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We'll meet again. I think Mike thinks he's coming for therapy, I have it done. Mike, another defeat, Everton's fourth defeat in the last five Premier League games which doesn't make for good reading, does it? I suppose three of the last four Evertonians would have expected much, much better. The weekend was probably a little bit more of a free hit if there is any, but still a defeat and it's still it doesn't it? Yeah, I think what you said there, obviously in isolation the game, the performance is not too bad. I'm a big improvement on what we'd seen previously but it wasn't hard was it? The starting position to improve on. We had a bit of fight, a bit of battle but that's the minimum expectation. I would have out of any Everton team. So yeah, it was an improvement result still unfortunately not going our way but it's the ones before that have really... That's the pressure. The team at the weekend was one big surprise. We're led to believe that there was a bug going through the team. There was no Bernard. A woe we apparently were suffering the most suffering. I mean that must be hard. I think there is a bug going round. Anytime it's one season changes to another there always seems to be a bug. And if you get into a football club, even though football is highly tuned, if you get into the death room then you're going to be in for a struggle. And that's not just the players that suppose you were sick. It's everyone and I'm not making excuses by the way. That'll be come clear. You know what it's like with people are sick. They knock on the energy levels and they're always there at least. But seeing Theo Wolcott in the team was massively surprising. And I can't think it could be for any other reason that players were sick because he hasn't really done anything to warrant a start. When he's coming off the bench he's done nothing. The rest of the team pretty much picked itself in it. We knew Dom was going to start after the Sheffield Wednesday performance. And there wasn't really anyone else. In terms of changes. You see a team, when you're in a bit of a rut you see a team, you just go whatever. You're not sitting there going oh well he should be just like whatever. And that's the main thing isn't it? The performances, when you just say Villa Bonaf and obviously Sheffield United, you just sit there going what the hell? And Saturday night, perfect. I like five kick-offs on a Saturday night. I think they're good, especially this time of year when you get the floodlights and everything. I think that helped, evidently helped the fans, maybe a couple more beers in the concourses for the fans or in the Winslow or whatever. Ultimately it was just one of those games where the quality of the Premier League champions has been too much for us. Much improved. The game started, they got on the ball and then before we knew it Welcott was stretched off. It was bad because he got it on the side of the temple. It's only been it with a ball. It's been it with a ball at pace on the side of the temple which is very dangerous. Obviously when you're not having a good time, like Welcott isn't, stuff like this is mad. So having had to be forced into a change, Alex of Obie come on and you could see that he wasn't up to his normal. He's been quite good really since we've signed him. I thought he was alright but there was a time when he just looked like he couldn't run, looked like his legs were gone. But he was on it immediately when he did a brilliant prompting and proven for a fantastic ball into Marys. He hit the bar within about two minutes, gonddo on, I don't know if he missed to be honest. But they showed their quality immediately didn't they? Yeah they imposed the same themselves on the game in a straight away which obviously without laying up that we had as well. We were so expecting us to sit in. But I think when you're sitting in and you're inviting teams on you can't really condense the space. I thought we made it a little bit easier still for them, early doors. The Welcott won the irony was it's one of the few times someone's actually gone out to close a cross town because we normally just let them fire them into the box so they played to them at least going out. I think part of why he was in potentially was the work rate side of it. Because everyone else had the shit. And that as well. To be fair when a Welby come on you could see why as well obviously. The manager did come out and said there was a tactical reason but obviously we won't know. There was a tactical reason for Welcott being in the team. We won't know and I don't know what that tactical reason would be. First 20 minutes I barely watched the game. I mean I don't mean that like I wasn't watching the game. But you know when you just... You just mind... You just mind just this because you're just watching countless attacks by the opposition or countless possession. And I wouldn't say that was Everton's fault or such. You're playing against a team that. Man says he'd do this. When they have defeats it like switches them on. And when they got beaten at Norwich it like completely switched them on they go on beat Wofford 8-0. Shacked out 3-0. Threston with like embryos playing centre back 4. Do you know what I mean? They had like 218 years old playing centre back 4. So very switched on. You can see that. When Pep has to like crack the whip it's just... And you could see that from the start. It was like get this game. It was like two seasons ago. Was it two seasons ago? Yeah. When we had Aledys and it was like you could see them get this game finished by our time. We don't want any complications here. Get this game finished. And you could see that. And obviously they took the lead. The brain's ball was just ridiculous. Although Michael Keane and James Coleman. I don't know what they're doing. I mean no. And I don't mean that in like I don't know what are you doing. I mean I don't know what they're doing. I don't know why they're that deep. I don't know what. And it must be really hard. That ball comes from nowhere. It's sublime. I don't know if it's looking at that pass. Nobody. Only the brain sees that. And then that's both going behind. Just sort of going behind and then not necessarily coming on. Keep coming on. Just sort of a couple of people looked at it and I meant we can have a go here. And we did. I mean and you know and we went too bad after that. It's probably the nicest thing I can say. I spent the first 20 minutes just watching how you play against the team. That is sitting so deep. Having watched us try to do it the week before. And what they do brilliantly is they move the ball quickly. And they all move with it. And the biggest difference obviously in terms of quality. Take the quality out of it for a minute. The biggest difference they have is they have so many runners. Not even Gundewan, even Rodry was on the edge of the box. When Everton do it, our team of fielders are in the deep in the centre circle. We don't commit anyone forward like against Sheffield United. Delth and Snireland basically held hands in the semi-circle. And they're off. And then there was a big space. So Sheffield United just put the low block in place. Guilfee doesn't move enough. You always want the ball to give like almost a wall pass. And we didn't do that. We're sitting play so high on you. They move fielder breaking. And Fnandi now is just unbelievable. What I thought he was bringing that was saying about sitting deep. What the isolator done from the rest of the team most of the time. And what was their interest about them was the amount of times they were prepared to go long as well. They were playing diagonals. But the way they play is incredible. And this has got to be a lesson to Everton going forward. They're full backs of wingers. It's as simple as that. And then Gundewan kept on dropping in to make a third centre back. Or would take the ball off the centre backs. And then when they're going through the middle it means that the amount of times Dean and Coleman were narrow was incredible. So that leaves all that space. And essentially they just do that with your team. They pull you in and pull you out and pull you in and pull you out. And you don't know where to go. And that creates every time they do that and then do that space. Space just gets opened up all over the pitch. And the amount of times, certainly in the first half, they were going diagonal and getting Kyle Walken in and on the other side. Getting Tchenco on the other side. And it's really difficult. You can see that with the goal he actually scored. Sheamus Coleman is so narrow. Cos he's followed his man into the box. And you can see that all game just the way they open the space. And you're right, they push them in and sit on. But that comes up. Listen, not everyone can do that. It comes from having players that. The ball is fired on them. And it's like they've already controlled it and looked up and played a pass. Where as our players it's still be wondering what. Cos it's in the training, it's in the coaching, isn't it? It's clearly drilled into them every single day. And you look at our players and you know, there's a difference in quality of course, massive quality. But you look at coaching as well and there's a difference in. And that's not digging silver in. It's looking day manager and saying they've got like the best in the world. And he just must drill and drill and drill and drill at what they do. But that's, that's for me. If you've got, listen, if you're going to be a football team, why not look at the best and say I want to be that? Why not do that? To me, the way they're fullbacks play is got to be the way. And this is no when I have a goal with Sheamus Coleman or not have a goal with Sheamus Coleman. I did me play at eightons and people give me loads of gear for Barry. Not high enough with Sheamus Coleman. Sheamus Coleman is trying a little bit harder. And we'll come on to his stats in a minute. But in trying a little bit harder, not trying a little bit harder, but working a little bit harder or whatever, to me is not the problem. The problem is that he can't play that role anymore that they played the way they played with their fullbacks with just the wingers, aren't they? And we need to bring in a right back who can do that, who can play so far ahead, but then that needs a centre midfielder. He can do the job as well. And a creative midfielder he can do the job as well. So it's not just about saying, if you play fullbacks you can play high up, it's the whole thing. They were terrific to watch. I mean their average position. I mean the camera can't see that. No, I'm just showing you how hidey I am. Their average positions are, which is just so high up the pitch. They stretch the play. You look at how the fullbacks are on the touchline when they receive the ball. They spread the game out. We didn't do that particularly because it was just like a comparison for me when that opened in 25 minutes and a lesson in how you play against a team that's trying to make it difficult for you to play. Cos we did, we almost played 4-5-1. We left Dom isolated on his own because we had to work hard with Jarlas and it was incredible in terms of his work rate. He wasn't brilliant the other way. He put a shift in. But I think he had seven tackles or eight tackles, eight ball recoveries. Six out of seven tackles. But all around our penalty area, which shows you how hidey actually were. And we had to, but they're great at just moving it, moving it. And then someone like De Bruyne will throw that ball in like he did and he scores against us every year with a header. It was there again. People telling me that he didn't have the best three players. Well, you've got a front three of my Irish, Gabriel, Kevin De Bruyne o'r Bian. The not Morgzardy, you know. And he was there as a stupid in. But you're right. Why is he in between? As our centre back and our right back. Why have none of them gone in there? It was too good a ball. I don't think the keeper could really deal with it. Cos it was in that quickly. He put the same ball in last week against Wofford after 25 seconds and he scored. And we surely have been looking at that all week. In them areas putting balls in. So why have we switched off? Cos I think they have. I think Coleman and Keane switched off. I think for me, Keane literally touched tight to Jesus. The ball comes in Jesus. Reacts to it. I don't understand why Keane doesn't. I understand. Again, obviously it's working off the training ground. That's it. One minute you're touching a strike in the next second. Keane doesn't know that ball. Keane doesn't know that ball. That's the difference, isn't it? A free added in the six-job action. That's the difference. As you said, the day we'll be working on that in training that doesn't happen by accident. That doesn't happen by accident. Listen, they're a wonderful team. They're the best Premier League team I've ever seen in terms of doing it. They're not as good as their Barcelona team because they had messy things and they had any extra. But as a Premier League model, they're absolutely fantastic and whichever way they mix it up where the David Silver plays up and out, it's all the same. I watched them large parts of the game of Preston the other night when the Embraerows were playing like you said and they were just the same. They were the same no matter what. Something you've just said there is really important about... It's all about levels, isn't it? We played Sheffield tonight last week and we should be winning those games. Sheffield tonight, the fans have said that's the worst we've played this season. The manager said that. We've just said there. City are coming at us from all different angles. They're going long, they're getting it wide, they're going through the middle. And what do we do? We just put 42 crosses in without our best header of the ball one of the best in the world. Last week. He did. That's the difference though, isn't it? There's no variation in the play. It's all the same tactic again and you're just banging your head against the wall because... It is, especially when you've done it four or five times and you've done it four or five times you build the confidence and that's where the play starts after looking to himself and the manager starts after and starts demanding more out of some of the... Let's... If you say Kevin De Bruyne is there, Shagarton, then oh my God, Shagarton might as well just retire. He might as well just retire but if that's the work rate that you've got to put into playing that position the fact that you can play that or you can give the ball and then suddenly get back into your shape because that's another thing that I think is absolutely fantastic about City is... When they haven't got the ball, watch out quickly and this was illustrated by when I said this in my video after the match was when Coleman in the second half went down the right and shrugged off stale in a couple of times and he slowed down and stale and nicked the ball and it went out for a corner and it wasn't like... he wasn't giving up on it and I've seen that so many times Maras was worked out everyone worked out for them and again that shows you that to be the best, you've got to work out Everyone would have put the levelling what the Charleson put in for us where we'd be sad But that's what's concerning though isn't it if you think weeks gone by like you say take this game away from me for a second if you're looking at like the chef United Game we've been out tactically manoeuvred by a manager he's been managing in the championship he wanted to force us out wide and guess what, we just went out wide that's the problem You're looking at it and you think City pick up the ball and they've got a multitude of options they've got out wide, they've got runners based and they can go forward obviously they can knock it back if they need to and start again which they never really have to we get the ball and like you say they keep that and they don't want to carry the ball and it's just we've got no options We did play some nice football at times though on Saturday because they let us because because they're open so we were able to sometimes exploit them and we did knock it right well and we demonstrated that we are a good football on Saturday we've got no dynamism in the middle of the park and that's a major massive issue it's a massive issue, Morgan Snidlin I thought he had a good game doing what he does which is sitting and protecting I've done anything wrong I've thought Fabian Delth was excellent doing what he does but it does nothing going that way from them so they do the job well you couldn't have said to either of those two Latin refields you haven't performed today because they've done probably what was on the stop but that doesn't necessarily mean it helps us as a team that was how I saw it no I agree and again that comes down to personnel I think we're laughing looking alright at the back and keen and meaner we're looking alright but I think the issue that people have expressed has started being in the dead and it's the simple fact is without that pace at the back we don't feel like we can push on and again looking more at last week playing snan last week is criminal absolutely criminal but it's the manager thinking I need that extra protection if you've got a centre back with pace you don't need that extra protection it does obviously matter how good they are but if you've got the pace you've got the insurance and City City showed how to play just a variation of the game and to be free you can see that with them because they've got all the plays and all the right positions they're free to play their game and they do leave it open for you and this is why we play better against teams and it's why we struggle against the lesser teams for me we're going to have to get through that problem because you can't keep saying well we're missing this player and that player and that player and we didn't buy that but you can't do that the windows shut, the players we've got you've got to work out something that works if you have to bring Hallgate in and Drockin then you've got to do it if you have to when you're playing at home against teams you should be beaten you have to play with only one holding in the field and you've got to play to a Tom Davis or if Gomez is back you've got to start asserting yourself you've got to drop segar to this is where the manager's got to start making decisions now prove if he's the right man that is isn't it let's come on to the manager in a bit we got back in the game I thought you're both right once we went behind it was almost like it's like they've done it now what we've feared they've done the one they love they've relaxed a little bit of things because they probably thought these aren't comfortable but I thought the crowd got engaged a bit then Colman went on about nine men in our half it's a couple of tackles wasn't it and we had a couple of tackles and they got a little bit up a little and me knew I was arguing with Stitt and things like that we started getting a little bit of joy we got in a couple of times and they got important boxing and then that gave you that little feeling that you know what we actually might get something you know what we can get ourselves back and Colman, I hope he's done brilliant chasing into the box, got a little sort of Coleman's chip over the keeper's beautiful and she gets to put a ball in and they don't deal with it a poor man's vision of the Browners cross but he still puts it in but that should be going in all the times Henderson does a ffadench to switch that ball in we have men in the box for the change I hope he picks the loose ball up prod Sir Otter Colman he does great and don't meant it in and at first I didn't want to celebrate too much I hope he does I hope he does they had their arms up and I was thinking why have you read it because it was going in but it was important to read it because the lad's running back would have gone for it and it may have got there but I made up that Tom edited it and I know some people were like should have let Colman have the gun and you're like what? Colman doesn't need a goal he's a defender, assists are just as good and the last strikers need to score and I was made up he followed it in and he does well you can't moan all the time he's never in the position and then you get in the position well that's true in the last two games he scored inside the six yard box where I've criticised him because he never is so I'm delighted he done the LVAR check and all but I think they knew and he was miles on strike so one-one opportunity straight after it it will be pleasure absolutely marvellous if the browner would have played it he'd have gone on about it because he didn't look clipped in he's a great run he should have just prodded the goal I thought he should have just headed it upwards I thought if he had headed it up and over the keeper the keeper wouldn't have seen it coming but I just thought when you're on the stretch you are breathing helping the goal he should have just headed it over him bit of something should have just got an attempt at the goal he tried the control and it went behind but that gave us a little bit of you know so we went in at half time we clapped off this week with shows that the fans appreciate when you have a go came out for the second half they got on top a little bit the first five or ten minutes but then I thought after that I thought we were right back in the game yeah he mean ahead then which I was saying to you Mike before off camera when I've watched it again a few times he doesn't think he's getting it two players jumping in front of him and it comes over and he just reacts it's a brilliant save but it's one of them that if things are turning your way a little bit that hit him on the side it would be like that last three Williams against Arsenal years ago when it comes in and it hits him it was a really good save but I think that gave us that boost then isn't it great to see that seeing in this game we started using that set piece all the time when you're watching you go and you see someone doing something right and they stopped doing it we're just going to continue to try the Jerry Meade they can't stop that you've absolutely right on that one he didn't see coming but it's one of them again when you look at it it gets a really good contact on it actually to the detriment of it it was in because the keeper didn't realise it was a great save reaction but if that goes three foot it's a goal and he's obviously got the other one later on and again showing that he had just said he had three attacking headers he won everyone in the box this week which was a big thing and we had a little bit of a flurry and they were getting blocks in they were prompting and probing is three king pins off the bench it's a win the game we're getting coming towards the last 25 minutes it's one one you're going within this it wasn't like we were hanging on Pickford wasn't having to make all kinds of saves that's lucky the whole game but ultimately they have a little like a lucky Raheem Staling misses a great chance but even that was lucky me and the steps how plays it it's a great ball through and he should have scored Staling for some reason people were booing but I don't know why he walked out on them said he'd left to win trophies they think the bigger than they are when someone says all that we should be loving him and he's actually brilliant and all the shiteys had to go through and he's still more marvellous footballer I think he's great and he runs like he's doing Scooby-Doo he's a toddler that's how he runs if you can't get on board with that no what though can we appreciate that and this again if we're looking for things we want to look to be the best team this is a team that plays three up front and they are three up front when people say four three three it's funny isn't it the two best teams in the league you look at the two best teams in the league both of them play two at the back with three screening and three up front and yet we're asking about with this formation that because he says he hasn't got the players no no but if we're going to no I'm going to come on I do not mind ripping into this manager but we're going to have a proper chat about Michael Silver and about tactics but you're right the way they play is brilliant but we will go back onto that which I don't think it was a free the last look for it not only did he he didn't even have to try at what point do you say are we just going to say don't even try and tackle because it could be a foul he got buffered which is just absolute nonsense he got buffered it's what I say it's difficult to argue against but you get that free kick and Mara is it there's that there's question Mara where do you meter away from the wall that I don't think they weigh they've got to be a meter away isn't it though let's just clear this they can't be in the wall they have to be a meter they have their own wall but anyway Delf I think could have done a bit better but you did say he was unsighted but it's gone to Pickford side where he is I get it I thought he'd saved it because where I'm sat I thought he'll get because as you look at it you keep us there isn't he and then it hits the net and you go well maybe he just didn't see that but when I've seen it again I think he's got to save it I'm not a goalie but I think he should save it it's not even a debate it should save it I don't know what happened four times he's done this I've got the last game of the season Ericsson free kick went where his hand was and he reacted slightly late he's done this this goalkeeper four times I think he's been beaten by free kicks on his side you set a wall up and I think I said this exactly the same thing last time you set a wall up at your wall you've put it in place that like clips it over and it goes top in your job is to protect your side and you've got no other job and yet you watch his movement he always takes the half step the other way always takes it well it's not even a half step I'm pretty sure he's leaning the wrong way and it instantly leaves them so he can't get over where is it should just stand there by the post and say beat me land cos that's all Maras ever does is take free kicks like that I can't remember too many for city that he always goes keep his side it's his little party trick and the keeper there exactly you're saying I'm good enough you've got your goalkeeper has got to be prepared to just say that's my wall if you beat it so be it you should never be beaten on your side ever and he's been beaten four times now forever so therefore the coaches have got to grab all of them and say this can't continue you need to trust your wall no one's ever going to when we're watching Luca Dean smash on the top corner no one ever goes the wall was wrong that's a magnificent free kick you've just got to hold your hands up if it's good enough to beat the wall then it's a good free kick but as soon as it goes to the side there's only one person to blame and that's the goalkeeper the thing I disagree with there is when he's starting position he actually doesn't lean, I've watched it a few times it makes it worse it bounces it goes under his hand it gets there that's why I was surprised because he was there it wasn't like he couldn't get because at first I thought maybe he just couldn't get across it's that perfect when I say it again it goes there under his hand it sounds stupid but he's obviously he's not concentrating he's not thinking I am fully invested he's not going to my right that's what I'm saying the lean is in his mind he's bending spoons he's almost thinking I'm going to go that way whereas at times some goalkeepers never used to be great at this was that they just knew just knew where the ball was going to go it's being able to predict it's being able to predict but it's also being able to react so some goalies will go never do it and it will go I've said this loads of time but I made this shape in Greg Darn's years ago Coventry in Greg Darn's put his arms up because he did the free kick and Saltwell come from nowhere and he's only reacted when the ball's being hit he hasn't guessed because with Greg Darn's he couldn't have said it he let it put his arms up because it was in Saltwell's arms come across, reacted you see keepers guessing and going well I'm going to dive this way you've got to be able to that's what those goalie drills where they're whacking things and they're reacting you've got to react but in that instance though I want to guess a little bit though I want them to know that it's only going to go one foot I know what you mean I would say I used to play a bit in goal and my lad plays in goal in that situation the first and fundamental thing is you do not get beat on that side that's it so regardless of thinking where my lad is going irrelevant I'm not getting beat there as it comes over the wall if he's going the opposite corner that's when your reaction's going to play if you get there great if you don't exactly as you just go fair play but you do not get beat there so when my lad's playing now the near post, your post you just smash the ball at your kid oh I do yes I'm angry I've got to get it out getting go bang but not even a goalie that but I said to his off camera so the first few minutes when that first cross comes across and he goes for it with his legs I mean lad's is seven said he's not at it today I mean about and you can tell some days with Pickford if he's on it he's absolutely superb if he's mentally not on it he's a carcass Why isn't he on it? when he's in a battle in a form why is he not on it? I think when he's but when he's not on it it's him thinking he's on it in as much as he thinks but he thinks I've got to do more than he has to do just do the basics the fundamentals well and let everything else happen out play out in front of you and that's where at the end when he comes out and someone's pressed Y he's got an Xbox player out again so no, no switch switch triangle to watch triangle when the gold has come off to be honest do you want to play children's games? do you play children's games? you play grown-up badly but you play pens you play pens like now silverman is in heaven it's good at that way it's good at that way it brought it brought jaffa cake mini rolls it went in we all went okay little bit of a flat feeling because I don't think though that they could make a great case for being 2-1 up but at that stage I really don't I think the game was swinging either way we weren't hanging on at all they had a lot of the ball I think at that stage it was probably. It was lucky, it was 20 minutes ago, it was 1-1, a we made changes there. We get a chance almost to the lead. Can I just say one thing? I felt a little bit for Silver Day because he was trying to being keen on it 1-1 and it looked like he brought some on the reactor but he didn't. He was trying to bring it on, he was saying it, I'm the first to have my mouth on Silver but he was trying to bring it on so I just wanted to clear up. Would have been a proactive show. Felly, rydyn ni'n gweithio'n gwneud arall, ynddo i'w plasthaf yn fydden nhw. Rwy'n ei garaeth i fynd, rydyn ni'n fydda i'r ffilm yn gweithio'r ffwbl. Rydyn ni'n bwysig wedi'u gwneud i Alason a'r hyn yn ei wneud i'r llef. Felly, rydyn ni'n rhaid i'r bwysig yn bwysig. Rydyn ni'n bwysig a'r bwysig a'r bwysig a'r bwysig a'r bwysig. Ac hefyd erbyn hyn yn bod chi'n pierdoli wedi allu'r gynhyrchu. Roedd yma hwn yn llawer o'r gweithio'r ffordd. Ac hefyd nesaf mae'r ystafell dros ydych chi. Ond ydych chi'n ddechrau i gynnig i gyd yr arfer. A rhai hynny, mae hwn yn ddoch chi eich arfer a llai y gallu, a rhaid i gynnig i gynnig a chesio. Cyn dod o'r ffordd i'r ffordd i gynnig i gynnig i gynnig i gynnig i gynnig. Ac yr yw'r arddangod yr arddangod yr olygu gyda chi, Es contribution is the keeper. Where I'm sitting over bwllwngs. Hoping it's going to drop in to the net. It drops wide. That's a massive moment for us. He's got a score there. He's got a score. He said his goal has made us mind up. He's committed, everything is done. Is he not that type of player? Is his mine calm enough for me? He goes with the wrong foot. I gollwm las i'r shane thing. I gollwch y fiadol i'r ffodd. Rwy'n fawr i ison, i'r fawr i ison. Yr hyn o'r rhaid i ddweud hynny, roeddwn i'n ymwybod nhw'n cael fath i lŵn. Rydw i ddweud hynny yn ymwysg ymwysg ymwysg ymwysg ymwysg ymwysg ymwysg ymwysg ymwysg ymwysg ymwysg ymwysg ymwysg. It's the argument he is. We need to buy a centre forward who's guaranteed, gives his guaranteed goals. That's the argument. I don't see where you can... We've had this so many times. I don't know where you can argue. About a player when there are no other players. Mwys cynti eich mwy does not look anywhere near ready. It doesn't look ready. He's good to come off the bend. He's damn good at that. He will score all day. But it doesn't look any where near ready to play on its own in the front. Felly mae'n fawr o'n rhan o'ch gwybod, ond rydw i'n ddond o'ch gweithio am yn ymdill o'r cyflwyno'r gwaith, fel y cyfrifio arnynt o'r opiwn ar y drafod, Shank Toshon yn deall i'r gael o'r gweithio, mae'n rhan o'n ddod o'r bynnag yn ymdill o'r cyfrifio. Mae'n gweithio o'ch gwaith o'r gweithio, rwy'n ei eiflo'n gweithio, rydw i'n gweithio. Mae'n ddond o'r opiwn i fynd o'r cyfrifio o'r gweithio, ..a top-class centre for it. That really is the only option. Someone who guarantees you gold. Who I don't know. The thing is, he should have scored. In the story. It doesn't matter whether he's going to get there. He's not going to get there. He's the right man. He's the wrong man. He's got it all his hand. I actually thought he was brilliant. He worked hard. He gave them something to think about. We didn't use him enough, I don't think. It should be fair if there's a criticism. I haven't used him enough. But it's still not going to stop me saying it was a sit-up. Because he should have scored it. Regardless of whether his ability is 1 out of 10, or 10 out of 10, it was a chance. It was a big moment. Edison makes the save. Goes out for a corner. Corner comes in. It's a brilliant save by Edison. It's right in the corner. And then comes out to Dom. He can't unfortunately have a blame. Because it comes in so quick. He's it behind. He's going to go glass half full. At least Dom was following it in. He's looking at him. He has progressed over the course of the last few months. The thing about all he had to do, he come on big time last season. And in this season, the challenge for him now is to do what he did with the first goal. Getting in the sixth year box. He's missed a great chance. He's missed chances at 12 Athens. After the game, he clips that in, it's 2-2. 10-15 minutes left. Who knows what happens ever. The crowd are bouncing. We've come behind there thinking, they've come at us again in school. You don't know what happens. But he has improved. If he keeps getting into those areas, he will get more goals. It's as simple as that. You want him to be a penalty box centre for him. A four in his last three, he can't argue with that. No one can say he doesn't deserve to play because he does. Playing him up. If we're playing the way we are, it won't help him. If we change to a 4-3-3, like you said, then it will help him. And then thread the ball through to him. He'll be massive and will score goals. But if we're just going to play with two defensive midfiel players, then it's not going to help him. And actually he's done okay on the right, to be honest. He was running at them. He was causing them an issue. You want to get him closer to the goal. It's not good having two lads who might put the ball in the net. You've got to get them round them. But it didn't go in. Medicine's made the brilliant save. And then they break again and they get a third goal. Which, again, is a bit strange the way Pickford chooses to save it. Goes with his feet. No, I don't know. He might have just had to make that. I think there's more to do with the fact that Maraz just walked through his foot. Maraz dropped the shoulder and Kane and Dane fall on their ass. I'm not a fan of them now, are you? Yeah, it was ridiculous by the two. It's great that Maraz decides to have his best every game. Oh, we won't play like that again. We made it easy though. Let's keep pushing him in on his left. He was good, but we should have pushed him up onto his right foot and he didn't reach the front. It was strange, but I agree. At that point though, we were throwing caution to the wind. We were looking for the equaliser. And they got it because they're a great team. They're a great team and they can score goals for fun. But again, you know, you do look at it. But again, that's fractions, isn't it? The balls. But again, I know what I mean a little bit is that when Kane came on, he's got chalk on his boots and you're like, why didn't we have Kane, Dom, really, really close to each other and he was on the left at that point. Charlotte, Charlotte. Why weren't those three of them really now? By the way, that is position. Do you think? I think it's best. He cuts in and he's got the vision and he picks out some of the passes. I think it's a good weapon. We need Bernard out there for me. That's the issue. I think that three could work. But the three could work. And I think you could interchange and, you know, Kane would be good over that side cutting. But I just think, if you're going on, you mentioned it before, we didn't say it on you, but the one that's not doing a dom just flicks you around for a wobies running on. That's what, that's the tactic we should have been using. They'll last 20 minutes. Even, and definitely when it went to one, right? And say, let's start knocking it and you run on. Make them have to think about something different because now you're worried about them going wide. But it's about making them worry. If you play, and we'll go on to this in a minute, if you play your three men right up front, they can't commit men forward. They can if they want to. If they want to put their men forward and leave 3v2 at the back for us, so be it. Let them. They won't. You'll make sure it's 4v3. But let's see. It's scored the goal and the way evidence luck is at the moment, when it's the bar and goes in, it could have hit the bar and come out because pick for them makes a save when it comes back. But it goes in, you know, and city, that's what the brilliance are at. And once you went, once you went three, when it was done, you played the time out, and they're a fantastic side and you have to say that. But, you know, let's talk about the... Let's talk about Coleman's numbers. 66 touches, one assist, 28 successful passes, successful forward, passes 12, you know, much improved from him. Successful attack in third, passes 7, 85% pass. Accuracy. Successful dribbles are good until you see where they are. 7 out of 8, we're in our half. Joe was really doing this. Joe, keep maps. Keep maps. No, to be fair, Sheamus Coleman had a better game. Yeah, he did. But again, it's not because of him, as such, but we've got to start having the fullbacks playing a lot higher up, and I just don't think Sheamus Coleman can do that anymore. But if you're going to play with a real 4-3-3, you can't have your forwards playing as your wise men. Your fullbacks have to play as your wise men. And it's as simple as that. And you have to be able to do the job with him, get up and down, and if you can't, then I'm afraid they're not ready, they're not any use for the modern game to play in the top 6. Your fullbacks now have to be plays you can play up all day. And I think that was the problem with Dean on this game. If he was ill and he wasn't able to get forward enough, you've got to have it so your front 3 are like cities where you can come in and out and don't have to worry about the wise men. So as much as Sheamus has played well and he's assisted the goal and all the rest of it, you've got to have a right back now and get up and down, and that's got to be the next area for Evan. So it's great that he's improved, great that he's had a good game, but it doesn't necessarily help the way we want to play. I think he had a good game because of the way we were playing. Because we were sat deeper, we managed to look at it better, but the teams we need to break down. If he was as far as well, 4 as he got, he was as best performed at the season it was. If you look at where he'd done his best work, that was in our half, he completed that one cross out of 3 which was the goal, which he created the chance for the goal, which is fine, you know what I'm saying, but his dribble is 7 out of 8 outside our penalty area, not in the final third. It's great because he did complete that many books. He went in our half, not the city's half, which is where ideally you need them, exactly like you said. But the impact of having Lucudin being ill was that we attacked down the right hand side, 47% of the time, and only 28% down the left, and it's normally our wings are the big ones. You could see Lucudin's average position was the half way line, when normally it's higher up because he goes play higher, and that was a result of him obviously being not being well enough to do doggies all day and get up and down, and that marys had a good game and done well, but I still think part of that was because Lucudin wasn't on it, because he was ill. That's the way it's been, I think he's an editor, isn't it? Probably. On to the manager, there's been a lot of talk about the manager. It was a much improved, it was a better display from Everton, there was a lot of heart in it. There was still some fundamental issues which he might need, well he does need to correct, let's be honest. But let's talk about the formation. At the weekend, I think all of us feel that we probably should have played four, three, three, and gone at them, particularly with the illness going round, so the energy level is probably way in as high as what he could have been. He's played two defensive midfield plays. I haven't really got a problem for this game, because I think it was accepted that you knew kind of what we were going to do. But if we move away from this game for a minute, that two defensive midfield players doesn't need to be employed in our suggest 80% to 90% of the games we play in the season. I think we, talking off camera, I think we all agree that four, three, three, city are playing it, Liverpool are playing it, a lot of the best teams in Europe are playing it. OK, we're not going to play it to that level, but it's a starting point, isn't it? For me, I just want to see a manager put his philosophy on the team. What does he want and pick the players to fit what he wants and not the other way around? It's becoming tedious now. We give our opinions all the time. I've defended them when I feel as though we need to defend them, and other times I criticise them, I think we need to criticise them. Peds are probably slightly more critical than what I am, but that's fine. So how do you see it? Probably somewhere in between, where your opinions are when I've seen the videos and what you both think. I want it to wear. I think we all want it to wear. I don't think... I can see potential of where he can improve us but he's not going to unless he puts his philosophy and imprint on the team. If you're going to carry on doing what we've done under previous managers with the same personnel and the same ideas and the same philosophy, what's the point? Can I ask you, do you feel as though we've got the players to play differently? Yeah, 100%. Do you think this is probably more key? Do you believe that he should be getting more out of the players we've got in terms of quality level? Again, 100%. You're talking about chef United Games born with games, and they're games whereby the quality levels that you have on the pitch are unquestionable. So, there's a failing in. Obviously, it always moves away from the players as we go straight to the managers and a lot of the responsibility is going to sit with the players. However, when that's continuous, it's the same last season. We perform decent against the better sides. We let ourselves down a lot of the time and expect to be performing against. And that hasn't changed. And that's what contains me most is that that philosophy of the players going out onto the pitch. Is it an arrogance a bit? Do we think we don't need to work as hard as them? I don't know, but whatever it is, it hasn't changed. I think we could all manage the team and put these players on the pitch and have some level of performance over some of the drops that's in this league. But I don't know. That's what I want to see. The results are aside. I can see a bigger picture if there is one to be seen. But I can't see it. I don't know what it is. I want to know what it is. I hope there is a plan. And we can all get behind it. Currently, he's doing the same things and it's been insane, isn't it? To keep doing the same thing, that's not working. I don't... Wait, I mean, what? Any disagree with anything? No, I think that... I think that he, you know, with some of players and he's short on a couple of players, we know this already. The centre back issue is going to be the third again. I think that... And that falls on Marcel Brown. I said that on Deadline Day. I said that on Deadline Day when we never got a centre back. I said right then, I said that's an issue and it could come back and really hit us just not having... It's clear that it's something I think they're going to try and address in January. I really do because I think they've got to. And it really does affect how you play. You haven't got that insurance policy to catch. You've seen it last week? Last week at 1-0 we should have been throwing the kitchen sink at them and we couldn't. And even though we couldn't, we still left the door open for them and they scored with a little bit of pace. I think the manager has got... I do ask his empathy for the manager in terms of his lost players. I think his biggest problem is, and this was his biggest problem last season is, he doesn't know what his best 11 is. He doesn't know it at the moment because he's been he's been thrown a situation where it seems like he knows what his best 11 is on an ideal day when he's got all the players. But you've got to be able to have some kind of reaction to not having your best players. And again, it's difficult in a game like this because you are playing. The Premier League champions are fantastic football team. But last week, playing playing Snidlin, I just think that is just one of the most baffling decisions you can ever make. And that's no slight on Snidlin and saying this to at the match on Saturday, Snidlin's good for games like that, but he's not needed for games like Sheffield's later on. He wants something like Tom Davis in that. I don't care what anyone what people think of Tom Davis. This is kid who had to get on the board. And he's seen on Saturday when he came in straight away playing, there was a pass on, the one way he played to Shagerson, there was a pass on to the right. Dead obvious pass, everyone could see it. He didn't, he played an inside ball to Shagerson that if he touches... He tried that twice. And yes, there are times when he's a bit loose on the ball or he doesn't put enough on the ball. That's maybe because he doesn't play enough or because he's so relaxed. And I'm not saying that it just should be Tom Davis. Why not play a Wobby through the centre and have Bernard out wide and be a little bit different there? Why not say, you know what, we're just going to play Delph as I hold them today and I'm going to play Shagerson and a Wobby in the middle of the park and Bernard and really have something different and have a bit of movement and that's where the matter... The problem with, he's in a Cat 22 situation now, he's in there like, and he results do a change the team but he might need to change the team to get results and that's where he has to be strong and that, a lot of it comes on, obviously comes on the training pitch, doesn't he? Waking on stuff every day but it's who he's got available every day. I watch lesser teams or I can say that are lesser teams quality bars but they all play. They all play. Well-drilled but they all play with that attacking intent and that's my criticism of him is that there's not been enough variation in what we do so we tried the snaggling thing it didn't work, we tried it and the midfield team and Gomez were horrific that night even though Evan dominated the game and the manager come on and said we've won and all of that that's great if it's a one-off but we've also Chris Wilde I say, I don't know how we won that game we should never have been on the pitch at the outset there was a 50-50 game we didn't win that either and snaggling's played in all of those games and like I said the weekend against City, I thought they had a good game doing what he does but when you look at the make-up now the Premier League it's about energy it's about people buzzing all over the pitch certain teams do it better than others City do it better than other teams but it's still late you watch Leicester Leicester have got a few good players but basically they're all buzzing around at Bournemouth Bournemouth buzzing around you know those kind of teams they're not amazing but they work hard and they're prepared to commit players forward Crystal Palace when we played them not awful but we should have been the games would have been done by them but they've got players moving getting forward as well where I feel there's so static and our players higher up the pitch are static there's just no movement now whether that's coaching whether it's personnel I don't know but it's down to Marco to get that right and if he doesn't it will bite him it's got to be down to management by the stage for me I think we said on the Tuesday top last week that they're not brave enough to take a chance and again a lot of that is to do with the crowd and we were the same with Barclay try something a little bit different and suddenly it's but continuing to do the same thing passing our way passing our way these basic teams that were playing they can stop that it's really easy that's a couple of days ago I remember it was on scene that we'd had more shots on target than in the team since the beginning of last season which completely blew my mind completely blew my mind that's that and Saturday was the most shot city of faith since the start of last season in a game on target if you want to flip it on its head you could simply say well if we had a Bamiank let's say in our squad or we had a Vadi when we saw Ron we should have gone when we saw Ron and just gone we wanted because at some point at some point you've just got to say you need to centre forward and you prepare because we've pissed that much money up the wall why not go out and buy quality that you know is going to do it they might only do it for three years or two years or whatever they might have no sell on faith it's going to put the ball on the back of the net and it's going to allow the rest of your team to develop then at some point we've got to do that because that ultimately is our biggest problem that we can't put the ball on the back of the net and if someone say well you've had all the shots on target then it comes down to personal and that's where they go back to same old bottom before people can moan and moan and moan and moan all they want but they're not being a good enough player that's on the club Marcel Brands, the board, the manager the player though that's not the point the point being is that he's not going to score 20 goals a season he ain't going to score and I weighed the flag for them all the time but he ain't going to do it so you've got to say you've got to say at some point second striker isn't he but at some point you've got to say the club have got to say we just need to stop wasting money on this, this and this the problem is there isn't many at all no, there isn't and that's why you've got to spend the money but I'm saying ultimately you can put it down to that being the ultimate problem it hasn't had a goal score yet if a Bamiang has been available in the summer which apparently he was for 57 million everything should be smashing the door down for him where did he come on at fully understand but that's what I'm saying sometimes we're going all round the houses to find a solution can just be sometimes a player who can put the ball in the back of the net and I like to think that if we've had run with this team I think we will be striving because I think that's the thing that five managers time you've got someone who can put the ball in the back of the net it's massive isn't it but that's that baffles me though I'm surprised that but also with that stat I bet you're not most of them shot to come from our striker they'll be coming from shot to hide the box because it's not our striker missing the chances most of that now it's like it's pulling me down I don't think it will matter if you've got a baffles me but even if someone had said to me we were in the top six for shot on target before Bournemouth we were the only city that considered less than us in 2019 and people tell me that our defence was horrific but I think back in the last season we proper showed it up but from the start of 2019 we really showed it up in March we still had two months when we lost everything to every game and can see that's my goal so it shows you that I think we're still in like the top six or something for it which is bizarre considering I still think like the striker again I mean it's obvious but I still honestly I think if you had the baffles playing for us with the way we play right now I think what is issue is the quality of chances that we make at something I think Moise Keen would score a lot of goals if we made the right chances but I would get more obviously because you get more opportunities it's too many there's just no variation I think that's all it is I think it's the variation I watched Aguero come on on Saturday picked the ball up 30 yards from his own goal and committed three players then get it wide and set the third goal because that's the difference that's what a top class striker would do but it's you all there is three of them which is why they're where they are and Spears have got Keen but if you look at an Arsenal let's be honest a word some are able to hand on only because of what Bamiang an Lach has said the others the rest are in my bank average if you look at Everton that's I still think the midfield is a real is the problem for Everton I think that's the only thing easily 15 goals I think Dom could probably get 10 I still believe Moise Keen will get 10 this season he has just scored yet but I think he will I think Bernard might get four or five because he just doesn't finish well enough I think he can get six, seven, eight but the midfield and make up we don't commit players so if you're not dynamic and aren't making runs past them strikers them strikers aren't going to have space because if you're marking me and yet you haven't got a worry about getting ahead of you then you're not going to take your eyes off me so in general if you two are marking me and the nearest player to me is 30 yards if I score you two by the may because you haven't had to worry about anyone the only reason I get three is because one of our midfielders joins in and you think do a split, do a twist and then I get away which is what happens with City they have that many men and yes they are all brilliant but they have that many men in and around the box that it is difficult to pick players up so they will get goals from everywhere Everton don't we have the if it's Bernard and Dean Bernard's out of the equation because he's come out to try and be the assistant like Pinar used to be he's come out to try and create the space for Dean Dean crosses it in, you'll have Ritialisyn coming in on the back and you'll have Don or Moise Keane Gilfield will be somewhere on the edge of the box maybe James won't be anywhere else and our two centre mids will be on the half way line so you've normally got five men marking two players so it's no worry really don't take an Einstein to work out that unless that crosses perfection and that centre back switched off and you've allowed to go in they've just got to edit clear we've got the one against Bournemouth didn't we Ray Cavalier and come in and got it because we committed that but the thing is is that how many more did we throw over and he edited it just wide or not don't think there was any other one you said that before we do something and then we kind of go that way that but don't do that again and it's like no no keep doing the thing that way if it doesn't work 42 crosses the other week sorry to Ritialisyn again against Sheffield United without Don and the Cavalier they went on the pitch bringing talks on which was mad even that was mad because it's like Don is ex-club and he scored a week before against Bournemouth and he scored in the air put him alongside Moise Keane and go knock them down to him I don't know and then Towson scored too and then wasn't on the bench at Bournemouth and then he's come on the pitch the week like Don doesn't even get on against Sheffield and he's not even in the 18 against City no it's strange it's these things that are he might have been sick or he might not have found any polish with his head you said that but it's all of these things it's all of these things that I think make people like you are questioning a manager instead of him going right we need to mix this up this isn't work and we played seven games we've lost four games and we've played Villa, Bournemouth Sheffield United Crystal Palace Aston Villa and even the wins against Watford and Wallsway but the Wallswam was a good win because we had to react and we did do well Watford was a crack game that we got to get you'll have a lot of them Walls was an open game I think and Walls was a bit more open so we were okay Palace we should have won we missed chances then we could have lost it we missed opportunities we had two off the line, Guilfee missed a sitter in early on then we could have lost it Pickford made two big saves which got us a point but I don't think Saturday was probably the best but then was that just because the opposition was really good and we fought was it a performance that you come out going we didn't have play well there I didn't try come out when we were improved and that's better we were better than we were last week didn't put a performance together we just hung in there and we had chances and we hadn't seen any kind of performance now I don't know about YouTube but we were born barely sorry away the weekend and it's like they're not going to turn up if we go to barely and play snidlin and Delf they're just going to eat it up all day because they're going to isolate them they've got big dogs at the back they'll bypass it and go along to Wood and to Ashley Barnes now that's my favourite keen and meaner because those two are slow as well they've got the big lads but they're slow we'll make them look quick but what are we doing the other way and we need to be because we generally play with a low block and just bang it from back to front we're going to have to be able to move them around and are you confident we're going to move them around the way City moved us no because if we play that in a field that is immobile and snidlin and Delf it's immobile it's not a midfield that's going to pull people out of position it's not a midfield that's going to break past the striker and score that's what we're doing it's just unpaced Gomes is massive for us he's massive for Silver because he gets older he's strong and he's got vision and he keeps recycling it and he does it quickly so he can get he can move teams out of position without him what annoyed me about the manatee he hasn't tried to look for a different solution he's left he's gone almost back to type and that's where he's got to improve tell me a bit more we've got our players who want to pass the ball forward and run forward we should be an attacking team we've spent a lot of money that we shouldn't be trying to hang on in games we should be the ones going out it's okay dominating the possession but if you're not cutting teams open with the money we've spent and we have wasted half of it don't get me wrong but that's the thing for him and for the players it's a big game it's a massive game I'm sure it'll all be on it's going on so that's it I'm going to depress anyone it was better but it's still ultimately we lost four out of five games that's not good big thanks to Mike for coming in and joining us on the show make sure you subscribe if you haven't give the video a thumbs up and join us over on Patreon and don't forget to check the link for the athletic as well Paddy Boil under BA this week as well check that out thanks for watching smile will be barely at the weekend maybe see you later