 All right, our next caller is Cindy from South Carolina. Hey Cindy, how can we help you? Hi guys, thanks for having me on. Yeah, no problem. So I found your podcast about four months ago, which was right after I signed up for a very expensive online coach. I'm 47 years old and I had been sedentary about a year before I hired the coach. I've sort of had an on again off again relationship with exercise, often getting injured and derailed each time I start a new program. And the coach put me on a reverse diet. And what I found kind of surprising about the programming for the workouts, it seems contrary to a lot of the advice I hear you guys give. So I thought I would run it by you. The programming is very high in volume, often eight exercises or so for larger body parts, four sets of each, and a ton of supersetting of the same body part. So I found the first few months I was progressing and then I've sort of just gotten to this point of fatigue, where I just feel like my muscles are getting overused. So I'm dropping in the weight on most exercises. I'm afraid I'm going to end up injured and I'm not sure if it's the best use of my time in the gym when I'm reverse dieting. So I just wanted to throw that out to you guys. Thank God for intuition. Yeah. 32 sets of muscle group. Holy shit. Yeah, so fire your coach. I'm being totally serious. They are totally overdoing it. And they're one of those online coaches who's approaches. They're overdoing it for a highly trained athlete. Yeah. So much less somebody who's been on and off exercise and is trying to get back into it and then is also trying to reverse diet. It's kind of counterproductive to be training that much volume while also trying to speed your metabolism up. It's not if you don't know what you're doing because then what they're doing, this is probably the mentality, is I'm bumping your calories, we need to burn those off, type of deal. So is there a reason why you didn't hire a one-on-one trainer? Do you prefer the virtual aspect of the online coach? Honestly, I was just looking at social media and I saw the beautiful bodies of all these bodybuilders and so I was like, I'm going to go for the best of the best and hire this bodybuilding team as a lifestyle client. But yeah, I kind of have been shocked by the workout programming. It's just not at all what I expected. Okay, here's what I'm going to do. I don't know if this person has any more space. That formula never works. I don't know if this person has any more space available, but if you want to work with someone online, Marlon Chamelle, good friend of ours, he's actually in our YouTube videos. Hopefully he's got some space available. I believe his Instagram is Chamelle Fitness, I think, but we'll send you his... Yeah, he's awesome. I always... He's really, really good. Work with him, he knows what he's doing. If you want to go online, if you want to hire someone in person, hire a trainer who has a lot of experience training everyday regular people. Bodybuilding coaches and trainers are terrible trainers and coaches for everyday regular people. They're good if you want to compete in a bodybuilding show, typically. Even then, sometimes they're pretty bad, but you're doing way too much. Cindy, are you locked in? Did you pre-pay this person? Yeah, so I'm stuck with six months, so I have another two months to go. Yeah, and not only is it really high volume, the recommended rests are so short, like 30 to 45 seconds. Like, it's exhausting, and I'm in the gym two and a half hours each workout five times a week, so it's a lot. This is what we're going to do. So we're just going to chalk this up as a lost financially, but we'll try and make up for it on our end. So we're going to send you over a map and a bulk. That's the type of protocol that you should be following. Starting pre-phase, by the way. I want you to do pre-phase for about six weeks. That's right. Doug is going to give you access to our free private forum, which, by the way, the trainer that Sal was recommending is also in there, so you can actually communicate with him and us while you're in there so we can probably help you through some of this. But for the audience that's listening right now, too, if the trainer you hire virtually or online doesn't listen to Mind Pump, that should be your first red flag. That's what I tell people going forward now. Like, there's your first way of screening is do they subscribe to the channel, listen to the content that we're, especially if you are a the everyday person, like the competitive, it sounds like you literally got a cookie cutter plan that they were also putting the steroid at 250-pound bodybuilder on. You are running the same program that he is running right now, which could not be further from the worst thing that you should be doing right now for where you're currently at. So, pre-phase, maps anabolic is the type of training protocol you should be doing. The reverse dieting aspect is correct. I don't know if they're doing it correctly or not, but that is what we would want to be doing right now, but the volume of training is making that counterproductive, and so we need to scale back on that tremendously. Literally, if you hired me, I would have started you with two days a week of resistance training, full body, and we would have done three sets per body part in those two workouts. Yeah, not 32. No, no, so. Huge difference here. Yeah, they went totally crazy. So, I would ask for my money back. You're probably not going to get it back. Maybe you can threaten them and say, hey, I was on mine pump, and you sure you don't want them to shout out your name for being a shitty coach, or something like that? We'll do it. But yeah, you've already spent the money, so you could chalk it up, hire a good coach, but if you don't, if you just want to save a little money, start with maps anabolic pre-phase. Great advice from Adam. How'd you find the show, Cindy? I was just searching for fitness podcasts. I felt like something was wrong with my program. And I just started listening to you guys, and I fell in love with you, and now I listen every day. I've got my husband hooked, and everybody I can talk to, I tell about the show. Awesome. Well, hopefully we can help you navigate through this. I think the forum provides tremendous value. We're going to get you in there for free. Maps anabolic is the type of training protocol you should be on, and then in the forum, you feel free to ask questions, and there's lots of other professionals besides just us in there, and so hopefully we can coach you through this and then make you not feel so bad about the wasted money on this other coach. Awesome. Thanks so much. Thank you, Cindy. Holy shit. You know, it's... You know, it sucks. She's on the Joe Donnelly workout. I was going to say that. You beat me to it. No, no, that's ridiculous. You know what's funny is that when there's someone that does a good job, you typically... Because sometimes trainers get a bad reputation, and it's because... It's not because most trainers are that bad. There's a lot of bad trainers. It's because when they're bad, boy, do they cause a lot of damage. Yeah. Like 32 sets per body, about 47 years old. Short rest periods. She's had many injuries. There's some people that can do that, but yeah, it's not even close to being a demographic. No, no. Not even close. Bro, that's a lot for the steroid and 250-pound bodybuilder. That's crazy. It's crazy. It's insane.