 Welcome to Church of the Chair where we celebrate all the things we do well seated. I'm your host E here today with my co-host Chad Lusky We are currently collaborating on a novel tentatively titled Planet caravan. I almost said Sabbath bloody Sabbath Anyway, it's one of those It's one of those black Sabbath songs anyways So we are a considerable amount into this book We're pushing toward 20k and we are pushing toward the carnival today Hopefully we get somewhere Close to that if not all the way to it. I don't know what Chad has planned for today I'm gonna 100% let him handle the the Shenna scene where He finally goes out to the carnival Goes around to the back finds her pissing out behind the barn they have their get a meet cute moment And Yeah, well, it's a script script screenwriter terms. Um, meet cute helped me all the anyways their meet cute moment So, yeah, that I'm gonna let Chad take care of that I might work on a scene today Uh that I've had in my head for a couple days that's something that's like gonna be like middle of the book Down the line if not more Um, I got a character. I talked about I talked to this uh lord. I know I can't talk Um, I talked to Chad about this yesterday this scene, but I think it was off camera But that's the scene I'm gonna try and write with the uh the strong woman uh That likes conflict It's I got the scene pretty much Set in my head. I want to get it out. See what you think about it, but I added this down here Uh, the character is venus female strong man combative loves concentrate confrontation Leaves vehicle trailer whatever unlocked so people will break in because she likes fighting and doesn't want to get arrested For beating someone's ass for no reason So I'm gonna work on that. Um It's gonna be interesting to get That scene done with Shane involved because this first person we got to have from his point of view So I like a challenge and I'm gonna see how I can work that in to uh To make that work. Uh, I want to do that today see if it fits in with everything else Um, but that that's the that's the idea I have for the strong woman Uh, her name's venus likes to fight. Uh, hello Hey king, um and j rod. Good morning How y'all doing how y'all doing? Uh, good morning. Derek just saw you. Sorry. Sorry about that Look at all these membership badges. I got holy shit I'm I'm doing something I appreciate you guys for real So we're at uh 17,202 words So essentially we're in novello territory now Oh, yeah And we're we're well over what I call my 15k hump as long as I get over 15k. I finish Because if I'm not feeling it by 15k, nobody else is gonna be feeling it by 15k either 89 when uh, when did the land scale carnival book come out? I can't remember the freezer burn Yeah, I could I could have googled it myself. I don't know why I'm asking I do that shit to my wife all the time I want to say 90s 90s I'm trying to think of something that geeklove came out in 89 Trying to think of a better Book for shenna to have with her at all times. What about Maybe cool quiet eyes. When was this one released? Yeah, 1985 that'd be cool. Um, I've already mentioned dean coons ones if it is if it gets left um That would be something else they talk about She can keep a copy of Twilight eyes in her back pocket And since it's four years, I don't know. Well, what did you have in mind for her like, uh, something this way wicked this way comes too, but that one's a little more well known I go in a little little more Obscure than that Or maybe it doesn't have to be carnival themed. I thought it'd be cool to you know, um How shenna got there like uh, does she does she have like this fantasy of becoming running away with a carnival or something since she was young or whatever um, does she you know, she in she's Pringingly so the ferris wheel dudes x And i'm just wondering how How she got there because I may want to do something With that eventually. I know you're gonna handle all that stuff and it probably just come out naturally But I was wondering if you had any ideas Probably I was thinking something that really didn't have anything to do with Her like situation, but maybe spoke to her more of her as a person or um But I can't really I can't really Uh think of anything Yeah, let's get in there and see what her natural character development is and then we can always change that All right, so we um I go ahead and get rid of I don't know why I'm stuck on this. Can we go ahead and get rid of all this uh Later scene stuff down here. Um, because it doesn't look like you used any of it Um, I never got into brian smith j rod I don't know why even his most uh, even his latest one with uh, semantic Colesney I couldn't get into that one either. Um, I couldn't get into hers that and that's Unfortunate because I love all of her stuff. I mean, they can't all be winners, of course, but I mean I couldn't even finish it It's not often. Well, she she only has two books out, but uh true crime and wave are two the best Small press even like traditional novellas I've ever read um Definitely up there with your stuff. Jen. Um, especially Uh, uh, semantic Colesney. She wrote true crime Waif and waif was a true crime was more your style. Like it is all like well, they're both like realistic, but Um, actually you might what am I talking about? Uh, you like cronenberg, right? Oh, yeah Okay, so wave is very cronenberg true crime is very dallas. So you got uh, that one They're two completely different You know sides of the styles spectrum. They're both 100% colesnick But you got some cronenberg. You got some jack catch them And those two books I did the eclectic output so far by her is amazing I think she tries to do something different every single time she writes and I think that's the problem with bellis station I couldn't get into it. Um Because maybe she went I don't I don't know it just it doesn't it has her style But it's just not an interesting concept for me And knowing that I don't like ryan smith's writing and knowing i'm gonna have to read his to finish the story because her It's two novellets or novellas together to make one novel And yeah, i'm just not i'm not feeling it and it's clash books too clash books does a great fucking job um anyways I killed most of that, uh, but I did highlight some things that that Uh, I wouldn't mind throwing in some of the areas that we already have written Okay Just because I like some of the I like the washington apple And uh the crickets in here Basically you you you kept all the shit. I would have kept which is that's I still find that funny But every time I I go back to read what you've done other than the uh the the hose scene um It's it's been stuff that I was going to go back and change anyways so Yeah I like it a lot You're back All right, uh, okay guys, so this is uh, this is for chat out there chat not chat um so Y'all know I like my gummies. I like to I like to be on the green, right? so I ran out Uh two nights ago, uh, and I'd been out for a while before that Um, so I have a little bit more to go off of than just uh, just these past two days I've been kind of struggling to get up in the morning struggling to wake up no matter how early I take my gummy in the day. I can take it at 3 p.m. That's the earliest I take it I can take it at 3 p.m. And then it never fails the next morning. I'm groggy Exhausted I can't get you know, I can't get out of my own head Maybe even a panic attack or two um but The past two days I haven't had my gummy. I woke up this morning wide awake after only four four and a half hour sleep Uh, because I streamed until midnight last night and then uh, I didn't actually get to sleep till about 1 30 um Then I woke up at six. I don't know if I'm doing the math right I think that's right 130 to 6 a.m. Is four and a half hours, right? Or is it five and a half? Anyways, I think it's four and a half, but anyways, um, so I woke up this morning ripping and raring to go I feel great. I want to get in this I want to get some words down And uh, after After I'm done here with chad. I'm going to take a break uh shoot Uh tomorrow's video because someone came up with a good idea and then after I get done with that I'm going to rest for a little bit into tonight. We're going to play more Uh remnant two so Why is my connection going so bad? Oh because I don't have hang on I got a plug. I got a hard lock my uh I'm so lucky to watch both of you right now. How you doing supernova? Give me a second I got a plug my ethernet cable in right now. I'm running off wi-fi Well to everybody that's come in recently Good morning, uh Derek says I'm stopping at an internet cab. Oh awesome. Yeah So hopefully uh, hopefully We can play together tonight. Um, so last night I got stuck on this boss Um, and I was doing I got I got him down to below half health twice after like a dozen tries um, and then Finally, I just got tired of getting my ass. Well, I'm like something's wrong here Either this is a raid boss and you're supposed to have multiple people helping you because it's a co-op game I start looking things up and yet first off. Yes uh, most of the bosses are They they recommend you do it with more than one uh person Uh, so that's one issue the same problem with elden ring. It's not really a great one player experience You either have to use summons or summon someone this unless you're just a fucking uh precision god Um So I'm fighting this tree thing that keeps spawning enemies And I'm dying. I'm dying. I'm dying. I finally give up and call it a night Then I go in and I research it. I look up the boss and it's like, uh, this You should be this level. Basically, it's a mid game boss. I was trying as the first boss of the game Because you can go anywhere right off the bat And I was getting my ass handed to me come to find out it's a mid game boss And I'm barely like level two. I don't even think I'm level two. I think I'm only I still level one So I have to find another place to go and I don't want to look up anything else about the game But I didn't want to get stuck on that boss It was going to keep me from progressing But it's just like Elden Ring and all the rest of them if you're if you're stuck on That boss go somewhere else and I should have done that I'm not wanting to bang my head against the wall, but I was doing it last night And sorry this side of my face is all in shadow. I got my whole gaming rig set up over here I don't have room for my for my light. I don't think y'all care, but it's annoying me I don't know how that is R2D2 in the house Oh, you didn't got to the cornbread You want to spare your screen today? Yeah, I just realized you don't have a hat or a beanie on today I did and a beanie on and I just took it off. Oh, okay. That's why I didn't That's why I didn't realize Never mind I'm gonna stare at my my bedhead like the next like Dozen or more lines is about disposing of the Disposing of the shit out by the curb So if you haven't just oh, yeah, it's the it's pretty much the that this whole chapter is like Uh, this the whole first half of this chapter is about, you know, it's interaction with rita the weird one about the cornbread and then uh Anyways, and then he ends up going out there Worries about where to put the put the turd Anyways, but It's it's fine. If you don't keep it. It's just like it's like I'm scrolling down here. I'm like, I still I'm still seeing the dog turd Stop so it's it's It's quite a bit Anyways, I got dog shit swinging at my side like a handbag as I walk to the curb Sorry I'ma leave y'all too I'm going to take my break because I want to jump into writing and I don't want to have to stop to take a break and I've already been in the chair about All 50 minutes So I'm gonna do that come back and then we're gonna I'm gonna get socked in and y'all can watch uh Mr. Lesky as he does what he does I hate my sack I love that we both have this uh vision of rita talking in Truncated sentences take that shit out to The curve. I don't know if I don't know if you just follow it me or what but that I'd I love that we both have this Yeah, we we both have rita pretty much locked. We pretty much got everybody locked down Yeah, yeah so far um I'm meant to ask you I've been replacing deler general with just the dollar store like a general Oh, okay. All right. That's fine. I I don't know when dollars how long down dollars general been around but Around here they've only been around here for maybe a decade like the actual brand name right before that We called those types of stores just like the dollar store and then before that the dime store So, um, it depends on where we are at in the south because they opened here in alabama in 1965 Um, wow, but uh, yeah, um, they've been around forever here. Um, I know I knew they've been around I've been here since 95 off and on And I know they were they were a staple around here. The dollar store is completely fine. I don't I don't have any problem with it whatsoever, okay We have um, I wish I wish we had a full list Maybe I do for some doofy ass reason everyone just like travis pronounced the dollar gentle. I don't know why People do that, but that's how they say it around here We have, um, yeah 10 years ago. They opened the dollar general here Now we have 12 of them in my town Yeah, there's a joke around here that uh, every corner has a church and a dollar general or a dollar gentle Yeah, yeah, we have the same joke as far as the that and my town my town has been completely overrun with, um Um, uh, whatever you call a man, but it'd be uh, where you go get your weed Whatever they call those things dispensaries and stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah, um, yeah Just the whole like that we have one street. That's uh, uh, you know one of the main streets in in our town that goes all the way through town and embarrassingly people from other towns come here to visit the green mile as it's called because it's just I love it. It's it's loaded. Oh, dude. I hate it. It's you hate it But I love the fact that they call it the green mile because that's fucking perfect That's a perfect nickname Um, it's it's horrible, man. That's we have where We have 29 000 people in the city where I live, um It actually fluctuates a lot between 26 and 29 because we have so much military and People who work out of state but anyways, um Anyway, so, uh, we have seven hand car washes and we have five mattress stores We have nine dollar generals um, and One Walmart one target, but everybody around here thinks that the car washes and the mattress stores are, uh It's a money laundering because no one ever goes to them. They're always dead and they're always building new ones And there's even a guy on tiktok who's been running around going into mattress firms and, uh There's another place with a bunch of z's on it, but uh anyways Uh, he go he goes in there and asks them if uh if there's any money in the mattresses And uh, he's like well, you never have any customers, but you guys stay open so i'm just wondering if maybe you're running a uh A money laundering scheme and he gets chased out every time but I mean you gotta wonder how the hell these places stay open when they have no business not even on fridays and saturdays They're just dead constantly and yet a restaurant around here if they go a month You know without a busy weekend. They're they're shut down Yeah, there's a yeah, they have business here man. They're making money and Um as far as I know, I don't know but all of them are but we have population here is about 52,000 and they uh Yeah, it's it's it's weird seeing um You know, we've always had like drugs here and stuff but not quite just like the rest of the nation but not quite What it has been for the past 10 years and now that we have all this everything is legalized and we have all this stuff all over Every every place is constantly hiring because nobody's working now. Everybody's sitting around getting getting high because you Get a splinter and get a medical marijuana card. Yeah around here and then and then they don't want to work We got uh We passed medical marijuana here, but it's gonna fail When they actually open because the deal is in alabama There's no flower allowed The only thing you can have is either tincture some kind of spray or gummies and you can only have one flavor and that's peach Um while you can literally go to any one of our cbd dispensaries and get delta a delta nine thco thcp hhc all these uh synthetic versions of You know of marijuana that are derived from that stuff is not good for you That stuff is not good for you. I I cannot complain. I I'm not complaining. I cannot argue that Because I feel like shit the day after that's what I was talking about those are the gummies that I've been taking Um, and I've been taking them for I don't know about a year and a half two years Some like that ever since we went out to new mexico And I realized that the cbd stores sold stuff that I actually you know Work uh instead of just like cbd oil that doesn't work at all for me. Um And uh, we went out there and I came back here and I'm like, okay, let me try these cbd stores and I'll be damned. They had it um But uh, I I do know it causes severe panic attacks like heart attack And uh depression too Yeah, um, so all of that I 100 confirmed because I've gone through all of that But the the problem is here It's impossible to get pain management. Um, they either want to give you fentanyl pain patches um, because they they don't want the pills on the streets Um, or they give you a Tylenol four, which is Tylenol with codeine um, and The Tylenol makes me sick and the fentanyl is so goddamn strong That's what they give the fucking pain not not pain, but burn victims is a fentanyl patches and so we had this new thing where uh street scientists have figured out a way to Pull the fentanyl out of the patches so and make it into a powder so it can be snorted Dangerous as hell, of course, but people will do anything for a high and the crazy part about this is, you know, the government and The pharmacological people whatever they created the opioid crisis. Um, they knew how addictive it was They were going to make their money. They made billions upon billions. So we everybody knows that it's public all that shit um But at the same time they changed how the fentanyl crisis started for one reason. I know because my junkie friends They changed the recipe for oxycontin to where you can't crush the pill up It's basically like a a polymer compound now. That's time release. So it can't be crushed up um, some people tried soaking in a coke sometimes that worked It'll break it down. You drink it it kick in all at once instead of time release but the uh Ever since they did that fentanyl has gone through the roof because fentanyl you can get pretty goddamn easily And they didn't change the the recipe for that one So not only did they create the opioid crisis with oxy But then they turned around and the government stepped in and they created a and a far more dangerous crisis by making oxy Uh, not crushable. Um, and so fentanyl blew up and now fentanyl is every goddamn where Uh, but they've done every single time they tried to change it. They did it with morphine dilotted um Lore tab now it's norco Uh, they they changed a bunch of stuff, but you can't even get norco Hey viking. How you doing? Um, you can't even get norco from like the pain management people. They want you to go to rehab They whatever now I completely 100 understand the people if you find someone Cheasing the sister gaming the system Then 100 they don't need the drugs, you know, but if people who are actually in constant pain like me Who who need that and can function on this medication? I don't see any reason why I shouldn't be able to take it I'm going to be in pain for the rest of my life. I'm not getting any better. I've had five back surgeries I got metal in my back. I have bone spurs in the middle of my back. I have compressed discs in my neck I have two bulging discs up up above my fusion. So three in l three and l four bulging l five is the one that caused all my Uh issues in the past, but that's been fixed with a fusion Um, it's like i'm not going to get any better. It's called degenerative disc disease for a reason, you know, it gets worse over time And they're like, oh, we can send you to rehab. Dude. I've been doing rehab. I've learned how to walk twice relearned how to walk So I mean one time when I was baby and then two more times in rehab one time I was in there for six months another the second time I was in there for two months learning how to walk after surgery relearning and uh That everybody nobody nobody wants to help people who are actually in pain They created a crisis and now that that crisis has completely blown out of their control People who actually need the pain relief can't get the pain relief or They are getting something that is so potent and so addictive That they're even worse off afterward. Um, I was on norco for five years I stopped taking it. Um, because my doctor literally said she couldn't prescribe it anymore So she sent me over to pain management pain management gave me Tylenol or which made me sick But I was on that for five years I didn't have any dependency coming off now oxy. I've had I have issues with that because it is so close to harrowing Same with morphine and dilated dilated. Dilated is just synthetic heroin. Like it's the same molecule same build structure everything. It's just synthetic um But yeah, you can't give me so I so I had to find some way to exist without being in constant pain So I started going down the cvd stores, but you're absolutely right, but it's it's It's kind of like a devil. It's a needed evil at this point because No one can get the stuff that they actually need That you know that would help they got to go to You know the the synthetic weed and it's Yeah, it drives me crazy um Like I can't it's like one or the other either I am In pain and in a relatively good mood like today I'm hurting like a bitch, but I'm in a good mood because I'm awake Or it's severe panic attacks and depression and all that shit anxiety all of that the whole gambit of it Even some kind of breathing problems Like when if I do the vape I don't do the vape anymore, but it'll make my lungs burn for days on end um And you know, I'll be out of pain, but then I can't function. So I can't find a medium Um, I've even tried cratum and cratum is wonderful The cratum scares the fuck out of me because the cratum is just like taking dilated It feels the exact same and that shit. It's only illegal in like nine states Um, I used to drive up to georgia to get it But uh, yeah, that stuff scares me to death. Um But I can't find a happy medium Yeah, we've got a fentanyl problem here and and they they stick it in uh they're always put in heroin and even in uh They got people making like xanax put in in there and like a girl Tell the road you tried xanax for the first time killed her because it was It wasn't xanax. I mean they have like a I don't know what they're how they're doing it But they're making them a little bricks that looks like xanax, but it's not really I wrote I wrote wallflower because that year we had um Within it like a a month or two period we had like 60 um lethal overdoses and the whole town had run out of narkin and there was just because People are constantly odine because all the heroin had fentanyl in it Yeah, um, it's literally from my it's these things have been around since my drug days, which is 97 of 2001 They're just pill presses. You can literally order them from china. Um, there's no legalities about it whatsoever Um, and you just take whatever you want and you can press it into whatever shape of the pill that you want The only thing you can't get is the actual stamps So what they will do is they they usually have a guy Of a person or it's the person making the pill who will literally sit there and carve into The thing or they'll they will solder on the stuff that's supposed to be there, but it's never perfect So all you got to do is, you know, look at it closely and you can tell But most people out there trying to get a fix are not staring at the numbers and letters on the stuff They're just checking to make sure it's there. So make sure it's real Yeah, um, but I remember um During like my worst my worst session of withdrawals I was like, I'm not going to do heroin, but I know this guy who can give me lower tab 10s So I went out went out hunting him down And I got it. Them shits didn't do anything for me Come to find out dude at a pill press and he was just literally taking some substance So I don't buy drugs off the street period anymore not even weed because you never know what the hell is in there. Um But yeah, I found out about that way back I would I would it's the toward the end of my addiction run. So it was about Probably neither November or December of 2001, but those pill presses have been around forever Um And if it's a drug dealer that doesn't care about repeat business, they'll just put anything in that shit Just to make the money Yeah, it's sad Yeah, it is I love that you left the cornbread even though there's like no explanation for it And we're probably never going to get an explanation But I love the cornbread. I don't know why it just makes sense. It's such a Well, they're not tweakers, but it's such geek behavior um Also another thing I learned from my drug days, especially with cocaine and methamphetamines any uppers Is geek math everything they do they will like tally and you know Uh now you don't do this shit on downers like benzos or uh opioids or anything. You don't do this on that It's only the uppers, but it's like your brain's firing on every single synapse And you you just sit down and you start doing math It's like if I if if it takes me three hours to do this task, but I can get it done in two Then I can come back and have another hour or whatever and you're literally It's it's called geek work. Um, I don't know if you have any experience with that but uh That's another interesting thing That from my drug days because I hung around with guys that did everything No, I don't I haven't really you know, I haven't done anything since 88 I think from 82 to 88. I uh, you know did that went through rehab and all that stuff and quitting drinking was a little bit tougher for me, but um my roommate used to shoot up speed and um, but I don't really He's still alive. He's Out of prison now finally, but he's uh, I don't really have a lot of Friends that I like hang out hang out with that are doing it that kind of that kind of stuff I don't have any anymore except for my nephew and my niece the one of the method prophet I told you about Her and her brother are still They they stayed geeked out they all the time. It's he it's either meth or uh fentanyl And I'm just waiting for phone call any day now Yeah, I've got a uh relative who is Partaking in the meth then it said watch Clean out your trash can of bloody tissues. I see you steven king. I see you I love that story man. I love that story because steven king's entire career was saved twice by trash cans Uh, well not safe, but it it's involving trash cans because you everybody knows this in case somebody is watching that doesn't know King threw away like the first couple 100 The first little bit of carry that he wrote tabby pulled it out of the trash can and was like keep going Had she never done that we probably never would have already been in a completely different You know character art for king um, and then again Tabby comes in while he's writing his tommy knockers comes in and finds a trash can full of bloody Uh tissue And he has two tissues stuck up both nostrils both of them soaked in blood Dripping down on his uh typewriter And he he's just word processor at that point. I think but it's just it's dripping off the ends of the tissue And she gives him an ultimatum either go to rehab or i'm i'm leaving So I have a I have an idea. I want to run by you. Um, I figure, uh Shane can keep the sorry to bother you in the middle of something, but yeah, shane shane can keep Oh, I just had another idea on top of that. Maybe this is too convoluted, but i'm not gonna buy you anyways, so let's say Shanna has a copy of telltale heart In her that that's the book she carries with her at all times or at least a story collection But shane has never read it So she like reads it to him like give it like a touching moment or whatever like when they're you know really starting to come together and he ends up putting the The cocaine Underneath like the floorboards of the trailer or whatever he hides it in the ground and we we can constantly like refer to that Like I can hear it beating, you know something like that. I don't know if that's I don't know. I feel like that's a thing That I want to do and maybe add that into like I like to have bookings Booking those trailers. I mean, do they have a floorboard like that or yeah, um, so so the It all depends but either way. Yes um, so like when they use the the tractor trailers like the semi trailers what they do is they put a floor in um over the actual floor and most of the time it's for that kind of thing Um, it's to hide things that they're not supposed to have Instead of having trunks and chests and stuff everywhere Um, they do that they also hide things in the walls because a trailer wall is not Has some kind of insulation usually especially if it's like a reefer unit or whatever So we can do that. Um, also Derek is a truck driver. We can ask him If he has like any types that he would know of or anything like that. Anyways, but uh, um Yeah, we can we can do some kind of thing where you know, it's underneath or or whatever Or maybe it's just in the wall. I don't know. Um, but also the old the old old ones that like carry the uh, the mystics You know those those trailers almost look like they need to be attached to a horse Um, those kind of trailers where it's it services is both uh transportation and the living quarters and the The con not concession but and and the attraction all in the same Um with those things definitely they have, you know, they have the flooring they have Padding all that's someone have carpet, you know, there's all different kinds of things we can do with that. Um But wherever we put it it doesn't have to be in the floor But wherever we put it I like the idea Of and on top of that once again, it's a sound But even though it's a made-up sound it comes all the way back to you know his either a version or You know liking of certain sounds and him being able to hear this Is like it could be another bad sound. It's like the thing is always present if that the heart's always beating Um, I don't know something like that. I like it. Oh, yeah. Okay. Uh, all right And to lead up to that we could have like a character named Like when she's introducing kind of like oh, that's so and so he does this or whatever Um, it'd be like that's that's buzzard And he's like why do you call him buzzard? He's like because he's got that vulture eye And he's like what's a vulture eye? He's like give her a poem. He's like no He's like you've never read po and so Yeah, he's got So she reads him specifically the tale tale heart with a guy with a vulture eye Yeah I like that tale tale heart preference All right, very cool. Very cool Um, I guess so I got buzzard down here too I added him to the uh Anyways, it's just just a little note down here to our character list So we got shenna ferris wheel guy boobs venus and buzzard Hey, Derek, you still in here? I want to ask uh, Derek if he if he minds I told I told him I put him in something and I'm thinking about putting, uh Um making carnival man named Derek Buzzard could be the ferris wheel guy and maybe different people have different reasons for calling him that like she says because his vulture eye me Uh vingo, is that his name? I can't remember mingo. Yeah mingo mingo does it because the dude swoops down every time a pretty girl joins the circus Yeah, gotcha. Yeah, that's cool. I like that. All right, so let's do buzzard Let's move buzzard up here Then we'll get rid of ferris. Oh, and he's a vulture because he likes them. Oh There's so so many. Yeah Scavenger, he's just predatory. He's all that I like that ferris wheel operator Owner operator that needs to be clear because he'll have a say in things um I think I told you this before but um, so there's the hierarchy And there's like the king the the person who runs the whole place owns the whole place Um, and everybody has to pay their dues to him that would be mingo And then right below him would be anyone who owns their own rides attractions concessions anything like that And then underneath that would be the performers and then you have uh underneath that Like people who just like work like employees like they'll run the concession stands or whatnot And at the very very bottom of the ladder is the roustabouts of the tent men The people who put everything together That's basically the voting hierarchy, too The only the only people who can get things done or vote or have any kind of real like That can alter anything in the carnival are the top two which is the the owner and the uh The owner operators of the rides attractions the concession stands I guess I'll put it in later scenes nevermind Said I'm making a hole I have this right here dude I just realized something I wanted to call her venus Because you know a planetary, you know a strong woman all that stuff, but also venus flytrap I just realized that her name works two different ways Because she sets the traps for criminals and crooks and whatnot And that's shit. Sorry. I love it when shit like that happens Just call her this chapter flytrap. Oh, sorry viking. I don't know. You're you're already gone. I'm sure you didn't hang around waiting, but If you watch the vod viking, I'm sorry. I just realized you left Do we have a name for the county? Do we have a name for the county? County no, we I don't think we've done that Morning lee morning. I like everything's going well. Uh, no just make something up Probably Like marshal or falter or whatever. I don't know something something like that would be a No, yeah, come on. I want to see it I'll be right back All right Life life wanted I I didn't tell her what book we were going to read Together next I just ordered another hardcover That we got, you know, 200 covers because I don't read. I don't like read out loud too real if you do To your wife You just sit next to each other and read but um, yeah Yeah, so she wanted to see what book it was I don't think I told you Lee that's normal. I just want to tell Lee that um anyways continue what you were saying. Sorry to cut you off Uh, yeah, I think I told you we were gonna read doing the key and yeah Um, I picked it mainly while I love the cover for one another one. I have No idea Don't know if it's thriller. It's supernatural. That's I have no idea and that and I like that so That always usually adds to You know The joy of any any movie or book or Whatever So, yeah, but they shipped it in uh, I got it off ebay for like six bucks. They shipped it in a Plastic bag one of those plastic bags that the whole inside is just is all sticky Mm-hmm. Yeah, no exact which time out What the heck man I'm sorry. Yeah, I hate it when they do that. Uh, that's why I don't order from uh Who at thrift thrift books because anytime you order just one book They put it in that cardboard with the sticky stuff inside So that yeah, I've gotten that. Yep. I've gotten that before but this is worse. This is just like a Yeah, no, it's like a thin like a almost like a vinyl plastic Um, I I know which time it's it's the same thing as the as the cardboard or the paper ones, but it's just plastic Yeah, it's plastic in the but yeah, there's no padding. There's no bubble. Right Or anything. Yeah, and it's just stuck to this Dust jacket through the around the whole entire thing. So it took It's like three minutes just to get the book out Without tearing it That's garbage This is meow Especially, you know, these are places that this is what they do. They sell thousands of books. It's not like Somebody who doesn't know how to ship a book these right to deal with books every day And hardcover in a plastic bag. You're good. It's gonna get all kinds of things. Oh, yeah Yeah, they they don't give a shit. Um Companies like that are just looking them. I mean literally just To profit as much as possible Because each one of those costs like three cents When you break down the cost of them Yeah, but I don't really like the way I mean Book outlet. I don't like the way they ship me there. I mean, they got the cool boxes, but The books are all loose inside there It's they're being knocked around all the whole time and they're brand new books It is always nice though when you get a used book and it comes signed and the thing doesn't even say it Like if you get one from like Goodwill Uh, oh, yeah I'm eBay or Goodwill on on amazon And it comes signed that's how Check this out. All right, so first edition cold heart can it can canyon by clive barker Check this out I got this for a quarter to big bro tie Uh something something clive something looks like Looks like ben Wilkins and then signed by clive barker, but anyways, uh 25 cents Yeah, blew me away then I can't The sign one I got uh was Paper towns. I can't remember the author. He wrote uh, oh john green Yeah, yeah both my stars. I didn't really like paper Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of john's, uh, but uh, I do like I like fault nurse stars and I liked uh looking for Alaska Uh, all the rest of his stuff. I've just been like I don't care Uh, I don't know what it is about some and he's also he's pretentious as hell Uh in in person Um How much can I say Um Anyways, he's he's not the person that I had for okay, so a little bit of history real quick before we get back to work Um, I I used to say doobly-doo all the time down in the doobly-doo, you know description doobly-doo I got that from hank and john green the vlog brothers when youtube was first starting up. There was three people I watched Uh buck who was the news guy Was called channel was called what the buck? Uh loved him. He was hilarious. I don't even know if he's still around There was philt defranco or philly d. Um, and then there was uh Hank and john green the vlog brothers. There's also guitar man, but I didn't like him as much Uh, anyways, those are the ones that I watched and They all had this thing. There was this there's this group. I don't know if you've ever heard of it called, uh, nerd fight area Um, and they called their fans and followers nerd fighters. Um, basically being a nerd for good or whatever. Um And I got doobly-doo from from them Everyone in nerd fight area used that. Uh, and it's just happened to be like That phrase is gone gone with the wind. Um, but I kind of brought it back and everyone who's like, I love I love that you Say that I'm like, it's not mine. I always give credit, but uh, yeah, uh I got a message from hank green on one of my videos And this is like, you know getting a message from like at this point in my life It's like getting a message from steven kane kind of deal and he goes love your use of doobly-doo um Thanks, and that's it. He's never talked to me again. He just left a comment and uh I'm trying to how am I going to tell the story without telling other stuff I ain't supposed to say so I know someone in hollywood who has worked with john uh, and To to hear some of the horror stories while working with him like like the original ending of the book was uh, the main character For some odd reason being strapped to a railroad, uh, like in the old Like cartoons and and stuff like being tied up to a And getting hit by the train. I don't it makes no sense But hearing some of the stuff and how uh, john is still to this day pissed off because That the publisher made him change it. So when they were doing the I can't say anymore, but uh, he wanted to change certain aspects Uh of the ending of fault in our stars for the film and it was like No, and he he's just this big, uh diva about it And so I'm not a huge fan of john But I love hank and poor hank And he's got cancer now. He's been losing his hair Um, I hope he's gonna be all right. But yeah, john, uh John something else, uh, I'll tell you more off camera if I can remember but, uh, it's a What was that thing like don't meet your heroes or whatever? I haven't met him But uh hearing about him is like, oh, that's that's great But he also thinks that Fault in our stars is as important as the great gatsby. Um, and I'm just like Probably not But I'm just you know, I don't even like the great gatsby, but at the same time Probably not Anyways talking shit. I'm over here talking shit. Stop talking shit get back to work Um a fucking blast over here You think shenna drinks? No Hey sentry Yeah, or no, sorry No No, no, she's she's like the uh She's like the opposite of what he Is used to you know, yeah, yeah, I'm that's what I was thinking Because I'm writing uh venus is inviting them over for drinks after the carnal will closes and uh I literally Was working writing, you know, I don't drink Sheena shenna says I just making sure Yeah, not that she's miss wholesome or anything, but right I get it What's the average I've got this, uh I don't think you've already Have you talked about exactly where the fair is that like the property that it's on? Not at all. Um, it's usually fairground or sometimes, uh, I've got another farm I've got another farm farm a work Huh? Farm a work. Um, they they tend to lease out uh farmland, uh Yeah, like like woodstock was on Yeah, exactly. Um, they tend to lease out that kind of stuff Okay, but I was just wondering because um What is what is the average size for or for like a a large farm as far as acreage? I have a hundred but I don't know what that I can't even a large a larger size farm would probably be 100 150 acres Not a larger, but like a a mid-sized farm, but it'd be about 100 to 100. 100 is good then Yeah, 100 is fine. Um, yeah The people always their minds are blown when they find out I uh, I own 250 acres But it just doesn't feel that big to me. I mean it don't get me wrong It's a lot of fucking land and the the place we live we live in a clearing that's an acre Uh long it's a well, it's an acre itself And then there's you know 249 extra out there, but uh, it doesn't feel that long Especially if you're in a car like I can go around my entire property in about five minutes Um, I guess that is long. I don't know what I'm talking about never mind I guess it is big, but it just doesn't feel that way because it's mostly trees So if it was wide open space like you know, fucking Montana I could I probably like it it would feel bigger But it's so dense out here Aside from all the dead trees from the paper mill runoff I just realized this guy's got to eat. Yeah, I gotta write a scene in here where he eats real quick You got to do what so oh, uh shake Yeah, because Got up early Doug a freaking huge hole for a six-year-old kid Got a whoop done And then uh still hasn't eaten I forgot about that. He's still got some of that pizza left. I'll just have you grab And you notice you like the word softly like the word what? You like the word softly Softly. Oh, yeah, that's a crutch word hundred percent Uh tenderly gently softly. I I use some kind of variation of that But usually in my first drafts my ruffs, uh, there's it's all softly None of it's needed but it goes in there anyways Everyone Everyone gets a softly I also noticed not not from this draft, but from reading, you know, like four of your other books another I mean, we all kind of have our go-to's Uh, I think one of mine's is Her eyes were saucer wide or something like that. Um, yeah, I use a whole wide One of yours is uh It's not a question Yeah, yeah, I use I do it all the time. Um Yeah, I use that all the time because I like that uh, I like that structure. I usually keep those in um, yeah um, let's see here, uh, another one of mine is uh Oh, rager actually pointed this one out like five of my books At least five until he pointed it out All of them had a Someone with an apple shaped ass Um and greger pointed that out. He's like, uh, let me guess she I was talking about a character and he's like, let me guess She has an apple shaped ass. I'm like What? Dude like five of your books like bays and sound of broken ribs like all these books have an apple shaped ass Not apple bottomed or anything apple shaped ass. I'm like, well, I do love an apple shaped ass So whatever that's like my favorite thing in the world Anyways, but that's another one anytime I write about ass. It's Usually apple shaped uh, the big I think One of the biggest problems I had with cutting words. Now, this is an actual error and not a crutch word, but uh should have could have would have um, I would always write of instead of ve Uh, and the the editor that I worked with on bay's end is the only editor that had caught it Up until that point. So all of my books all my traditionally published books. All that had uh had should have could have would have instead of You know ve should have could have would have um anyways, uh And that was the most embarrassing moment when uh when she told me it was wrong. I had to go google it I'm like, is it should have or should have? uh, and I like my heart broke because I had published like 20 books up until that point And I was like god damn. I've been doing this wrong this entire time and uh I still ended up leaving some of them in But the book I found out about like I said was bay's end when she was working on that and that is the only review The only book with reviews that have ever mentioned it None of my other books before that no one's mentioned it, but in that book Reviews for that one people mentioned it. It's very weird. I'm about to take a break. I'll probably take a break when you get back I'm currently 30 pages into my middle grade novel. I always hit ruts though. I get it um Yeah, uh guys It here's a if either one of you or anybody is in here Stop being so fucking hard on yourselves Like it one of the reasons why you're in a rut is because you think you're in a rut I know that's like it sounds like some psychology bullshit But um and and chattel back this up when you get well He's he's back now, but chattel back this up. It's like writer's block is Manmade concept There's no such thing and the more you think about it the more you linger on that kind of bullshit Like i'm in a rut. I got writer's block so on and so forth the more you're going to be Because if you're if you are you're literally convincing yourself that you can't do something that you obviously can do So it's an mg novel middle grade No, i'm thinking magic together No, no, that'd be cool though Oh Come on neck knee I'm glad i'm glad you loved it century You're not teasing me. It doesn't bother me at all and someone likes something. I don't like Or someone hates something. I like bad. Can you hear me? Yeah Okay, I just want I just wanted to say the scene that i'm you asked me where The carnival is the scene that i'm writing is going to be after they've left the the place um Going to be deeper into the book So they'll already be on the road Because i'm i'm not making any mention to where we're at really in in here. We can add that later when we can know where we're going to be All right, i'm gonna take a break. I know you're I know you're probably lunch Looking forward to holly Who's become steven king's fishing lacrosse? I'm glad I hope I hope there's no no exaggeration I hope there's like 10 more books from holly. I wouldn't care if he spent the rest of his career. He's given us so much Uh diversity and eclectic re so many eclectic reeds over the years I would have no problem if he only wrote about holly like most people write about like fucking detectives and shit Anyways, I'll be back guys Probably 10 15 minutes. I've been down for a while Ogidogi I'm back Thank you. Thank you I'm back Yeah, alec uh holly showing up in the middle of the outsider was damn near my favorite part I didn't read any uh Any reviews or anything? I went in the book completely blind And uh, I literally like screamed when uh I was like, holy shit. It's holly One of the funniest responses to any Any good reads post I've ever seen Uh was Sadie Sadie Hartman mother of horror was reading the outsider and she did a You know the updates while you're reading she did the update for the page number and in the caption she just put holly because that's the name of the section and She got a reply that said um spoilers all cats Sadie went on a full-ass twitter rant Um about that damn comment and I thought it was funny. I didn't even I don't I don't think the person was even like serious They might have been but uh, it struck me as sarcastic in tone Oh Shit if you cut this I'm gonna I'm gonna kill you Sorry, hang on take this out real quick Uh Time about venus a strong woman. She's seven foot. She's seven foot at least and built like a yield sign Most of her is legs and she's got a pubic mound that bulges from her bikini bottom Like she's packing the same thing I am she's not though because there's a split decision between her legs It's mean you go and fight no Uh, you think shame would accept a beer No, I think it's probably just a reminder of I mean he drank that one at that one night, but it was kind of a tense Right. I just think it's not a It's not even just a big deal. You know, it's like it's not uh He doesn't have your normal upbringing so the idea of Partying and stuff that part of him feels like More mature than than most like it just seems such a trivial part of Of you know For most of us growing up, you know, we have our first beer or smoke cigarettes first joint or whatever. It's kind of a big deal and for him it's just like it's done I think you're gonna get a kick out of this since you like the Hershey kiss and the cornbread um so Shane is sitting across from venus uh, and she's talking to him and He's like he's just like staring anyways here. There's the scene Venus is bare ass naked in the chair across from me. I'm sitting at I'm staring at her considerable chest Which is akin to an optical illusion What with how her breasts are deflated balloons resting on rock hard pectoral muscles A gallon of johnsons baby oil and a family-sized jar of generic vaseline sit like centerpieces on the tabletop She's rubbing baby oil into her neck and arms while she talks And my heart's pounding in fearful anticipation of what she's going to use the petroleum jelly on It's just so fucking weird anyways That one I won't be mad to be changed, but I do like the uh, I do like the visual image My favorite fantasy series of all time, uh the dandelion dynasty by ken lew um I haven't I I think Marlon jane's dark star trilogy is going to usurp that But I haven't read the second book yet But the first and it's funny because all three of the books in that series are all going to be The same time frame the same stuff just told from a different character's perspective all three books Cover the same amount of time in the same series of events, but it's each character's different viewpoint of the that stuff um, so i'm not sure it's going to end up being as high on my list as Uh as lew's stuff, but uh right now It it is um because that first book black leopard red wolf is Better than the entire dandelion dynasty trilogy, but I want to finish it before I settle on that But right now ken lew's dandelion dynasty starting with the grace of kings There's one more book coming out. Um, there's just going to be five in total Ah damn many fridges were invented in 1920. It's crazy Dude i'm having too much fun over here. Jesus christ. I'm having way too much fucking Yeah What's my opinion of salons lot? It's a good book probably the best vampire book i've ever read it's aside from Uh, let the right no let me in Let's see original one called I think it's let me in or did it let the right one in it's one of the other I think the movie's called Yeah, let the right one in is the book I believe The original movie is that too it's called the same thing Yeah, all right. I'm tapped out You're gonna keep writing I at least want to finish this Um, I at least want to finish this thought but uh, okay. All right, so all right guys. We're done. Um I'm gonna Chat for a while off camera, but anyways, uh, or maybe not. I don't know, uh Sorry, I'm still in writing mode. My brain is still like I literally want to say aloud what I had Coming next but I do at least need to get off my butt. Um, anywho, thanks for joining us as always Uh chat anything you want to say before we go? No Love your shirt by the way I just realized what it was your hair was covering it and when you lean back. I finally saw the cover. Okay, uh, anyways See y'all tomorrow 9 a.m. Same bat time same bat channel until then all hell the cheesy