 And thank you all for persevering with us through the meeting and coming here. I'd like to recognize our guests, and if you just identify yourselves for the record. I'll land this right now. It won't be long. Okay. Any agenda revisions from any board members? We need to add that one action agenda item to be approving the authorization of check writing. So Bill asked me at the end not to do anything with that for some reason. And I told him that we probably do have another board meeting on the day of the school meeting, which is June 28th. That's actually a board meeting. So that if anything needed to be done, we just do it there. It's the June 28th is the school meeting for the vote. That's actually an in-person vote. So that's actually an official school meeting. So if we have to do anything with this blanket authorization, we'll do it then. Do we have a bit of time on that? 5.30. Okay. Great. Okay. Public comments or correspondence? Any? Who would like to be our timekeeper? We'd love to be our timekeeper. Can I do it? Sure. If you please. And so we have, okay, so our next item up is the consent agenda, which is to approve the minutes from June or June 3, 2019 meeting. Is there any motion? I had one very small spelling change. Was it Talitha's name? Oh, okay. And since I can't edit it. So that's on page 4. Tell that to you. Yeah. Let's first approve the motion. Oh, we should approve them? Oh, thank you. Yeah. So... Okay. So is there a motion? I move. Second? I'll second. Okay. Discussion? Okay. It's on page 4 about the third paragraph down. It's just T-A-L-I-T-H-A. Along the same vein, I would say that on page 1, under the 1.0 call to order, it's Elliott Berg, B-U-R-G, and John Pulio, P-U-L-E-I-O, as opposed to John Paleo, although the age would be, the age would work. So with any other changes? Can you tell me what that is? Yep, it's on page 3.8. Is that true? That is correct. Under 3.8, it's the second paragraph. Okay. And it's T-O. It should be T-A-L-I-T-H-A. Any other revisions? Is there a motion? All in favor of the minutes as amended, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Any objections? Any none? Next up is discussion of the gym renovations, 3.1. And I would, yeah, so 3.1. This is one of the items that has come back onto the agenda just for clarification purposes. And I think I'm going to ask that we hold off just a little bit until Phil gets here to talk about it because he was going to give us some insight about the fund balance and the move to capital budget. So I think that will all come together well at that point. Same for the update on the playground. Unless you have any update for us on the playground. Phil was the contact for that. He was. He did reach out to regular residents. I mean, I can give you the update on some of the roof stuff and some of the boiler stuff. Great. Brad, do you hear that? No, I don't hear notes. But the roofers should be coming sometime this week or next to do the reworking of our leaky roof. So I'm looking to separate that. Just over the library. Just over the library. That question? Or is it you all? I believe that they are doing a pretty comprehensive look over. And Nate was really impressed with the extra roofing that will be doing that work. So I'm feeling very hopeful. So it will continue problems. Banished is not the original folks? No. The original folks no longer exist. Okay. And so, do you know one way or another whether that repair is being covered by the warranty? It is. It is. Great. Okay. In the boiler? May I finish? Sure, I'm sorry. Which Bill will also probably weigh in on. So as we've been looking at this and there's been through the winter, you know, we had a pretty aggressive winter, which I don't know may become a more common place in years to come. But we continue to run into problems with the fans on top of the roof that are part of the refrigeration system. And so as he was working with the roofers as well as examining this, we had two service calls just because of drifting and it was hard to keep up with. And with the nature of the flat roof, the less we do to it, shoveling wise, walking on wise, et cetera, the better it is for the roof. So anyways, his kind of proposal is to actually build up the platform higher to accommodate more so we don't have the service calls and that type of thing while we have banister there. So Bill and I will talk to you when he gets in regarding those quotes that we've gotten from Alliance Mechanical as well as from Banister to make those improvements long so that it's all covered. What mechanical was that? Alliance. Alliance. And so they're just to raise these refrigeration fans off the top? Right, and you'll see it on many flat roofs, you know, just admiring the way sides set up, as I was with the Six Raiders the other day. But yeah, they would build up curbs that then the roofers would ensure this roof under me, et cetera, so that we don't have the build up of snow and drifting that's affecting the mechanical system. Okay. Do you have a sense as to what those quotes are? Do you have a sense? I'm just talking about 5,000 total because it's actually involved in two companies. Okay. And would that be for the building the platforms or whatever? For two units. The two units, okay. And does that include the roofing work or not? That does include the roofing work as well as the crew and the whole guys. Okay. Next? The boiler. So that should be coming the 24th. That's the normal summer cleaning routine and maybe working to adjust some hours as needed based on the workflow. So, you know, that's just something I've asked Nate to be considering with building use, et cetera. Okay. Thanks very much. So I would just propose that we hold off the discussion for the can rehab and the uptake on playground until we have bill with us. And so we're down to 4.0. Any other reports to the board? Yeah. I'd love to check back. Just there was a topic that came up. We had our business with Casey and I asked him, you know, we met regarding transition. I've been setting up transition files, making sure that we've got the smooth transition of just basic information, that type of thing. And I posed the question around the transition team and asked him to formulate an email response that I could reach you to. Okay. So this is Casey. Hi, Amy. Thank you so much for making yourself available to support a positive transition to remedy. Additionally, time with faculty and staff last week was so helpful for me in putting things into perspective. I appreciate the offer of a transition committee. But at this time, I would not like to pursue that. My vision for the transition through the summer as I shared with the faculty and staff last week include reaching out about times I will be available to meet with teachers to connect if they're available and interested. While I do not expect anyone will be available during the summer in a formal capacity, some teachers have expressed interest and willingness to connect over the summer. When I'm in and settled and after connecting with Deborah, I will share my availability in the summer and look forward to further connecting with the staff, I'm sorry, with faculty, staff, and families. I will create opportunities to listen input and learn more about remedy operations and look forward to the intentional planning that goes into some of our work. Thank you, Casey. Okay. I'm just going to forward this to you, Chris. Great. Appreciate that. Any other developments or reports? I think the year's wrapping up. We've had many special events, as you saw in the newsletter. Six graders were tremendous. So, please slide. I so enjoyed their company and it sounds like they had a tremendous day with Diddy and the crew. Past that, it's just trying to tie up loose ends and make sure all of our interview reports are done and that our normal student celebrations are kicked off. We had a great visit to kick off summer reading program with Kellogg Library just last Wednesday and so we're hoping to keep those kids reading this summer. Our test scores back. Our test scores are back and I wish I could tell you that they're like under their embargo right now. I have a rough, sorry. So, I'm really excited for you guys to take a peek at those when they release. Do you have a census when they will be released? I mean, do you have to pay a tariff or something to get them released? I'm going to say it's June 20th, but I'm not sure. I'm not 100% on that. There's a difference between like releasing individual students and releasing school level results. So, I need to go back and double check that and really look for the nod from general arsenal. Just as a point of information for me, why are they in part? It's individual student data that's back, but it hasn't been compiled at a school level for a really good public. So, individual student reports will go home with the four parts and so I think most of you will see the improvement students will pay. Okay. Thank you very much. So, we can go to the action agenda. If you're ready for that. I'm going to go for hunting for Bill. I'll go for that. I don't mind. Good Bill hunting? Yeah. No. Sorry. We are firing a honey cylinder. Just fill in the space. You're going to do it for your summer. Got a niche farmland? Anyone? My sports elicited swimsuit model contract ran out last year so I'm totally free. That sounds great. It's a popular issue. Actually, Allison's comedy show will be coming out soon because she's on camera. Oh, again. You're going to get discovered. Someone working at Orphan is going to be like, here's a place. Okay. How are you? Welcome. So, we are going to go back to our discussion agenda and where we have Jim rehab and the update on the playground and other capital projects. So, if you just give us any background on the playground update, any more information about that? Yeah. So, John Ray Hill, Kelly Busch and I met today. The reason is Amy is transitioning as well as myself. Kelly has been asked to watch this topic until Casey's really on board and can take it on. So, not that Casey isn't capable, we just let them make sure it's transitioning. Where John Helmberg is giving me a proposal for John Ray Hill and John Helmberg and some other folks from Black River Design to look at all the issues we talked about at the last meeting and not only the playground issues, but some good work in front of the building with the sidewalk. And it looks like it's going to be about $5,500 to $6,000 total. I'm putting a little buffer in that estimate. And that's on the area in front of the building? Yeah, all the sidewalk issues and all that. We're all very concerned about that front sidewalk area. It's going to get very pricey because it's the under, it's the subsurface underneath. It's a problem that there isn't water drainage from underneath that. So that's what, I mean, we all know, we all live in Vermont long enough, what causes things to rise and fall, it's frost and water underneath. So what was the $5,500? It's the design. Remember how you put $6,500 for just the sidewalk? So he's going to do all of it? John Ray Hill is being a great community resource, as he always is, and saying, I'm going to help you guys out. And so it's really parts of different personnel and some of John Ray Hill, but he's also donating some time as he has to do the piece. So we're trying, I said to John Helmgaarden, give me that letter of intent. You know, before the end of this month, when I do that, get that done. We had an initial meet, the good news is the folks who, John Marsh, who did the site work, we actually have a topographical map of all the back side of it. So that's really accelerating things because the problem would have been if we had had a survey of everything in the back and all that. So that's giving us an elevations. We're actually trying to get to a more, believe it or not, a more gentle slope so we don't have to have handrails because there's code that allows you not to have to put up handrails if you can get to a one in 20 slope instead of a one in 12 slope. And John Ray Hill said that today, he said, we'll be a lot better off in the long run and a lot less maintenance and you stay mad and sit back. The issue is the end of the building. We need to put an ADA entrance at the end of the creek, K primary building. So then when the pace is out toward the parking lot? At the end of the year. Okay. At the end of the day. So I said end of the year. At the end of the day. Sorry. I have a quick question about that. For a practical standpoint, will StayMap be sufficient for somebody to actually physically push a wheelchair up and or get snow removal off of on a slope? So we do do it at other schools. And it's worked out okay? Yeah. I mean it's not asphalt but the problem with asphalt is we're going to probably have more free-staffed. Yeah. You'll get more expensive to maintain. Once you have some free-staffed and you have a dip, to get more StayMap doesn't cost that much. Right. But when you have freeze, especially rise, to cut out the asphalt level, can't get back down and put new asphalt on it. When you do little bits of asphalt, it's very expensive compared to the areas of asphalt. So we've had this experience at the Calisthenics number of years. All right. So we've had some of that. You're right. I mean snowboarders don't like gravel, but they can handle it. It just means you're replacing him with a snowboard. Yeah. So with the improvement to the door on that end of the building, would also that be able to be used then as an anti-cap enterance? Yeah. That's what we're talking about. EDA total anti-cap enterance. Well, not just the accident. Right. Right. I'd say accident. Yeah. The whole idea is that that's another accessible. There would be other accessible places that we, as we talked about, we get a walk around about putting some grants at the fire exit doors and a little bit more of a asphalt in the background entrance exit. We do that too. So is this fixing up that entry way as an EDA is that more extensive than we were anticipating? Probably. Okay. Does that throw off anything in terms of the projects that we have? I just don't know. I just don't know. We're too early into the design phase to even get a cost system right? Okay. Can I just clarify? Was it $5,500 for the sidewalk design or for the playground? Both. Okay. Sidewalk and the ramp. We had just $6,500 for the sidewalk. We can do it all. Got it. So we're going to save some money that we thought. I can't tell you how much until we get estimates for that. We're trying to make the site work as that's very appropriate. It's going to last but it's inexpensive to meet those goals as we can. Okay. And lay out a fence so we get to that piece because if you remember we have two different contracts. Yeah. We have the fence and the ramp and Black River Design is open to that. The work that Amy's done on playground equipment we've got to get into that piece as well but that's working with the playground contractors. Which we don't have. We don't have that going yet. Identified yet. Yeah. We don't. And so literally this is a I'm telling you about a 12 o'clock in Hamilton last week about this event John Ray Hill today. So John Ray Hill has some good ideas for actually a ramp coming up on the parking lot side that actually might be easier. We're definitely after what you were talking about Katie about trying to keep the distance as short as possible but getting to that one in 20 slope which is even more gradual but it gets away from handrails and having to have flat spots along the slope so we want to have those as well. So we're really trying to and I thought it was a good idea that John Ray Hill had. Does he think there's enough space to do that? Yeah. He got a he took a 11 by 11 no 8 by 14 sheet and you know he was just scaling it off but I mean he's got to do this design Chris. I wouldn't quote me on that. He's got to sit that iron really light and work with Don Marsh who's our civil engineer to help us do all that work. If they're looking at the entries I want to make sure that the doors are also applied for some of those the renovation there. Yeah. Just because they're resting there. Those doors those doors and the front doors are not really placed in the renovation. I was speaking of the focus. Yeah the front doors are. They're wide enough is the problem is they're resting at the bottom. They're literally resting away. So. Walk a little look at all that. And so then one of the things we looked at is we talked about the capital fund in there a little bit about what the if I go to page 22 and you look at the one the Memorial School Capital Fund additional information we started with what's currently in your capital fund of a total of let me show you the numbers here so I'm not going to your current capital fund balance well so the current capital fund balance is about 160,000 any in this year but that doesn't include the deduct of the I don't remember what we've been talking about this so we also said that we're recommending to you on the page before that on page 29 that you move $89,000 on the capital fund the 2% and we asked that you do that motion percentage because then they we're in June so we hopefully we'll get more money in that less so that leaves a 65,326 into the general fund the idea is that if you look at on page 22 and if I'm going too fast slow me down is that you would have a capital at the end of the day of page 32 if you look at the Romney and Memorial Line you would have 249,602 yep your budget and funds would be 40 so it would make it up to 289 and that 284 includes the boiler work that you've already approved playground work up to $90,000 $6500 for design of the entrance $95,000 and I sent this to you in an email to our senator Chris I think he sent it along $95,000 for soundproofing the gym chimney work because we just learned as I sent an email to all of you that the chimney needs to be lined that's $12,600 and because the roofers are coming back and doing some warranty work something that need and you should and that's about that was 5,000 I had planned on 7 when I was doing this budget you know me I always throw in a little bit extra just to make sure so that would give us $284,000 worth of spending and leave about $5500 at the end in the capital in the capital towards Romney so we're trying to you know I called Chris last week we waited I think we got this finally figured out money wise for you so everything gets done now as Amy said there are other projects like the doors and we just did two double doors at Cal's this past spring and it was about $8,000 to $10,000 because you've got a frame you don't just take the door out put the door in it's framing and electronics because there's electronic holders so you got to have an electrician you have to have framers and you have to have interior installation that's what they usually call the door so the frame is also rested I bet the frames usually when you have a door they usually say you buy the whole unit of frame and all just because they match together with you okay maybe we should get one made out of aluminium I'm totally not kidding what are you saying what are you saying maybe we should not put in a steel door we should put in an aluminium door whatever we call it aluminum door is there a safety issue? the architects figure that out what's the best wear and price for the money they're pretty good at that I mean John Helmhauer and John Rayall have done us right by lots of work and getting us the most efficient use of every dollar for the rest of the business I have lots of praise for those guys they tell us when hey you're spending money you should so they do it and this is the first architect I've met really? yeah it's good to that is good to hear yeah ok so we are any questions about this capital plan? can you just tell me where you got your $284,000 number? yeah so if I look at page 22 yeah I'm down in the capital fund additional information down the bottom there I'm looking at that $249 that's taking the the $160 that you had in your capital fund plus what we're recommending for Romney which is a transfer of $89,000 I'm doing this with whole numbers ok but that $89,000 plus the $160 should get you to that $249 and then we subtracted all the project then you see we put $40,000 that's in this current year's budget that gets us to the $289 and then we subtracted the $284 with projects ok it's just a different way of kind of getting to the same accounting we've been doing we've done it a little differently Lori said I think this is a little pure if we get to everything you have and then start to cut down all the projects whether they're starting as in the boiler as next week that makes sense thanks and I think I calculated $274 $100 adding up all the $65,090 $6500 it's not the $65,000 it's the $89 for the boiler is what I was saying isn't it more than $65,000? isn't it more than $65,000? because one of the things in the boiler project is there's no contingency money and the boiler looked at me and said go and she pressed Lori put in 10% which is your contingency which is another $66,000 okay so that that helps okay any friends? Bill did any work was any work on the root of the gem that they performed? yep what about trim and placement? yeah what about painting the interior of the gem you know that has to happen you know it has to a certain height level one or level two there's two levels right but I mean it's been up it hasn't been that far off the ground I want to say okay what about the gem and primary side? some of the gem side has been done but the primary has not wall insulation in the primary yet? no primary windows? no side bumping you know gem floor? no primary classroom lights? no this is this is a list that was provided to us a few years ago once when we did the was a basic capital improvement plan you mentioned that yes to pay a head for the next five years and beyond we needed to set aside any funds to address issues that couldn't either be we couldn't afford to address in the bond we had to scale it down for work perhaps convenient but would be in not too distant future and so in an attempt to be more thoughtful and from a planning perspective of ensuring that we're keeping the building up keeping it's upkeep in order and trying to reduce the amount of the bonding you'd have to do for the intent was let's fund the capital on an ongoing basis had to go out for about $10 million bond again and so the facilities director for U32 did a five year from 2017 to 2021 planned and I did actually I only went through the items that were at 10,000 or higher on the list there's other smaller items on here and these are all to be we're recommending to be completed during that time frame so some have already passed without being done and some already be done in the next year or toward already be done this year so we're talking like gin roofs 32,000 trim is 10,000 the gym in primary setting together is 35,000 I don't know what it's we've had sections of the gym but not everything I'd have to I'd have to have someone look at that why if we had sections of the gym done like what caused that to so that's I'm wondering so there were riding boards and now we're just the rest of it is can you get in that fewer place? it's going to have to deteriorate I'd like to just mention just for your knowledge neat flagged an area on the gym roof the other day he has had a chance to check it out but you found it oh fun like leaking troubling yeah he's concerned there could be a leak there but you get up on the gym if you need a second person it's it's always it's a coordinated car so there's a team orchestrated I just I'm not trying to sway but thinking I just want to be transparent what else are the teachers bringing up that they need do you know is there any that isn't on that list this is only capital stuff right but like you mentioned windows or is there anything on that list that is has gotten worse since whenever it was that you guys discussed that okay does anybody wish to reconsider how we are appropriating the money that we have before we lose control of how many is spent on our school that is one of the questions here and do we have any specific plans for the primary unit in terms of if we could I mean if we wanted to shift our focus there I think the sidewalks pretty pretty important if you buy more copies then we would get shit so would the sidewalk be more important than these things in terms of the primary unit it's hard it's hard to give you that piece Chris from my perspective I'd want John Hamilton slash John Ray Hota weigh in on that because you've got accessibility issues at the same time how far how much water infiltration in the primary lane between the side and we've done tried to patch in the best we can and we replaced the roof last year which was great so we got the top part taken care of whether those windows are you know they're I don't know if they're original so the 91 one was built or if they some of them they remember from Adam telling me some of them were replaced but they they weren't replaced with commercial standard windows they were replaced with home level residential windows so you don't get the same type of window and life is the kind has anyone here been in one of the primary classrooms on one day yeah what was your impression my son said everybody stinks because it's so hot in here but he wasn't wrong like it was it was warm and brothly with humor all the children running around and kindergarten is also a particular concern so is that a ventilation issue is it a window I think it's partially the upgrades that are on that list the windows the siding the insulation we didn't touch that ventilation system in the last presentation so have air quality testing been done in the primary unit we used to do the air we've done air quality testing in the when we're having air quality in the 5-6 so no they haven't been done there hasn't been something that's gotten to that level but we just we know and we're dealing you know like in this building we have air energy in 20 years and we can see the lifespan that's the bad thing let's put it in place in 91 sometimes it's just clean a filter sometimes it's not a rotation the filters are on a rotation they are so it doesn't sound like it's a filter it would just take it would take some digging down to what's what's going to what and we're not going to be going to answer you tonight Chris what it's going to take and you have you make a decision you know how much things cost for those different areas we have the the plan that Brian brought and thank you Brian for bringing that up that that whole book put together but those are all different considerations than you consider to do really I thought about because we are I guess you know the temperature and the primary wind isn't going to be resolved just by having new windows it's actually there's it's a design around like light that's coming in insulation so the figures that are on here aren't necessarily just by putting in new windows you don't get a cool just to clarify that yeah we didn't touch that side so it is almost four years old showing its age and many of the windows that are in there if you take a look at them aren't designed to be able to promote more air movement necessarily you know it's like they're more fixed or so I don't know what gains could be I'm sure like you were saying it's a facet of addition I just sent this everybody by the way to be in here about you know in terms of the gym roof and how far beyond it's life is that if you know here it has replaced me in 2019 I would assume those over 15, 20 years shingles and Matt's got details and another report that we have in the story with the backs of that of some of the ages things we have to look at just to give everybody an update we're 25 minutes into our allotted 60 minutes for discussion on gym and capital projects okay so it's the primary windows for 2020 yeah see was that you are in fact it's all four minutes and it's not there it's not there it's not there so that was document I think it's a more visual version of what Charlie said so what is there a leaking issue in the primary is there leaking I mean Bill is talking about leaking going down I don't know no we changed the other roof okay you know we've had in the past that water infiltration on the wall okay but it's happening right now I haven't gotten the survey well has it happened to your knowledge over the past since we've had the new has there been water infiltration into the walls and let me back up a little how would you know that there was water infiltration previously because they were coming in through the windows along the sides by the trim so actually coming into the classroom I can't tell you if it isn't happening Chris all I can tell you is when it does happen because in a building it can be leaking into the wall and not seeing it on the inside building previously when it was happening we saw it yeah again we replaced some windows or you know we had to that's when we got to it when it came all the way out into the into the room itself through the wall or through the window or through the door I mean that's when we did these things it wasn't you know we're trying to get one of the goals of this was to get in front of it going all the way because it's coming into the walls and we're not seeing it it's probably another word that I don't know so Lamy has your experience been that there's been any leakage in the primary unit over the past two years but I'm not aware of any okay and I'm not saying maintenance wise it's not worthwhile replacing things but just in terms of an immediate need so the 65,000 that we're transferring to the 1869 165 they explained the I'm sorry that becomes a pooled resource or a Romney resource it's a pooled resource under the general fund okay and we're suggesting that because as Laura was giving a good example of how funds transfer to the just that alone remember constantly putting cash on it you bring up ADA compliance of bathrooms in here which is something I actually think we've talked about but it's a really good point do we have any issues with that we're pretty good I think we're fine all but two bathrooms are ADA and we have enough accessible ADA the code doesn't say you have to have all but you have to have if there's something like that I'm not going to go correctly there's something like a reasonable access could student in first grade need an accessible bathroom they have to go down to the other end of the building right or we have to move the classroom into on that so either one would address the issue they want to address the issue okay you know the positive we do have a first grade classroom that will be near some of the accessible spaces that's true do we need changing to this do we need more that would be we can legalize the nurses perfect is the does the renovation at the end of the building for ADA compliance address the ADA compliance issues at the main entryway as well not like today but like I said that would be open does it address the ADA compliance for the building so the code is that you must have one ADA okay then all areas must be accessible okay so we doing that entryway that you talked about before would make run the school ADA compliant I'm not going to use the word would I'm going to use the word should good okay because I can't hear do you know that's John that's the I'll just say John's where open that's why we're the dining issues right that's why we're doing science do you know one way or another whether there is a different standard of compliance for fire safety versus the ADA yes there is okay and are the the fire safety is very okay so would if we had that one area at the end of the primary unit which is that's what you're talking about having ADA accessible entryway and exit way right well we'd like to add that yeah okay because if we think it would make it easier to get the playground going off sure we're trying to cut all that down we're like this we think we can do this within where we have the funds I mean we're trying to get cost assistance I just don't know dollars for you and that's what puts you in our places of ordering you don't have firm except for the boiler and the chimney work and the roof work that's all we have so I'm I'm going to assume that it's better to have more than one fire exit than just more than one ADA and more than one ADA for safety purposes for safety purposes yeah okay so if the so we shouldn't we shouldn't have to yeah I mean that's what we talked about when we did the walk around back in May we're going to build some those grants we're going to do that that's not that big of a cost is that is that compliant for safe for fire purposes building wooden ramps John said John Hilberg suggested so I'm going to he did okay he just wanted to put some asphalt in the back doors so two quarters of an inch put some extra asphalt okay so we're just we're trying to do what we can to try to get the most out of the dollars for the residents okay my any more discussion I mean I personally would be in favor of reappropriating how we have decided to spend our capital dollars that we have but I think I've already been pretty clear on that so okay so let's we have a list of items here and we should probably go one by one I think or cut to the chase and say it's the room gym renovations that are really the reappropriation because these other things are anything else required right there we're trying to I mean do you have this list that I sent you and I'll just give you no I'm looking off the list we read off which was the boiler boiler's done yeah the playground is we're designing we're not you know we're not changing that the $6,500 for the design that's done the gym at $95,000 that the chimney work what? the chimney work the chimney work the chimney work you have to do that for the boiler right so that's that's not really negotiable a roof work as well and the roof the $5,000 to take care of the curves bringing them up bringing up the units to preserve the roof and maintain operations so we're really talking about the the allocation for the gym okay right can you think about a future a future vote because that's the obvious thing it's the renovation versus these items that have been offered tonight first our program that were put forth years ago in the past six months we've never heard of any of this so it's kind of out of the blue but these all sound wonderfully significant legitimate things putting on the table at some point in time John just to be clear so you know that this information has been brought up at different meetings over the course of the last six months especially as we were planning our budget for this upcoming fiscal school year so this isn't this might be this is a new conversation for this board to have but we've been having this conversation just moving past publicly so that's fine I would say I just want you to be aware of this this isn't sort of out of the blue and I would say that the discussion about the checklist has been out there but I don't think we talk specifically about projects this year about doing any the primary unit projects so that is new and we also should not lose sight of the fact that with the building being transferred if it gets transferred to this new entity also has responsibility for maintenance well that's where I was going in a future vote and you know no harm in the file I mean if those items it seems to me one way to look at it those items were significant enough to bring to the table some homework would have been done to get possibly some unupdated quotes for what these things cost so now we're presented with items that we don't know really cost them just so you know my thinking is that there's sort of there's a philosophical one of the highest most significant attention points around that point we're a lot of depth because we didn't plan necessarily does that send to me I have trouble with that but also I think about I raised this at our last meeting another concern I have is that you know all these issues might not be issues that we need to address right now but setting aside money down the road and at this point single time we've run into tension around the capital budget and why it hasn't been funded for the last few years basically it all comes down to staffing so we either cut staffing so at some point it's not going to be able to use recommending to the next board that we fund things the way they were described one to one and a half percent whatever it might be when almost said and we're having like changing the curve between the curve more intention is for that money to fund forget the gym renovation