 Sir, we are live now, please start. Yeah. Good evening one and all. Give me immense pleasure to introduce two bright young minds from the IBM ESC program, Satyam Prakash and Rishikesh. They are the first prize winners in IBM's call to coach the global hackathon. What is interesting is they have taken up a very real life problem that affects everyone. And they have tried to find a solution that integrates both hardware and software. And what they have also done, they have just gone beyond prototyping it. They have tried to participate in a community-led initiative to collect data and see how effective this solution is. So to talk more about what their problem was, what their solution is, how did they go about implementing all this. I have Rishikesh and Satyam here with me. I will go with alphabetic order. So Rishikesh, I would want you to introduce yourself to all those who are watching this session. Yes, sir. Thank you very much, JK sir, for introducing us and even our project. Well, I am Rishikesh Bandari. I am from Goa. Currently, I am doing a degree in programming and data science at IIT Madras and also pursuing product design from a university in Paris. I am also having a diploma degree in Frontier Technology and Data Analysis from Skoltech, Russia. And I am more into understanding human and machine interactions and how we can make both interaction in both ways in a better and data-centric manner. And due to this interest, I have been into STEM since my high school and working on a diverse product line which includes assistive tech, clean water and sanitation and automobile safety and many other. Along with Satyam, I am also working in a startup called TechXL, full-time, where we are all working towards all these products every day so that we can get it immediately in the market. Thank you, Rishikesh. I think, yeah, I mean, that itself would have, it's a mind-boggling resume to start off having the kind of affiliations and the kind of projects that you're involved in. Fully fantastic. Let me get this, yeah, let me pass over the floor to Satyam also. Satyam, can you introduce yourself? Namaskar. Thank you so much, JK sir and ITM faculties for having us here. It is a matter of pride for all of us to speak on this platform. So, hello, everyone. My name is Satyam Prakash. I am a foundation level at IT and BSc degree program. So, I've been working in this project, a software project as a hardware developer. I moved into Internet of Things and getting solutions for daily life problems. So, particularly, I've developed hardware solutions. So, that is my area where I deal. And Rishikesh is the one who goes for, you know, the software part of that product. So, I've been working with Rishikesh from now, I think it's more than four years now. So, together, we have worked on various projects. So, SAP Auto is just one of them. We have made devices in Mettech in automobile sector. And, you know, we are also looking forward to make more such devices in the upcoming future. Apart from the SC degree program, I am a student at Delhi Technical Campus, Maharshi Dhyanand University in Bahadurgarh, Haryana. I'm a second year student in their Btech computer science engineering. And yes, this was all about myself. Thank you. Yeah. So, I think, I mean, now most of the people, you have all of you have like multiple taglines to add to you. And I'm feeling like, okay, I am just part of it. I don't have anything else to tell. But I think the point now is, tell us about call to code and your journey in call to code. And specifically, what did you do? I think that's where it should start. Please go ahead. I mean, you can take turns and explain specific portions. Sure. I'll explain the story so that we understand why call for code, why Southwater. And then maybe September can explain what Southwater is. So this, we all the entire journey takes us back to 2018, October when we were in high school. And we were selected for ATL Marathon top six. We were one of the top six teams of the ATL Marathon. And because of that, we received an opportunity to intern at IBM India. It was a part of the high school internship program by IBM India and DTIO. Where we went across many different learning phases like design thinking, corporate etiquettes, how to, how corporate deal with communications, communications over there, how projects are managed at corporate levels and all everything, each and everything about corporate and the corporate work, the projects at corporate level. Here we saw while all the sessions and while all the work hours were going on, we encountered a couple of developer advocates out there who were wearing a call for code t-shirt. And this was the inaugural call for code program, the first call for code program in 2018. And I think at that time, Project OWL, which was the first call for code winner, was announced. And when we asked them what the t-shirt was all about and all, they explained us the entire call for code competition, how it's not just an hackathon where price is given and left over, but rather IBM and other partners take it ahead to deployment and then converting into startup and all. And then we were amazed with what all they said including the journey of Project OWL in Puerto Rico. And this inspired us in the sense the five of us who are there in TechXL as well as in Team Southwater to participate for call for code. But there was a catch that time. We all didn't turn 18. We were like below 18 and the eligibility was strict 18. And that's when we decided maybe someday when once everybody turns 18 is above 18, let's participate. And that's when the call for code, the need to participate in call for code started. Later on, because of our common interest myself, Satyam, there is Jaya Haierkar who is from Pune, Sanket Marathi again from Goa, Manikanta Chavakulla from Hyderabad. We all teamed up due to our common interest in problem solving and solving grassroots challenges. And we teamed up to form a startup called TechXL where we worked on various product lines which will again we'll mention later on. But yeah, this includes assistive tech, agriculture, automobile and many other domains also. This kept us bonded. Now coming to why Southwater is let's get the timeline to now December of 2020 where me, my entire family, my mother, my brother and myself, we travelled to our native place in Karnataka. And my mother consumed accidentally contaminated water which was sourced from a public groundwater source. We weren't aware at that moment but when the severity increased and it became more fatal, we approached the doctor and the doctor to test the water. Once the testing at our end in Goa was done, it was hypothetically concluded that it was possibly due to the village groundwater source because once we tracked out there was no other source that we found to be consumed. And at that moment as we all know, we were unknowingly consuming contaminated groundwater. This resulted in a three month fatal journey for my mother as well as our entire family. And once the entire medical process was completed in the hospital and we came all together and we discussed on this problem. Like this had happened and it took almost three months for the treatment to slightly settle down and the entire treatment goes along for more than two years. And that's when we decided let's design something, let's design on SOS, some system that will regularly monitor groundwater and prevent any fatalities like this by forewarning not just to the authorities but to the entire community. And that's how soft water was bought and the best part was call for code was just announced. And that time all of our team members, our youngest team members that is Jaya Irkar, he just turned 18. He completed his 12th grade soon going to even join IIT and BSE most probably. And he turned 18 and yes, so we thought let's participate because alone if we go it will take time for us to get it deployed, get it into the market and get more and more deployments and scale it. So we felt like we need partnership, we need the resources to accelerate its development and that's how that's why we selected call for code. We work for another six months and then again the results have come and surprisingly on 17th India time at five o'clock it was announced that at New York it was announced that soft water is the global winner of call for code global challenge 2021. And now we will be partnering with IBM, UN, the Linux Foundation and some and the other partners who are involved in the call for code challenge. Yes, Satyam, over to you. Yeah, so I mean before Satyam takes up, I think it's Raj Kumar Hirani is somewhere watching this YouTube broadcast. You have the script for the five idiots, I hope you listen to it. I think it's a fantastic thing and yeah, you can make five idiots or any. A lot of these things, something that is like a very much cut out for a Bollywood film and it's absolutely fantastic. It's great, I mean I know about Project Out because it's that law of disaster. Yes, it was a fantastic project. I mean I would really want to see what the soft water device is. Satyam, please demonstrate for the viewers. Yeah, so thank you sir. So before moving into the project description, I would like to share something, you know, so that everyone get better picture about our problem statement. So after this unfortunate incident happened in December 2020 with Rishi Kesh's father, we all five teamed up and you know, we started researching about this problem. And you know, we look for various generals, we look for various research papers and at the end we were very sure to know that 50% of the entire world population depend on groundwater for their daily needs. Not only this, data published by WHO and UN, sorry, UDSF tells that 1 in 3% globally don't have access to safe drinking water. And why it is so, it is because of groundwater sources. So this is how the big the problem is, you know, this is a problem that is not only limited to the native place of Rishi Kesh, neither in Delhi, it is one of the global problems. So, you know, when it comes to build a solution for that can address this global problem, it becomes essentially to get the support from community. And, you know, and from people from various part of the world, and it also becomes important to open source the project so that other people can also contribute. So these are some points that, you know, pushed us to take the idea of safe water for call for food because, you know, not only after winning CFC, even the projects who do not win CFC, they remain in most of them remain in open source and, you know, contribute us around the world can come and contribute for them and for their cause. So yeah, these are all the reasons that basically motivated us to take the idea ahead for CF, call for food. So talking about the soft water project. So I would like to start with the description. The soft water platform consists of two units hardware unit and the software unit. So yeah, hardware unit is something that is placed near the groundwater source and it has the sensors that checks upon various water quality parameters. Maybe Rishikesh, you can just flash that hardware on the screen. This is the soft water hardware. It's a cellular enabled low power consuming device which checks for various water parameters which Satyam will be explaining soon. So this is the soft water hardware. Yes, thanks Rishikesh. So, you know, sensors are attached to this hardware box that checks upon various water quality parameters. Phdds are some of the mentions. And once this data is collected, it is sent to the IBM Watson platform through the help of internet. So that's how and thereby our AI ML model and software part comes into action that further takes on the work. The aim of our project is to educate or make the water quality information accessible to the users. Basically the users who are dependent on that particular groundwater source. So to make this happen, we have developed three ways for making this information accessible. We have a user-friendly dashboard that is present on our soft water. And we have the on-site visual indicators. So you know it is attached on this hardware box only. So the ring, this is which you can see here. This is a new pixel LED ring. So based upon the water quality, it glows. You know like right now, we have colored put it. Suppose the water is safe for drinking. So you will see green color light blinking on. And suppose the water quality was and not fit for consumption. So you will see red color light turning on. So apart from this, those people who don't have smartphones or who don't have internet, you know, they can also avail our service. So we have a provision of SMS based communication system. So you know, we send SMS. We in the sense the system, the support of platform sends the SMS about the water quality. So this was one thing like, you know, making the water quality information accessible. But what to do after that? You know, but people might be looking for the various methods. You know, like we come across the instances where people have limited where the water supply is limited for particular time of the day. So in those cases to make that water for fit for consumption, you know, we also prescribe various purification methods. Suppose if we found that water has some cloudiness in it, we can easily overcome that using some basic filtration method. So we also suggest these methods to the users. Ishigesh, now you can go ahead. So the, as even Satyam actually almost answered the dashboard side of you also. I'll just put Sarpwater in a very simple short form. Sarpwater is an AI IoT platform that uses different IBM services to timely monitor the groundwater and inform and for one about any anomalies to the community and the authorities, along with the most appropriate purification methods. It also is capable to predict any seasonal anomalies and with both of these features. It completely reduces the dependencies on time consuming test kits and laptops because generally what happens is people are everywhere people may be closely located or maybe they may be isolated in terms of their settlement. Especially in isolation and places where geographically the reach is very difficult. The purification methods plays a very important role because we're just saying that the water is bad doesn't change or doesn't solve the problem because again they have to look out for some alternative and when geography is a challenge, it becomes very difficult. And that's why our software platform, depending on the water parameters and the inference made by the machine learning model, it will automatically inform the users the most appropriate purification method, which can be achieved domestically. So all this in one platform. It's a plug and play platform. Once installed, it will automatically check for various water parameters. Learn with the data that it's taking and also look out for patterns in the past data as well as the real time data to make anomaly prediction and water quality assessment for physical, chemical and biological contamination. Yeah, so this whole thing happens in ideal case scenario. Now suppose our software product is installed in a place where there is low internet connectivity. So at those instances, if the internet connection fails, our device is capable to calculate the calculations on site and it basically can predict what is the water quality at that point of time. So till that time, the source we also have this backup system all prepared. In fact, our device is capable of completely operating itself offline. Because again, we cannot expect connectivity always. Electricity also is a major challenge but still again it can be tackled with some battery backup and all. We are using tiny ML to do the predictions on site although purification methods very difficult on site but we can at least inform the users keep hold on the water is not that good. We can do we can we can wait and do it do something better. That's how it is. Okay, so I mean, is there is there some way which you can show me the working of the device? I think that's that's also something I mean, even even a video of how the device works. If you have it, can you share it? I mean, it could be just a few seconds just so that I saw the hardware device. I see that there are there is a ring. I hope the light will come over there. Yes, sir. Satyam will show you the demo. In fact, we are posting our updates on YouTube. Because again, this is an open source project. And we want our community to be informed. What's the progress? The transparency of the development process everything. Yes, Satyam, over to you. Yeah, thank you Rishikesh. So I'll share my screen. I'll just brief the context of the video. Here we have visually and by taste, both the water seems to be normal. And it looks like it is drinkable portable. But with soft water hardware, we'll see what happens here. Yes, Satyam, go ahead. So these are the two samples that we have. Oh, I see the green light. So it means that this is a working, I mean, good thing, right? Yes, sir. As of now, we haven't implemented the loading animation. We'll soon do it with the help of community. That's where we will be even requesting people who can contribute towards this. Please contribute towards the soft water hardware on the loading animation. Okay, you can see this sample shows green, which means the water is fit for drinking with basic purification methods. And it will also reflect on the dashboard simultaneously. Okay. So I think further which actually tells the different parameters. Yes, sir. Satyam, can you take it forward on the other sample? So we can see that I'm not doing anything with the probe. I'm not even cleaning the probes. Thanks to machine learning and detecting data, past data, it helps us better understand or better classified if there is any outliers or anything of that sort. Okay, so now the, yeah, okay, I see the red light. Okay, so it seems that this is absolutely not good, right? Not fit for drinking. So, I mean, does that circle have any significance? Like, okay, if it is like a 50%, 75%, then go up in circle, half circle, is there any significance like that or it's just an indication that it's bad method, right? Yes, sir. As of now, it's just a static indication. But in our roadmap, we do have plans to integrate purification methods on the device itself. So where we'll be doing half circle, four circle, and even the intensity of the light. We are again working on the user interaction point of view also, because you will need education. And again, logistics also involves when there is education around, because we'll have to educate even the person who is not tech savvy or not even using a smartphone or a feature, or maybe using a future phone. So that's how we'll have to do that. Okay, so this is the IBM Watson interface where it shows we've got connected and you get an SNS alert all those things, right? Yes, sir. We've used Twilio and our backend is completely no code as of now, no code, no code system, which allowed us quickly prototype, quickly reiterate and quickly integrate different components. One of them is Twilio SMS service where we quickly integrated and we built this subscriber component in our dashboard where people can subscribe their number so that if they don't know how to use internet or if they have a feature phone, they can get alerts if the water goes bad. Okay, so for the, I mean, let's say the less educated mortars like me, can you tell me what does no code mean? Yes, sir. In fact, today, yes sir, yeah. So in 2021, in fact, this started in 2018 itself, where technology is used to design different, where technology is used to get people on board to use and create technology. This includes application, websites, machine learning, AIML. I'm sure, sir, you have you heard about Wix WordPress and all. Okay, so I mean, yes, I know what the no code movement is. I mean, I'm just putting it out. So here, I mean, I have a follow up question to that. So I'll keep it parked for you. So there are, why I asked this question is there were a lot of, so we had put in a Google form where a lot of people were asking how to go about coding, how to go about certain hardware things, how do you learn, how do you do it? So which essentially means that some of your interfaces, you actually don't need to understand how to code. I mean, it's almost like you assemble stuff and you know what, which parameter comes in there and you just ensure that there is something for that, right? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So you know, I would like to add here that these no code platforms significantly reduce the time in prototyping and product development. So this is one of the major advantage, you know, that is pushing the developers to go with no code platform. For others who want to experience what a no code platform is, bubble.io is a classic example. There are several such platforms like that, that provide you free credits to experiment. Look, I mean, and also they have samples and other things. In fact, Google, if you are a GCU user, there is something called Google app sheets, which actually helps you connect with all the Google services and build a very simple application. So yeah, it essentially means you don't need to know how, what exact coding is, but you need to understand what the context is, where the data is. So no code does not mean that you have to be absolutely, there is some knowledge required. But essentially the amount of lines of code that you type will be there. Right? It completely cuts down prototyping time where we like if something is not working, we used to Google and find out how to ask people. Here we did not. It's simple to get on board, rather we focus more on the research development and research design and the user centric part of it. Okay, so I think the application development team of the IT and VHC degree program may ask, okay, now why are we teaching you at this, right? But I think that question can wait till the end of this. Yes, sir. So when we come into our time, some of the important things, I was noting down certain things, I mean, a couple of important points that I noted is, I mean, the personal thing would have triggered it. But I think there was this tinkering, this idea of tinkering and working with the hardware of software right from early and you are talking about tinkering labs. I mean, this is something that started from school, right? Yes. And there are, you were three other partners, how many more are there? Three other. Yeah, so three other partners who are unfortunately not here with us today in this session. But I think all of you share this common passion for tinkering, right? That's what blew you and there is this commitment towards the social or more, I mean, what do I say, a community kind of service that really, I mean, I see, I mean, you didn't stop, I mean, you didn't do it for your groundwater. You wanted it to be used for community and you're also open sourcing it. Can you tell us a little bit more about these kinds of initiatives? Where can you find these kinds of initiatives? How do you search for it? You said you started with a shirt. So this was in 2015 and everybody has to be 18 years or older, right? So where can we find out such mechanisms? Yes. Some possible hints for students? Yeah. So thank you so much, sir. So I would like to say that, you know, we all fight what is our photo team, but part of a tinkering lab. And yeah, that's how we started our journey. So talking about how to search for problem and how to hint for problems. We can find the most of the problems in our environment. But, you know, what I suggest to everyone else as well, there is a start on the startup India portal, there is something called as idea bank. You know, government of India regularly posts about various problems coming that they come across and basically they put it in the public domain and ask the public of the India to build solutions for them. So it is also one of the very good source from where enthusiasts, people care, you know, people with you know, innovation mindset can go and look for the problems. Secondly, when we go for the development and prototyping time, it becomes essentially important to have a significant amount of data that can help us to them. So data.gov.in is one of the very good portal by the government of India. So, you know, I will say it is the ocean of data. There's so much data available on that portal that, you know, that people can use. In fact, during our recent developments in the soft water platform, we look for some data available in the public domain. So, you know, that also helped us to get to this level. So these are some of the sources that I highly recommend to the individuals. Yes, Pishikesh, maybe you would like to. So I have some more resources out there also for finding out for looking out for opportunities and all. First thing is we'll have to, the best part would be is first we observe for different problems that we face, because we've tried different competition, we've failed also. But what clicks in the judges mind is something when you face it and when you know it better. Sometimes it can be passed on from some person to the other. That's also fine. But be very vigilant, be very observant to what's happening around. If the problem is not faced by you use different design processes like double diamond designing design thinking where we emphasize our user rather than what technology we want to use. Once this is done, there are many sites like all the default years now more into blockchain and all. But definitely there are different hackathons coming up on Defolio. There is announcement pages of different institutions and different competitors, different organizations all around the world. We'll have to slightly look out for that them manually or sometimes they come as advertisements. But yeah, we'll have to look out for announcement pages of institutions, corporate world all around the world. And in fact, UN is also into more into sustainable development and sustainable innovation based competitions where they put it out on different platforms. Not just one single platform, but different platforms partnering with different partners. So a couple of suggestions would be even like even on Instagram that way if you Instagram and Twitter, Twitter in fact is a great tool. What I feel if we try to like follow people if you try to make a thread in a specific interest that we want to we get better feeds automatically from Twitter. So Twitter is also a great platform to connect to look out for opportunities and to also collaborate to become bigger. And this is what I would say it's more of like we looking out but before that we must have something in mind. Because ultimately what wins is something that is that is user centric, something that is made for the end user, not just like adding technology. Blockchain is required. If really the user requires if really it matters to the user, then we have to do that. That's what is going to help. In fact, technology wise if we go to see Southwater is not that trending but Southwater has tapped into the right problem statement. That is why what we believe like Southwater has made it through this. So as you said Rishikesh, first it is very important to empathize. What it means is we have to keep ourselves centric towards that problem. We have to feel that how the sufferers are suffering on a daily basis through that problem. So that's how it can help us to develop a better solution for them. And one thing that is very good about our BST degree program is that there is vast majority of learners. Someone doing engineering, someone from social studies background, someone from humanities and what not. So the major advantage that we can take it is let's start talking to many different people across the degree program and share their thoughts. So that's how I'm sure we can bring amazing ideas into action. It's more of like opening up, be observant and collaborate and strive for every opportunity that we get. I'm at loss of words because what you guys said is profound. You shouldn't use technology for technology. Technology should be used if it requires the technology solution to be possible. I can't even say anything else beyond this point. Fantastic. But yeah, now you talked about IIT and PST program. So for all the learners, all the viewers who are doing this, IIT Madras has started a BST degree program in programming and data science. Reshikesh and Satyam are students in, are you a diploma now or are you still in foundation? I'm almost at the end of foundation, both of them. Yeah, so both of them are at the end of foundation level of this particular program. The foundation consists of eight courses. Then in diploma, you will have another set of 12 courses, which one diploma on programming, one diploma on data science. Then you move on to the degree level where you have four and electors to complete a degree. All of you, you are doing X times of work than what we are doing. We are running one program. You guys are learning something. You started a company. You're doing a different number of competitions. So how do you share about IIT and PST program? That's the first question that I have. And why did you apply for it? Yes, sir. Maybe Satyam, if you want you can go ahead or else I'll go. Okay. Reshikesh, please go ahead. Okay, fine. So the IITM BST degree was first introduced by my mama, my mother's elder brother. He introduced me once it came into the news. We said directly, I go and apply. It's a great course. When I exploded, it was definitely a great course. Initially, it was a little bit skeptical as to how online would be possible, how the entire course will be laid down and all. But later on, when I looked out at IITM site also, the IITM AC.in, even in that site, there were many achievements that IITM has achieved. Not in terms of only just awards and all, but in terms of breakthroughs that they have brought both in education as well as in the field of research. And that's what gave me the confidence like, let's apply. Let's see what happens. And that's why we applied for IITM. So when did you apply? Did you apply in the last October batch or did you apply? The first foundation, the first, I'm sorry, the first qualifier. October, the October race. Yeah, so I mean, so we started it right in the middle of pandemic. Everyone was locked up. Yeah, so yeah, then so I think how so you took up to this is almost your third term that you are doing with us. And you will be completing the foundation level now. And so I believe you have one more of your friend who has just turned 18 and who is planning to join the program. So tell me about how was the qualifier? For all the viewers, IITM BSE program does not have any requirement like JEE. We have a qualifier exam, but for that qualifier exam also there is a part-month preparation time where we hit the cloud. So the course exactly is laid out for you. So you can actually go through the course, support is provided by our instructors and there are sessions, live sessions like this. So if you just go to YouTube, where you are watching this, you can search for IITM BSE. Then you will see our channel, all the videos, everything is in public. So like what Rastrication Satyam was saying, I mean, we believe that knowledge should be of public good. So we have put out all these sessions, all the videos, everything in public. So you can actually go through it in our website. You can see the qualifier mock papers. We also have a direct entry to diploma that is also possible. So please do visit the website if you are hearing it for the first time. I think for the others, I think there are a lot of IITM BSE students who are watching this. I think for them, I think we may have to do a longer session afterwards. So Satyam, so once you got qualified, how was your experience? How had your both experience and program? Thank you, sir. So my motive behind taking this degree was that the flexibility that the degree offers. You know, I and Rishikesh are doing activities as well. So there is a little time problem. So in that point of time, I was looking for some degree program that can serve my need. And basically I can study as per my pace. So yeah, for that degree program is a very amazing degree program. Secondly, as you said that the education should be accessible to everyone. And that's how that's why all the lectures are available on public domain. You know, I also take advantage of that although I am in foundation here. But I know that in diploma year, professors are teaching concepts of web development and all other things. So while building the soft water, I used to face some problem, you know, in terms of web development. So I used to refer to those videos and come back and implement in the soft water platform. So there was coding involved, right? Even though we pay about no code. Yeah, yeah, to some extent. Yeah, to some extent. So basically, yeah. So but yeah, apart from this, the degree program is amazing. We get a vast access to vast majority of persons who are enrolled in this degree program and some of them are doing great in their life. You know, I know that we have some even IES officers studying here in the degree program and some are CEO, some are data scientists. So, you know, the knowledge, the knowledge that flows among these two among the student pool is something that is very amazing. And especially these periodic sessions conducted by the IED Madras on the YouTube live really help everyone to excel in life. Like, you know, I would like to share an incident where one of the YouTube live sessions helped us to get to this level. Maybe Rishikesh can talk about it. Yes. In fact, thank you, Satyam. I was about to say on this point after Satyam says the soft water platform was again had many insights from Professor Pratip and ICCW that is International Center for Clean Water. So thanks to the IITM, since we are the part of IITM institution in the basic degree program. Thanks to that we got direct access to the events and all the ICCW events organized by either Professor Pratip or maybe even other stakeholders also helped us a lot in understanding what the user really wants. Because I remember there was one week, I think it was three days program where even the talk was given on solar and 5G technology. So, there Professor Pratip mentioned that the problem is not a lab test or not availability of the logistics of test kits and all is. The problem is basically the right time of testing and the right device or the right system that eliminates logistics issues that involve in lab tests and test kits. So, this was one of the points that we also tried to enter and try to inculcate in the soft water platform. So, definitely being a part of IITM is very helpful, very beneficial tremendously in terms of the course content, definitely no doubt they are number one, I would say. Because flexibility, as Satyam said, anytime we can select course, the amount of course depending on our time, all this is definitely a. In fact, it's a revolution what I would say in the degree segment in India, more and more degrees can be converted, it can be hybrid, it can be completely online and offline too as we all. But yeah, it's more of a revolution than as an option, what I feel. And we basically feel proud to call the online degree program. It's the first time that a team from India has one call for code. And when people know about us that we are students of BST degree program through an online mode, so they get amazed and they get more interested to learn about it. So, in the past two days I have told more than 500 people about our degree program and I have spread the word across. So basically this is how, what I feel is achievements like this attract the people and make them inquisitive to look upon these various programs by institutions like IIT. Yeah, so I mean, so I have a follow up question to that. So you are doing multiple stuff and you say that this program is flexible. But I know that there is a quiz coming up on 21st, which is on Sunday and we have a lot of quizzes as part of the program. So I mean, how do you manage time with all these activities? You have a regular degree that you are doing. I think Rishikesh is doing one in a different mode. You are doing one face to face, which might be either in more because of a look down and all those things. But how do you manage the entire time? Yes, so initially it was very difficult because again, passing out from high school doing a degree as well as startup was very difficult. No doubt on that. But over time what we realized is we have two options. Either we quit something or we do something. So, and that choice was binary. For that reason we had only one option that is time management. Pre-plan our entire day a day before also give a buffer zone. So buffer zone to any task that comes up next day. So this is what has helped. In fact, I would also quote Mr. Ankur Warikul's time management course. Definitely like do look out for that course if anybody is looking out for time management where he has also mentioned how we can manage time in a much more better way where we even take priority and the time taken to complete the task is also taken care and kind of we do a confusion matrix where we select what task to be done first, what task to be done next. So that is one thing that is going to help. But yes, there is one thing that is always the all these things do not fall. All these things do not fall in line. We do not follow everything. Ultimately, we are human beings. We make mistakes. But what I feel is we can get an optimal option rather than having nothing. So reaching the optimal time management thing is better than having having no time management system. So that's that's what is happening. But yeah, again, there is cheat days and definitely. Yeah, what about you? I mean, how do you manage your time? Yes, so especially the quiz thing, you know, so I will not the problem happens when the video lecture piles up and then we switch it to 2x and we watch it faster. So I would like to say that daily reports are required in any activity. We are doing some sort of work. We are doing some degree program and all. So it is up to us how we manage and take up those reports and manage the time basically. So, you know, we can do it like this that suppose every week we have we have to do what assignment right. So I think we get approximately 10 days time for every week assignment. So, you know, 10 days I think is the right time for is a very good time to complete those video lectures. And also what I if you daily gave since I am a foundation here, so I put approximately 3 hours or sometime 2 hours a day. And that's also sufficient for me to go go ahead smoothly with this foundation here. So yes, this is how I manage. And yeah, basically as I said, it is up to us how we take up these things and manage the time. Yeah, thanks. Thanks both of you. I think so, I mean, since you're completing foundation here, I think you're looking up to so are you looking at a very specific diploma or are you going for the long haul and going for the complete BST degree? Complete BST degree. It is the destination. So what is the value? I mean, if you look at it, you have already worked on more critical, I mean, what we call as data analytics and all that you've worked on in your product. So what does degree, I mean, you're already doing one degree already. So what does IITM BST degree add? I mean, how does it add value already? I mean, you have achieved so much with even foundation courses, right? So what does it give you value? What does the additional value that is? Okay, so I would like to say that I am more into hardware thing rather than software thing. So I'm learning various tools and programming in this degree program. So it is helping me a lot in overall development. And basically, you know, after learning from a degree program, after we're watching the lectures, when I come back to work out, work on technical selectivities or software activities, I try to implement whatever I'm learning, what I've learned today. Like I remember, although I was studying Python from class grade 12 or some, yeah, some one year back, I started learning Python. But yeah, when I started watching the video lectures in this current term, I realized that I actually don't know much about the Python programming language and I should basically devote my time towards it and start learning more. And after all, it helped me a lot and it helped our team a lot to get to this level of world champion. So yeah, learning is a daily process. It is not like, I just learned, and why? So yeah, with every new course and with every new lecture in the degree program that we see, I try to get at least two things that I learned. Fantastic. Yeah, Rishi, the same question to you. Why degree program? First of all, sir, as when you said, when you rightly said the value towards the value and when Satyam also said the same thing, the course content is actually the value that we get into. Again, learning is every day process we all human beings do, no matter like we formally go for education or we have to learn because to survive, it's very important, not just financially but other things also. And sir, what happens is especially in IITM courses, although yes, NPTEL, they are also similar definitely, what happens is the ecosystem around that particular content is what is actually helping around. Even the lectures, the YouTube live sessions, although I haven't attended any live session but I do watch it after the recorded version. So they also do help which is completely in line with the course content. Activities that come up in between are also very helpful. And again, with degree and with something like an institution holding on to a course content, what happens is there is a tracking channel. There is weekly activities, there is three quizzes before entering. This helps the learner to learn on time be consistent to have a tracking of how the performance is, how the profile is. Ultimately, again, it depends on individual how that person understands their profile of their performance. But again, it helps for overall planning of other things also. So that's why degree, not diploma and foundation. And when sir, the course content was released for the degree and when we interact all together in our team and all when we check out other courses, what other physical models also offers. In fact, this is on par with the current technology, what the current market is asking, and it will definitely help tech excel, it will definitely help ourselves also. That's why degree. So I have almost come to the end of the session. Maybe I will have a very direct question. I want you to think of one short message that you would give the viewers out here. One should be about to come to these kind of platforms, which you have already pointed out. But what are the additional things that they should be having while looking out for solving problems, solving data time problems, solving real life problems and all. What do you think that someone should have? And second thing, I think it is more of, if they want to, if you are going to recommend IIT MBA degree program to someone like which you are already doing. What is the message to all those people who hear about this program for the first time? What is the message for them in terms of why should they join this degree program? So sir, coming to the first question on what people should look out for and all. First is observe. Second would be do what you love. And third is channelize what we are doing. It can be on everyday basis or it can be on task basis also depending on the situation. As far as why online degree and why would I recommend, in fact, I have recommended a couple of them in our family also. The reason why is because today the world is something where saturation in every field is happening. Say computer science, computer science and engineering. Almost everybody, I can literally say like even in our apartment here, we have out of 10, 9 of them are at least computer science engineers. So there is saturation, although I am not saying that don't go for that. But the thing is because of saturation, the industry, the world requires something that is unique, something that brings in some element that can help out the community, that can help out the industry that they are working on. Especially with this degree where it can be chosen as secondary degree also. What happens is a combination of both the degree or both the learnings can strive towards something different, something better. I'll give you one example sir, here in Goa, there is one startup which converts the general notary system and the basic lawyer system, they do it online. Now the best part is if the person who has, the founder of the person did it manually, he or she would have done just 10 work per day. But now since it is online and he or she is using machine learning or some data analysis, they can do 100 clients per day. They are scaling up their business and this will happen only when there is combinations of streams. Say there is an artist who is good at art, what happens is art is something like, again, it's specific to person, creativity also matters and all. But say if they have programming skills, they can combine programming and art and even some data analysis and make some art which is dynamic to changing weather. Like to say changing markets, stock prices, gold prices, based on that the art is changing. I don't know, when we think about it, the possibilities are endless. And this is how, and definitely converting it into a business is another part so that they can sustain and earn something on that. But yeah, this is what IIT Madras degree enables and this is just one step more to come inspired from IIT Madras definitely. I mean, again, I'll again quote this, this degree would be a revelation because it will clearly state that pursuing something online, something valuable online is also possible unless we try it. Yeah, I totally agree. Yeah, Satyam. Yeah, I totally agree for the Rishikesh. So yeah, so tell me your answer for both the questions. Yeah, Rishikesh has almost saturated the possible set of answers. Yes. So I would like to say that please be open up, interact with people around you, try to get their problems. Satyam, did I lose you? Rishikesh, are you able to hear Satyam? Yes, same here. I cannot hear Satyam. Satyam, we are not able to hear you. One second. I'll just message him so that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Satyam, we are not able to hear you. Can you check your audio one second? Yeah, all the viewers of this program, really sorry for this technical glitch, but I think Satyam was onto something. Please wait for a couple of minutes. Satyam, can you check your audio once now? Hello, am I audible now? Yes, yes. It was a technical glitch. So I was saying he looked for various interactive people, keep yourself at their place and empathize. And you know, please maintain a workflow or roadmap, like how we are going to proceed and work for building a solution. That will help a lot because it will prevent you getting off track. And talking about the BST degree program, I would like to say that I heard somewhere, you know, I am a tech enthusiast and regularly did tech articles. I learned that every company is going to get tech company in future. This was the tech line. So, you know, and we are actually also seeing this. You open your any mobile app, you open your YouTube, you see all the suggestions of the videos that you are interested in. You open any news app and you see all those kinds of news in which you are interested to see. So this revolution is happening and yeah, nowadays concept of metaverse is also emerging at a very fast rate. So, you know, stars are getting aligned to take this world to a whole different level. And, you know, I will say that a tech revolution has already started and BST degree program is playing a very prominent role to supply the world, you know, the world class, you know, the world class graduates that can serve, serve these industry requirements. Secondly, in my knowledge, I think it is the program is the only degree program running in the country that get full fledged to graduate degree to the students in data science and computer programming. Like, you know, there are various short term programs, but that frankly speaking, I don't think so they are serving the purpose. So, of course, this degree program is going to serve the purpose of the industry. And, you know, it is becoming the part of every kind of industry or data science or AI, ML. So, motivates many people to come and join this degree program. So, yes, this was all about. Thanks, both of you. So, how was your preparation for this on 21st? How many papers are you writing? I'll be writing too, but we need to prepare the answer. Which two? Which two are you planning to write? Yeah, mine would be in maths and English and Satyam's would be, I think, Python, right? Yeah, maths. Yeah, maths two and English. Okay, you are, so Satyam is maths two and Python. Yeah, yes, sir. But Python does not have an exam or something. Actually, I'm repeating the Python course this time, so I'll be most probably giving the end term only. But yeah, I do study that those concepts again. Okay. Yeah, due to some reasons I wasn't able to give the exam last time. Okay. Okay, so, I mean, yeah, so I think we have already exceeded the timeline, but it was great talking to you. I think after this section is over, maybe I'll connect you separately after this. Because I think there's a lot more to do for the ESC program students. It would be another session for the students after all your terms, maybe within the gap you can arrange something. But I'm really looking forward to interacting with both of you in the days to come. It was great talking to you. You gave a challenge, I mean, you gave, I mean, some of the words that you said, I think, you and I have to really look up side management and other things once again and see what's possible. It's amazing talking to you and I'm really proud that you're part of the IBM program. And it's like a personal for us, right? Students from our program go out and do well. I think that's really fantastic and really liked your ideas. All those people who are watching this live streaming, if you want to know more about Satyam and Rishikesh, they have already displayed the YouTube channel. Please go there. They have already told the company name. Yes, you can reach out to them. I think they will have their Twitter and other Instagram handles also possibly in the YouTube. Yes, so Satyam has shared his Safwater GitHub before. I forgot to answer. So anyone who wants to, one point that Satyam and Rishikesh has been pointing out again and again, specifically if you are a student of the YouTube program. I think both of them are very much interested in finding collaboration, finding other users who can contribute to the Safwater product. It would be great. So are you there in discourse, Rishikesh and Satyam? Yes, Satyam. So maybe you can put out a post in one of the course forums where you can say, if you want to contribute to Saf. So there is something called student centered activity, which is publicly available for every student in the program. So if you just go to discourse.onlinedegree.ighm.uc.in, you will see that along with your courses. So just go there. It is open to all students. Put out the post and let's see how many are participating. And I don't know how many students are also available. Maybe we'll just close it out also. So once you put out the post over there, I think we can also send it out as a nonsense to all the people. And essentially the idea is that is a non-moderated content where students form groups and they convert and they try to do some useful activities. That's what this forum was created for. So please go ahead, feel free to post your details in that forum so that the students from the BSD program can also reach out to you. A lot of request today was of that nature. I mean, you can also clarify several of their technical questions in that forum. Thank you so much for your words. I have noted your points. I would like to say in the end that reaching the level of world championship champion would not have been possible with efforts of many people. On camera, there are only five people, five persons representing South Water. But on the back end, there are many people who devoted their time and efforts and helped us to reach to this level. Everyone, please feel free to contribute for South Water development. I have posted the GitHub in there. Again, one more request to everyone. If you feel that technically it would be difficult to contribute in South Water GitHub, don't worry about it. We are open to feedbacks. We are open to what you want to get into South Water and what you're looking for and if there's something not working as expected. So definitely we look out for any individual who wants to contribute. Maybe they are from tech domain, maybe they are from art domain, maybe they are from financial domain, any domain. It would be great to see your contribution because it will again help Water which soon is going to get deployed with the help of Linux Foundation, the IBM call for it for team and other partners. Okay. So what we will do is we'll put a link in the YouTube description beneath it so that people who want to connect to you can actually look it up and reach out to you. For the BSc degree program, as I said, please post it to this course, let more students, more actual students come and join. Maybe you can start your activity. Absolutely, we won't moderate any of it. We are like, yes, this is for the students. Thank you very much. We are creating that space for the students alone. Okay. So that's it from IP address site today. Thanks a lot, Rishi creation, Satyam for spending your quality time with us. We really appreciate it. A great big thanks to the studio team and the team here at IP address for making this supporting us throughout this process. And yes, on behalf of the entire IP address, members, instructors, everyone. Once again, a big congratulations to all of you. Maybe I'll ask one of you to give a small session on no code environment someday. Maybe after this. Yeah. Definitely. I mean, yes. Yeah, it is your application development and we are in good code. Start from somewhere, how does it work? So maybe a session like that would be really good. So that's it from our side. Thanks everyone. Thanks for tuning in. Thank you so much. Thank you very much for giving us this platform and the audience. And thank you very much for everyone who has tuned in here too. It was great, sir. And yeah, definitely. Supporters will have. I'm sure now support will definitely have some really contribution from the community. Yeah. Yeah. I do hope for more contributions. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. You