 I think an oak is a wonderful memorial tree because usually when we're thinking about memorial trees we're looking for a species that'll be around for a long time and it's also very symbolic as most trees are because we grow from a small acorn which is a very recognizable symbol of the seed and oaks grow to such a large majestic size and so you know kind of the mighty oak and so I think it's a wonderful symbol and also we have to remember we don't plant trees necessarily for today but we plant them for future generations and this is a species that could be around for future generations and serve that memorial purpose that we hope it will be to remember something that has occurred in our past. We could probably expect you know multiple decades maybe a century there's a lot of space out here this tree's going to have a lot of space to grow both below ground above ground it'll probably end up having a very full beautiful canopy this species is known especially when it has lots of light have kind of almost a lollipop shape to it and so we could expect it to get 60 maybe even 70 feet tall with probably a crown spread of about 50 plus feet.