves the needle for me in Dallas. You know what I'm saying? Come on, man. I don't walk the block until my feet hurt the slab. But all the boys, I took the good with the bad. Without this, I woulda took a vow to never ever come in land. And I woulda told a whole damn word to kiss my ass. You can't be in Dallas, you can't wrap that in. Bro, listen, I told him, then I hit her, I don't even like this song. I'm like, hey, I'm gonna give you, I'm for the, I'm for the fuck that I love. I said whatever. The Mr. Hit That Hell song, I hate it. Same thing. Same thing. Same thing. Bro, I'm so crazy because I don't know if you guys know an artist named Noshane. Yeah, he was on here. You know what I'm saying? Noshane was supposed to have been the original voice on Mr. Hit That. But it didn't recollect. Like, you know what I'm saying? And we wound up, me and Tria, we went to the elephant, like a little artist showcase. We wound up seeing Wide Frame and I was like, hey, bro, that's the voice. That nigga, that's the voice. He came in and did the song. But I didn't like it because it was so slow. Yeah. And I wanted like upbeat, like, I wanted, at that time, it was that young girl, ain't no, ain't no, I wanted some bounce. And I was like, man, this slow ass song and I was like, man, I don't like this shit. But we played that shit in the fucking world just when shit got in. No, it was just, it was mint. It hit. And whether you like it or not, nigga. That's you, nigga. That's our song. You can't get out of that. Off of the fuck you up. You can't get around it. It's a crazy story. Who came up with the name of the song? My name was already Mr. Hit the Hole. I know. And he was hitting that hole. It was like, it was already. Who wrote it? Tria, Trell and Rhee. Yeah. Trell and Rhee. So before we performed that song, we heard that T-Wheels and God, I can't think of my boy. He gonna be so mad at me, bruh. I can't think of the other dude that was with T-Wheels. Juicy Nine. T-Wheels and Juicy Nine. T-Wheels posted got a deal off of the Nature Walks song. So everybody posted be open up for boosting webbing. See the whole concert. And they let all the local artists, but all the dancers on perform. And at that time, Trell and Rhee had the biggest song which was, See a Bad Little Bro. We opened up with the Mr. Hit that record. I think, I downed the thing. We fucked up that man deal. I bet. That whole, that whole had that energy. It had it. But the kids, remember I told y'all, we was gunning for everybody. Cause everybody was getting deals. So it was like, all right, they could come to sign you. I don't feel no fuck this bitch up where he come sign me. But we didn't have the mind to be like, all right, boom, come get him. Boom, then come back, get him. Yeah, I know. Boom, come back and get him. And then, now Dallas got 12 big artists. Now these 12, 70 niggas might go bankrupt cause they don't know no business. But 40 niggas might be popping and they might be to the next entity. People scared, people scared that if you say you gon' get me and then come back for you. Then he might not come back. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he might not come back. Yeah, yeah. But we fucked up too though. Cause when we signed the inner scope, you know what I'm saying? Wife, friend wanted his money. We should have just paid that man and got him out the way. But we Dallas, we some cheap niggas. We some cheap ass niggas, man. All right, man. He said we cheap. Man, I'm telling you, the only reason why we didn't blow up and become superstars, bro, is because Trap was to pay that man $200 to sing that fucking song. He didn't. That cheap motherfucker did not pay him. Damn. He tried to pay him $200 after the song got big, the nigga won $13,000. So we wind up doing that, didn't come to find out the nigga was signed by a friend, signed by somebody. And at that time it was all the way turned up or missed the hit that whole, which button we gonna press? All these niggas ain't got their business together. All the way turned up. And we just, we just, we had the eight million in four days on World Store. That shit was unheard of. I already know, man. That song was big. The shit we had going on, but we just didn't have our business right. Yeah, yeah. We was all down for. Why you don't have an artist or nothing? I was just thinking about that. You know how this game goes. Stop playing, man. Even if you ain't just doing another mentor on him. Do you want to do it? I mentor a lot of different artists. But like Ryan and Tia, it's babysitting. I know it is. I got four kids. Oh, I forgot about this. They got to try and call a quiz. I got the other. I go at about five more. Yeah, all right. I got one more in me. I got one more in me. You got to give me my top three before we get off to the top. Hardest hard time. Dead or alive. Number one. You tell me you ain't been watching Boss Talk. I've been watching Boss Talk and that's what's so crazy because nobody asked me to come on. Oh, here we go. When was the first time you've seen Boss Talk? Probably like. Nick, we did. Let me in my music. Hold on. It was during Corona. It was during Corona. It was during Corona. And what's so crazy? He looked so different now. I didn't even know it was you. Everybody say that though, dude. Cause I grew up under the white air. Cause I had inboxed you and I sent you a link to one of our shows that we did. And I said, check this out. Tell me what you think of it. But then nobody asked me to come. I did check it out. But you never responded. Cause my next thing when you responded, I'll be like, hey, Wes. Hey, look, check this out. I want people to understand in life, look at my text messages. Oh yeah, them hoes going in. Look at my phone calls. Yeah, yeah. Them hoes going in. I put my phone on do not disturb. I had missed 22 calls since I've been heard. Yeah. No doubt. People don't be understanding the power of them phones. You call me one day. No, you didn't call me. I made, I think it was, which one of them girls was it I made call you? I think it was a, what's the little dog girl? I take the Vegas with us. You used to take with us. That's sad. She gonna kill me. You take so many people to Vegas. I always take everybody, bro. That's the one thing you get. I don't mention it. Nigga, I take everybody. This is my first year going to Vegas. Nigga, I took everybody. You don't know where you've been going since when you were coming here. You know what? It sucked because they didn't have China there. So I didn't get to get- What's that? They went sourcing, wasn't there? Sourcing was there, but- I know sourcing, but they didn't have, no, China couldn't come. Yeah, yeah. Because of Trump. Damn. So I didn't get to get the full- You didn't get to get the full- In fact, without China, it's like everybody won $5,000, $20,000 for one item. I can't believe it. There were some people that I saw there because I wanted some things made. And they were like, well, yeah, just call us. We can make the sample. So I did find some people there. Yeah, but they were not authentic China men. Even after they do the sample, you still gotta make a thousand or 500. Yeah, there was like a thousand. But let me, shoot, we was going there when you was coming here. Every six months. And what's so crazy? Y'all used to tell me. I'm pretty sure I try to help everybody. It's like- I used to tell me, because I was like, man, I want to start a clothing line. I'm going to start one. I'm going to start one. It should be goddamn 15 years to start one. Yeah, yeah. It's a COVID for me to start one. And you're good at it. Because I done had Push Man Live. All these people been on here wearing your hat. I already knew this was just enough. Man, but so many. I tried to make- What's the name of your line? Hidalgo. Okay, Hidalgo. And how long, you just put it out two years ago? Yeah, because I, you know what's so crazy? I'm a big fan of Jay-Z. And the airplane hats. You know what I'm saying? The airplane hats. You going to get that top three? I love that shit so bad. So I was like, man, I need to make a hat. Like I chanced the rapper. He got that three hat. I was like, I want to wear an H hat for hit that, but I can't call it hit that clothing. So I just went down in the dictionary and started scrolling. And I was like, man, I got to incorporate Dallas. It has to be DAL in it. So I started Googling H words. They got DAL in it motherfuckers. And I ran across the dollar. What is the meaning of Hidalgo? Hidalgo is a noble gentleman from humble beginnings. Okay, that's difficult. You know what I'm saying? In Spanish. But for my turn, it's for humble beginnings, but Hidalgo. Wow, wow, Hidalgo. I like that. Yeah, I like it too. That's dope, man. I didn't ever even know that. I just knew that was your brand. I knew that was my brand. In fact, that's the same head pusher man was wearing when he came on here. Man, for sure. I just didn't know the meaning. Did you see Pusher man wearing the hat on here? Yeah, he sent me a picture and I posted it. I posted that though. I didn't even know. Like, if anybody wore my girth, I'm posting it. Yeah, yeah. Shit, I appreciate it. Like I said, I see you still helping a lot of these artists when they put stuff out. Some of the ones that have been around a long time. You still play their music. You still show your love. Now for sure. I still like the fat pimps, the tucks. You still do it. I'm still pulling your arms. I see you doing it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I still try to show it's much love within the confines of not getting fired. Give me the top three artists of all time. Top three artists of all time. Any genre. Any genre. Dead or live. Number one. Jondre. Y'all need to get three. Number one. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. Of course, Jay-Z. I'm not even for playing. No, no, no. He tripping. He all Texas now, so let me see what he can do. No, he can do anything. No, you said any genre. That's right, that's right. I'm going to get Michael Jackson. Here we go. I'm going to Michael Jackson. I knew it. Y'all going to Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson, who number two? Nigga, man. Let me see who he going to do number two. And I ain't going to lie, man. I'm fucked up, man. That P.M.C. man. Oh, that's why you did that, man. Boy, you just did it. That nigga P.M.C. Now you good. Why you like that? Did you like that? Boy, we do this a whole P.M.C. platform. If you- Let me tell you that, man. Nigga, man. Hey, P.M.C. trying my life, man. Man. Hey, look, my junior year, going into my senior year, man, I'm talking about, it was this one girl who I was just so, I'm just head over heels with. And she broke her nigga heart so bad. I'm talking about, it was so bad that I made the remember when in my school, like, like I'm talking about, she had me thinking I'm going to the homecoming with her. She had a date. She shook you. Had me dressed like her and everything. I'm trying to take pictures with her. She broke up with, before homecoming. Now we was never together, but it was just a crazy shit. You loved her. Oh, man, I'm fucked up. I'm just thinking, was it love? I'm fucked up. What happened, man? I'm talking about, and what's so crazy? I had my partner to drive me to the homecoming. I ain't have a car. And then after the homecoming, she was like, well, I'm a ride with my homegirl to Denny's. Man, my partner called break down. So I'm stuck in a goddamn me, a garage. My other partner come like, hey bitch, I'll just take you up there then, cool. I get up there, she dressed like a whole another nigga, the nigga got her, she got the nigga jacking on. I'm like, this shit cold. I walk in that bitch, everybody looking at me crazy. Like, what the fuck? I go over there and just look at her, know what I'm saying? I speak and I don't even peep into it. And then I sit down with my other homegirl and I'm like, ooh, it's cold. I ain't got no ride to leave. So I'm just sitting there. You wallowing in it. Man, I'm just sitting in that shit, dawg. What did you do, man? Did she say nothing to you? Man, she had it so smooth. She ran me like a four dollar bill, man. It was like, two could play that game. She had me on how to be a player, nigga. She was working the room and still had a nigga feeling good, boy. What did pimp do, man? Man, I put that fucking pimp on, man. What's up, man? If you know like I know you will get down on the floor, I kill it. And he ain't looking bad. He had me screaming, fuck up, bitch. Hey, listen, man, turn it into Mr. Hit That Home, man. Man, see, that's a dope story. Number three. Oh, so that's how you got that name. I never ever thought about the meaning of that name. Hey, look, I started. I never, it never dawned on me in the meaning of that name. I started hitting anything girl and I'm active. Look, cause I was in high school, I was broke, but I was so smart. I got like a $40,000 scholarship and I went to UT Dallas and Richardson. So at that time, if you was like, if you were inner city student and you go to a predominantly white college, they can cut you a stifling at that time. They can't pay you, but it's a stifling. So at that time, my stifling, if you make a 4.0, you get 3,500. You know, summer one, summer two. So you get that per grade. So however many classes you take me, so boom, I'm taking, give me three classes, give me 12,000, something more. Summer two, give me another 12, I'm 18. I got about a 40 ball. I don't ball and I'm spending money. I'm buying clothes with my partners. Everything. What? Wow. And I'm hitting everything. Call me Mr. Hit that over, right? Shout out to J-Rock. J-Rock gave me my name. Did she ever try to, J-Rock did, no, that's a different. J-Rock. Yeah. But did she ever try to haul it back at you after all of that? Yeah, we can't, you know what I'm saying? We cool, we cool. But I had to go back and finish the mission. I did that. Already. I ain't gonna never say who it is, what I'm talking about, but she is the reason I turned into a, and then after I got out of my system, I got back soft. That's dope, that's dope. And then he said, hell nah, I shoulda, every time I broke up with somebody, I shoulda put that pimp back on. God damn, I shoulda. Number three, man, number three. Number three? Michael Jackson, PMC and number three. All the time, and I'm going on my name, Kirk Franklin, bro. Dang, that's dope. That's the first Kirk Franklin we've gotten. That's dope, bro. That's dope. That's my first current, so that I ever went to in my life, the stomp, 1998. That name was hitting the tube back then. At that time, I learned how to perform. I learned how to move the crowd. He is a performer. I used to be a gospel mom. Like, and I was real big, like, like during the summer, you know, they had them little conferences all over the world, like Florida, Miami, whatever. My parents used to take us with the church or whatever. And I was like a big deal, like, like dancing like a mom. That's why every time I dance in the club, I don't never like pop-lock or nothing, because I used to pop-lock in church. So I never did it in the regular, in the streets. Got you. But like, Kirk Franklin, I done been bad, been bad, boy. Wow. Kirk Cole, boy. I already know it. I just had a, what's her name? Jada. Jada on here. Which Jada? Jada is an Arnael. She's an R&B singer, amazing voice, man. Yeah, and she's a Kirk Franklin goddaughter. Oh, yeah, Kirk Cole, man. Yeah, and he believed in a brand, too. So it's Kirk Cole. Man, I have to let you listen to that, man. You're gonna say, damn, I'ma let him listen to that. And I wish I knew how to sing, but I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about, I will be so bad, I know how to, whoo! God knew not to give me no vocals, boy. Man, how can people get a hold to you? I gotta say that, you know, you all mist-hit that. Hey, look, Instagram page, dub, Mr. Hit that, T-H-E-M-R-H-I-T-D-A-T. I'm glad y'all spelled my name right, man. A lot of people spell my name, T-H-A-T, you know what I'm saying? So that, you know what I'm saying? That means a lot to me, you know what I'm saying? Man, my wife always was fond of you as far as you coming here as a kid. Now for sure. She always would tell me this about this boy. I see the little red in the hair off of this little boy, man. The blonde. Yeah, I said this little boy, he be at the store. She said, yeah, he always come by. I'm like, that's dope, man. And then it was unique, that Frankie song, that she was with him. Yeah, so it's like, it's certain people that I remember, it's like, dang, man, you know, these dudes are young and they grown and they moving in the city, bruh. Now for sure. You one of those guys, man. Thank you, favorite thing you do, we love you, man. Man, man, love us. You family here, man, you know. Even though he left us out when he said the ones who've been to South Carolina. Man, you redeeming tonight. I'm redeeming. I had to sit back and be like, y'all did say it. You did? I see it, I was looking like, what? Yeah, I know, I know what I'm saying. But she know, she know. Sometimes you got to know what I'm saying. You got to charge to my head and I'm a heart. What I do want to ask, we're the clothing brand. Where do you see yourself going with this? Yeah. This year. Where we gonna get our damn clothes? Man, matter of fact, I'm gonna bring y'all some gear. Only reason I didn't bring y'all some gear, cause I went and bought a sprint truck where I actually got all my gear in and I do like the mobile, like people pull up and stuff like that. But I was dope, bruh. We went to Chicago and we was gonna buy that one and I turned it down. I was gonna go buy a cash, the black one. And that hole was decked and I had to make that hole out of a whole boutique inside. It had some transmission problem or something. No, it just has a small leak. I had the pressure test put on and I was like, hell no, I'm not gonna give you for all this money and they had to just be in the house, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Cause it was used, I'm like, I'm not gonna spend this 50 or 60,000 cash on the sum and then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. And that's what's so crazy, all the profits I made off that, that's the first thing I did always, put the money back into it. So I really never even seen the shit. So, but it's dope, man. And I just really got my business stuff going. So this sure should be a good year, but I know my only flaw in my clothing brand is, I don't believe in myself. Why? You have an awesome brand. It's just, I don't know, but I'm doing better. You think it's because you just need to get more educated about it, you need to take that trip to Hong Kong. You need to stay over there. You need to go see about production crews and understand the whole just the business. Do you know what's so crazy? Me and my new old lady, you know what I'm saying? Because we started linking up in 2019 too. So that's what we was planning. Like we had to go over there, we had to hang out and then got them COVID hit. Well, I think one thing I can tell you, because of me being in this so long, you know, my friends, I mean, I can reach out and tell some serious dudes, bro. And I could put together a panel of guys who already done that and who- And they'll tell you who to reach out to and where to go and stuff like that. Definitely tap into it. I'm linking with the ones. I could promise you that. Man, I need the ones and not the two. Yeah, like they already went in state and we talk, we friends. You know, I'd be a relationship. And they ain't in Texas either, but they still, they went and took those trips. When I call them, they answer that is love. You know what I'm saying? So we need to do a panel. I was gonna do a panel. Remember I was saying I was gonna put them because they're not here, but I was gonna do it like a Zoom and put like the ones like you and, and I think it was one more guy that I was gonna put in here and we just gonna talk about the closet. Educate people, man. So people can learn. It's dope, but a lot of people don't understand. I spent a lot of money on product that I don't give out because I don't feel like it's acceptable to the standard. I want my brand to sit next, like my hats. I want my brand to sit next to new era and, and be able to- Stay pro standard. Come on. You know, you have what, look at pro standard? Come on now. That's a black dude named Mike Harris. See, he bad. I want, I want my, I want to be able to, and everybody look at the quality and be like, okay, yeah, this dope. All right, boom, boom. Look at it. He got his name in the inside. Yeah, yeah. Okay, like, that's the stuff I care about. Yeah. Like the outside is easy, but when you open your head up and other people who like vendors, like, okay, yeah, this is a real brand. Yeah. Yeah. Like we're on the little button at the top. I want my logo printed in that button. Got to be right. Like people don't be understanding that fine tune. But when they see that, they know, and if you, when you up the price, cause that stuff costs, if you up the price, when you up the price, so when people, they know that the detail costs, so they're willing to pay that. And you know, I didn't give a shit cause I remember when I first ordered my brand and I put it online, I was like, go online and shop with it. And they were like, feed it all for a head, hell nah, hit that, you too. And I was like, man, hey, this shit, hey, man. And border is not cheap. Not at all. Not at all. I'm talking about 3D levels. You already know. Inside of that motherfucker ain't got no stitching showing, you know, or he just, his name in that joint, your logo, man, come on, man, in the tab, you know, just to look for it. You tell. But sometimes it takes you educating people to really know. You know, sometimes, hey, man, this just might not be for you. That's it. And I'm okay with that. Yeah, you got to realize when you were coming here buying clothes, who would thought that we'd be selling, at that time, $200, $250 pair of jeans, red monkey jeans in box springs. Like nobody was like, y'all, hi, how many people coming here? Let me tell you, we have so many people who told us that, or some people will say, I remember, and this is white folks who will come in and will tell us that this story ain't going to last a month. Ain't nobody going to buy shirts for this price. Y'all still here and walk out. We like, we laughing because we know, we know that we knew our customer and we wasn't worried about what you say. We knew already how to shop around. And that'd be the thing too though. But one thing I can't say, it take, you got to have a pardon and crime. That's what I love about y'all, man. Man, here we go, there, Taylor, right? Taylor, Taylor said the same thing. I have a pardon and crime and I love the fact that I do got a pardon and crime. So now, when I'm doing things, I'm more at ease with it, you know what I'm saying? Like, I realized that's what I was missing and a lot of shit that I was doing because I didn't have nobody to be like, your peace is a powerful motherfucker. And you don't really realize how much it is until you actually get it. Yeah, yeah. And you got to understand it ain't going to be always peaches and queens. No, it's just not. But, there's some uphill battles, but you got to stick in there. But I always say you have to keep God in the middle of it. Man, that's important. And I'm learning that too though. That's important. So it's like transitioning because when you wanted those guys in the city that you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You got to a woman that's one of those girls that can, any man could shoot at them. And you know what I'm saying? You got to do, the he can shoot at any woman. And y'all both, except like, hey man, it might be somebody richer, might be somebody finer, whatever, but it's us. And y'all both locked in on that, just that statement alone. Hey man, you boys got a limit in the bash. That's some bad shit that boy. So which you saying that? So, cause I know that there'll be probably females in that inbox and everything else like that. You know what's so crazy? I don't even get that no more. You don't? I'm so locked in on mine. They don't even get it no more. And if I do get it, it's probably somebody that they just out of sight out of mind. It's just like, why? Look at that. I don't know who this is, baby. It to the point that I don't know who that is, baby. All right, cool, we good. Cause I know you ain't no like, and it's like, if I don't answer the phone, it's like, I don't care where I'm at. That's what I learned too. You got to be, you got to be, you got to respect your partner enough where it don't matter what you're doing, how you answering that phone. Even to say, I'll call you right back. Yeah, like even just that, like just, hey man, because you might think, I was growing up thinking like, man, you trying to check up on me, you trying to see what I'm, and it's like, she, hell nah, I'm sitting in the bed, and I'm, damn me, I just had a little talk. I make sure you're outside. I'm thinking about you, right. And I never thought like that. Like cause I was, I was just young. It take growing up and going through some things, man. We like to say, coming, we got about to hit 20 years in a little bit, and we not far from it. And at the end of the day, man, no, real talk, like, but it's God though, you know what I'm saying? Now God, it can't happen, bro. Man, people don't be the preacher in that shit no more, man. Like my mom, they going up 40. I'll be like, I'll be like, that's a long time. And I know my daddy ass old. Yeah, yeah. And I know my momma, get off, get off, get off. It ain't easy. So I was like, man, but the catch is you gotta see it through. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna get that bad day. So it be done. You just gotta, you gotta sacrifice for each other. And communication is key, too. Man, say, man, you know, it's dope, man, when you can, when you can say, hey, man, we got to do something that's meaningful tonight. I think it was a meaningful night for Boss Talk 101. No, for sure, man. You know, because like I said, this was something that had to happen. You know, there's, there are some that in the city that will be on Boss Talk 101. We never charge nobody. I always say that. Everybody be trying, man, they in the inbox full. Inbox is full. I'm like, I'm on the front end of you. How much front end of you? And we never tell you. I'm like, they don't work like that. It comes from here. It comes from here. It's out of here. You hear what I say? It ain't gonna lie, man. Y'all motivated me to like, you know what I'm saying? Like step it up. Like I might need to, I might need to do something for her. We do that to everybody. And I got some niggas in the city that I know. I make niggas move. I made niggas change their whole format up. I could tell you something blow your mind. And they told me some of like, God dang, like it's just the energy and the way we bringing it. I love it, y'all. I knew it. I knew it was the next level thing. Because we ain't coming. But we believe that everybody can get it. We not come in and about it. Do whatever you want to do. And that's what we're about to do. What make it so player is when it's like, man, say this line ain't so big. It's so much. Exactly. It's like, man, we doing this for this reason. Y'all might be doing it for that reason, but the kitchen, y'all reason might not hold up to my reason. I was gonna ask you about something. Y'all just make me think of it before you get off of here or the bloggers, man, that are in the city. They everywhere bloggers. Everybody. My boy shout out to Crisco. I seen you was on there. Just the different, not only just all these different platforms. I salute all the platforms. No, no, no. Wait a minute. And they all predominantly coming out of Dallas and some of them, you know, I'm taking pictures with people now. She know that you can't even go to something like, man, can we get a picture? Because they loving these platforms, bro. What do you think about it? And how does it play into the music? Hey, it's a gift and a curse. Because one thing about it as a DJ, I know, hey man, the DJ is not playing your music. You only can go so far bottom line. But the bloggers are starting to make the artist feel like, hey man, if the blogger posts you enough, you're gonna be big. And that's not the case. Okay. Other than that, I love it because you're still giving them an opportunity to reach somebody and be heard somewhere. So as many bloggers that come out, it's dope for the simple fact that, hey, with our child, y'all, you might be this close to helping somebody get to that next point, the next goal that they need to reach. So it's dope that the bloggers is it. It's just to catch us. Clickbait is with past the fact of positive enlightenment. You know what I'm saying? And I understand it because they turn it into a business but at the same time, you gotta be stronger. You can't go with the God damn meter, the wolf tickets. You just gotta stick to your roots and make it stronger. And a lot of people, they always file. A lot of bloggers are always gonna file because you need content like that. Negative content draws more influence than positive content. And I hate that. That's the law of the gun. I don't think you get around it though. We found that out the hard way. We can't get around it. We call ourself bro. When we started, it was all, we're trying to do everything. We're trying to be positive. We're trying to be positive. And then it was all of a sudden like, nigga, did you just say this about him? I can't let you say that and get away with that. I gotta bring him on here. I'm serious. I drove all the way to Houston to go get a nigga on my platform just to make sure he got to say his piece. Come on, man. I'm being real. When you speak over here, I can't let that. That ain't fair. It ain't fair? You ain't saying that? You ain't, man. I know. Did we dig number three, didn't we? Yeah, we did. But you know what I wanted to say about? And it was, go ahead. The difference with the music, when you go and DJ plays your music compared to whenever you come on a platform is that DJ play music, all you hear is music. You fall in love with music. But when you come to a platform, depends on the platform because some platforms don't really ask you background and all of that. You get to fall in love with the individuals because for me, I can love somebody music. But when I meet them in person, I realize that they're just an egg hole. I used to stop fucking with them. Easy, easy. But if I get to know you. And them platforms give people a gift and occur, all right, like, like when we had the podcast, it made people fall in love like that. It didn't hit that crush, you know what I'm saying? Like, now, okay, hit that. And it got kids, you take her. It gives, it enlightens people on so much more that making me to fall in love with you or say, fuck you. Right. So it works in your favor, depending on the character that you have within yourself. Exactly. Yeah, I think so. And you just got to, you know, you got to make sure that, like we, like when you look at those pictures on the wall, man, that tells me the reason why, you know, we got so many different people from so many different states, from so many different places coming here being on this platform. Cause we've been dealing with all these people the whole time and it don't just, it's not just a Dallas thing. It come full circle. It's just everybody just like, hey, whatever you need. It come full circle. And that's the whole game, man. Thank you for coming on Boss Talk 101, what a bosses talk, man. Like I said, Mr. Hittay, we love you. We glad you came through. No, no, no, no. And this ain't the last time, I know. No, I gotta come back and bring y'all some gear. Well, and we gonna have some for you too. No. You just gotta tell me when we gonna do it again. And where people can find your gear if they want to buy it. HidalgoUSA.com. And then a question on the Instagram page, HidalgoUSA. And you know. Did you have your stuff in the store at one time? There was a time. I got my clothes at Athletes Foot in Lancaster and Athletes Foot in Fort Worth and all the Athletes Foot in like the DLW area in Royalty, Royalty DLW. See, I love that. How did you get it into? I first started working with Athletes Foot on some marketing and just helping them do marketing. Okay. And then I just cranked up some clothes and they're like, man, put it in the store. And so it's just been rolling ever since. That's awesome. God open doors, no man can shut. No doubt. Man, thank you so much, man. Blessing, blessing. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101 where the boss is told. And we out.