 Okay, Coach Papalizio, Coach's Convention, C3, you get to come in and show a little technique, talk philosophy. What's it like to impart philosophy on people and talk about how you run your system at NC State? Yeah, it's great to get out, share what we're doing here at NC State. It's sometimes the tricky topic because it's a thing where not everybody might believe in what you're doing or what you're about, and I think that's what makes, obviously wrestling and recruiting special is the kids have the opportunity to go to what they're attracted to. What's in our control is what we do, and I just want to share the word with these guys is what we do at NC State and how we go about things. Might be a little unique, might not be to certain people, but I think it's who we are and what we do and we just want to educate people on that. You're a super intelligent guy, drosier obviously. Thanks, I appreciate it. No, no, it's incredible to see the wheels turn with you and to see how you operate and so you talk to people. That's incredible to me, right? When I look at the proofs in the pudding, you guys took a trophy back to Raleigh, man. It's pretty incredible to me what you're able to do and how hard is buy-in for you? You got the guys, time against the first buy-in, right? Of old guys who were on the team, right? He's the last guy that stuck around with you. What's it like recruiting buy-in? What's that like to you? That was a huge part of the puzzle is to go out, create this culture. I was talking to Dresser about it. Obviously he is doing it again, he did it. And we were just talking about that whole thing is creating the culture and then reinforcing the culture. And it's a difficult thing to do. It's not easy and how you go about it, I think defines a lot of times is how quick your success can happen at the college level. Been fortunate enough to surround myself with great assistants and then obviously now these guys have gone out and are sticking around in our RTC and they're great role models that already understand our culture. So it gets contagious. Once you're around an army of people that think and act a certain way, that's what you become. So we want to continue to educate people and bring people in that we'll be willing to buy in. And it's a little easier to do now because I think people understand what we're trying to accomplish and what we're about. And there's always challenges to every level but at least kids knowing that NC State has a certain philosophy and mentality. That's starting to be great. Ask Tom Ryan this question, I see this question. He said Kyle Snyder is non-negotiable. He cannot let that guy leave. Barring the guy just wanting to be home, he can't change that but if it's a resource item, he's not letting that guy leave. It's Nick the same way for you in your RTC. Yeah, I think you look at these guys that are program builders. They're world title contenders which Kyle's obviously won, world in Olympics. Nick's working to do that. Those guys are extremely important to the recipe for success. And I think those guys are smart enough to know what got them to where they're at and why would you change a system that's already in play? It's a delicate thing to balance and if you're in this environment and you've had success, why would you risk leaving it? But at the same time, it's our job as coaches to make sure we take care of these guys and keep elevating their resources and make sure they're happy. And that's a fine balance because it's a working relationship and there's a lot of loyalty with certain kids and programs and that's something we have at NC State. I know at the end of the year, every time people are trying to jockey for position and get certain guys, but I know one thing in our program, guys are gonna find loyalty on both sides of the fence. Mike and Kevin, national champ, multi-time All-American and Kevin, those guys, those are guys we're talking about, that's RTC guys. What do you do with those guys and is that an all cost? Get those guys, keep those guys. Yeah, if someone does right for our program, we're gonna do what we need to do to keep them around and those guys have that mentality and philosophy and we wanna make sure we take care of those guys. But yeah, it was a lot of work this off season to put up a fence and say these guys aren't leaving. I mean, at the end of the day, I wanna make a statement and let people know that if you're gonna come and try to get somebody from NC State, it's gonna take them a lot. And that's good for wrestling. It's gonna elevate everything and these guys, it's the driving force for these guys to continue to keep training and puts a lot on us as coaches to make sure we keep bringing in the resources. But I want kids to know if they come to NC State long-term, we're gonna make sure we take care of them both, as far as accomplishments on their goals and then the financial situation when they're all done is to have them in play to where they can wrestle full-time. Two guys coming back for you. A guy took third as a freshman, a guy who was a runner-up as a freshman. Incredible, you know. Don't forget, Jordan Oliver plays easier too. You guys are just, it's incredible what you have coming back. How do you up the ante and go third, second, first? How do you keep going? New territory. So for me, it's something new. I'm gonna embrace it. It's a challenge. The year that we finished 11th, you know, we wanted to do better and we learned as coaches when we grew and we implemented some things and I think that's part of becoming a great coach is how you evolve from the mistakes that you made and become better and your athletes understand why you're doing certain things. So it's a lot of communication. Staying the course of what got you there. I think if you look at great programs, they all have something that they keep doing over and over and they add to it and that's something we're trying to do as well. But at the end of the day, the people that need to believe are the people in our room and they do and that's what all I'm worried about is the guys know that they can put themselves in position when individual and team titles. We're here in Florida, a lot of these people take some time in recreation with their family. Do you ever take any time off? I've never seen it, man. Yeah, go work out. That's what I thought. Up and out, we're gonna go right after this and we're gonna go get a workout and see who can out train who. Oh my God, do you relax at all, man? Just relax. You should get on the beach at all. I have not yet, but that's all right. We're here. Are you gonna do that? We'll work. There's another time to hit the beach. I don't know. You might get off to a pool for a little bit. We'll see. All right, what's next for you guys and going to Budapest? I just booked my ticket. I'll be out there for I think five days. So we have two guys, obviously they're going UW23 as well. So it's balancing that with some visits that we got set up. It's going out to the World Championships supporting Nick. So we're kind of all over the place. We just finished up. We do need to add a recruiting calendar into NCAA wrestling so we can actually, like you talked about, take some time to regroup. But in the meantime, we got bouncing. I don't think you have that in you at all. I don't think there's any regrouping in you, man. Yeah, a little training. That's how you get your mind right again. I don't know. There's a way to relax in that. And what do you guys start off with? What's the first thing friends in state like as far as schedule? Are you doing Italy again, by the way? Not Italy. I'm working with my brother right now for not this coming year, but the following year we're going to try to do another unique event to keep things. So internationally to go out and compete. I think it's every five years you're allowed to leave the country and say a rule. It's really a rule? It's a rule. I've like never heard of that. Well, you'll notice other teams, you know, the other sports, I think it's five years. It might be four, somewhere. But I know compliance-wise, you're only allowed to leave the country and do that so many years. So we have to get creative and we're going to find another place to do something. Hawaii. There you go. I did that event. I actually did that event. It was great. We need that. Our sport needs to keep evolving and be mainstream and be some kind of, you know, some kind of story to it. And our Italy trip did that and it also gave our guys an unbelievable experience that they can look back 20 years from now and have something to talk about. All right. You got to go work out or go spread the word. I don't know, go keep not resting. You got anything else for me? No, appreciate everything. Thanks. Hey, thanks for the time. Good luck to you guys. Thank you.