 So I will Call the main order it is 7 o'clock We have the minutes of June 18th 2019 to approve is your motion I'll move to approve the minutes of July 19th with amendment in corrections as an 18th June 9th What did I say July? June 19th with amendments and corrections as noted There's a second all second Page one One thing on page two, it's under the item number four where it talks about a motion by Jeff fairs and under discussion Just to clarify I think the sentence should read Jeff fair said in weighing business aspects and philosophy of the two Candidates and in the remainder of the sentence page three Corrections all those in favor of approving the minutes of June 18th 2019 and say aye. Aye. Aye opposed and dead of stings Time for any public comment that anyone has in the audience to make either things that are either on the agenda or not so See no hands raised we'll move on to then to the interviews and appointments to town boards and we have two candidates tonight who are Asking to be on the planning Commission, so I'd invite Gary Miller his name actually goes by G and Amy Brewer to come to the table and if you would Introduce yourselves give us an idea of Your background even though we do have your applications in front of us and why you'd like to be on the planning Commission I'm currently working at ice as a IT specialist and I will be retiring in at the end of August so I'll have plenty of time to not only work with the energy task force but Planning Commission if you so choose As it says in my background information. I didn't have had experience on planning Commission in Essex not only as a member but also as a As the chair of that group it was the old-style planning Commission where we actually heard applications to so I think that would gives a good background when you're actually trying to create rules and bylaws for the DRB to Use in deciding applications. I Guess that's a good start. If you have any questions, I'd be glad to answer My name is Amy Brewer. I Have a master's in public health Which is relevant because I work in Franklin and Grand Isle counties in building healthy communities both in tobacco control healthy eating physical activity, which I Didn't know when I got my master's degree but I spend a lot of time looking at the design of a community and knowing that the impact on the community's health and economic development and Even, you know environmental impact is huge It's a giant result of how a community is designed whether kids can walk to school whether they do whether parents let them How I move around town? And I spent a lot of time approaching planning commissions and talking to them and supporting their work And I thought perhaps it would be nice if I actually put My money where my mouth was and spent some time doing that where I live as well as where I work so huge importance of a planning commission and just Interested in adding to What will So open up to questions from the board Educational vacances BFA in our education. What is it BFA? I Shows my lack of sophistication Just an art school So I'll ask both of you Amy you talked about, you know, the strong healthy communities, you know aspect Jean you Took efforts to talk about the energy planning or the energy aspect so in both cases would you Just talk about them a little bit and maybe how or in what way you would try to foster those two I'm going to call them goals. That may not be the best word As part of the planet what you would bring in terms of those two goals to the planning Commission. I One of the things I As I go all around and look at other communities. I'm very proud of the work Williston has done to become Pedestrian and bike-friendly as well as working towards being transit And so as I've lived here for 14 years I've been able to actually see the gaps filled in so that I could get to my kiddos daycare on the foot with a stroller And not have to be in the road Which I did for a little while then the gap was filled in and so as I watch how Williston is a leader in that in the state You can then see how people then make those decisions to utilize facilities that are here and available to them and How it's designed even tap corners recently to become more welcoming for pedestrians and bikes and so as You build it people then use it and it changes how we think about and how we move around our town Which then has that energy impact is if we can get more of us walking and biking and using transit There's less congestion. I live off of to a If that traffic was down, I'd be able to turn left out of my neighborhood maybe someday But you know, so I think those two, you know, two goals are very well connected I think that you know walking and biking is just one aspect of energy, you know cars are just one aspect of energy consumption But I think it's a really important connector So as far as energy is concerned, I think that When I first joined the task force to develop the energy plan, I was I joined it partly because I'm concerned about Use the term global warming and you know what we can do as a town to Address that problem, you know, it's a big problem and bigger than our town but there are things that we can do locally that would help the situation and I think that as we were as the task force is going through this It also we were seeing that at first we talked about, you know, just thermal versus transportation what we can do in those areas, but I think the rubber really Hit the road when we started talking about the Development by-laws, okay, and I think there's a lot we can do in the development by-laws to strengthen our commitment to Use energy more efficiently and to Address the issue of energy generation make sure it fits well within the town That there are some places that are better suited for it than others and we want to make sure that aspect of our Planning is more I think the urgency there is more I mean we address that somewhat in the growth management area where we have a situation You can get 10 points for other things too and one of the things we wanted to suggest is to Give it 30 points for energy because we think of energy conservation is Should factor more into the development by-laws If I could follow up if you don't mind you both talked about sort of a positive Is there something and I guess you can choose not to answer this? Maybe there's none But is there something that maybe Williston isn't doing such a good job with either that you found in the town plan or how we've Taken the town plan and adopted ordinances if you will out of that town plan Say that again going through the Not necessarily the town plan because I'm now a morph I guess I'm more familiar with the development by-laws, but I think that I Would like to see more Compact development and I think it's addressed somewhat in the Wilson development by-laws, but making sure that for instance the agricultural rural residential district Has perhaps less density than it does now There's a situation or the line goes along Mountain View World between that district and the residential zoning district and You know perhaps moving that closer in so that we don't have another more single-family houses out there You know where there's no services for them other than you know, I mean obviously electricity and water There's out there, but do we want to you know continue that single-family development? Further out into the countryside So I think we could strengthen that a little bit I'm gonna struggle answering that question just because Good sign Wilson's doing a lot right. Well, I I feel that it is like you know I find myself talking about that, you know, I'm going around but and I'm not as familiar with the town plan And I haven't had an opportunity to work with it very often. So You know, so I don't have any Criticisms based on anything. I know I look at development and I ask questions like you know There's a lot of empty stores in Taft Corners In maple tree place and and there's more being built and so I always wonder how that happens But that may not be a criticism of how the town plan is being used. I just that's just I don't know So I don't I don't have a good answer for you and I'm sorry to say. Oh, that's perfectly fine. Thank you Other questions Unfortunately, we only have one position open at this time and so that becomes our Job to determine who's going to serve on it at least right now. So Hopefully we can do that tonight and you're welcome to stay while we deliberate and see if we can come up with a Candidate to to nominate so the floor is open for debate Before we actually get into the debate I'm going to say Sort of the obvious if you will, you know once again, we're in this situation where we have two candidates I'd be happy to a point. Yeah, I just can't so there is going to have to be a choice tonight and I wish that wasn't the case but It's the it's the reality of the situation I guess I'll start Amy I liked what you talked about in terms of the healthy communities, and I think that's a great aspect but Gene was able to First of all, I think your experience already being on a planning commission Understanding the difference between the old traditional planning commission in this plan commission Your ability to not your ability that ain't quite come out right But that connection you made between the planning commission and the plant town plan and the ordinances That come out of it is actually critical. That's that's where the rubber meets them the road And then you threw in yeah, you didn't throw in you have the energy aspect of it, which to me is Important in becoming more important all the time. So if I have to weigh the two I It's going to go in Gene's favor I agree It's not Position open right so it's it's quite okay with me Which is exactly the type of answer we like to hear I was on the planning commission and we were redoing the use tables at the time and it was awful so In other words you saying think about the recreation committee But I yeah, but please I am gonna say that G is very skilled and articulate and Seem like you've got great judgment I sit here and I listen to applicants come now. This is my first year on the board and You know, I work in education and we have what we call job shares and I can feel that Again tonight kind of mesh the two of you together That would be great because I think you're both bringing very good foresight to what you presented tonight You know, I think gee the experience kind of speaks for itself. That's not to say anything But I certainly applaud You know your your outlook on you know our town and the positives that are happening There's always work to be done and I and I hope that you know, you would come back And you know a similar capacity or something different Listen has a wealth of talent right now and we've a number years ago. We were looking for anybody to apply for Members of commissions and boards now we have two or three people for each of the positions. So by all means Stay interested So looking for a motion I'll move to a point I Gary aka jean miller to the planning commission for an unexpired four-year term through june 30th 2023 second discussion on the motion Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion say aye Congratulations to g and we look forward to seeing you again. Amy. Yes, please. So just so you know, this is my third attempt That's all right Thank you all But before we move on there's another motion that needs to be made if we wish to reappoint to the justice commission the Community justice board and that's got a digicino who we missed on the first time around because she Initially said that she was not going to be Would not ask for it be reported but changed her mind So would the chair entertain a motion? I would I'd move to a point Greta D'Agostino to the community justice board for an unexpired three-year term through june 30th second There's a discussion on the motion Hearing none all those in favor of the motion say aye. All right All right, and we'll move on to number five the vast agreement and eric. I think you're going to Lead us through This it's not much different than it has been in the past It's uh for those watching at home. It's an annual agreement that the town puts together it makes with the Wilson hillhawk snow machine club to use Public lands permit the snowmobiles on trails to cross over the town owned lands So every year the conservation commission we used to review and weigh in along with the public works department This year there really are no substantive changes from last year's agreement There's just a minor administrative change that vast have that's reflected in the beginning And that's just regarding you can buy a temporary Three day or ten day pass online now. So you just have to purchase that or a sticker. So that's the only change That's the there's a suggested motion for the board if it wishes to move forward with this again San Francisco objections Coming in they used to coming I used to that's right long over years ago. They used to So if there's no questions or comments the motion again is in order I'm I'm sorry Um, I'll move to approve the use of public land by the Williston hill hawks and the vermont association of snow travelers And to authorize the manager to sign an agreement for such use for the 2019 to 2020 season I Need the second. Is there any discussion on the motion? If you're none, I'll vote some favor the motion say hi. Hi We'll get on to the annual employee wage adjustment reconsideration. Um, so rick a few words on that sure This is uh An error we made into the staff level and it's a rounding error when we um And partly it's due we had a change over in finance directors, but in the budget we put in 2.1 percent And when we do the calculation for unions, we've always Rounded up to the nearest tenth of a percent and the Using this index of course We've been consistent and for both fire police and non-union And this year it was 2.16 percent And so if you round that it is really 2.2 percent, which is what we have to give the police and fire unions and they um when I looked to see what I recommend I looked to the budget and it said 2.1 percent And so that's what I recommended But it wasn't until we did the calculation that we found out that That was rounded the wrong way So I um Considered a withdrawal of that initial motion and then I'll follow that up with a second motion after that to Approve a 2.2 cost living increase for non-union employees So the procedure it would be uh for a motion's reconsider has to be made by somebody Who was here who voted with the majority which is everybody except ten Um And then that would bring us back to the motion that was on the floor at the time which was a 2.1 percent And then we would need a motion to amend that and then after that we had to get a motion to To approve the motion as amended So before we get started Yeah Okay, just ask a quick question. Sorry rick you have one point said we always round up Or at least that's what okay only we round the way you normally would think so it was 2.14 It would have been 2.1 percent. Yep. Okay. It was 2.15. I don't know which way that goes but 2.16 That actually was gonna be my follow-up question is what do you do when it's 0.15? And there actually is a rule to that You would round in that case to two if it was 2.05 you'd round to zero That's my understanding but anyway, we don't have to deal with that After taking our issue this year. Yeah, clearly Round up situation back to the rules of rounding decimals this evening. Oh, yes You can tell what some of us jobs or applications by what we get interested in talking about So are there any other questions for rick regarding this a motion then to reconsider The actions that were taken on june 18th regarding the wage adjustment is in order I'll move to reconsider a vote taken on june 18th 2019 to approve an annual wage increase for non-union employees As a discussion on the motion If not all those in favor of the motion say aye Okay, and then the next thing we would need then is a motion to amend The motion that's on the floor to Reflect a 2.2 percent Anybody anybody can make that motion Not sure I quit Somebody else might have picked up more exactly how to word that it's just amend the motion As written in the Recommended motion I move to amend The You said the recommended motion to work with me a little bit here Right. You would you're making a motion to amend the motion that's on the floor right now And the motion that's on the floor, which what I believe was the new wording On 2.2 percent. Okay to adjust Cost of living adjustment for all non-union employees of 2.2 percent Okay Did that come out clear enough All right, sorry about that. Yes So any discussion on the motion? If not all those in favor of the motion say aye Any opposed and now the motion would be to Approve the motion as amended to adopt the motion as amended I'll move to approve the motion as amended for a cost of living adjustment for all non-union employees of 2.2 percent That's a very discussion on the motion If not all those in favor of the motion say aye. Aye. Any opposed Okay, we've gotten through who said democracy is not efficient We're moving on to approving the judicial bureau list, which is in front of us and Eric you're going to talk about that Um, or might recall we updated this last I'm gonna say Last winter at some point and then we've decided to put on the annual cycle around the turn of the fiscal year just to Make these updates more frequently The judicial bureau list First off the state judicial bureau is the by then forces any violation of a local ordinance ticketed by a town agent And this is the listing of authorized officials in town that can issue municipal tickets based on ordinance violations So they include Works zoning our police officers Fire department for fire violations So what i've done we've had a couple changes in the police department since this list was approved last time So this is just kind of an administrative housekeeping exercise This has been reflected to show our current police force and other staff that should hold these designations And Eric I probably I'm guessing I missed the meeting where this was approved or however, whatever motion we take on it before What would um, for instance bruce what type of Ticket Enforcement would he do for just out of curiosity. I'm just I'm not at all arguing. I'm just trying to make sure I understand I can answer these there's three main ordinances possibly four that he's involved with One relates to storm water One relates to water system the other relates to sewer system the fourth one That may be questionable the sewer allocation ordinance because he does have a role in that one, too I don't know if we have any enforcement mechanisms The other three certainly do okay And and deb as the town clerk treasurer she would be for instance receiving taxes or Okay It lasts a list of treasurer on here. So it's okay. Okay Okay, all right any further questions for Eric not a motion then as in order Move to approve the vermont judicial bureau designation of municipal officials Is there a second? I'll second Is there a discussion on the motion all those in favor of the motion say hi Hi, any opposed Moving on to recreation committee charge update and again Eric So we're working on a project the next few months to look at all our boards committees commissions and their charges So we've found that some of these charges haven't been updated for a number of years and in some circumstances They may not be a formal charge at all. So We're asking staff who works with these groups to bring it before them for for an edit So the first one we have here is from recreation committee and you'll notice one of the major Major edit at the top here is Reformation to be the recreation and parks committee They've reviewed this You'll see there's Changes in the red line document in front of you Staff supports the majority of this with the exception of article 4.8 And that's referring to the hiring of employees We'd ask that the board Would consider striking article 4.8 from the charge You know, we would still ask that the committee would be advising with the hiring personnel But it's one of the duties that falls under the town manager's purview. So we don't want to have any confusion there I I read the manager's report beforehand So the word assist with isn't sufficient to kind of move them out of that process if you will Yeah, we we felt it could be somewhat in okay Like this will be drawn upon to serve on an interview panel or advisory And if I could just explain maybe my line of questioning a little bit further is I can understand where they would like to see the charter At least somehow formally include them Even though even though they know that that will happen automatically So how about a different word change that might say assist with the recruitment of As opposed to assist with recruitment and hiring of They actually I think they looked at that it's my understanding and they they were considering striking the whole article to begin with Yeah, and at the last minute decided all right, maybe we can change it a little bit. So I I They don't feel like they have any role in the recruitment process at all. And so why would you put that language in there? That's my understanding and talking with Todd okay, so Did you mean that or I'm sorry should interpret that as they don't want to have a role Or they just don't have a role and they do want to have a role My understanding is they haven't had a role and they're not necessarily interested. Okay. Okay. Yeah And we've been through the process fairly recently when we hired Todd Goodwin And I did include involved members of the recreation committee in that process and it worked very well Um, so I But that doesn't mean that some future manager might Really under the charter it's the manager's responsibility Yeah, I I that part I absolutely get I guess my my point would be is if I was on something like the recreation and parks committee and We were hiring a new director I would hope we would have a a role in that process Um, and so thus I could see why they would like to have that in the in the um, the charter not charter The charge I'm just looking what others feel If they yeah, if they don't want it I I that I may have Overstated that a little bit That the recruitment part is what they Didn't feel like they had any role in that. I think they do want to participate in the The actual selection So then what this is getting to is you want it to be crystal clear what their role is in hiring and not and By deleting 4.8, it's more clear that it is the manager who makes that decision Well, you know, you're welcome to seek the input of the committee, but And frankly, I I've had not in this town, but another town I worked in I had a A bad experience And this isn't what's driving this by the way But I had a situation involving recreation committee as it turns out in another community Where I was a manager and I had the Responsibly hiring the recreation director and I included as I always do The I think it was the full recreation board And the full recreation board did the interviews along with I was participating in the process And they had a very strong Chair I think it was who Was very insistent that this one person be hired and Uh, or we had we should start the process over I didn't agree with that But I was a young manager and experienced I went along with the recommendation. Well The person didn't work out all that well And the person that I I wanted to hire is now the assistant city manager of the city of south burrowington Yeah So it it was it was funny when I ran into a meeting years many years later that I remember you Anyway, that's that's not I mean that gives you a sense a little bit of a sense of what can happen in those situations But that said I I still I've come up with different strategies of getting input from board members without putting myself in the situation where it's Their decision or mine and if I went against them I'd be going against the full board and that's not a good position to be in as manager Okay Section four itself says that the town manager retains authority over administrative matters relating to recreation and parks department How about if we changed 4.8 to instead of Assist with the recruitment. It just said informally advise In hiring That's a bit squishy. Uh, because if we said advise That would imply that there's a duty for the town manager to seek their advice kind of like the senate with cabinet appointees But if we say informally advise That's more of a guidance than it is a directive So I would say informally informally advise in the hiring Uh of part-time and full-time staff Include that and your emotion perhaps So The only issue I have with that is I I believe the part-time staff Um involves a lot of um seasonal help and For the most part it's the director Or self that is totally involved in that process The manager is not necessary although I could be if I want to delegate that So there's a So assist or informally advise in the hiring of full-time staff Or do we want to limit it to the director? Yeah, we only have one full-time staff right now But good change, but yeah, that well, I hope it will. Yeah, that's probably will change in our future. Yeah, um We're crafting I say So I have a informally advise in the hiring of the department's director or the director of the department Well that change if we have more additions later on rather than Or is that encompass that it would it would only be the director's position that they would be informally advised on Lower lower tier positions their their advice would not necessarily be sought Okay, I'm good with that So, uh, I would move yes, uh to adopt the amended recreation committee charge change with Subsection 4.8 amended as follows Informally advise in the hiring of the department's director Sir discussion on the motion hearing none. I was in favor of the motion say hi. Hi. How you opposed? Moving on to then the community justice Uh board bylaw amendment that eric. I think we're on that one too I'm on this the same lines as we just looked at the now the recreation and parks committee the community justice board So they have a charge and they have bylaws and this started out with some I'll focus on issue area too briefly of my memo just some miscellaneous updates Up these documents a bit and the most prevalent there is removing references to the administrative circle of support and accountability cosa The town no longer participates in that program. So you'll see in the red line documents. We we've removed that to to update these documents And then we had a meeting with a christalie last month and we're speaking about administrative processes Her board is up to 30 members on the community justice board And we're thinking about You know, maybe there's an option to think of on a policy level some administrative efficiency So they bring us for the board to consider tonight Of those 30 members typically 10 of those are filled by volunteers serving on the youth panel And these panelists are age 17 to 25 years old And we're fortunate to have a number of young adult capacity But we've noticed over the years those can tend to turn over the Life events that come up high school graduation going to college starting work Um so so the idea for the board that can serve tonight is to think about Having the center director in this case christalie appoint folks who would serve on the youth panel as opposed to them coming at interview before the select board This would be a change We don't do that any other boards, but this one is a larger one So we're trying to think through what may be most efficient to consider this in the circumstance Also thinking so the board still has um gets to know these volunteers Having a means for them to come before the board maybe once a year to update about what they're doing Why they got involved with the gang out of volunteer work and we would include in the manager's report any appointments So the flip side of that is reviewing these documents want to be consistent thinking about if there's an issue and Someone would need to be removed from the board So right now the select board has that authority for any town volunteer to Be formally removed from a board after following a process And you can see in the bylaw document There's a well prescribed process if there was an issue with a justice board volunteer it starts with a a restorative process and then Some time to work on that and then if there's a filing issue The police chief would recommend they're removed by the select board So so kind of the other pieces to consider is would the board also want the center director to have the final Authority to remove someone from the youth panel or would the select board want that authority? Part of it thinking that the select board may not be appointing these people But would they have the authority to remove people? So it's a it's a policy question for the board to think about tonight This is gone. We took this to the community justice board of course. We brought it to them They're in support of it Sleeves to the board tonight to see where the direction you like to go in First we'll be just a comment of If we agree to the change where the youth Panel is appointed by the director, then I think removal should be by the director I'm not there yet with the youth panel should be appointed by the director and let me just explain I see I mean, I'm not against it. I don't get me wrong, but I see value in The rest, you know, there's a fair amount of responsibility with that with that position the youth that are taking that on to their credit Are willing to take on that responsibility and I think that step of coming before the select board helps to kind of reinforce that and is Not that maybe it's the world's strongest Experience for them, but it is an experience It is I see value to that process and what they get out of the commitment That they are making to be on it. So That's my hesitation here The youth panel members would serve at the pleasure of the center director There's We've looked at it throughout the year with with 30 board members to manage There can be people wanting to take a leave people that start out on the youth panel They're not able to continue maybe six months in She wants to maintain that membership with other people. They generally have a wait list for these positions So then it becomes an administrative piece of trying to align schedules to get them to the select board meeting Trying to think of some way to maybe move that along a little quicker if possible but You know, it's um christly's fine. Fine either way. We're Just trying to think of different strategies to explore here Cause to feel like the youth panel members should be removed Is there a real world experience that that happened or wanted to be at or should have Pointed in a timely fashion didn't get it removed. Yeah, I looked up the removal piece just to see the language didn't seem consistent So just an issue to to consider kind of both sides of the equation, I guess other comments I think I think I agree with Jeff as well as having them come before the select board even though there's pretty much pro forma to At least give us the opportunity to question them on that So if we wish to approve this night, we would have to amend the motion to strike the The words regarding the how they're appointed and how they're Removed And we have to wait for a revision to come to us at the next meeting a revised charge That wouldn't be a problem because we're meeting in two weeks. Uh, we can strike. Yes I think we can get this done Okay, let's I don't know the proper phrase but table it that's proper. That's my right. Yes The motion the table is in order and so we have a motion and zero second the table second That's a non-degradable question. So all those in favor of the motion say aye. Thanks. Aye So we're moving on to manager's report I don't have much of a verbal report to add to what I've already provided in writing It's the only item I wanted to touch upon is the Recognize that we've had our library director Marnie Fisk who has Served as the director of libraries for the past 14 years has Turned into resignation. She has accepted the job for the city of key new hampshire public library, which has a much much larger staff And There's a major advancement for her. I know she Enjoyed her job here and very choosy in looking for positions and One of the things I kind of heartens back to the discussion we had on the recreation director selection process This is complicated far more than that because Well, let me say that before I get into the complication The process that we used to select Marnie Fisk last time worked well involved The process that was initiated and managed by a manager, but involving the library trustees And We had no problem reaching a consensus as to who to hire and obviously the hire we chose worked out quite well and I've already talked and met with the The chair of the library trustees and I'm going to be meeting with the trustees Next week to talk about the process and my anticipation is we will follow a similar process and hopefully have a similar result That being said for future consideration the town may want to look at a possible charter change Because the charterism has conflicting provisions on this very issue Under the manager responsibility and authority it talks about the manager's authority of hiring All full-time employees which the library director certainly is one of the town There's also a section in the town charter talks about the library trustees and the Provision and charter says and the trustees have the authority provided for under state statute You get a state statute and it says the library trustees have the responsibility for hiring the library director So I don't anticipate any problems that we didn't have it before we won't have it this time I don't believe but it's an issue that the board may want to consider in the future and something I envision Perhaps a change that might I might probably talk to the trustees about this as well Invision change that would have the manager hiring with consent, which is a stronger than the informal provision but Someone has to be ultimately Responsible for making a decision and right now it's it's not all that clear Something to consider for the future in any case But the process has gotten started the advertisements are out and with a soft deadline at the end of july And we'll go from there and we I forget when I hope to have someone on board. I think it's right around november 1st Marty fisk has agreed to help put the budget together for next fiscal year She will be finishing up the early august And we've already made arrangements for staffing to backfill some of the time We won't be able to cover her position 100 percent, but we have a enable assistant library director who's been with the town I've lost track. I mean it's probably over 30 years As a part-time assistant and she's going to obviously have to increase her hours and we have other positions that We have one person that has been working As a temporary fill-in who will be able to continue working some hours and then we'll have to backfill some additional hours with some of the other People and of course the volunteers for the library are a tremendous help as well So our hope is that we'll be able to continue providing services As we have in the past without any major disruptions We're going to miss one Also an confident we'll get somebody different but equal in many ways That's all I had on there my verbal report Can you give us an update on the stormwater coordinator position and whether or not? Oh sure we have Well five applicants the deadline is coming on Which isn't a lot The good news is those there I think there's Three in there that are very well qualified. And so we're setting up interviews As a fact actually might do the first round later this week. Yeah, maybe thursday or friday bruce and hirgana Sort out times for that the next day or so We'll see how that all works out You know if none of them turn out Um something we want we'll I won't hesitate to start over We advertise Any further questions for rick? Uh other business we I think we believe we have a couple of catering permits First is an event scheduled for august 3rd. It's a catering permit And it's uh at Mike ishams barn. It's for a wedding And it's being catered by 802 cocktails llc And staff has no objections Questions for rick, hadn't that? Motions in order A discussion of the motion All those in favor of the motion say aye. Aye. Any opposed? And next next one I have is also a catering permit for august 10th At the same location The caterer in this case is wood belly pizza And staff has no objections. It's also letting Questions for rick, hadn't that? A motion And a discussion of the motion Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Anything else? Yes, I have when it's not a I'm not asking for board approval tonight. It's a special event permit And when I say special the state special event permit which means to say it comes out of the liquor control Uh, it's for an event scheduled for the end of august The problem with this one is as I began to investigate it. I found that it's more than just a short level Tasting or something. It's apparently a music festival I'm not Presumably a smaller scale than what you and I might imagine But it raises all kinds of red flags And the town actually has, believe it or not, a public festival ordinance that was adopted in 1974 I don't know if it's ever been used You might imagine why it was adopted back then But in any case, um It has a lot of good provisions in it and things issues to consider some of it But in any case, um, I I've reached out to the owner of the property And suggest we have a meeting and it very well may be that we can work out A number of the issues And and come back to the board for approval on this It's um It's a it's a thread barn which has a bunch of weddings So the owner was saying well, how is this any different for a wedding? Well, there are some potential differences here and um That's what we have to work through And it may be that the public festival ordinance doesn't apply Because one of the key provisions is it has to be for 16 or more hours And um as it stands now And I don't have all the information but the event I believe will last longer than 16 hours so, um You know if you know one option might be that for them to shorten up their event in which case Then it would be the noise ordinance that we'd be more concerned about rather than public festivals There will still be some things some various issues that We'd have to work out, but it's something we could work out my question or my point is And first of all bringing this to your attention, but also Most likely if this we can work out the details This may require a special select board meeting because right now, um, it won't be ready for july 23rd And so it I mean there's an outside chance it could be but if they drop all their A lot of their plans and really scale it back then it may not be an issue But assuming they it we need more time to work it out the next Select board meeting after the 23rd is august 20th, which is just nowhere near enough time for them to You know get approval on this so As soon as I have feel like we have our proposal to take to the board on this I'll get in touch and see if we get a special meeting and it'll be just a little item that's your problem My interest Afterwards if you want I give you some more detail Because there's a Is there any other business anybody has tonight, all right We're adjourned. Thank you all