 Okay, and I mean just talking about insure tech and you know some of those startups What was some of the most exciting projects that that you saw? Well very interestingly Michael I found that the different continents between Europe and the UK and the US had a very different focus on what those insure tech startups were doing. I found that in Europe and in the UK They had moved beyond just trying to attack various parts of the insurance value chain and that was the kind of pilots and PSCs that the corporates were engaging with with the startups while in my time in the US the kind of Projects that the corporates were interested in doing with the startups focused more around Attacking a specific problem in their value chain Now that doesn't mean that there weren't startups that wanted to do something new that wanted to create a What they would call a full-stack product right from the beginning to the end where they Provided all the services and they in effect really acted as an insurer But of course the corporates weren't really interested in working with them because they would see them as direct competitors Okay, so I mean you know that that's one of the interesting things with these startups is that the corporates Want to support them because you know seen as socially responsible, you know, helping upcoming entrepreneurs And you also if there is going to be a new technology that cannibalizes the industry You want to make sure that you've got a foot in the door But on the other hand you also you don't want to fuel the fire that is going to destroy the empire that you've built So I kind of find you out It's an interesting relationships that the big corporates have with the smaller entrepreneurs And that's I guess you're like you say it makes sense for them to say to them Hey, rather focus on just one area of the value chain and see if you can perfect that I mean, there's that company called lemonade where Their whole thing is that the claim process is that it's recorded and the idea being that people are less likely to lie Or they say that their technology can identify if somebody is is lying in the the claims process And this is targeted just to try and reduce fraud And I mean, you know, even in South Africa We've also got a few other insured tech companies popping up that are just trying to do one or two few things differently But when you look at them, they're backed by the big bigger companies that are handling a lot of the risk You know taking such as, you know, Sunlam is doing with in different and I even see the pineapple We've had on on the channel. They've also got like a an actuarial company behind them That's actually handling more of the risk component. So it's yeah, it's interesting seeing the insurance and entrepreneur space Because I don't know Kiara, have you have you ever thought of going full entrepreneur after after your studies or what are your career? Things are you looking to go more into the office world and the traditional space? But I'm currently because obviously I'm still doing my honors I haven't really thought about going like completely entrepreneurial because I do think By go for initiative There's a lot to learn and I feel like I currently don't have the expertise that I'd like to have to go and start up my own thing I think I would like to work underneath someone sort of see how they do things and then take it from there Because I think there's like a lot that you don't realize it goes behind especially in insurance there's a lot that you don't think about and I think you need to first gain a bit of insight before you can just go on by yourself