 What's up guys, welcome to episode seven of girls who bet I'm Aaron Dolan joined by the fabulous live mood. So many sports going on. We're going to get right into it. And then we have a special guest coming on just a little bit later in the show. So stick around for that and shout out to all the people in the YouTube chat already saying that they are here saying let's go Annie. That is who we're going to be bringing on but live. I know you guys are about to the NBA right now. You're sweating them out before this year. Yeah, let's just start by saying KCP. I was warned about him when I placed this bet. A lot of people were like, he's very streaky. As of now he's played 11 minutes of basketball with zero points on the board. So I'm not loving that. And Jared Allen, I took his rebounds and he has zero right now. So not loving that. But it's okay, risky for you to even dabble in that prop market because it's the first game. Oh, I know. I'm a risk taker, but I will say Zach Levine. I was nervous about him at first. He is now heating up all the way up and I took over 24 and a half and he has 23 right now and it's only the third quarter. So that was a solid move on my part. But other than that, we'll just, we'll sweat them out as the show goes. If you see me react, it's because one of my problems is falling apart. I know I have the Flyers game on here. I have the Detroit Pistons game on. But in front of me, I have so many things going on. I tweeted out earlier some of the plays that I liked Pacers, Money Line, they're up right now against the Hornets. I also like Pistons plus five. They're only up by one right now. So we'll be sweating that in the fourth quarter. And I also like Wizards plus three. They're up by 20 points right now. But again, just the second quarter. So a lot of things can happen, especially a lot of times. Yeah, there's a lot of time. And then with the nuggets, I took them to cover a plus six and a half against the system. That game's a 10 o'clock. So I will be probably waking up to seeing the results of that. I was going to say, you're braver than me. That's my own team. And I did not touch it with a 10 foot pole. I couldn't take it. I was like, after watching them get swept by the Suns, I think I have a little bit of PTSD. So I was like, they did well during the regular season. They did. Sweeps by in the postseason was not was not great. No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't. But it is. I didn't have the NBA back. I am pumped. I cannot wait. I'm very excited. Yeah, I really love the player prop market for the NBA. I was talking with Alex Monaco, who I do a show with on Tuesdays. And he was he made up a he brought up a great point that I just kind of failed to remember. And he's like, this is such a like superstar driven league where it's like, you kind of know, going into each game, who to look at, and that makes it easier. But it doesn't, it doesn't like, you think, you know, who's going to pop off and they may not, but I think player props in the NBA are super fun. Especially when you have three good players on a team or something like that, you just don't know which one's going to go off. The Celtics, for example, last season were like that. I hated betting any player props on anything. That was my least, I literally middle of the year told them, told myself I am not betting on the Celtics. They played rough and roulette with was going to be having a night. So I couldn't handle it anymore. And I stopped betting on them. But yeah, I mean, if you look at a team like the wizards, obviously, like a guy like Bradley Beal, we only got it, you know, one guy that kind of holds down the fort. It makes it easier. But either way, I'm very pumped. The NBA is back. Very. Last night was opening night. Yeah, I was going to say last night we had some fun games. That was exciting. Our Bucks Girls Who Bet Best Bucks Moneyline was a success. That bounced around so much. It would be plus money, be minus money, plus money, minus money. And then obviously they were able to get it done. I think the whole Kyrie situation is not helping the Nets. I was a little surprised it was that much. It wasn't a blowout, but I mean, they ruled that whole game. No, they did. And I, you know, I think it's one of those things to where this Nets team is just going to need a little bit of time to warm up and kind of acclimate without Kyrie Irving. I think that he was such a dominant person on this roster. And a lot of the offense was kind of directed through him. And he was just, you know, he was a person on this team that was pretty reliable in a big sense, especially when getting points on the board. So they're going to have to readjust. And I'm not sure how they're going to handle that. But in my opinion, Kyrie's got to go. I think this whole in and out thing, the Nets just need to move forward with their season and realize that there's a roster full of people that showed up, did their job, want to work hard, want to play. And that needs to be what the focus is, not Kyrie and whatever he's doing, you know. Well, speaking of just the main distractions, Ben Simmons, obviously being kicked out of practice did not help. And it stinks that it's not a year later where we could potentially pick up a Bradley Biel or even be in talks with James Harden. Or even trading for Kyrie, which at this point, just because he, since he's now vaccinated, he could technically play in Philly. Anything help this team. I mean, they're playing right now. They're only up by four against Pelicans is the end of the first quarter. I took 76 years minus three. But still the distraction, the fact we're still talking about it and national news every day is still talking about Ben Simmons. I know, aggravating. Even I mean, it's episode seven. I think we've talked about this the last four episodes. And that, and that's just it. It's in my opinion, the regular season has started. It's done. Like, if you're Ben Simmons, if you're going to show up to practice and have the nerve to say no to Doc Rivers when he asks you to do something, buy there's the door. That's also just embarrassing from like so many different levels. I don't know. I just, I don't get, I don't know. I remember teammates are now saying, what's he fighting for? I don't even know at this point what he's fighting for. Obviously he's fighting for the trade, but at the same time, it's like, buddy, you're not that, that, that good. Or yeah, no, no. And I remember a few weeks back when we had Ariel on the show, I was talking about his attitude being the issue. And I, I think now we're seeing it more than ever. I had called him a spoiled brat. And that's exactly how he's acting. He shows up to practice and doesn't want to do what the coach is telling him to do. That's just not how this works. He's got a very. You can see it on his face. He's like shuffling. He's not even wearing the uniforms like everybody else with the jersey over top. It's the whole, he wouldn't go to the huddle. He's shooting the ball around. Apparently was there something like he had his phone in his pocket or something to think I saw something. Probably probably done everything that you could possibly do wrong. And that's the thing though, is I think it's, it's kind of his way of saying, I don't want to be here. Get rid of me. He's like the little teenager that's like rebelling so that they can get what they want. That's what it feels like to talk to the media, which is ridiculous. You think that if you felt this strongly, you would go to the media and say, I do not want to be here. I do not care to talk to you. That's that like he hasn't made one statement. Right. Well, again, I think he's, he's trying to make a statement in his behavior and his actions saying no to dock rivers is a great example of that. But I don't think, I think he's failing to realize that these other teams are watching how he acts. Nobody wants him on their team. Nobody wants that energy going into the season. I like it's one thing if you're good and you have a bad attitude, but when you're average with a bad attitude, stay home. Enjoy. I'm over it. He could have came and played hard for the first half of the season and tried to force a trade again in December. Like there were so many different ways he could have played this. And now it's just funny. Did you see the picture of Rich Paul? His agent is now dating Adele. Dating Adele Adele. Like the Adele, the one who just her new song is fire. I'm not going to lie. But yeah, she's dating him. What sitting on the sideline, just watching the games, like hanging out. And I'm like, meanwhile, his, you know, client, Ben Simmons is just crying, like crumbling, crumbling at the seams. Ben Simmons is crumbling at the seams, people. Oh my gosh. What a nightmare. Well, I'm going to have NBA back though. It's good. We have a lot of things that we'll probably be talking about throughout the season. I'm excited to see how some of these teams play. Of course, it is a long season. Guys, you know, start finding some of those trends. A lot of, um, good ones are usually first half trends. Like a lot of them were hitting last season early. One of my favorite first half, um, bets last year was the Grizzlies in the first half. They always came out swinging. That was a bet I could bet with very little hand handicapping and know that it was going to hit. That was a big one for me last year. Yeah. So just look at stuff like that. I mean, I'm looking at the Grizzlies score right now. It's 47 38. There's about eight minutes left in the second. So we'll see if that trend continues into this year. But yeah, that was a really fun bet for me last year. It was Grizzlies in the first half. So yeah, I think the Suns did something crazy, like 30 consecutive first half covers 31 or 32. It was insane. It was like, it was, it was, I love the NBA. I love the NBA, especially right now. I think this is a great time of the year because kind of like you had said a little while back, you were like, it's nice. Now that we have some stuff in between football. So if you have a bad betting day in football, like you've got time to make it up. You've got all these games. Like there was a pretty big slate tonight to look at. So it just makes it, it makes it fun when you know that you've got like things to look forward to when it was just NFL. It just kind of felt like, Oh, I really, I lost really bad on Monday night. Now I got to wait till Thursday night. Now I got to wait till Sunday. It's like kind of and also it's so much more digestible. Just given that the roster is not huge. You're actually seeing their faces. It's like a superstar type league. And again, it's 30 teams. It's just so easy to like understand how each one of these teams functions day in and day out. Absolutely. That's the one part and one advantage I think compared to if you're betting major league baseball or hockey or something like that with a huge roster and knowing all the teams, it's just a totally different ball game. So totally excited to have it back. Very, since we kind of talked about or you mentioned NFL, we'll get into that. I hate this slate so much. I think it's the worst slate that I've seen in a while. And we're at the point where teams are getting injured left and right. So Thursday night football, as we know, Baker Mayfield will not be playing case. Kenan is going to step in. He'll be playing Teddy Bridgewater in your Broncos. I thought today would have been a good idea. If as soon as that news broke, I thought the line was going to change right away. It sat at minus three for a little bit and I was like, this is a good time to take the Broncos money line. And then now that line keeps moving down. I believe it's that one and a half right now in the Fandall sports book for Thursday night football. And that total keeps coming down to I mean, injuries on both teams on both sides of the ball, basically at this point. This is a really tough one for me because obviously you've got no Baker Mayfield. The Browns had a lot of injuries before Baker was even announced that he wasn't playing. And I kind of know that. Yeah. So they have a lot of questionable, you know, injuries and stuff going on. And but it's hard for me because Broncos are my team. I definitely think after their little three and O run, they definitely took a little bit of a turn. I do think that this is a must win game for Vic Vangio. I think he really needs to prove himself as a coach of this team because this Broncos team, like I said, they were doing awesome. Everyone was hyped up. And now they're kind of now they're kind of tanking down a little bit. I have heard or seen or read that Teddy Bridgewater has been practicing this week and he is planning to play. Melvin Gordon is off the injury list. So the Broncos are slowly getting back some of their some of their stars. But it's tough. I don't know. I kind of want to stay away from this one just because it is my team. And I do have that bias towards the Broncos. And it's going to be such a sharp line because it's Thursday night football, just like Monday night football. And there's prime time games. There's so many people betting on this, but this is the one game. I'd say go to player props if you even want to bet this. I'm staying the heck away from this game. I know it's Thursday night football, but I don't like it. Also looking down the slate, there's some really long spreads. We got the Rams versus the Lions, Lions, 15 and a half point underdogs. Then Bears Bucks, Bears are 12 and a half point underdogs. Texans Cardinals, 17 and a half point underdogs. So if we had to go with one of these teams, kind of a long shot, I kind of like the Bears to cover against the Bucks. I feel like that's a situation where they potentially could. Also the Lions cover a lot too. Yeah, yesterday Texans, all three of these teams. I might just take all three of them since all the favorites hit last week. That one PM slate. Yeah. Yesterday, Fandle posted my leans video. Bears was actually one of those. It was at 12 and a half. I'm not sure what it is. Yeah, it's still a 12 and a half right now. So yeah, yesterday they posted my leans video and the three that I like, they were actually all three underdogs. One of them was Bears plus 12 and a half. The other one was Titans plus five and a half, which I really like that one. That's smooth. The cheats. Four and a half. So good thing you got it at five and a half. I did get it at five and a half, which was nice. And then the other one that I was kind of leaning towards was Colts plus three and a half. I feel like this is a team that's kind of heating up right now. And they're going up again. Who are they playing again? Hold on 49ers and the 49ers potentially injured quarterbacks going into this game. I think they're both kind of a question mark there on who's going to be the QB. So I was like in the Colts as well. I think I'm leaning towards the dogs to cover this week. I don't love that there's three double digit spreads for this week. I really don't like that. I might just battle through them and put them in a parlay. Well, and my thought on this on this Bears team is this Bears defense, I think is pretty underestimated and I think it's strong enough to definitely get some stops on this Bucks team and hang in and at least keep the game closer than 12 and a half. Not to mention, I think 12 and a half is way too many points considering this Bucks team is two and four against the spread. So I like the Bears. I think that that's a good one, especially when it's that big. I mean, 12 and a half pulls off the win. But the against the spreads, you kind of sweat that out. Same thing with the Kansas City Chiefs. They were all able to cover the spread last game, which was good for them. But before that, obviously terrible record. Then you have the Dallas Cowboys who are five and all against the spread. They are on a bye week, so we won't be able to see them this week. But I was so I was on an airplane. I was flying home from a bachelorette party and I was on an airplane watching the Sunday night or the Sunday slate. Quite a few patriots. OK, I didn't know this, but there's a lot of patriots fans in Florida. Is that like a thing that people knew? Really? Well, they have like it has like jerseys and it was I don't know. It was got the dolphins and you stuff everywhere. And I just didn't think that that like it was weird to me. I don't know, either way. No, it was actually kind of a side note, very odd to me. And just in terms of fan bases, like the Detroit Pistons, I know they're not obviously good, but like their opening night. There was nobody in the stands. Philadelphia, if we were terrible, it would still be a packed house. I don't understand other sports cities. I don't. Well, yeah, no, that's weird. I mean, really, there was nobody. It wasn't packed. It was not packed. Are they are they full capacity? Oh, good point. I feel like it's kind of different from state to state. So maybe that's why. So when I was seeing watching them do the opening ceremony, whatever they were doing, the anthem and whatnot. And I was like, there is nobody at this game. So just just to check in with you guys here really quick. Yeah, Casey P still has zero points. So shout out to me for the player prop. Shout out to me for taking over on Casey P's points. He currently has zero at halftime. So that's super cool. But either way, we're not going to we're not going to get too emotional about it. You have a double, double correct for Joel. So yeah, so I have two different parlays. I tweeted out. So before it's all the one you tweeted, it was wild. Sometimes they say, Olivia, why didn't you share that? First of all, I'm not obligated to share my my bet slips with you. OK, I choose to do that. First of all, I did tweet out earlier today. I said bulls minus five. Then I did tweet out later. I said there is a lot of public money on this bull's team. It makes me nervous. Something in my gut says the pistons pull off the upset. Oh, my God, you would have thought that I told everyone they were ugly. The timeline was jumping over this comment. But I did make two separate parlays for player performance doubles. OK, so one of them has grant and grant to score 20 plus and a pistons win. And the other one has Zach Levine, twenty five plus and a bull's win. So I did do a little hedging situation, but I told people that I was going to do that. But yes, in both of those, I have Joel and Bede for a double, double and a seventy sixers wins. So hopefully that goes up right now up up seven. Joel's got three rebounds, forces, twelve points. We need some of the other players to step up. Every time I post a sneaky part, like every time I create a sneaky parlay, people get very upset with me that I don't share it. But the same people that get upset, I don't share it. Are the same people that would roast me if it didn't hit. I'm like, I don't want to see myself win online today. I don't want to be bullied today. So I chose to share it. Yeah, it is what it is either way. Yes, KCP shout out to him. Shout out to Jared Allen, who has zero rebounds. I took the over on his rebounds. So it's looking like a really solid night for me, just in case anyone cared. Super solid. Yeah. All my bets are looking like right now at this moment, they would all cash. But again, you got to play the full four quarters. Did you guys hear just Aaron just flexed on me. She just she just flexed on me so hard. But we're we're like in the second quarter of this. It was game where the fourth quarter bulls visited. We're all over the map in these games. And now they're back up. The Hornets are up by two. And I was just saying Pacers, were they just up by 20? No, no, no, I was just going to say the Hornets. The Hornets just came back. I don't know what they were sipping on in the locker room, but something they have some good pay to rate because they are. They came out now on first half spreads only. I should have bet all of these first half spreads. They would have to be fine. Mercy. Oh, my Lord. Yeah. You know what? That's absurd. The Pacers need to figure it out. That's embarrassing. But yeah, come on. What's going on? What's going on with that? I don't know. All right, well, let's get a girls who bet best bet before we bring on our special guest. What do we feel? Are we wanting to? I feel like since we both like the bearish, we do plus 12 and a half as our girls who bet best bet for NFL. And then we'll figure one out for anyway. Well, let me start by asking first, is there a dog that you like to win outright? Because I got to say that Jag's Moneyline bet we had not to not to brag on you, not to brag. I told you, Jags were London's team. That that was pretty clutch of us. So is there a dog you like I have seen some chatter going down right now? I have one that would be close to kind of bet would be the dolphins to beat the Falcons, but I don't even like that. Oh, Eagles to beat the Raiders. Colts to beat the 49ers. I could see that maybe. Yeah, I feel like out of all of them. Let's play a game. Let's go bears, 12 and a half. Let's go bears, 12 and a half. All right, I'm down with any of the double digit dogs. I think all of them can cover. I'm getting. Oh, we do a little through a little bit. A little bit. Really? Lions, lions, bears and Texans all to cover. That is the largest spread ever. I wish they were all animals. We can call it the animal parlay. No, that would be mean. Anyway, well, wait, what is a text? No, Texans, is it a bull? Well, I think it looks like a bull, right? I mean, yeah, but it's Texans because of like Texas, I'm assuming. I don't know if a Texan is an animal because now we're confused either way. I think now I think it should be called the double. We do lions and bears. Oh, my double digit dog parlay. Triple D. You got what I'm saying, though, the lions. What is it? Would you? What? Tigers and lions and bears. Oh, my from Wizards of Oz. No, Texans and lion and bears. Oh, my no, that's good. The song or there was. Yes, yes, that's it. We're getting some of our animals. It's actually quite tragic. It's not as bad as I came and say the one time I texted them about a state and we're not going to get into it. No, no, no, actually, I think we might need to. I think we might need to. Yeah, one of my worst texts ever. Liv is like, we should go to Memphis. And I'm like, yeah, where is it? Middle of the country? She's like, are you kidding me? I'm like, no, seriously, where is the state of Memphis? And she was like, Erin. And I was like, oh, my God. I said, I went to Catholic school. We didn't do geology. We didn't we did religion. We many religion classes. So Memphis is where Elvis died on the toilet, Graceland. It's not a myth that he died on the toilet or did he actually die on the toilet? I think he actually croaked on the toilet. You're wrong. RIP. It's not funny. I just, it's such a great impact. I think we've said enough at this point. Yeah, I think we need to bring on our guest. Absolutely, because listen, she is a powerhouse with content. I think she easily has the most creative content on the Twitter sphere or any sphere. She is a football legend, in my opinion. So I want to bring her on before I pronounce her last name, because I don't want to mess it up. So, Annie, let's bring on Annie was on, but I want to hear what her last name is pronounced, because we had a little bit of discussion before the show. And I want to make sure I'm not butchering it. So, Annie, welcome to the show. Yes. Thank you for coming on. Oh, thank you for having me. We're so excited. It's pronounced agar. Agar. OK, agar, agar, agar. Now we got it down. I think some of us said agar and then some said agar, but we know it now. Agar before, so it's, you know, you can't go wrong. She just wants to whatever at this point. Basically, yes. Well, Annie, Annie joining us, we appreciate it. I was really enjoying your conversation before. So, you know, us embarrassing ourselves. No, I do that all the time. Every Wednesday night, we embarrass ourselves. It's just kind of becoming a ritual at this point. But I guess, since you heard, how do you feel about the Texans and Lions and Bears? Oh, my parlay. I like that a lot. I know it. I was looking forward to these games. There's those three of the spreads are 10 points. I think those are the only three where their 10 points are higher, right? Yeah. And other than maybe the Texans, I'm strong on the I'm strong on the Lions covering sitting through three and three against the spread. So that one should be a good one. But the Texans are just other than Davis Mills. I was riding the whole Davis Mills. Oh, we love him. He's amazing. Love that his neck is like a mile long. But other than that, I'm not fan of him now. I don't think there's any kind of, you know, he struggled last week, but I don't know. I just don't see him covering that big of a spread. So other than that, I love it. I love the idea. I know it's hard to put your trust in Davis Mills. Let's be real. I mean, it's a tough situation for sure. So, Annie, we wanted to make sure to get you on the show because you make, as Liv said, some of the most creative content. And some of those videos that you put out, I'm like, how much work goes into these? And where did you come up with this concept? How long does it take? You have all these questions about these awesome, obviously little concept pieces that you make about these teams being in meetings. So you can kind of give us some background info on that. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, so this whole crazy idea happened when COVID took over, excuse me, in a cold or something, it's not COVID. When COVID started, it was great timing. And I was working in local news. I was a sports reporter. And we didn't have anything to cover, obviously, because we covered a lot of high school sports. All high school sports weren't happening anymore. And I kind of, like, there was a dark cloud over America, basically, right, because I'm over the world because we didn't have any sports. March Madness had just stopped. We were ramping up for Big Ten Football because the spring games were happening. And I was looking forward to going, like I was looking for storylines at Michigan State and Michigan, those were primarily who we covered. And all of it just kind of stopped. And it was really hard for me, as I'm sure a lot of other people in sports because we didn't know what, you know, East Canada's trying to fill content. We were trying to find things to do. And I just had gotten on TikTok. I have a younger sister who was 17 or 18 at the time. And I remember she just laid into me, like, you don't know what you're doing. This is, you're not gonna understand half of it. I didn't even know where the record button was. So I was like, yeah, I don't know what I'm doing on here. But it was fun to, you know, watch and observe. And kind of got the idea that maybe I'll just do a TikTok now and then. And so I started doing TikToks. And then it's a great, I figured that was a really cool way to do kind of the videos that I enjoy doing. And I didn't really have this concept in mind. I just kind of started doing it because it fit really well with, I guess, my humor and my family has that kind of self-deprecating sports humor where you tend to make fun of the teams and the players. Because nobody is gonna, you know, nobody can deny that, yeah, like, your alliance is suck. I'm sorry. That's just how it is, you know? So we just grew up with that. It probably is because I'm in Michigan. My whole family is like, they're all alliance fans. So they just know self-deprecating is what we live with. Anyway, we'll get to that. So I had this idea to look at Big Ten Football because that's what I grew up with. And I figured if all of us are doing these Zoom calls, we all have these kind of video chats going on. They must be doing the same thing. But how funny would it be to have all the teams in the conferences trying to talk to each other when I know for a fact, Michigan and Michigan State hate each other. I mean, their administration hates each other, not just the teams. So I thought how funny it would be to demonstrate that in a video. And the first one was super, I didn't have a script. I just went off of what I knew about the teams because that's, you know, we knew what kind of their personality was based on how their fans interact and all that kind of stuff. So I put that into a video and it went crazy on Twitter and TikTok apparently liked it too. So then it was from there. I love it. It's so funny you bring up TikTok because I am the oldest of four and my youngest sister is 12. We'll show you 12 in the next couple of weeks. And God, TikTok is like the thing. And it's like, it's so crazy how I all walk upstairs and she's like concocting stuff in the kitchen. And I'm like, what is that? And she's like, it's a stain remover hack that TikTok taught me. I'm like, what are you doing? Like, but it's like the new, it's like our version of Vine I feel like and Vine was so popular and so entertaining. But I will stay on the flip side of that from like the sports world perspective. I feel like it's a really great way to like grow a following and get exposure because it happens so fast on TikTok. Like you get a TikTok that goes viral and now all of a sudden it's like you kind of blow up essentially. Like, do you feel like it kind of happened really fast how you blew up and how people were like all over these videos? Because I feel, I was watching through your stuff and I was like, oh my gosh, the views and the interactions that these get. I mean, people really love them. Do you feel like it happened super quick? Yeah, you know, I think TikTok has figured out a way and I'm, everybody's trying to figure out the algorithm and how, you know, if you do this hashtag, this is whatever. I don't think, I don't know, I figured it out, obviously, but I think it does a really good job of tailoring your videos to the people that want to see them because all, I mean, everybody's experienced it, I'm sure, but you say, you know, or you like not necessarily say, but you like a certain video about like a food recipe, you start seeing a bunch of those videos. So I think TikTok does a great job of pushing it all out. But I do, I mean, it does feel like it happened super quickly. I just, I posted today, actually, one of my most recent videos hit 2 million views and I literally posted it. Then I think it was Monday night and it's now Wednesday. And I'm not including you guys, I looked it, I posted it because I just thought, oh, I, you know, it wasn't my weekly video, it was just kind of a fun one to a TikTok sound. And I posted it, I think I went and watched the game or whatever, I got back on at night and it was up to 40,000 likes. So it just happens like that on TikTok. That blows me away because I see on Twitter, like I try to really get it out there on Twitter and I try to interact with my followers on Twitter. TikTok is just, it's just a whirlwind. I just, it's crazy. So it's super fun. I mean, it's, and it is a great way to connect to people because people comment and then they comment on those comments and like I'll watch a video and I jump right to the comments. So I love, I love the interaction on social media. And I think that's what keeps me kind of motivated to keep doing these videos because I love the people I've connected with so far. Even in our industry, like you guys, I wouldn't have, you know who would have known how this would have happened had it not been this way. So, absolutely. And I think COVID kind of pushed everybody even more so onto social media and their phones. And one thing that Liv and I have expressed to each other when we've been talking is just how different even from going to school the broadcast journalism world that we learned is so different than it is now. And in the next couple of months it'll be different than it was, you know these past three months it just is changing consistently. So keeping up with those trends but do you kind of feel that maybe this was a what you're doing now is a different path than what you would have done had you not, let's say blowing up on TikTok do you think you would have went that traditional route or do you think that you really enjoy having the creative freedom to make these videos? Yeah, that's a great question. So when I was in local news from my blood, my bosses like I cannot stand up to things about them. They've both been in the industry for 30 plus years great guys. And then I had a couple, you know people I looked up to in the industry I was able to talk with Tracy Wolfson one time. She had a speech in Green Appeds which is right from originally and I remember asking her, you know my boss has said, this is the way that everybody does it. You go through the local news route you go live in like Bozeman, Montana working covering Buffalo. And then all of a sudden you're, you know hopefully Eddie is pan. And I've seen it. I mean, I've seen it happen in red books but that's how everybody did it. But I first of all hated that idea. I've been in Bozeman, Montana and I got a job offer there and I looked up a video you guys. It was some female had done a vlog of Montana. And the first thing she said is it was like the dress code there whatever you can aware of. And then she worked in local news and she said, we'll get rid of all of your impractical clothes like heels and night shirts and like that is all that I own. I have a lot of t-shirts now which was really nice. But yeah, so it just was not it wasn't when I was looking forward to but I knew you had to put in the time. When I worked in local news I worked 20 hour days when it was Michigan, Michigan State Games. I mean you drive an hour and a half or two and a half hours to Ann Arbor cover the game, cover the presser, wrap it, do a pack, bring all your equipment by yourself it was a one man band and then you drive back an hour and a half and catalog all your stuff and everything like that. So it was a lot of time and I see how people can just die in this TV industry because it's so tough on you. But I knew, I mean I always had that goal I knew where I wanted to go. Never would I have ever thought that I would be a content creator or that I mean I love the idea but I didn't think that was a way to get where I wanted to go. And now, and I tell it when I've spoken to a couple of classes before too and I tell everybody this and like you bring something different to the table than nobody else does. So figure out what that is and really it could be maybe you don't really realize how to use it yet but it's so different than anybody else and really focus on that and then make that your career goal. Like keep your end result which is fine you know have that in the far like the distance wherever you want to be but really think about maybe creating something different and it's super scary because if it had like I think Aaron said that if it took COVID for me to really get out of my comfort zone and realize there's gotta be another way to get there because the goal boy isn't here for anybody. So it was a really, it was wild to me and I would love to write a book about it someday or you know some down the line hopefully help other people kind of maybe see that it is super scary but there are other ways to get to where you want to go. Maybe ways that people haven't even thought of yet. I'm really glad you brought that up because I think there's, I don't know how, I know Aaron's a couple years older than me. I'm 23 so I graduated college in 2020 so I'm relatively, I get called young I don't feel that way but I get called young whenever I'm like- You're an old soul though. I'm a very old soul. I would rather have the old people than I would if you were my own age. That's how I've always been but I, you know I graduated very recently and I have a lot of people that message me a lot of females specifically that message me you know they're graduating college soon and they really want to get in the industry or they really want to get into sports betting and that is something that I have said to them so many times is you have to be different. Like you have to bring something that nobody else does and I think, and this is not a knock on anyone but I see a lot of people that graduate and join the space and create videos just like somebody else you know. You can tell who they admire or who their role model is because their videos almost feel like copycat versions and again that's also how you grow and learn and I'll be the first to say when I first joined the space you know I would rely on the people like Minty Betts like Ariel Epstein like Kelly and Vegas you watch their stuff and you try to learn and so it makes sense but if you aren't different no one's gonna watch yours if they've already been watching somebody else's that's just like that and so I've said that to them so many times I spoke to a class at LSU and I also just have people you know graduating from my alma mater and messaging me I think that's a really important thing for people to remember is if your video looks just like somebody else's and that person's been in the industry for two, three, five years no one's watching your stuff you've just gotta figure out what makes you different and I think that's why I love your content is because nobody's doing anything like it you know and I think that's why you blew up the way that you did is because people were like, oh this is refreshing like you don't get to see this you know because it was so different people really, really liked that so it's like you gotta figure out what you're good at number one but number two like how can you stand out how can you be different from everybody else and it's not easy I don't think people realize that being creative or having a job of brain power it's a lot of brain power and I think it's easy too for people to from the outside look in and say oh your job is so fun and yes it is we are so lucky to do what we do which is talking sports and making content but I don't think they realize the behind the scenes of every video that goes out there that is so enjoyable to watch it's a lot of work so you know all power to you I don't know if I could switch outfits the way you do I can't, I struggle to put one outfit on during the day so I'm going to- The video is my hair is like oh and I just don't even know how long will it actually take you from start to finish to film one of those videos that's a great question so now I kinda got a system down which is great I moved to Chicago so I have a space now and I'm like this is great so I watch the games all day Sunday and try to take notes and then I have a band for Valley Sports I do a show at night with Serena Rallis so we get on and we watch the games yeah so that's great and then I kind of summarize everything that night I just get everything in my head let it marinate a little bit and then Monday morning I wake up and I kinda go through everything I go through Twitter like oh my gosh for an hour maybe two hours just looking through what people have been talking about I go to fan bases and make sure the jokes that I think I'm gonna make line up with what they're feeling because I wanna make sure I'm speaking for the fans so that's a process so from Sunday through Monday and usually I finish shooting the video hopefully like four or five o'clock on Monday so all day Monday is kinda spent getting everything ready making sure it's all lined up edited, everything like that so it's a process it's a process that's something people don't realize even if it's a short clip the amount of knowledge the same thing goes with betting I know Liv brought this up of emulating people actually taking two years to understand the betting industry taking that time it helps you out in the long run and I mean the videos just keep getting better and better, funnier and funnier more people related to them so love that they're blowing up but one thing we wanted to play with you is this little game called This or That just to kind of get to know you even more and have our audience get to know you even more so I'll start off with one these are all sports related would you rather watch the games at a bar or be at the tailgate watching the game? Ooh, that's a great one probably tailgate I really like throwing football like I'm going all out of the tailgate I love that atmosphere I love bars, no can be wrong but I love being out at tailgates and I don't really get the chance to now I think because of work so right, well okay so I have a funny little con so I have a phobia and my phobia is throw up okay so you have to remember I was a TCU showgirl so I was on the dance team so I never tailgated because I was always on the field with the band before the game whatever so I never got to experience a true college tailgate and plus TCU is a small private Texas Christian university so people aren't really tailgating as hard as they would at West Virginia where my brother goes and I went and visited him and he took me to a tailgate every other person near me was throwing up on the ground and I was about to have a full I was like tensed trying to get to I could not handle and the way that everyone there was just so calm about it like they're just walking they throw up they keep walking I'm like when I throw up like I'm down it's a vibe it's a long long vibe I reached peak college status when you can just puke and then just keep going like you can rally puke and rally but all I have to say is that question all I think of when I hear tailgate now is people in the hot sun dehydrated drinking all day throwing up everywhere and I just can't do it so I had to throw it in there it was so terrifying that question would definitely be 100% a comfy chair in the bar with the AC that's where I'm at absolutely I have one for you never watch sports again or watch your least favorite team for the rest of your life and that's the only team you can watch that is a really good one I would I would watch my I mean I do all ready I watch the Lions every Sunday you guys that is the equivalent of watching paint dry sorry sorry goff you don't want no need to apologize because didn't the head coach of the Lions just come at post game last game he was like goff is not doing his job and I was like oh oh my god if your own coach is saying that like you have a big problem at your people are saying that about him though when he was at the Rams they were kept saying that over and over and some people agreed some people didn't but now we're seeing it firsthand it's like a divorce it's like two people got divorced and now they're they're meeting for the first time and one of them looks like they've gained 50 pounds and throw football and it's Jared Goff and the other one's like a VS model and the other real good can I be a swimmer? all right three three other ones this is a good one would you rather be the star on a bad team or an average player on an elite team oh so you'd be the best person on a bad team or average I feel like this oh I feel like I've talked about this before I think I'd rather be I think I'd rather be on an I'd be a good player on an average team because hopefully I can bring up everybody else like hopefully yeah there you go we got worth it for team to get there and on average I don't know what I can bring to the table that reminds me of like Bradley Biel he's so good and then the wizards can't help him out so but you know what I agree with Biel it kind of seems like with Biel like he wants to be there and it's like the weirdest thing to me it comes to my mind and maybe he's got that same mindset where he's like I'd rather be the star on a bad team than be you know swallowed up no he was dropping like 50 points last 50 point games last season was like this isn't good enough I'm like oh God what more who's man do he's an animal okay I have another one for you would you rather win the world series or win the Super Bowl win the Super Bowl I figured that was gonna be your answer I love the world I do I love my dad I played baseball actually played for the Tigers for three or four years and I played softball love baseball but Super Bowl is just it's next level yes it is it really is Aaron you have one more right no I actually don't I thought I had one more but you wrapped it up on the four well Super Bowl that is the way to there we go that is the way to air so speaking of Super Bowl I guess this is kind of a futures question and I know you don't I don't think you do a ton of sports betting but just from a watching perspective which teams are on your right I know it's early it's only week seven but which teams do you see enough potential in to potentially be in the Super Bowl come February gotta go Cardinals Cardinals is probably my number I mean obviously they're 6-0 but what I mean they are such a fun team to watch and so fun when that whole thing happened I thought dear God they're doing it like they want this team to be the team Carla Murray oh my gosh Hopkins like this is just a stellar team so um obviously we'll watch up for them I am looking at the Packers not biased we have to we never both in the Packers is where our futures bet 12-1 to be honest with you though I kind of gave up on them after they burned me in a seven leg parlay in week one it will not let this like you will not live this down you will talk about this in to the Super Bowl single was it the only one that didn't hit the Packers the only ones and the rest of them were underdogs oh that was wild yeah that was the bad part you know there's a team that you want to love and then they just let you down look at week one it's true I don't even want to talk about week one it's like it never happened to me I know and I think on week one right and with week one too it's one of those things where you kind of have to tread on what you don't know what you're going to get in week one you don't know what these teams look like what the QBs look like but I also love the Cardinals I've been hot on them since the beginning I actually sprinkled $25 for them to win their division at plus 500 so I'll walk away with 150 if they end up cashing out for me so fingers crossed that your prediction is correct and the Cardinals hang in there because I love this team they're so fun I know I just yeah it's been a good football season for everybody it has I mean being a Lions fan is tough being Eagle's fan right now is tough so I get it I know it's oh yeah I see the helmet shoot yeah and you're like ah that's cute that basically needs to be clipped off and put out for all our Eagle's fans if I'm not really but we're so happy that you got to come on everyone got to learn even more about you everyone already loves all of your content it's great keep it up we'll be tuning in and watching all of it for sure of course and you're a fan favorite Annie so thank you so much for being on and joining us and maybe closer to Super Bowl we'll bring you back on and do a little check in on here so thanks for joining I love it yes all right bye Annie it's good to get to talk to you all right all right well live episode seven in the books episode seven episode seven I'm fly when you're having fun okay before we before we get off here I got I got to check on these props man let me tell you something I know we got to check really quickly and then we'll sign off really quick and then we'll wrap the two all right Raptors are up let's go are up 72 to 45 at half to the Rockets so there you go let's see okay the bulls yeah yeah yeah there we go bulls they're up by four they're up by three oh my god one and a second left four five six I need it I need the pistons plus five the pistons are up by one wizards plus three I also tweeted moneyline accidentally I put wizards moneyline and then the plus three I was not thinking but I said plus three I didn't mean we're hating each other right now I need the but I need the bulls plus a minus five all right well they're four they're up four right now mine hopefully it's a push hopefully it's a push hopefully it's a push mine says they're up by six 76ers need to figure it out damn they're tied at half it's bad I mean it was the spread was three but still come on but yeah I had the game on right here oh bulls are covering right now or sorry excuse yeah they are sometimes I do math in my head too much I'm just like I don't even know what number and how to subtract did you ever do that absolutely my brother wait what I was talking this is actually the funny thing my brother he every time he has like a total bet or he's got a player prop the whole game he's using his calculator and oh my gosh shammy too because it makes him no doubt when it finally gets to zero like he will sit there the whole game and he's like okay 10 more points okay eight more points I'm like can you stop like you're stressing me out I'm starting with my bet when I was at Penn State they actually asked me to calculate the odds in my head if like minus one something and I was like what's 14 mine or what's 100 minus 14 everyone shout out 86 and I was like Jesus Aaron like think before you speak think hey is Memphis a state I was like yeah you're just as bad as be not knowing where Colorado was it was like I'm in Colorado I couldn't tell you where on the map Colorado was but I was like this has to be a joke right now there's no way she actually thought that was an accident Cincinnati I thought Cincinnati was a state for the longest time Cincinnati's in Ohio she found that out recently I need to I need to I need to look at that yeah you gotta get that figured out you gotta get that figured out either way NBA full swing we've got week seven oh yeah on Thursday and I wouldn't call it fun we've got a nerve-wrecking Thursday night football game happening tomorrow and we'll be back next week for episode eight yes wow episode eight almost to 10 awesome alright guys we'll see you next week thank you so much for tuning in and it was great and yeah see you next week episode eight incredible see you next week peace