 Good morning. We'll get started Sort of Dave gives me the sign Okay, thanks. Excellent. Thanks. All right today is a convening of the Massachusetts Gaming Commission and the offices are open the floods have receded the walls are restored and People are having muffins together. So Congrats Todd on that. We're holding this meeting virtually. However, I am away from you and so I'll take a roll call. Good morning commissure O'Brien Good morning. I'm here Good morning, Commissioner Hill. Good morning. I'm here. Good morning, Commissioner Skinner. Good morning and good morning Commissioner Maynard. Good morning And We have An agenda-setting meeting today public meeting 153 and And we'll turn to you, Commissioner Maynard for the minutes Thank You madam chair. We do have a set of minutes I move that the Commission approve the minutes from the September 13 2023 agenda-setting meeting That is including it included in the commissioners packet subject to any necessary Corrections for topographical errors or other non-material matters Second any edits comments all set Mr. O'Brien I Commissioner Hill hi Commissioner Skinner. Hi Commissioner Maynard. Hi, and I vote yes five zero Okay, and we're gonna turn right to our agenda planning Everybody saw the we've got our calendar set up. Thank you. Grace And Right now our meeting in Springfield is scheduled for still November 2nd Okay, and I think on grace you wanted me also to note that PPC has invited us down to Plain Ridge for a Cashless waitering demo and that is being scheduled for October 24th, which is prior to the horse racing finals I do think Todd we have a real question there though whether or not it's appropriate for the commissioners to go as a group of five For that presentation It is not a training As I understand it and there will be staff there Unless it were marked up as a public meeting of some sort Whether it could go into executive session is another thing. Otherwise, I don't know if we could do two by twos Madam chair, I'm happy to jump in on that I actually with the number of our staff saw the presentation Pardon me yesterday and spoke to them about The presentation to the commissioners and it's my understanding that there's no sensitive information At issue. So if the commission is so inclined it can schedule just a regular public meeting And in all likelihood we can find space at the facility To for an open public meeting if that's the preference Right commissioners you got you understand the dilemma If it's a presentation, we'd be looking in and as Commissioner Hill you noted We are likely to want to ask questions. So there would be in essence deliberation. So it need to be marked up as a public hearing And I think that's my would be my preference for the five of us to be in the same room at the same time, right? Commissioners your box. Yes Commissioner Brian commissioner Skinner Okay, so if I'm there I'm at a bill to that Great, and I assume that it's best to do it In person in that way rather than virtual so Because the alternative would be us sitting in front of our computers down there because we'd be going to the horse racing So, yeah, you'll definitely want to see it in person. Okay, great. All right, excellent. Then perfect. So Grace Yeah, I'll work it out with Bert. All right, so that's scheduled for the 24th All right, October 2nd Todd is there a particular administrative update you're gonna give Nothing specific at the moment, but I will be prepared to do that Okay, and then we have a couple sets of minutes some commissioner Maynard And Judy yes, we will have some minutes ready for that meeting I believe Okay, and then Legislative update commissioner Hill In great like I'd like to keep it on there. I'm not sure we'll have anything, but I'd like to keep it on Okay, and then I Think if I remember correctly Caitlyn no to sports regs No, we do we oh right on the second. We don't yet. You're correct. Sorry. My head was a week meeting ahead. You're right Yeah, and any other regs For the second and not an even regular rex. Okay Then moving right to sports wagering. Yes, we'll be bringing back the Draft King's signage issue that Was spoken about at the last meeting that you extended October 2nd And it's for three waivers still all three Yes, so Caitlyn and I had a chance to speak and you know commissioners I'm not sure if you're in agreement with me But I've asked if there was any way that legal could Somehow memorialize what we understood to be a legal Opinion that really Was the premise for our discussion Caitlyn presented it orally if you recall correctly on on On the application of the reg and Describing the umbrella logo and how that would apply versus as you go further down into logo land So we didn't have anything in writing and I I was concerned that because I could not Articulate it that was my personal feeling I couldn't articulate the rationale and so I I thought I Need some more guidance So I wondered about that for preparation for the October 2nd, so we are having to memorialize that Okay, commissioner, did you have any questions or anything for Caitlyn on that? No, but I think for the most part it's really implementation questioning So that's so much legal questionings for what's on for 10 to so For what it's worth. That was where my head was Well, I think I'll commissioner Brian. That's that's a really fair observation because I Did think it was sort of a legal and Implementation kind of combined in a way if I remember correctly we were hearing from legal that Certain logos were sports wagering in nature and others weren't and I wasn't sure how they got to that conclusion So so for what it's worth I thought that four of us had already moved on from that and that the only remaining question in that regard was The signage on the restaurant that faced into the stadium at Gillette But otherwise they're really coming back on tend to to talk about implementation So that's much narrower. I think than what you were thinking of that's What you presented is way broader than what I was expecting on tend to well I guess I'm saying it's hard for me to think about the implementation without understanding the legal analysis behind it When I say implementation, I mean how long is it going to take you to put 21 plus on it? So to me, that's a very distinct question than what you're talking about With the one another one in Gillette that faces into the stadium But it's apparently attached to a restaurant that I wanted to see our specific pictures on Yeah, and I suppose you're right because we're looking at just the three waivers in front of us where the issue around the Encore sign came up during the course of that meeting and that's where I got used That's where I got confused, but that's a completely separate issue. That's a 23k discussion too. That's that's not this Well to the extent that it can be memorialized I think that's probably important because these issues are could come up in the future I right now would not be able to articulate the legal opinion. That was the backing for Because Draking's came to us with the three The issues so you're saying that those issues were resolved by our vote The only one that we asked for more information on factually was the sign that was attached to the restaurant wall But facing into the stadium and whether that was distinct from the name of the restaurant And so what I was looking for and this is me was simply they did not come in With any information about timing cost and mechanics of actually implementing the 21 plus And so that's what I was looking for is How much time is really going to need and why? I don't think we voted on the substantive questions. We just gave the extent of the waiver On all three That's my I can speak to this a little bit though and I said it in the public meeting so I'm gonna be here I'm just you know, I'm kind of Exhausted about re-litigating the facts of you know, that the This analysis I really want to see and I look at what bed MGM did With adding it under under their logo. I just kind of want to see it get done And and I wanted to see how long it was going to take Information about You know, how long does it you know, what's the contract period look like? When do you actually repeat these things? When do you actually buy new that's kind of what I was interested in and thought We had moved on to that piece But you know and I I thought that katelyn did a fantastic job explaining her rationale on the record in that public meeting Well, certainly not implying that she didn't do an excellent job. I just am having a hard time articulating it So thank you for that commissioner Maynard. Um commissioner skinner. Are you all set? It's hard to have Caitlyn. Can you hear me? Sorry? Now I can now I can I don't think it would hurt to have Caitlyn memorialize The legal opinion that she gave at the last meeting But I too was under the impression that The majority of us I can't remember if we took a vote on anything, but we had agreed that um Essentially come october 3rd if this commission doesn't extend that waiver Um, then draft kings would be out of compliance I agree with that. I think we took a we took a vote on extending the waiver to october 2nd yeah that um, I think all three of those were to extend it and I'm just thinking that october 2nd some questions could come up again Because they're going to be coming back I I hear commissioner brian saying they're only coming back with information on the third one But I thought they were coming back with information With respect to the second one maybe Because of timing issues Um, given that it was involving a venue not Under their control, but we here's crystal I just was going to say that what we've asked for and what I had come from that meeting with was that you wanted information on all three as timing impacts to the venue and or and As commissioner o'brien said some more information about what that sign is what what the local differentiation was And just a lot more details. So you'll be getting information about all three Right. And my only reason I asked for and I mentioned this to katelyn in asking if we could meet today was Should this issue come up again? We would have a memorialized opinion. So katelyn, I know you've agreed to do that and I appreciate it But there's no objection to her memorializing. I'm here commissioner skinner saying it's okay. All right Objection to it. I just want to make sure that That draff kings also understands that this is a very narrow Question on tend to this is not a relitigating of whether or not it needs to comply Yeah, and to that to that ends commissioner o'brien. I mean I you know if we don't hear plans and and dates to comply I I'm inclined to You know to to deal with that at the time But I just I want to hear about how they can comply with getting 21 plus under a logo That's what I want to hear Commissioner hill you all set All right. Thanks. So that that will be just some additional information that katelyn will produce for us. So thank you um Moving on is there anything else director band crystal Andrew if he's there Yeah, we're at this point. We have nothing else Rock over seven Okay Okay, and then item number six This is another one We've been looking for some clarity Good morning there Thank you Yes, we will have representatives from penn to provide a deck with respect to the updates on the deal between penn and espn I also wanted to make sure that we have on the agenda the iep report Regarding the psi bar stool branding relationship. So I just wanted to make sure that that's on there as well. We will have um enforcement councils that commercial will be able to present on that Grace, do you need a clarifier on that or are you all set? Um, Heather, I'll follow up with you to nemo right now just to get some language for the agenda for both of those items If that's good. Thanks, grace Okay I know that we have um A report in from ieb on a I believe on a director is that stated for this meeting heather as well Yes, that was my understanding that fishing wanted to look at that matter as well on the october 2nd meeting So that would be three items then from your That's separate and apart from what you just said, correct? Yeah. Well, I think it's the two it's the you know the branding relationship the report on the branding relationship with marshal and then the um The second issue would be the updates regarding the deal between penn and espn the deal itself Oh, and that's where that report comes in. I see the difference. Thank you. Okay All right, um chair Yes, I'm sorry. I'm gonna need a little bit more clarity. Um, that's okay Heather heather short Commission, I'm sorry. Did you um, did you have a question? Well, so could you clarify what we're anticipating? to take up on Monday with respect to ieb items Yes, absolutely. So we are going to have representatives from penn Who are going to be presenting a deck with respect to the deal between penn and espn And there will be opportunities for the commissioners to ask questions and then we could talk about next steps On that particular piece. We also the ieb has also submitted a report with respect to The branding relationship between psi and barstool And the barstool college football show and that was with um in connection with the commission's previous Um conditions that were put on the both the ppc cat one temporary license for sports wagering and the psi cat three temporary sports wagering license Yeah, and then do we also have the suitability report on that qualifier? We as well. No, okay, not the I'm sorry. There's not a suitability report with respect to psi or ppc No, but it's what we got the report. Um, I think it's just a couple nights ago from sure. Okay. Thank you Commissioner that actually would be in the judicatory hearing and we will certainly work with legal and the parties We're looking to probably put that under review Um, okay, so that's a separate that would be a separate matter. That's a that's a pbh qualifier. Thanks for clarifying Thank you. Thanks. Thanks. Commissioner skinner. That helps me. That's what that's what I was struggling with in terms of the distinction. Yeah, thank you I do however have one other item chair Um, and it doesn't get us back yet though. Yeah, well, it could be it's up to you all it could be for the second or it could be for 19 That's a good. Let's get through the second and then I'll turn to you. Okay. Just a second. Yeah, sounds good. Thank you Otherwise our meeting may grow. Um, all right Um, we're going to have um about had Heather is our interim right now and oh just as a clarifier I wanted to follow up to in our last meeting. We want to make sure that uh, Dave Malju has followed up with I don't know if Dave is there has followed up with with heather on our item um So, Todd maybe No, I I think I actually have to turn to Derek um to follow up on On that, you know, if it hasn't happened already um on number seven permanent IEB director hiring process That would be a second session. I believe or is now that would be public commissioners um, we can get Some input from um a and k on that We'll be all set to move forward on that then we have um Some racing matters. Dr. Leiband. Good morning. Good morning Yeah, we'll be ready with um four requests from plane ridge for different um Three of them are reimbursements for items that commission had previously approved and then um ones um asking for some additional capital improvement money for their um paddock renovations Okay, and um chat will be available to present those on monday Great. So you're getting a sense as to the length of this meeting yet If you need anybody's uh estimated time you can ask With that Yeah, um I believe the ppc requests are pretty quick alex from what we talked about when they were originally scheduled Yeah, they should be pretty quick. Yeah, um, I guess head there if you have a sense of how long that discussion would be That's probably the only Yeah, I don't actually but I can certainly follow up with you on that Okay, that's it. Okay, and then um I think this is a relatively routine but um always important discussion on the um lcmac Yeah, we should be all Yeah, we should be all set with that. Um We'll have a memo for you. Um, if you haven't received it already it'll be out today How many do we have? That's a very good question Uh, I think in mary on mary I think I saw mary this morning. Hi mary. How many do we have? Up you're muted Looks like six And you all received the memo yesterday. I believe it's um, yeah one two Okay, so we have all their bios and everything. Okay. Thank you All right, and you'll be all set for that Derek Have you had a chance to breathe? I have good I have I've had a chance to breathe We will be ready for um the item on the agenda I think grace already has the memo And if anyone has any questions we're available for two by twos we'll be meeting with commissioner hill today Um to review all the information and it as a tre- as his role as a treasurer And as treasurer great Okay, do you do you need a vote on that? No, there's no vote needed because the year's over and we're just sticking to our regulations Okay How much time do you think for that there? um Probably 15 to 20 minutes for the memo because there's a lot of graphs in there and charts and then um Maybe 10 minutes for discussion. It's pretty straightforward. It's not like in previous years where we had to Make corrections or Have over payments and under payments that had to be reconciled. It's pretty much straightforward this year. So half an hour max Okay And then we revisiting your Matter mark on the research agenda right, um Thanks, Derek Yeah, I we we can move this forward One of the projects that I'm proposing that we would add to the research agenda is An opportunity to partner with carlton university And funding through the international center for responsible gaming and it would be a pilot project With one of our casinos to explore a hard versus a soft stop on play my way um And this was so we're still trying to identify Uh a casino partner on this and it it's um, there's a technology piece of it that needs to be worked out in addition to Buy in I don't think we will have difficulty with either one of those And so we I I am comfortable moving this forward with the understanding that One the commissioner agrees with commission agrees with the hard stop versus soft stop And two that there's a little bit of limbo on identifying who we will partner with for this study in the pilot project I did send out to all commissioners about a week a week and a half ago information and background on How the commission came to decide on the soft stop versus hard stop for for play my way so we Bottom line and sorry to be so long winded Absolutely comfortable Moving this forward with those caveats in place Well, if you would prefer to wait, it's up to you mark. It's up to you. Which which would be best? Which would best serve you in your division? um I would like to go ahead and move it forward and as we it in my recommendation would be that for this one specific project That it's contingent upon identifying technology solution and casino But I think that it would mean a lot To have that part of the research agenda and the backing of the commission to to advance this This specific study Oh, so yes. Yeah Okay All right, we're in agreement. Okay. Now back to heather um I think we're gonna it's gonna Be a certainly in the into the afternoon meeting and that's okay. Um, heather. What else do you have? Um, sure. We could actually do this on either october 2nd or october 19th or another date. I think um, but the EVH has a beverage license amendment request. So we just wanted to get it on Oh Yeah We couldn't comment. That's pretty straightforward usually and with carers good and her divisions. Good work. Okay Anything else for the team on october 2nd? all right Moving on then to october 19th Todd, do you think you'll have a particular administrative update? I Will be prepared to present an update that day. Sure. Absolutely nothing specific comes to mind, but I Yeah, and and to the extent that you have something It's always good to you know give that to grace in advance and we can provide A bullet to describe it for the agenda purposes But commissioners it's also an opportunity for you to ask Todd if you want anything for him to address any particular division work Okay Minutes commissioner Maynard Yeah, but we are I mean we're continuing to put out a bevy of minutes to clear up any Back minutes so I would expect to have some that day Okay And then we'll keep legislative update on commissioner hill just in case Just in case And then we have the sports regs Yes, and sorry my camera's off. I'm fighting with my new setup here for a minute, but um We will definitely have 2 19 and 231 coming back for a final vote We're aiming to have 205 cm are 258, which is a sports wager operator's succession reg coming back on that day And instead of 205 cm are 15, which is procedures for approval of a simulcast only We are aiming to have the Regulations related to sports wagering applications for you that day and those will take a little bit of time So I can I can talk with grace about timing, but um basically replacing 205 cm are 15 with the reg about racing applications Any questions? Okay We'll be all set for that sports wagering What do you think groups? You're on mute director band All right, I pushed that space bar and it did nothing Uh, I'm sure we will have something with health rules or or Something like that by then so I'd like to leave it on for that Okay and then I'm looking That Derek we had Oh, you know I am I missed miss read the last um I missed read the last one. It was just the year 23 closeout. I had the 24 budget Okay, and you'll be all set for that We will be And that you will need a vote for We will need a vote for that because there are a few items coming forward that we'll want to discuss And that will be a longer discussion probably Yeah Thank you and and Derek. Thank you for uh, you know to all the team I'm gonna hear from heather after this meeting, but all the team that putting Katrina and her team and your team and all of the iep folks who have been Busy uh supporting and Working with mgm springfield. Thank you Thank you. It's been a fun learning experience throughout this process Well, we're lucky that uh We had all the the makings of a good village to do that work. So thank you. I agree. All right So the next meeting is then the november 2nd one, which we are expecting Oh, so sorry and I meant to go back 19th gel Um, yeah, we we need to have the um draft guidelines on for the 19th So we'll we'll need a vote on that just to put it out for public comment Because we'll have we have the public hearing on that scheduled for the following week So we will need to review that on the 19th then Vote to have that go out to public comment Okay, we'll be all set for that That was an excellent discussion the other day joe well done Hey madam chair If I could propose an agenda item as well Um, it's time for our game sense quarterly report Um, and I think that we could slide it in on october 19th. That would be great Covering up for the end of september and responsible gaming education Um Are you gonna then you'll do your um the update on on the month? Is that what you just said? Correct. Yep. It'll include include responsible gaming education. Yeah, great. We haven't seen long So he'll be hopefully presenting Yes Excellent good Okay Anything else for that meeting? Okay Now we turn to spring field and um race it's gonna Work out at mass mutual yeah, um Mills and I have been working with mass mutual on Scheduling that meeting there and I know we're also working with joe and his team on A potential visit for after that meeting as well at the spring field Okay and right now Other than our update minutes Legislative update and regs and sports wagering the only item we have are the quarterly reports Yep, those should be those should be set to go. I'll make sure to give them a reminder that we when we need the materials Okay, madam chair. I'm not so sure we would need a legislative update on that particular meeting And madam chair I'd just like to put a placeholder on that meeting For a community mitigation fund. My thought is You know, we go out we're going to have a public hearing the week before And if there were any substantive matters that we wanted to discuss Um of things that may have come out of that public hearing that this would be sort of the next opportunity to do that So I'd just like to put a place where we may not need it, but I'd like to have that in there just in case we do And so the public hearing would be on the guidelines Yes Okay that and the guidelines and the distribution formula essentially Which will be part of the guidelines, but I think obviously that's going to be of paramount interest. I think to our communities So when it comes before guidelines come before us They will be in draft form only and then we'll vote on them subsequent to the Um public hearing Yeah, no typically what we do is You'll review the draft on the 19th and then vote to put them out for public comment Then we will take uh, obviously written public comment and then we'll and oral public comment at the hearing And the thought is if if anything substantial really comes up at that public hearing that the commission needs to address We could do that on the second Before we finalize the guidelines Commissioners are we comfortable having that as a virtual public hearing? Because it is statewide You know region by vision. Okay Oh, sorry, these are mostly communities that are going to be participating. So, you know, they're They're already working there. You know, I mean, this is this is going to be just a daytime meeting for those folks Yeah, so grace. Did you put down for the time for that? Yep, so that is currently scheduled for thursday october 26th at 12 p.m And there is a whole treaty added to your calendars yesterday for that So right during lunch hours hour for everybody. Yep Yeah Commissioners, you're okay with that. I think that gets probably to the community is the best, right joe that hour Okay All right Under review Madam chair. Oh, sorry It seems like this may be a There's an opportunity at this meeting we have developed Summary the fy 23 research agenda Including sort of overarching key findings and recommendations This is this is something new we haven't done this before but I think it's it's a really interesting look just taking the All of the the research deliverables or reports that were were submitted in fy 23 Kind of boiling it down to key findings and recommendations and and we would love to share that If not at november 2nd, perhaps the meeting will occur that Seems like we could do it on the second If it's good in person Okay Okay, anything else for november 2nd? All right, then we'll go to an under review. I'm assuming I love is still under review Oh, yes, that's correct. Okay Some compliance committee still under review Okay, um HCA compliance Yeah, that's still under review. Okay, commission that's all right. Um the 90 day audit under review. I know we just Yeah Bruce Does it what triggers the 90 day the beginning of it the audit? Yes That uh now you in the last meeting we approved the last uh audit team. So we're putting the report together right now Okay, great. Thank you Then we have an economic impacts Report, which I know is going to be interesting, but I can't remember What dr. Andrews thought mark for timing Still keep it under review Yeah, keep that under review. I think there may be a couple a couple of reports that fall under that Heading, but let me check with her. She is up. Okay All righty The bat restriction Andrew's working on that and should have that done within the next week or two Okay, then we can figure out which meeting. Yep Richard, do you have any questions so far? Okay. Um So that's Andrew We have the diversity audit commissioner skinner that you're working on. I know the chief mow drew and others Yes, we had talked last time about including this in Executive director Grossman's uh administrative report and I'm not sure if he's prepared to do that with the rest of the team This upcoming Monday Thank you. Thank you commissioner skinner. I I think we can't be prepared to do that. Let me talk to uh, Dave Mulder and Denise want to make sure we're ready to go Okay And then commissioner Maynard and commissioner skinner you've been working with Cara, we should include Cara's name probably grace on That's my oversight. My apologies to chief o'brien, but on the licensing management system rfi Um When would the timing be on that? Yeah, we got we got comments back. I like commissioner skinner to speak for herself, but I know we got some comments back to Cara on On the actual Request for information. I don't know if it's went out or not. I think it has Oh, okay I could Yeah, go right ahead Heather I know that it has been submitted to uh, Derek and john sully. So I don't know if it's been put up for posting, but it is certainly moving Commissioner skinner commissioner Maynard um Only because I don't think Cara's here though. Heather can weigh in should we Do you want to give an update to the commissioners about it or is it that inappropriate or inappropriate? Cushion Skinner Yeah, I prefer to have Cara weigh in At this point. I don't have anything to add to what commissioner Maynard reported But I I do think it's essential to get Cara included in this discussion. So um, let's keep it on Under if she comes Here Hi Cara. Good morning. Good morning. Uh, so Uh, I think we've jumped to the gun just a tiny bit the rfi is scheduled to be posted shortly And so we would be having an an official update on the public meeting, but we are continuing to move on that Okay, so we'll keep it under review. Um, and then you'll just coordinate with Uh, the two commissioners and we'll get it on to the burn update. I think it will be good. Um You know for the public to be aware of this good work Cara. So thank you Thank you Thank you um All right item number nine We had a meeting on this The other day, um, dr. Lightbound Yes, um, I spoke to um the hbpa and the jockey guild and asked them to please submit us some more information that might make it Um, give the commissioners more information to work with Yeah, Todd you were in that meeting just to get a little bit more clarity that would be that would be helpful And then we'll sort of go back Okay commission statement Good work underway commissioner o'brien commissioner Maynard Yeah, we have another meeting tomorrow afternoon Try to see if we can get it tightened up enough to bring back Great Okay, and um item number 11 This is our sort of the housekeeping. Um, and and and more perhaps Todd and and commissioner hill Grace mills Go on to review Okay, uh, is there a timing issue? I turned to commissioner hill issue we're trying to um Identify a couple of letters that were sent in the past and we're just trying to find out What was in them and where they might be? So just we're digging a little bit I'm happy to also contribute to that because some of them. Um, you know historically I I'm pretty familiar with that so maybe brad we can just have a little bit of a A strategy session. I think um It might make sense We could include everything, but if it means we're not going to get anything out You know, maybe we prioritize for now and jot down On a list all the items and elaborate on a few Some priorities maybe taught at one of your senior staff meetings. I might make a suggestion that You ask them You know, what would their priorities be and then you can figure out what you'd recommend for the commission As to maybe three or something, you know some magical number to Put in one letter commissioner hill something like that, right? We had that very same conversation um recently and We um, we have started a list that that uh It's quite large and we're gonna we're gonna whittle it. We're gonna whittle it down Yeah, exactly good Because I'm just thinking of um timing if We talked about that yesterday as well Yeah, and you're the one who knows that better than than I do certainly All right, and then we've got the um excited internship program Mr. Maynard, Mr. Ryan. Yeah, I can talk about this one. Um Reached out to Trudy who's joining us and we picked up a couple of other friends along the way I think Katrina and Mark are interested in in helping and we're going to get a meeting on the books and I would imagine by the time we we have another agenda-setting meeting. We will have already met um I do know that chief maldrew mentioned that he was interested in participating or did he decide that it's okay He's already on your list. So I just that was a given. I thought okay. Good. I just want to make sure No, no problem. I just want to make sure In case he was listening Okay, anything else for under review um madam chair um, we have uh posted right now um an rfi for risk player risk identification and response um that closes on october 20th and we could put under review Kind of a summary of responses and um proposed next steps. Um with that That would be great So we need to add that for under review right now. Right. I'm sorry. Did we just set okay? No, it hasn't been it it's adding it under review. Yeah Thank you. You got that. Okay grace. Yep. All right. Thank you another under review Okay just catching up on the chair um I guess um one item that I thought we should add to our agenda and perhaps it's I don't know that october 2nd is too early But um commissioners One we we might want to have an update and and I'll turn to heather for this An executive session would be anticipated on um the cyber security issue at mgm And I think we also have another operator that we need to have an update from um On a cyber security issue And that would be an executive session. I understand We could do that chair. Like did you say october 2nd? What do you think that would be next thursday? I think we probably want to hear uh commissioners. What are you thinking? Todd thank you Madam chair commissioners. Um, we're anticipating a report being filed by caesars, which is the second one you're referring to um it it may be helpful to receive that first and then Talk about it. If that makes sense, but um What is their timing? Um, it's I think it it's shortly I'd have to circle back. Um, it's it's being prepared. So um, if you're inclined to hear from them on monday, I can reach out to them certainly, but um I think that we should be hearing from them soon more efficiently October 2nd is monday, isn't it? Yes I've been saying next thursday Sorry, my apologies um commissioners pressure skinner Thank you, madam chair. Um Todd did offer to reach out to caesars to get an under a better understanding of what their timing is I'd like for him to do that given that I think at our last meeting We heard the same update which was over a week ago. So um, um, really I am anxious anyway to understand what happened there But at the very least I think um Getting an update an executive session on the mgm side. We're securing the issue is appropriate for monday's meeting Thank you. And and I agree with you commissioner skinner if they are doing a written report I respect that but I also think we could get A report from our our team on the caesars matter as well Uh, we haven't had any update on that Todd Oh, sure. I mean, I could certainly give you an update On monday if that would be helpful. I I think that makes sense. I think we should If you have an information it probably makes sense for you to share it at that juncture Okay, and then we can have another meeting as necessary for their report although Commissioners, I don't know if you might we want to ask them to have that report ready by monday and I just feel at this point we should have more information Commissioner o'brow and I see you she's nodding her head And I think yeah, I think you also raised it earlier to commission skinner. What do you think the written report or at least The aural update Yeah, at least an aural update I think we're all in the dark as to exactly what what happened what the root cause of the matter was Um, I mean and then, you know, it'd be helpful if they can't have the report the written report on monday It'd be helpful to understand You know, what what exactly this report is is it a report that's being created just for the commission? You know, what what process? Are they um Under right now that requires such a report. It's just you know, there's there's not a lot of information right now Is the point here I can speak to that just briefly, but of course we can do this on monday, too So we we actually do have a process in our sportsway during regulations and talk talks about this And requires the submission of a report So even though those regs have been Put on hold until november, I believe because they're part of the data privacy regs I've asked that they follow that process and prepare a report as described in the regulations Which is what they are Planning on doing so that's what the report itself Would look like I would also just note that they have filed in ak with the sec identifying Some of the high level basics as to what happened And I think the report is likely to reflect A lot of that information Freeze or did todd freeze? It's me Yeah, I don't think commissioner bryan. Why don't you continue until I am freeze because I'm not hearing anything Oh, oh, Todd Todd didn't freeze on my end. So Todd was still talking Oh, so it was me and I couldn't hear him. Do you mind me feeding? Not at all. I'm not at all happy to do so So I was just noting that um I'm not sure where maybe I froze on you But that we actually do have regulations in the sports wager and regulations in the data privacy section that talks about This exact situation and filing a report and while those regs have been put on hold until november I did ask them to follow the process that we've laid out there. So there is a process That will be followed And secondly, I was just pointing out that they have filed an ak with the sec Identifying the situation and it doesn't get into tremendous detail for sure as to exactly what happened, but That information is out in in the public. Um, anyway, but nonetheless, we can I'm happy to To meet an executive session to discuss this particular situation I think the commissioners are are looking for that just like we did with our other operator, right um Okay All right So that will be on october 2nd anything else commissioners that you'd like to add To either any of our meetings that are scheduled or scheduled for the future Carrie, do you have something in mind? I wondered for regulations Let's see your you're tuned in. Do you have any regs that you need to bring forward that Are on your list? No, I don't have anything to add today. Thank you Okay, excellent Anything else commissioners? Thanks everybody Enjoy your day I'll need a motion to adjourn Move to adjourn Thanks commissioner Second Okay, any objections edits comments? Okay, commissioner bryan I Commissioner hill Hi Uh commissioner skinner I Commissioner manor I And I felt yes Thanks, everyone