 okay so a subscriber suggested in my latest live stream to try out older kd plasma versions and i thought why not but now that i do actually see older kd plasma versions i'm starting to regret it because well i mean i gotta be happy that in the last 13 versions there has been so much work on improving the appearance of everything because it is so much better so what kd plasma is this and i actually choose the first kd plasma version that i've ever used this is the kd plasma version that actually convinced me to use kd plasma daily even though i customized pretty much everything back in the day so what are we talking about let's open up system settings and well noticeably enough if you actually go into system settings you will find no mention whatsoever on what versions we are using i keep making that mistake it's in system info center and this is kd plasma 5.12.9 with the opal background i still remember that so let's start with the first thing that i see which is why is the panel so small like when i do remember when it was proposed to make the panel bigger i think maybe it was it happened multiple times but the latest latest time it was proposed by if i remember correctly nick graham and if i remember correctly i was absolutely against the idea and after some weeks i was like you know what that's actually much better and now seeing this yes totally better with a 14 pixels panel so let's try uh how did you actually edit the panel again the new edit mode is so much better okay so you just do this and then height you just have to guess the height you don't see the actual number okay let's make it like this did we we don't have the alternatives here so i cannot switch to the icons only task manager from here and i guess this is a button to remove the widget if so it's a trouble button because this is to close dialogues not to remove anything it should be a trash icon like now it is and although i gotta say i do like this configure even though now it's it also says configure as a label in and now you can see that the show desktop button became it's not symbolic anymore which looks so bad i also remember when there was the merger quest to make the show desktop always symbolic regardless of the panel size and it was not as easy to implement as a third it was going to be and uh we do have one feature in kd plasma 5.12 that we don't in kd plasma latest and that a lot of people ask about and that is rounded corners so if you look at here well it's not easy to see it but corners are actually rounded and they are not rounded in the latest kd plasma and a lot of people would want them to be rounded the reason why they're rounded is system settings workspace theme i guess we had so many system settings revamps that i don't remember what this was in and it's not here where is it application style yes window decoration and there is this border size normal this on litters is changed to no borders and for good reasons because if you open up as an example the console in this older kd plasma version you do have margins white margins all around and that looks so bad compared to what we have right now but having a bigger border size actually gives us rounded corners at the bottom and changing the border size is another major quest that i totally remember and that took so long because there was the kwin maintainer that was against this you can see also here to the left that we have this margin which looks so bad like it's so weird to see like kd plasma like this it's like kd plasma but not kd plasma not as i remember it and then we have this this looks bad okay so the title is like super big and then the system tree is so thin like it should be taller i'm used to having a taller system um tree and fun fact making the system tree taller is another miracle that i don't remember and it was made from by net kram again and again i was against it and after a couple weeks i pinged him and i was like you know what it was actually a good choice thank you for forcing us to do it and uh totally and i mean this looks like without margins and i gotta say the shadow is bad let's switch to the light uh theme so you can actually see the shadow bad whoops colors uh breeze this is breeze uh yes because it's the plasma theme where is the plasma theme desktop theme it's called breeze like this okay just look at this shadow like it's so bad it's it's not a shadow it's like a one pixel black outline almost fun fact my first patch my first year's patch to kd was changing the shadows so that's why i'm looking at them so carefully also kickoff the old kickoff that's so important like the new the new one yes so beautiful and seeing the old one like this is not something i'm used to seeing and what else do we have here we've got screen edge add space or more settings well this is very similar to what we have right now so again this remove panel has the wrong icon i mean how do you know this is completely the strongest panel and this one is oh just close this dialogue it's fine so risky so what helps do we have we do have contact does this work starting the akonadis server can we add like um oh the mail program encountered a fatal error okay thank you and uh it died i guess so nope there's kate there's old kate with the old icon and i mean it looked pretty nice though this is what i recalled uh kate is why is this not ah yes right this this is what i'm used to seeing from when i open kate new kate is prettier but this is what i used for a year so this looks from what i left this top title bar is something that i really didn't like and actually manjaro in system settings configured the gradient to disappear again if you go into application style the window decoration again you go into the settings again how do you know this button settings the the icons are all wrong and in here you have draw window background gradient this should be it okay now just with this change now that there's no gradient this looks so much more modern in my opinion and this is what manjaro did and i personally started applying this option as well before the new redesign of breeze which looks just perfect apply everything we've got old discover that's so cute hello old discover yeah old discover at this coffee picture for no reason whatsoever like why would you want a coffee picture for featured applications i don't know there's also the kd plasma logo and you still see the white margin to the left however it's funny that in here so it was like featured and nothing nothing is featured okay thank you it's funny that even though there's this old frame all around the app and these like pictures from stock photos that don't make any sense i do see that this is for kd plasma was going towards like this starts especially this part with the having this starts to look like modern kd plasma and 3d chess okay thank you nice picture seems like touch input is missing from here we now do have touch but i mean maybe it's just the vm that kills touch input settings how settings now this looks like origami this totally looks like krigami so there is some beginning to stuff that begins to look like correct kd plasma 5.25 and dot hill 12 this is the old k system monitor which looks identical except of course now there is the new system monitor which looks beautiful do we have some widgets to add ah we still have this thing here i completely had forgotten about this one we have the toolbox this is the desktop toolbox and it was this so weird thingy that i always removed as my first step when using kd plasma that allows you to refresh the desktop which is such a technical detail that the user shouldn't care about also show desktop because this button here isn't enough and add widgets so let's try to add something it's the widget sidebar sidebar is compact and let's try i mean the widgets are the same mostly i don't see anything particularly different and they would almost look the same if it wasn't for like i don't know battery brightness is going to look so much different right no battery is available okay this this is the whole widget no battery is available and there is this big enable power power management notifications also looked bad and there was no time out like i remember when the time out was added to the closed circle and that was beautiful right now there's no way to know if this notification is going to expire let's just close it this this looks so bad like this is giant and this is so small this is giant this is so small okay i am i'm done this is was me totally roasting kd plasma 5.12 but you know it can't be that bad because when i saw it i kind of fell in love with it so for the next video i'm going to try to go even earlier and try kd plasma 5.0 and i already found four dot something so i've got at least a couple of more videos and after that who knows maybe i can go even earlier and see a bit of the history of kd plasma