 And apparently John is saying his keeps asking him to leave the webinar. If that helps. So I'm on now. I don't know if everybody can hear me. I can hear Chris. I can hear it. So I do have a little bit of concern. It asked me for a password, which I had. Does the public have the password to be able to join the meeting? Yes, it looks like we have people waiting in or that are an attendee right now. So we definitely have people on. But are they, are they attendees from the city who got the same invite that I did, which had the password listed. My concern is the agenda. If you go to the agenda packet online through. Legis star. If you click on the link that's on the agenda, it asks you for a password. Okay, give me just a second. I'm just asking the person that set it up. So give me just a second. Okay. All right. Thank you. Thanks. And just heads up or live right now. So you're aware. Thank you. I won't talk too much smack to Tom about his Raiders. Just team it up to 17 game season. Careful, Mr. Rogers. And I see the city manager wants to be promoted when we can. As you know, Tom, I'm a Cowboys fan, which means while I can talk trash, I need to. Cause it's a long season. Well, I'm, I'm just hoping Schultz becomes the number one guy. Cause I just flip flopped them. Got rid of Jarwin for a Schultz. Cause he and Dak seem to have a good relationship. I think that's a good move. I also see John as a, an attendee at the moment. So we'll promote him when we get a chance as well. I just promoted Mr. Sawyer. So he should be moving over to a panelist now. Bingo. Thank you. Let's get Jeff as well when we get a chance. John, this is why we need to make you host. We never have this problem in closed session. You never know. You never know where my talents might lie. Let's also promote Sue if we get a chance. And ever since I did the update on my phone, I just went to try to make a call and it said that I'd put it on airplane mode. Not. It's just, it has a mind of its own. And I have none of my mind to offer it. So it's, it's a, it's a challenge. I'm going to show you what, this is what my, my, my, my, um, desktop is doing right now. Can you see that? You're also live, John. Just so you know. And I, well, this is important to see my challenges that I, it's like, I don't, it just goes away all of a sudden. It's important for the community to understand the, the IT challenges that some council members face every day. They're going to heck of a job dealing with that, John, though. I have no control. Sorry, chair Rogers. We're just pulling up the agenda really fast. Yeah. I appreciate it. Thank you. I'm going to grab a note pad. Who'd be right back. All right, chair Rogers. So, um, I did take a look at the agenda. It does not look like the password, um, is listed on that. Um, but we do have staff, um, that didn't receive the password. Um, that I'm getting notifications that they were able to enter without entering in a password. Okay. So anybody from the public can join at this point. Um, I think that's what it's, um, looking like. Yes. Mayor. I am concerned that if it indicates that a password is needed and people don't know that they can just go ahead and try. Uh, we may have an issue. All right. Let's see if we can have. Let's see if we can have somebody who's unaffiliated with the group. Um, Uh, try to join the meeting and see what they're, if they're able to do so. Uh, if it prompts them for a password. Or, or if it just lets them in. I can, uh, try chair Rogers on my personal phone. If you just give me a moment. So Rachel lead who, um, Um, For one of the projects that's there and she's saying the same thing that a passcode Papa keeps coming up. Uh, so she's having issues with the public. I also got a text from the city employees and she could only get on via YouTube, not via zoom. So Sue, what should we do here? Should we cancel today, or should we cancel the meeting? Uh, yes, I'm afraid that that's, that is what I would recommend. Okay. Yeah. I want to make sure everybody can participate particularly in this discussion. So let's, let's go ahead. Uh, council members. Do you have time next Thursday, same time, four o'clock. For us to do a special meeting of the long-term finance committee. I don't. Um, I'm, I'm, I'm on for the four, leaving the afternoon of the 14th through the weekend. That's right. So this item comes to council. Is it the 26th? Yes. Okay. How about Thursday, the 21st? You're back by then, right? Are you? No, I'm actually East coast. Yep. You're gone. But I'm not going to be there on the 26th anyway. All right. We'll find a time offline. And then we'll get a special meeting noticed. Uh, that we can all, uh, Then participate in. Mayor, Julie does have my calendar. So. You can work through her. Whatever is easiest for you. Okay. And I'll include Alan and Sue and, and Jeff and we'll get it rescheduled. Uh, we'll try to do it before the 26th, Tom, especially if you're going to miss the council meeting. I think it makes sense for you to weigh in at long-term finance first. I appreciate that. Cool. All right. Well, with that, as always, if you have any questions, please send them to myself or Alan. Okay. Well, with that, we, uh, never really call the meeting to order, but we'll go ahead and, and we'll reschedule this. Thanks everybody. Thanks.