 While talking with Dr. Dohino Kupea, I was just wondering, he said something about square peg and square holes and all that. I remember one time when I talked about square peg and square holes with my son, the very young one, and he asked me, what of pizza? Pizza is always round in a box that is square. So I didn't know how to answer him that. What would you answer him? I would think that it depends on the situation at the time. Pizza fits perfectly in a square box. And you know, seeing what pizza is made for, you wouldn't really judge it for being in a square box. I knew you would have a perfect answer for that. It's pizza, by the way. Well, we've been joined by the one who was missing in action. We're talking about bio. It's very good to finally have you here. Did Lagos happen to you? Lagos happened to me. Since you say apologies to Uchi and yourself, and then of course to our esteemed viewers, I'm integrating slowly, and I'm learning a few lessons along the way. But I'm determined, you know, so I'm not going to let that get to me. I also enjoyed listening to Dr. Dohino Kupea. And then your analogy given by your son is quite apt, but I agree with Uchi. I think what is most important is as long as it fits and it works, I think that's the whole essence of having either a square peg in a square hole, or a round peg in a round hole, or even a pizza in a square box. Well, we still have a little more for you before we're out of the show, so I'm sure we're going to be calling our next guest, who happens to be joining us from Buja. Maybe you'll give us an insight to who the guest is. I'm sure viewers as well are quite expectant. Now, from Kogitu Lagos, from Bank Security Guard, to a national figure. That's their breached story of our next guest. His name is Obanago Ibrahim. Welcome, Obanago. I hope you can hear us. You won an award for an act done a few years back. When and how exactly did it happen? Ibrahim, are you there? Can you hear us? Okay, before he joins us, maybe we should still, some of the issues that Dr. Doi'n Okope raised. We talked about Muslim Ticket, the spread of the party. We didn't even talk about the manifesto and all that. But what were your various takes from all the things that he said? Quite frankly, I thought he was being quite forthright. For example, in talking about what the Labour Party was before they joined the group, the Peter Obi group and himself. The antecedents of the party, it's, you know, conducting previous elections. And what the Obi phenomenon has brought to that party today. I didn't see him talking as a typical politician there because I saw him actually admitting certain things. And that's why I said I considered him to have been forthright. I was making notes as he spoke. And I think perhaps maybe that's not a surprise, you know, knowing who Doi'n Okope himself is. Considering, and you rightfully gave us a background of his career in politics, you know, to date. So I think it's interesting to hear the perspectives of his candidates and the party. Alright, I think Obonago has joined us now. Can you hear us, Obonago? Hello. Good morning and welcome to... Good morning. Yeah. Ah, he's a Buddha today. Fine, thank God. Good morning sir. Good morning. Good morning, good morning. A blessing. So, thank you for joining us, Ibrahim. Which is your surname? Is it Ibrahim or Obonago? Obonago, Mohammed Ibrahim. Okay, so what would you like us to call you? Obonago or Mohammed? Yes, you can call it together. Obonago, Mohammed Ibrahim. Okay. Anyway, so, Obonago, Mohammed Ibrahim. Exactly, exactly. You won an award for an act done a few years back, okay? Can you just tell us how that happened? What exactly was all this about that resulted in you now being given an award? Thank you. Good morning to everyone in this studio. Good morning to everyone else. Like I said earlier, my name is Obonago, Mohammed Ibrahim. At the time, I was in security with the United Bank of Africa, UBA, at Ikeja branch or background in Ikeja. So on this fateful day, I was on my duty post where I found a lost $10,000 at the gate. And when I picked it, I went to the office and I sat in it too. And like you know, as a security person, so a lot of thoughts came on me. And I said, okay, I am one person that I've been talking about good governance, about uprightness and all that. So I stood up immediately and returned the money back to the bank manager, the bank operation manager then. Mrs. Ojule is her name. And she was surprised and said, Obonago, this is money. Where do you pick it from? I say from the gate, ma. And she said, do you know this is money? I said yes, ma. And she was wondering, you know. And she now said, okay, drop it and go. I dropped it and I went outside back to my duty post. So in the short while, I saw a man coming from Ikeja on that bridge and he was crying and approaching me and said, my brother, I lost money but I don't know where I lost the money. In the man's voice now I am speaking. I said, okay, try and go inside the banking hall. Maybe you go and ask. When he was going, I was laughing. So he went there and when he was crying and he told them that he lost his money that actually I collected the same money from here. That he actually collected $84,000 from the bank. So it was when he was going that $10,000 lost out of it. And when they told him that one of their security person here picked it and returned it he fainted immediately in the banking hall, you know. And that was how it is. So a mail was sent to a UBA headquarter at Marina. And Tony Elumelu got to know about it. And they were so happy, everybody was so happy. Tony invited me at the time in 2016, you know, and he celebrated me at a co-hotel then. So that's how it is. And today, the president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria now found me worthy to bestowed on me a national honor. That was on 11th of this month. Thank you for that background. Now, as a security guard in a bank, many people would actually want to know how much you were earning. At the time you picked and returned those $10,000, which is about 7 million Naira now. How much were you earning then? It was 30,000 Naira. A month. Oh, yes. Wow. It's incredible. It's really a man of interest. But one thing is this. That was not the first time anyway. And I think that's why a bank now said that it's like he's getting too much. I have picked 100,000 Naira from the restroom in the bank and returned the same. Same was 50,000 Naira, I returned it. But I picked it from somewhere close to a counter somewhere there. I returned it. So it was not the first one anyway. Okay. Now, what did it feel like being given a national honor by the president? I'm sure your family, your friends have all been congratulating you. What is it like being the recipient of a national award? I am fulfilled. And I will tell you one truth here. Since that award, whenever I am hungry and there is food before me, I will find it difficult to eat with that food. And that's the fact. Why would that be? I am so happy that sometimes I feel, I don't just know and that's the fact. That's the truth about it. So I am so happy. I am so happy. With the level of calls, messages coming from left, right and center, even across the world, from other countries of the world, people are calling me and they are celebrating me. I think it's a joy and I thank God for that, really. Okay. I wish we had more time to talk with you, but we're hoping that one day we will have you live in the studio here where we can ask you more questions and then, you know, have a sense of belonging, as they say in Nigeria. We are talking with a national awards winner and all that. So thank you for being who you are and we're hoping that you're going to encourage other Nigerians to do the same. Thank you so much for being a part of the show. Thank you very kindly. I must do it for you. Okay. Okay. That was Obanago Ibrahim. Obanago Ibrahim. He said we should use the three names together. All the names. Like Fashola said the other time, that may our loyalty not be tested. May I, even as a person, never get into that situation. I don't know if I will behave like Obanago or not. 30,000 naira and then you're picking something of 7 million. I wonder how many years of salary that could have covered, but he still did the needful and returned it to the appropriate causes. You know, it goes to show that no matter how terrible Nigeria as a people, Nigerians as a people have been painted, you know, negative out there in the world, there are still the really good eggs, you know, I missed and we just need to harness them and, you know, make them believe that there is honor in being, you know, accountable. There is, there is, you know, kind of, you get to earn what the fits you for being, because when you hear a lot of young persons speak, I mean, when this happened in 2016, I guess, a lot of people were of the opinion that he returned. Yeah. Are you well? I was going to say that people actually took him for a fool, but I mean, look at him today, look at where he is. Yeah. From that moment, he sees being a security guard, the honor was great and some things came to him and then his life changed for the better. Well, and he was younger than this. At the time. Yeah, younger. He's below 40 even now and at that time he was quite young. That means people like his sister are still good in this country. There was another one at the airport, who pits like $12,200 and returns same. So, I think it's good. I mean, like Uche said, we have Nigerians whose conducts, you know, has been symbolized by what Obanago Mohammed Ibrahim has done and the person who returned the $12,200. And I think that it was safe to encourage more people to be honest. He did that. He can sleep. He's more relaxed. Yes. If he's taking what didn't belong to him, he wouldn't be at peace. He wouldn't be at peace. Absolutely. Okay. Let's just take a short break, very short break and then see if we can get our next guest to just wrap it up. That will be like three minutes and all that and then the show will be up.