 Huss Check it check it check it. This is unique house is your boy e ceo, and I'm here with the official miss Jamaica What's going on? We got a special guest in the house today y'all say man I'm gonna tell you something when I first sit out to deal with a podcast Say I wanted to hit all juniors, baby and the blues come on man. I'm gonna be honest with you I'm a blue man. Go back and look at my post today. You'll see I talk that blues real good man Check it man. Sir Charles Jones is in the building man. What's going on, baby? Yeah, I love your clothes man No, here we go. I Know you look at you bless me man. I love the way you came in a man It's just a honor and a pleasure to be and you know if somebody was living on the rock You know what I'm saying and didn't know who sir Charles Jones is tell us a little bit about who what is who is sir Charles jump? Sir Charles Jones is one of the youngest living legends Okay, that was brought through the tool that you follow the older legends and paid respect and they gave me their blessings and now I'm blessing all of the new young comers now and continue in the legacy of blues and Southern soul music Man, you know what you you help me out a lot and don't even realize baby. I know you hear that a lot Tell me I say they like to stop them from drinking. Say man. They made the babies. Oh, you You took over key sweat spot action. Yeah, you know, you bridge the gap You know, it's kind of like getting a lot of the tool it's an idea from key sweat. Oh, yeah, you know Keep man. If that's the biggest beggar, you know You got the bag boy got a bag for it a little bit So so tell us how you got the music just just run us down through that a little bit Getting off into it from my parents, you know, okay My mom she was a preacher 25 years and then my father was the lead singer of a gospel group called the Christian all-stars. Oh When I look around man, I ain't gonna lie when I thought when blues was really, you know I was I was set on Johnny Taylor and I remember when when when I was set on Johnny Taylor I was set on Lil Milton. I was set on like I said Clans Brown I was set on all of these different folks before you came. I'm just gonna be real with you I'm all the cats. So they don't get away. And then when I and then I was sitting out here this dude, man, and I'm like this dude too young when it first popped off I was this dude to y'all to be singing blues to me. You know I'm saying I'm I'm used to hearing them growl I like Bobby blue bland or something. Yeah Have a snorkel or something now now then I looked around and and in the song that really just took me by storm Was this Friday because I used to have Lil Milton You know what? I'm saying everybody got a holidays. So I'm got Christmas a new year But every Friday's mine. I got 52 a year and then I turn around and this guy comes With his Friday Friday the same today cuz it's like almost what made you think what made you think to do that song? Well, you know saying I hadn't really in a long time had heard a song where I said I wanted it To be a classic, you know saying and everybody on Friday only thing You know, you got people out there working hard and after that clock out It's Friday. I go get my whiskey man I ain't got nobody gonna work tomorrow. I'm fit to get ready for the club over do that So I wanted to put all of those entities into one song and then at the same time when I was making it I wasn't really thinking about that I was just making a song called Friday and didn't know the magnitude of how this was gonna blow up now I'm getting invited to NFL football games and big-time gigantic NFL stars inviting me flying me up to Look at them in practice in the locker room jamming Friday. I'm like this song is real heavy You know, it's Friday is a bigger record than anybody. Listen man. Anybody lonely bad though. Don't play now I know but you when you need that thing now, it'll scale up on a bad time It'll scale up now. Don't try to play like it won't scale up nice Friday might be bad Good time, but but it's a is anybody lonely will scale up on it Like far as the fan base It'll it'll it'll it'll it takes the cream. You know, yeah, yeah, but I would say Friday Far as an international record that somebody from Saudi Arabia might walk up on you and sing your song to you Stretches out It goes all the way over Like Jason Peters the offense to tackle yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah straight out of East Texas I'm from a shot out to Jason Peter, baby. It's my best friend in this Hey, that bottom ball shoes off the truck come from this stove, man You know, I'm gonna let you I'm gonna call him when we get finished and man when he flew me up to Philly and Always been a Philadelphia Eagle. I gotta get him on here. I just thought We know we deal with a lot of saying people he right there for I'm from I graduated London kill there So I know exactly what he's doing But but the thing I can say about you man, you say anybody long I'm gonna I'm gonna grab one month I just can't let go right just can't let just can't let go is the one that boy I don't know what you were going through. Is that allowed? Oh, did she really? What happened on that thing? We really turned that that song and the record company like Charles We're like really what happened. We can't put this on really tape, you know, and so they made me kind of twist it up Turn it kind of different into a love story, but I'm going to my brother reveal. Okay. Okay, he's CEO ECO and the official mr.. Mother get the Years on y'all get a exclusive on this and this is the first time I ever said this man in a Boa boa boa just can't let go came about I fell in love with a woman and Greenwood, Mississippi, okay, I was living in Jackson, Mississippi and we was in love with each other and I Caught her up and then I play baby. How you doing and she's like baby. I'll tell you what and it was Friday She's like, I ain't got to work This weekend. So why don't you pack up some clothes and come down? We're gonna kick it spend time with each other Okay Let's do it. Let's do it. I'm excited. I'm so cool. She would man. I'm talking about going to the ring No, it's wide over my nose was so wide over Snot with a camera I got in the car and then got a ticket on the way burning up. Okay. Okay. What was that when you got that tea? And yeah, I do city, Mississippi boy Mississippi got me one time coming out Get you a little get you But so what happened? So by the time I get there, I never forget I checked in a hotel, you know Greenwood is the deltas. It's really country. Okay. So back then 25 years ago. What no Hampton ends and how are they ends? Okay, you had those little box Right down side of the road You can see everybody car because it's them a little colder side. I know exactly what you're talking about So it was What we got I checked in the room. You might can get it for two hours. You can get it My Arabian brothers, you know I was special the weekend I got the weekend special man and Discount from the radio station. Oh, okay Special nothing, you know, she came she called me and she was like baby My lunch break time, you know, why I come over and get you a quickie. Okay. Yeah quickie. That's I'm ready for you. I'm like ready for anything And she came over and gave me a quickie, bro And nothing enough buttons flying everywhere. Yes, sir juice and all kind of stuff So nothing, you know, when we get finished, you know, the first thing you do is go take a shower Yeah, yeah, you put on that look that little lotion. Yeah And that's a little bit about 30 minutes and a white folks condition Condition of a car the condition ain't really it ain't for us, but we we're looking at it But do you know I don't use a condition nobody use that I'm gonna tell you another story about it And so nothing, you know, we get finished take a shower put the lotion on man What you want to eat and I named the traditional things. Yeah southern boy like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. I got that I'm a go Back to work and nothing, you know, I'ma come pick you up. I'ma go home. I'm gonna cook for you. Yeah, okay No sooner later brush. She opened the door Here comes some big old dude Walked in the door 357 bro, oh Don't want to deal you don't want to see that. Oh my god, what'd you sitting on the bed or was it sitting on the bed? I'm waiting and I'm just sitting on the bed just waiting and the perfect you for the bullet to just do is yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just show your dance. Yeah And I was like he gonna kill me. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm just shaking and then at the same time trying not to shake So you don't show the fear that the fear, you know, yeah So I think he was kind of picking up that I wasn't showing the fear but in the side bro I'm talking about you you was nervous as ever about to jump out your heart about to jump out your chest How do I be my name that kingdom come you trying to get your You get that one right there All the way I'm gonna pay pay my tides You gonna do everything right And he came in Oh, yeah talking rough talking rough and he looked at me. What's going on? Me to tell you man, you know I'm saying and she wasn't there. She was in there. Yeah Oh, she was in there and I was like, I'm like, bro Both of us seem like we caught up in the situation. Well, we don't know what's going on How can you ask me that see see that you you you out of how where you from? Okay, but but but then you move got slicking with that That's why you learn that game, right? Okay Like I better really kind of go Alabama on him. Yeah. Yeah, and and get tough with him a little bit Yeah, and so I'm like praying. He's didn't shoot me Yeah, so nothing, you know, you can tell this girl Sex was so fine. Yeah, if it make you put a gun down he put it he put it down She said let's leave out of the room away from sir Charles and maybe I'll go talk to you. Oh I'll be damn. I said he probably didn't know what but he got you. She got him. Just like she got you Come to find out she just she was engaged to the beach everything and she calmed them down and And and and he said, oh, so this sir Charles though anybody long old pump. Oh, yeah, that hurt Listen man, that made it worse really nigga, nigga, you just can't let go. I bet my great-grandma How did you end up getting out of there and he walked out she calmed them down and he was like, okay Let's go talk and so I'm thinking in my head. I'm like this girl Really got to have some great sex to make you put a gun down and go out I'm like, dude, I could have killed you or caught the police and told him you just walked in and assaulted me Yeah, and he didn't care and she walked out first. Leave me in there with him, bro Wow, that's a ain't this bottle. She just walked out She had just had my control But she didn't have this much control the dude turned around and looked up. He said you think I'm a damn fool I knew But you talked your way out of it or she talked to me out of it like she she saved my life really and And he said he said you think I'm a damn fool, don't you and I said no I said, I think you caught up into a Shapped up situation like that. Yeah. Yeah. I said man, but I'm tired of all this shaking stuff. I said do what you gotta do, man Yeah, yeah, and he said he said these three really think I'm a fool on it and he pointed the gun And bro, I it's like everything went numb inside of me. Yeah, it's like I was preparing myself for you know Saying and and he said, but you know what y'all I just came let her go and walk And that's Wow, man, let me tell you a conditioner story. Oh, yeah, that just can't let go story That's a beast. Let me hear about this condition because I don't have no good. I know about the condition of the conditioner story Okay, one day It was me. Oh my kind of ham and calvin richison. Okay, he gonna kill me for telling us And we doing a big time video shoot and the video shoot started at my My mansion in Atlanta. Okay, so we was doing the first scene and nothing, you know Calvin didn't bring his lotion. Okay, and just so happened He was like, bro, let me get some lotion. I'm like, go look in my room and get some lotion He picked up my girlfriend's conditioner. I'm talking about done did this I got soap so it's all over his face Casper Let me ask you man, so so new projects man, what what's been the thing like wow, man We just did we did my new album entitled intimacy. Okay, and it's really doing well And I said now Children, I want to retire at 50. I'm 48 now. You want to retire. I want to retire. You know what blues singers don't retire They don't let me just tell you that right now. I don't know if you knew what you were signing up for I'm not a blues singer. Well, what are your rhythm and you trying to change? I'm a southern soul You do all what you would you can do it all don't blame it You do switch it up. I didn't see you switch it up Because you I was listening. I was waiting on enough I remember and I don't know you're gonna know the name of the album But after that that whole album that first one the next one You didn't even go back that right you went straight into uh, like a a rhythm, right? It was so it was more soul. It was more soulful Sure was and so like like that's kind of like getting a lot of patterns from like brother r kelly Okay, how he do r kelly always Wanted you to define his music as you don't know what I'm supposed to do Exactly, you know saying but just enjoy the ride, you know saying one minute when you thought r kelly was Do a bumping grind he did a bumping grind you've waiting on him to do another bumping grind out and this time r kelly he dropped a gospel Yeah, yeah Nothing, you know, he just went to the 1930s Yeah, but it was the objective for what he was trying to portray to the image of the audience was you shouldn't put a labeling On music period. Yeah, our music is universal. That's right. That's right. It's the way You perceive and take it that's exactly how you enjoy like we can't tell you how to enjoy a song Exactly because you might enjoy it in a different way than I exactly. What are you thinking about? You know, yeah, you might remind you of somebody or Take you back to A time where you was, you know, growing up with your mom and pops back in later earlier years or It might have reminded you of something yesterday It might have reminded you of some idiot that pulled over in front of you in the snow and you ready to show that it was One on one other. So that's how we've been trying to do What the music is release it And bring variety of cultures and music and let the audience enjoy it instead of dj's program directors record companies Picking what they want us to be, you know what I'm saying and trying to put a label on us You know, I'm saying it ain't it's like it's like it's a free. It's a freedom. It's a freedom That the audience had to write you like me. I never cut for radio Yeah, I never cut not one song in my life for radio It was like you knocked the door down I'm gonna be honest, which I felt like when it first jumped off for you like the older cats wasn't really accepting you They wasn't, you know, it was only a half you that really gave me blessings Like one of my partners wanted to go dj fresh. He came he said the same thing because I said, I got sir I got search all don't come in on he say, man, you know what man when that man first came in the game Man, they really was hating on they were hating but they just didn't understand They didn't understand because they felt like you probably was changing the whole situation changing the situation and like now It's starting to change again. You got new comers coming like like like big pokey. You got yeah He was in town just this right the Tucker's coming on board now And these kids got like a new different flavor of music like Tucker is A Cajun boy a lot of people don't know he's black. Yeah, well if you talk to Tucker right now He's got a Cajun accent and his music and his culture is totally a different thing. It's it's a swing vibe And at the same time he got this young face Yeah, just the way I did when I came out and all these women fall in love with it And he got this swing vibe and a Cajun voice at the same time with a little bit of 808 knock to give you a little With it in one big pot of gumbo and the audience love this boy. They love him to death, you know, and to me He can't say worth damn but They love they love him man and and The beats and the rhythm of his music man just mesmerizing and mesmerize you take you to a new orleans Lafayette Yeah type of southern soul field with a little chicago's two-stepping. Yeah outside of so the boy got Five different variations of powerful entity within him and he's going to grow and take over this scene Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you see another you can see it. You see yourself in the way you came in again and Tucker and The thing is I wanted to open up doors for him Okay to not to have to go through a lot of the hatred that I went through I don't think that was good for you. Don't something that was good It made me have some tough skin. Yeah, it made me have tough skin and it fueled me up to try harder, man You know saying and I just didn't want them to feel what I had to feel to get inside of because it was hard man and even breaking into Dallas, yeah It was a lot of people were saying Uh, yeah, I don't like that kid Uh, sir child John black dude meet me first Yeah, you going by Something that you heard somebody said I told them my mom always said assumption is the mother of all screw ups in life All right, no, I was saying you probably just Busting up a relationship and then it was hard for us to come break the Dallas market and we had to go to the streets Yeah, and really go in and that kind of like, you know what it should have never mattered about no radio and tv No way. Yeah, I'm for the rest of my life I'm going to service the fans and give them what they want and I don't care about cutting for radio No, I think I man listen, man, I think you did it right I'm gonna be honest with you because it's a freedom in it and people love you And they love and it don't matter They didn't put a stipulation on the way that they love you either and and that's why it don't matter even When you was when everybody else was dealed up or whatever it seemed as if he was independent because you was in a lane by yourself Right, I was in a lane by myself And record company didn't know what you were doing right? No, no, no, no, you was different blues You were different I play I don't care what you said they didn't know what to do with me a fan base and I'm going to work I knew what to do with him though and and jesson join my music He knows what to do with him. So I'm gonna let you ask some questions because I'm taking off. You know, I'm a fan I forgot you was over I'll just let you go No, because like I didn't know anything about blues or sir Charles or anybody until I came here to the states because I'm from Jamaica So when I came here and he introduced me he introduced me to you. First of all, yeah, yeah Then, you know, Johnny Taylor and you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I fell in love with blues. I'm like, yes, you did Hey, do it You know what I'm saying and they don't know it. It's relaxing. It makes you swing. It makes you dance It makes you change whatever mood that you're in. It can make you cry. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah It makes you laugh. It makes you I'm like, did they just say that? Like what? Yeah, you can't put it on at a certain time. You can't be going through something You're going through something Sometimes I'm gonna get you. It's gonna be a problem. That just can't let go. You put it on at the wrong time Something's gonna happen in your life You've been in love You can even take you out and make you stronger. Whichever one you don't do you got a stomach ache and you can't fix it And one thing I love friday and I love to put people on the spot Can you give me a little bit of friday right now? Come on with it, baby. Let me get it. Let me get it. Come on. Give it a little bit, man You are the workers that are working nine to five All right now Hey boy, that was good Boy, you went in man. Hey man, that man got it man. Say man easy, right? It's easy man. You know what I'm saying? It's a gift. It's a gift that guy gave me And man, I'm so thankful and blessed man I have for 25 years God has Blessed me so much man to you. Yeah The things these eyes have seen the things I've accomplished that they said A black man would never do. I'm like I accomplished it easy. Yeah, and I thought you was gonna make this hard Oh, man, that's what I'm talking about, man So you've always wanted to be a singer from always since I was a baby in my diapers You know I used to watch my mom and dad, you know playing on the piano and then my my my father Is a minister and my mother's a minister. Wow. And so I came up through the church and and and it was just Something that naturally was inside. How many instruments can you play? That sounds like a lot I would say everything I I can't play a woodwind instrument Wow, like saxophones and stuff like that but anything else if I pick it up I could pull a song out of it. So I was it male male waiters male waiters. That was my best friend I know you I I know you so how did you end up meeting him? And I know he was a big influence in your life big influence, you know saying like It goes it go back so far, man Like when male waiters came out And got hot male had to get the influence from somebody to a lot of people don't know male was a dj Okay, so music was already blessed and gifts inside of him And he opened up the door For me to be able to get into the system him and willy clayton Okay, gave me like willy clayton is the guy that gave me my actual break Wow, like when I came and I was like a local singer Back in Birmingham, Alabama singing at night clubs and stuff willy clayton just was visiting Uh to come go out and and see some of his friends and just so happen to see me and another two guys Background singing in a night club struggling and singing for 40 dollars a night. Okay, and he became as told as we was good And he'd be like, man, you know what I might got an opportunity for you brothers. I'm gonna take you guys, uh To meet mr. Marvin seats And I'm like wow I told you boy, that's what I used to get with it, man. Oh man, the candy licker the candy And and and when he took us We uh sang the song for Marvin seats and Marvin fell in love with our voices. Yeah, and invited us to Come sing on his album And we went to the world's famous fabulous muscle shows, Alabama. Okay to muscle shows studios if you get your history Every song that you ever see That's one of your classic favorites from marita franklin. The Wilson picket. Yeah To johnny taylor bobby blueplan clearance car to the south little milton Uh, uh, edda james. Yeah, like when you seen the calak records movie, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah All of them great hits that you seen holland wolf and and and edda james. Yeah, yeah Muddy waters and stuff all of that music was recorded at muscle shows studios. Really? Okay Okay, and this place got a history about it bro where It's a spiritual thing When you step foot in muscle shows You it takes off. It's like the bermuda triangle. Hmm when you go bro, you just You feel a peaceful Your heart rate levels out. It's like anything wrong with you starts to heal Okay, your ears and your hearing comes In a different type of mode you can hear The water in the stream A force of a mile here you can hear that che bird right here You can hear those trees blowing right there. Okay. Wow You can just hear somebody just curse somebody out Two miles that way. Yeah. Yeah. And for some reason all of this magnetic energy settles in this one little country city and Even the electricity the lights when you flick the light on in there the the light bulb Brightens up to a certain beauty Till where the magnetic energy of that electricity that just went through that current made that light Do what it was supposed to do. That's right. So all of that electricity and that energy when this man recall built muscles muscle shows studios All of that energy traveled through the circuitry of the equipment that he built and he built it with his hands and used that energy And everybody will always be like the record companies from atlantic records. Everybody would be like I'll sign this artist in here, but on one condition You got to go down to this little country town called muscle shows and I will not sign it unless you go down there and let them Record that music because you'll never get another sound like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go back to your johnny taylor's Yeah, yeah, and listen that He's gonna make me look right go look Let me look you're gonna be able to see the vault from stacks Where johnny did his music a lot and you're gonna listen that the vault From his muscle show sound that melaco gave him It's gonna. It's two different sounds and you're gonna see Like and it stacks like a lot of the mixes was thin That you heard when you see the muscle show sound you're gonna see the classy the big Johnny taylor where this guy with this beautiful sound comes out of her chest And they made his sound come out of his chest and spread and give you this multimillion dollar voice And stuff muscle shows just gives it to you and you loved it. You I love loved it Just to be able to do the background vocals from Marvin scenes and hear The potential of my voice come through that type of bled circuitry made me knew That this is what I want to do and I know how I was Well, this before let me ask you this and it's gonna be a little bit backwards What this was before you was working at that furniture store? It was round about at the same time So you were saying that the furniture store ain't going over there and going and doing the local gigs and working at the furniture store Kept my muscles that kept me in a body building status. I'm picking up Heavy couches every day. Yeah, and at the same time you can go to this night club And put your little vest on and everything and go out and be We making $40 a night, so we ain't making no money To pay your light bill from your singing So you better be trying to get that furniture store, right? The furniture store paid a little bit too But not enough to pay all of the bills. Okay. So what was the objective? Okay, I made a little bit money to get the light bill and this paid But I need to go make a hustle in the club To get the rent paid. So if I went to the club I took got my $40, but you better be flexing your muscles looking good And see if you can keep some of them cute girls. That's making them good paychecks Yes, sir Yes, sir and have you summon them to the side and that was your bread and butter You know that's how you kind of had to be a player a little bit and dapper definitely He says some of them not even just one of them, but some of them Some of them, you know, it was the thing back then So let me ask you a question. How Out of all the awards you've ever received, which one was your is your pride and joy my pride and joy I almost can answer that for you, but I'm a little bit No, no, no, I want you to do it because you you look great history. No, I was thinking about the bb king award The bb king award. No, it's my second. Oh, really? I could be there at first because I would have thought that would have been the one man bb king, man. Wow I met another guy the new bb king right a few weeks ago. So it's killing great soul, man And a lot of things I had that he taught me Is things that I'm telling you now. Yeah, yeah of my studio, you know studio and But bb was more of a He wanted to talk to you about life. Okay. He's gonna be like, hey, son. How you doing? He's gonna look at you first. You know what I'm saying? Analyzing you. You're studying You're um Taking care of your health That's gonna ask you that yeah pops. I'm taking care of my health. Um, you're putting any money away He's gonna ask you the politics side, you know him. He want to write tyron davis little milton They all asked his policy You better be talking about politics with them. They don't want to hear about nothing else They don't care about what? Awards you won this week. No, nothing. How are you off the stage? Are you taking care of your life? You know what I'm saying? Whenever I got in trouble That's crazy. I heard from little milton and whenever little milton And tyron davis called me personally. I've done something wrong Man, you got so much favor. You name any you name dropping something boy. You had you had a real real relationship When they care about you right they care about you and if marvin c's calls you you really done screwed up If marvin c's calls you on the phone and like uh sign First of all, how are you? I already know then He knows how he knows how like when he called me He didn't have to make a couple of calls up to new york or down to uh, roger redden's uh agency Which was our booking agent that books all of the the music for us To do concerts is roger redden's that's oldest redden's oldest brother. Okay. That was our agent And it still is to this day When he called when marvin c's called marvin didn't have to make phone calls And clear up some something that just happened terrible And usually I was wrong. Oh, no, no, no. I was a youngster. I was a youngster. You had to do it like that I did it and and and and it's it's awfully bad When marvin have to call you and you might well just be starting to thank him then Because he just had to go through some serious politics stuff to probably keep you out of jail Oh, man, I'll keep lawsuits off for a year. Yeah, or somebody's daughter Didn't say it's something bad about this or somebody for the kids or something anything, you know So whenever you got them calls from him or you got them calls from the other living legends like that, man You know, it was just good and bb king. I love to always talk to him That award Yeah, that's all he gave it to me The the bb king the bb king one with his own hands, but but which one was he number one? I thought bb king was but he said that's his number two My number one award is the sweet willy mitchell award. Okay. That's that's pop's mitchell Out of Memphis, Tennessee now Remember what you were saying about the muscle show studios? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Memphis Pop's mitchell got The biggest studio. Okay inside of mentions then that's responsible for your Your al greens. Okay and stuff and and he didn't want to discover al green And made all of these classic records inside of that studio. Wow. So me Coming up through the tool itch Of the Memphis sound I got a chance to know Pop mitchell's grandchildren. Wow, which Run the studio now. Okay, which is our boo mitchell. Okay, and They gave me the blessings to let me learn things about The way they actually recorded and did that stuff really Okay, they broke in never gave me the secrets. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So that's for I'm grateful grateful to pop mitchell. Yeah for opportunity the opportunity to touch this stuff You can touch an actual board that the rolling stones had and stuff and he would like touch it He would like oh and then that's interesting and he'd see that look in your eyes pop mitchell see that look in your eyes He's gonna sit down with you and teach you Wow how to operate that board he'd be like son up right here Was this channel? He said you see that cigarette stain right there? He said uh, al green put that right there or he might be like right here. Aberkeen did this right here and and uh, um like Certain stuff like see for that like how you got that entrepreneur hat Yeah, say if I threw that hat over there and you be like, you know, I'll never move that hat That's what he would do ever again Because you always want everybody to know that sir child jones actually threw that hat over there That's that's a legendary corner So man, you like wow ever king. This is it's blanket And here you know what I'm saying? Wow You be mesmerizing yeah, he take you through there man and let you See how they actually did this stuff and it trains you it makes your hunger more. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. And to know that to know I'm loved That nobody can ever take that away can't take it away. Hey, so I named you them put on me today Really, I mean all those guys I looked I now listen to those guys my entire life, man And and I'm talking about for you to be able to be able to connect with those guys. That's another level man That's a whole and that's that's inspiration in itself. Go ahead Did you oh, oh, I'm ready now go ahead I'm just gonna talk about the He liked to cook. Yeah, love it. See I'm ready over here. You know, I gotta invite y'all over Everything man, you know saying, you know, you must have a specialty though. My specialty is soulful Love it. Love it to death man. Love ox tails gravy macaroni and cheese. Have you ever had Jamaican ox tails? Can he cook man? That's how I make them. You see Don't don't just let him come on my show. I don't need that over here. No, I can't cook. I can burn You put money on him put money on it against me Are you crazy? We'll bring the dishes and and we'll we'll meet up at the end this girl correct I'm gonna learn this man. I know what we're gonna do. What we're gonna cook all Jamaican cuisines Okay, and you go and you go and you go and you're gonna beat me. I'm gonna smoke Oh, I like to hear this because I want to see this because I don't believe this nigga Here y'all the whole Jamaican department and I'm gonna hey and and I'm gonna tell Derek if you lose We bet not We can't come over there. Come on. Peter. Tasha's niece is the one who trained me How to make Jamaican food? Oh, okay To put the real things the real everything Jamaican. She taught you everything Jamaican We're gonna we're going down to the stew peas. We're gonna make it all we're gonna make it all from rum cake on down What is it? We're scared. We're nervous. We ain't never scared And my wife is not gonna back down to you because you come on this show with this madness And I don't know who that dude is over there. Take it easy on her if you want to see So so no American dishes. No American dishes no American dishes. So so do you Do you still Desire to do some work with uh dj quick I love that dude, man. I know but did you ever you never met him? I never met that He don't one of them pictures up there. Me and bro. Me and it was not that I put together You have earned the head. Are you serious table pal? I can figure it out dude dj quick, bro I know that everybody they they love dr. Dries and and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, they definitely love drape Special kind of talent. He's a special kind of gift, bro. He got He dj quick got that muscle shows thing inside of his body And everything that comes out is so electrifying and You like this sound hey what might I say poetic? How are you brother his funk The thing go live with man. Just he comes up with elements to Don't supposed to go together, but wow Put it together Man, I want to try to see if we can't reach out to that boy. Hey, man that I'd love to see Hey, I'd love to see you if I were you get a beat or something from him You're gonna be like this if I get a beat from quick bro. It's fit to blow up Like sweet you know, it's gonna go with it's gone. I don't gotta do nothing. Just saying you're gonna put that whip on I'm gonna put the whip on it bro because he gonna make sure the track covered You already know man dj quick. Oh man, I thought you had something in your bag But I got something else for you too. I wanted to ask if it was a couple of questions I wanted to make sure I got out You worked at french quarters for 75 dollars a night 75 hours a night That's where we were talking about where you come from the furniture store. You go to the french quarters and and it started at 40 a night and and The upgrade to 75 dollars a night you had really earned veterans What about what about um, it was uh It was something I was going to ask you about your brother frank and dunny and they still Still still looking like doing that thing like frank. Um, he retired with the marines and Something he'd do with um, you know, he'd be dropping them fed x trucks And stuff and so he went and got fed x trucks. My brother dunny do landscaping. Okay, and and Be on top of them houses cleaning them gutters and yeah, and and he man all around maintenance man You know and that helped me too in my time with my brother Showing me how to do that kept me kind of like in shape. Okay Hey, this is a pretty busy story Yeah, man, I mean, I think I think yeah, this is I'm gonna be honest with you man. We uh, we got a popular store Like the quality of items with you man and a lot of it been here for uh going on 15 years man So we've been we've been really really, you know, blessed to be here that long A lot of stores don't last that long. I admire it man because a lot of varieties of taste Yeah, yeah, yeah that you got there Like I don't see some items that you got here that I've seen people pull up at the grammy awards Exactly and have on and that's that's the reason we do it the way we do it is because Like I said, we want to have something selective Right and and we want to be able to put something one thing I didn't like about different stores was the fact of how one would uh See everybody else wearing the same thing So I what I do I limit what I get in a way that I can put it strategically That's what got me, you know, and so that's that's what we had so when I do it I do it to do it for you right or do it for you Yeah, so so because I don't want to keep going down the street and that thing You see the same dude And I've seen that two weeks ago, you know, I took that outfit and threw it away It's horrible. It's horrible. I'm like he got on the same one even the same size And we compliment each other because I love the customer service and I love to be able to tailor to you find out what you want. Where you go Like like I see how you you made me so comfortable. Oh, she was in there. You like you go You were feeding up like let me see what he liked and he was like, okay You like this kind of stuff and she started pulling stuff down. I'm like, yeah She's like don't worry about it. I'll write it down and When we fly out of here and come back, I'll bring Everything that you want. Yeah. Yeah, like, you know me. I'm gonna write. Don't show me none Just I'm gonna get it to you. Put the box on the truck I'm gonna make show, you know, and I'm pulling it out and putting it on and it's gonna rock. That's it, man Hey, so So what what what would you say? And I know you say it's some young boys in it, but what would you say? To a young person that wanted to get into the blues lane It didn't in today's right, right a brother way. He don't know he really don't he really don't have a way it's it's it's hard, bro to get into it First I will tell him to get a couple of books And study the business part like If you study the business part and tackle that first Everything else to start coming a little bit easier because you're kind of like know how to go open up doors for yourself Without closing the door at the same time. Sometimes you can you can walk up to a situation and talk your way out of it You know what I'm saying by not being unknowledgeable about How you supposed to enter the game with this thing, you know I'm saying the biggest thing in the industry is knowing when to shut up and when to talk. That's it. That's it You know I'm saying and when to be it humble, you know I'm saying and when to give a little bit of aggression You know I'm saying like certain things like when when my first artist Walked up to me and his name is bad news. Remember when she was like Yeah, I was getting him on the show And I'm gonna figure it out. You know, I love these young them the ones I like I'm the one, you know, this is what I do. So when he said next seat, I'm gonna flip on him And they went from blue. I want to see what's going on in his head He walked up on me, man and he knew How to be humble that's it and he knew how to talk and when not to talk and at the time He walked up to my was highly irritated. Yeah. Yeah, and I had just stopped drinking I'm my brother like me. I got this kid. I need you to meet. I was like, didn't I just tell you I don't want to hear nothing Right now and he he forced it on me and he brought him And he came in and then the kid came in and was humble and I'll never forget what some see He said to me just calm me down. And I'm like, I'm gonna see what you got man. I'm like, I don't want to hear no Hip-hop rap. Yeah. Yeah talking about no blues and yeah southern soul, man Yeah, I said, but I'm gonna listen what you got. So he played this first song And let me heard this beat that he did and it had Hip-hop mixed in with what I do. Wow That's kind of neat, but you still didn't want to give it up, right? I didn't want to give it up No, no, no, then you got to work and didn't have to come up and then just slide right on I was like, you got dudes to pay with me kid So I told him I was like, I'm gonna test him. I said, I'm gonna see how hungry or I said, I'll tell you what man Come back next week Bring me a thousand dollars. Yeah deal. Yeah. If you serious and I said, uh, I'll put up some vocals on it for you This my hook showed up back next week with thousand dollars. Boy. That's what I'm talking about. He's hungry. He's hungry And took me out to dinner and everything About the money with him. I was just wanted to test him. Yeah. Yeah. Was he really serious about it? So we I had already heard remember that beat he had played When he played the beat for me that that that prior week, I had already wrote the hook in my you already got You know what I'm saying? And we came up with this song about ride or die. Okay, and it's about He did a love story inside of the song of Really happened to me. I think he was he was talking about your girl I feel inside of the song that You know, she had been with him behind his Behind, you know, had his back all of these years throughout the times When he on the street was hustling and got off the street hustling and trying to take a chance at this music thing And you know, you just been there for me. You've been right at that for me And uh, so I came up with the ride or die thing It struck him like lightning and he and he just came up the top of his head and started spitting his testimony How he good he got it with his girl. Wow and bro, it blew up Over night. Wow And and we just released his album And he out touring now. Well, I can tell you right now. We're gonna get him on the show We got a day coming with me. I want y'all get him back over here because I got questions for you I got some real serious questions I want you to Buy the Alabama. I want you to I'll tell you what you better be ready when I put you up on this hot seat You know, I didn't have a few to come up in here and thought they had a conversation. I'm old man Hey, bro, I want you to go in. I want you to drill him brother one of them Yes, I want to know what he really knows about this rap because you better know some history about it That what's going on with this rap music and the blues. I'm not gonna play with it, bro Get him for both variations You don't want to come say he's dealing with it. I want him to drill So the thing I say about you, man, um, you you definitely blessed us man and and and and to be honest with you, man I'm looking for that new music anytime you can. I want you to keep that going. I'm talking about this retiring stuff I'm losing one But you know, they all do that. They all do that. I didn't come right back. Oh, they all do that They ain't gonna stay out alone. You know what I want to do? I'm gonna retire. My thing is what you're doing now You know, we talked about this. Yeah. Yeah. I love the podcast. Yeah, it's nice and I don't really got off into filming Oh, yeah, you oh you put some Hey, you dropped jewels on me. Man, like you you talk to talk because I'm like, how he know about this, right? You know, I really got it Man, I know you're killing it, man So I just thank god that that pretty much you you you're doing your thing, man You versatile you're able to change up. I was gonna ask you about being, you know That you came in the game and you know, uh, my space was kind of around and and then these Wait a minute. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm rocking with you, you know And and so we waving on up through my space and then bam, you know, facebook.com and what was the other tag? So so you remember tag the tag back. I ain't gonna tell you Because I got it I'm like I supposed to be on here Right now it's really out there bad Working for music and stuff, and I'm gonna hear me And it's like the love it's like a hot out right now You don't even know you're over there. Oh my god, but they over there and it'd be somebody right up under you know And she'd be like, wait a minute So what I'll go ask you so so how how was that transition into these uh social media waves? And is it something that that that that you feel is beneficial for what you do now? I think it's very beneficial. It's Being an older school head It takes some time to get used to that. Oh, yeah, you gotta work it like it at first. You know what I'm saying? And that's what moved me here to Dallas It's a company here called music access. That's a just distribution company. Yeah And when I met him his name is Robert Gonzalez. He's a uh, uh, latino-mexican brother Okay, and I'm like you don't know nothing about no blues, man And when he started doing like talking like me you name and all of the you know Grapes and the legends and stuff in his history. Yeah, and so I'm like This is weird, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, I don't know Yeah, yeah, yeah, so he's like Charles. He's like man if you came to Dallas That with the powerful entities that you know combined with what I know You will be a force to be reckoned with and then that interests me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Because I'm in Atlanta, Georgia. So I'm like Everything in Atlanta, you're gonna scrape and work for it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and right next door It might be next door one of these is next door. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Not here Yeah, you can go so much land and opportunity here to go build businesses and entities for yourself that nobody has And when I came here He wanted he was interested in my old school way of the muscle shows thing and And where I've been and how to tutelage artists And how to properly train songwriters and a team of engineers to properly give artists What he needs to go in the studio and come out with a And everything from artist development training teaching them how to talk. Yeah how to walk things to do things not to do Yeah, he was interested in that and I was interested in the fact that with his distribution company He knows about The twitters the instagram. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah the uh the the youtube video the video. Yeah, Spotify. Yeah He got direct master new york type of connections Directly with all of these entities. That's what I'm like. Oh my goodness. That's what you need. So I'm like I don't have to work so hard now. You know what I'm saying? That's what you need and he gave me those blessings He'd be like charles if you bless Us with what I need from you and come here to Dallas. I'll give you 50% of this company. Damn And he said everything is access to you. That's what's up guys. That's only god. You got a deal Yeah, yeah, you did the right thing I was just happy to get you to Dallas because I know now I got you here with me. Hey, bro Did you ever think you'd end up in Dallas never thought I would end up in Dallas always feel like this was just The greatest place to come visit and go home. No, no, no, we got an open lane here for you, baby I'm so comfortable here and it's great I started moving a lot of my businesses here. I moved the film company here. I moved the podcast We got two major studios here now. Okay, and I moved my food business here That was rough at first because when I moved the pandemic first started. Yeah, yeah, yeah So I got all of these concession food trailers and I'm like, man, you just bought Three of these trailers and just spent about 180 grand Yeah, and here they come talking about a pandemic and you can't put these trailers to work. So I got nervous And they still parked in a storage unit right now And never been fired up. Never been turned on never been cooked in Never been nothing. So I'm here as entrepreneurs Wanted to merge with people here in Dallas that could help me put those things to work and I don't mind breaking bread Call One of them need to be a Jamaican We got He owned the restaurant in california, but he's here and he's trying to do something He's good help with that. I got you. You god. Just put this together. Let's all Oh, what's going on? I could put that in the bank. Yeah. Yeah, man. Just sitting there when you see the trailers, man You're gonna freak out. You were like, yeah, I can't believe. No. No. No, we we about to work them trailers Let's do it. We about to work them trailers. You ain't got to worry about that. No mode. That's over with Now all we all I got to do is say the word and the brother on it. He's been doing it for 20 some odd years And he I don't got here. What's that? Chicago style polish sausages. See look this man be cooking We don't we don't we was in South town. We had some in there How easy that is to prepare And the biggest thing with restaurants is time time. Yeah, uh, how quick can you get these people? They food and get them up out of that line. So you keep fresh money coming. Yeah. Yeah polish Already being prepared. Yeah. Yeah over there. So by the time somebody come up and order the food It don't take nothing but 15 seconds to put a sausage and be cooking. He be cooking that time you walk to that side there I'm gonna hang your polish. Yeah. Get out of the way. So we can get we can get another we get more people in and those sauteed onions and sweet peppers And that butter sauce will draw in a smell, bro. You're nervous and draw people in. Okay I got a question since you're such a chef. You're nervous. Yeah. Yes. You're nervous. Say nigga I forgot about what you said. We're happy being where You can remember tasting a meal that you can never forget Tasting a meal that I could never forget like it was so mouth watering I mean it tantalized every taste bud in your mouth. Well, you know, he romanic with his cooking Since he's such a he's romanic Yeah, that's somebody else prepared Yes, yeah, because he's romantic with his cooking. Yeah, he wants to be the best, you know, everything he do But we got something for it. I would say I love margianos. I'm gonna celebrate like a touchdown when I run it on you, buddy What what what meal from I tasted a a veal parmesan Really that they had and it's good. I fell in love with it and I fell in love with that place And like like people don't know like veal everybody like man, it looked like a piece of chicken. It's good. Man. It's a baby calf You know what I'm saying? And they don't even know what they're eating, you know what I'm saying? And and like I would say margianos is like my favorite restaurant that I would love to eat in. Oh my goodness They got wonderful food. Do y'all got one of those here? Yeah, there's a nice house here Yeah, we gotta go hit that place up Let me just say man, we we definitely I definitely want to bring uh bad news Back on the show Hold on within them within a month or so. I got something I want to do for you too. So you got to come back with I'll come back with it and we I'm gonna have you something anyway. You got to come back. This is not far. No. No, no No, no, no from my home. Yeah, so so I got something set up and when and when I'm gonna set it up No, no, no rush out of track. No, no, we won't But what we we'll do whatever time Yeah, yeah, we're gonna work with you, but I gotta talk to this bad news and see see what's going on with it Oh, I'm gonna be researching man. That's what I do, but I definitely go ahead. Oh, you we still question I'll put a shutter down The last question Give me your top three artists that are alive Any genre any genre? Okay Top three Top three others your ears. They hear you know music better than anybody. Listen top three artists did all lie Frankie Beverly. Okay. That's your one. That's that's number one. Okay. That's your one earth-winded fire. That should do Clarence Carter Been too many years man, so man, so that's that was giving the number one again. That's uh, Frankie Beverly Earth-winded fire and Clarence Carter. Man, I like that man. I like that was the first three ever Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's the first time you know had a uh, uh, he don't want to call itself just blues because he ain't just blue He's southern. He's southern. She didn't know what to put on the fly. You don't confuse all the way southern So I said now go back and change it. Let's talk southern. So yes, man Say man. Thank you so much for coming on the show man. It was a pleasure, man And I consider y'all my new family. Hey, man, you gonna be back. Oh, and we still happy to have you I'm embarrassed your wife in the kitchen You can't be looking over my shoulder For some reason if you're looking over my shoulder I ain't gonna make that meal the right way because for some reason it self-consciously bothers it bothers you You know what I'm saying? Just go over there and just eat You got a pot or a pan or some food we'll do it right now. No, we gotta go Say man. Hey check it man. It's a unique hustle man boss talk 101 man. We out and we out