 Okay, I'll do this. We'll jump into the show. Hey friends, this is Dan Stephanie Burke. You're watching behind the scenes divine intimacy radio. Very excited today to talk about a book that I think will be a real blessing to you and your your spiritual life, especially those who love our show. It's gonna be it's called a journey into Mount Carmel. Beautiful cover, beautiful content. Father Jeffrey Kirby. So we'll be on with him in a minute to help you to go deeper in your interior life. Before we do that, we have a difficult situation that we want to bring to your attention and hopefully draw some care. Yeah, I just want you to know about Amber Van Vinkle. If you Vickle Van Vinkle, if you have not been following the story, she is the beautiful wife and mother of five of of a Catholic evangelists. They have a website up a go fund me. She has been diagnosed with cancer since 2019. She's been struggling. They've moved her into hospice. And I actually just found out about this this morning, because I'm pretty much off social media all the time. But anyway, there she and her husband Dave do beautiful work. And I first came to know about them through one of their interviews with Father Dave Pavanka Pavanka on the Wild Goose series. So beautiful family, devastating news that she's in hospice. So number one, please pray, please storm heaven. Say your name again. It is Amber Van Vickle, Catholic mother of five, and she's now in hospice. So please storm heaven for her ones too, by the way. Yeah, she's mother of five, right. And they do have a go fund me page. So help them pray. And you can find the go fund me for the family. Just look up the van Vickles. Yeah, it says support the van Vickles in their fight with cancer on the go fund me page. So storm heaven. We certainly know the power of prayer. We know that you were faithful when we called out when I called out for prayer when Dan had COVID. And we thought all hope was lost at that point. Or at least we were desperate need of prayer ourselves. So let's do the same for Amber and her and Dave and their beautiful family. And let's do that for them. Yeah. So yeah, please help. Okay. The other thing I want to do before we jump in the show is folks are asking, what are you reading for lens? And what should I read for lens? Of course, the book we're talking about today can be read anytime for spiritual sustenance, a journey into Mount Carmel. But there's a one that's specifically targeted to lent that we just bought brought back into print by Archbishop Albin Goodyear. And it's called the passion and death of our Lord Jesus Christ. And it is an extraordinary work. I found the I found an old old copy tattered somewhere. And I sent it over to Charlie at at Sophia Press. I said, this has got to get back into print. And so he said, cool, let's do it. If you have never journeyed with Jesus, you know, through his what led up to his passion. And then each day and had a deep kind of meditative exploration of his emotions and his disciples emotions, Judas and what was going on. Goodyear is ex exquisite. I mean, he is a scholar of scholars. I've been to Israel a number of times, we just let a pilgrim is there recently. And and his description of, you know, the landscape and the, you know, the Mount of Olives and Jesus moving around and Caiaphas house is just glorious in its ability to illumine our minds and hearts to what he went through. And it'll change you because, you know, when you recognize how much he suffered for us, which, which, you know, requires some depth of energy and attention to meditate on, it really draws you to know and love him like like never before. So the passion and death of our Lord Jesus Christ, Archbishop Goodyear. And you it's a brand new book. So they'll probably end up getting it at EWTN Religious Catalog at some point, but a brand new old book. It's a brand new old book republished and it's exquisite writing. It is really on the level of Archbishop Fulton Sheen. Yeah, that kind of beauty and richness and richness and mystery. And I absolutely love it. It was transformative. So you can find it out as spiritualdirection.com hit the shop button. And I have these recommended books. And I think it's a seasonal one of the seasonal category. And you will not be sorry and you can get it before Lent. I mean, if you order it pretty quickly. Okay. Okay, you ready to roll? I am ready to roll. All right, let's see. Oh, by the way, for everybody who was praying for the couples and the couples retreat. Oh, man. Amazing. Amazing. It was incredible. So many graces. Divine intimacy and marriage. Yeah, at the at the shrine. And so keep your eye out and ear out for the next time that we do this. Yeah, the fruits are so extraordinary, we're just going to keep doing it. Yeah. So yeah, my husband's all in. I'm all in. It's a girly thing, but I'm not kidding. Okay. No, it's amazing. It was anything but girly. No, we don't. That's our sole selling point. We don't make men act like women. Yeah. You know, so we make we help men to be holy men, not not. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. So many joys because that really there was couples that were saying, I experienced a miracle. You know, it's just beautiful. So no, I mean, I'll never see the joy and the tears and the love. It's amazing. All based on Carmelite mystical tradition as the foundation, which is the different approach to marriage, you know, marriage along with a lot, along with a lot more. Yeah. Okay. All right. You ready to roll? Yeah. And your market set go. This Dan Burke. Welcome to divine intimacy radio, your radio. Oh, I'm with my wife. Okay. Okay. Good thing we're behind this is behind the scene. Oh my goodness. This is why they have to fix it for radio father. So okay. Okay. And your market set go. This is Dan and Stephanie Burke. Welcome to divine intimacy radio, your radio haven of rest, your hermitage of the heart, your monastery of the mind where we lift our hearts and minds to heaven to draw upon the wisdom of the saints to help us navigate joyfully, peacefully, the increasing two months of life and we're excited to have another great guest today to talk about a pathway to that deeper peace and prayer through the Carmelite tradition. So why don't you just tell folks who we've got on the line today? It's awesome. It's the most succinct bio that I've ever seen. So we want to hire your bio writer. This is the kind of bio Dan wants. Well, I just a simple. Well, and I'll say this is funny thing. So I, I've begun to send my bio to people and I say, if you want me to introduce myself, all I'm going to say is sinners saved by grace, you shouldn't listen to him, you know, this is better than that. Okay. So we want to welcome Father Jeffrey Kirby. He is a moral theologian, papal missionary of mercy and pastor of our lady of grace parish in Indian land, South Carolina. So welcome Father Kirby. So good to have you. It's good to be on the show. Thank you. It's great to have you with us. So of course today we're talking about a nine day preparation for the investiture the Brown scapular of our lady of Mount Carmel and means a great deal to us. Our community of possibly VA is a kind of a resurgence of Carmelite spirituality. A lot of our work is based on Diabola Institute for Spiritual Formation was inspired by the reproposal of of Carmelite mystical tradition. So when Sophia sent us this book, I thought, well, there's no way he's, we're missing that. And then I read the book and it's really exceptional. I think we'll jump into some questions for you, Father, but before we do for folks listening, a lot of folks get invested in the Brown scapular and really don't know what they're investing themselves into. They don't know the power. They don't do preparation and there really hasn't been in tradition because I've studied it quite in depth. Anything like this book where it really helps you to understand it, understand what it means to be what I would call an authentic disciple of Jesus, which is what, you know, the investing investing in the scapular really is all about. And so Father Kirby is exceptional in his clarity, simplicity without depth. Always look, I always love those three clarity, clarity, simplicity with depth. I'm sorry, those three are really hard to get to. But that's because the way authors do that is they are deep thinkers and they do it themselves. And they, they eliminate all the subterfuge for us and then say, you know, here. So welcome to the show, Father Kirby. And thank you for this great book. Yes, thank you, Dan. So Stephanie, I know you wanted to ask the first question right out of the gate. Okay. So where did the idea come come from to write a preparation for the investiture in the Brown scapular? Yeah, so most people may not realize that there's actually no formal preparation program for the investor in the Brown scapular. So, so if a Carmelite priest is listening to our interview and he says, wait a minute, there's no formal preparation. He's completely correct. Yeah. So this preparation really came from, you know, as a pastor, people began to reach out to me because I'm a huge, you know, promoter of the Brown scapular. And so people would reach out and they said, well, you know, Father, shouldn't there be some type of preparation that, you know, I have to prepare 33 days to consecrate myself to Jesus to Mary through St. Louis de Montfort. Shouldn't I have some type of preparation for the scapular? Well, this happened so often I thought, well, let's see if I can compose something. So I just took nine days because of the traditional novena, that would resonate with Catholics. And then I just began to draft a preparation program. And one of my inspirations is, you know, oftentimes the Second Vatican Council could be misunderstood. And people will say, well, Vatican II said, get rid of the pious traditions, sacramentals and so on. And that happened in a lot of parishes regrettably over the past few, a few decades. But really, what Vatican II said, no, is place the sacramentals back within the context of the Paschal Mystery, back within the context of discipleship, explain to the people of God what these pious traditions mean, these sacramentals, so as to avoid superstition and to allow them to really dive deeper into their discipleship. So that really, as people were asking for this preparation, that became my impetus, I thought, well, let's do it, let's take this to task. So for the preparation, I just drew from the Six Baptismal Promises. So going to the very core of the Paschal Mystery, we are incorporating the Paschal Mystery as Christians by Holy Baptism. So go to those Six Baptismal Promises, which honestly, a lot of Catholics, we renew them every Easter, but it's not really on the radar. And these are really important. These are six summaries of what it means to be a Christian disciple. So just use those Six Baptismal Promises, stretch them out a little bit over the course of nine days, and drafted this nine day preparation. And then of course, through in a lot of additional things, so huge resources from our spiritual tradition, some aspects of the Karmite tradition and the Karmite history, and try to have as much fun as possible, so that as Dan would say, we can have that depth without it being overwhelming to people. I wanted to make sure that the book was digestible, that it would resonate. There are some Paschal stories in there in order to develop some heavy theological points. But that's really what was the impetus for the book. The initial calling came from the trenches from fellow believers who said, this seems like this is really important. Shouldn't I do something to prepare for this investiture? Beautiful. Now, the format, you mentioned it a little bit, but I think it would be helpful to point out to folks, because I think it's super helpful in terms of, in its practicality. So you have a, so you cover the Six Baptismal Promises, and under each you, as you noted, you have stories and scripture passage. I love your use of scripture, and then spiritual exercises at the end. So as you've absorbed the content on one of the baptismal promises, and then I love the examination of conscience. So what Father does is gives an examination of conscience for each of the promises. And just considering how poorly catechized Catholics are today, this book alone is like a mini R CIA almost. I don't know. Did you have that in mind? I did, Dan. I'm so glad to hear you say that. I think behind the scenes of composing this preparation, my idea was a kind of crash course in discipleship, a mini R CIA. And so I'm glad that you saw that. And I hope that the those who use the book see it as well that, yes, this is about preparing for investiture in the Brown Scapular, but it's also that deepening in discipleship to really fan of the flame, the graces we have received to understand what it means to be a Christian. You know, go ahead. I'm sorry. Yeah. No, I'm just really happy to hear that. You know, I remember years and years ago when I was in Catholic education and talking to my pastor boss at that time, and we were discussing kind of the case, the state, you know, of the parish and the parents and everything that was, it was a little bit like trying to shove new wine into old wineskins. And, you know, every time you kind of spoke about truth, everything would get in a bit of an uproar because boy, that's really uncomfortable if you've never heard it. And, you know, he said something to me that I think was so powerful. And he said, Stephanie, we've lost generations to poor catechesis generation. So I love hearing that this is this little mini catechesis, this mini R CIA for those of us who may be enrolled in the scapular. But, you know, what we got beforehand was like, you should really do this. Here, do this, you know, and, and, you know, we may have dived in with our hearts, but maybe not truly understanding the significance and the depth of this devotion. So yes. And to realize that the devotion, you know, that the brown scapular is a reflection of our discipleship. So the scapular doesn't stand on its own. It's not this distinct thing that's, you know, out somewhere removed from our everyday following of Jesus Christ. You know, I love the scapular for many reasons. One of the, one of the things that I particularly enjoy is wearing the scapular is, is like wearing a small yoke and, and reminds me every day that I'm yoke to Jesus Christ. So even just wearing, you know, over our shoulders with the cords and so on, that, you know, it again reminds us, reminds me, reminds fellow believers of our connection to Jesus Christ, that we are following him, we are yoked with him. We are making this journey, working out our salvation by his grace with him. So I think that when we start putting the scapular and our other pious traditions within the context of discipleship, which was the real call of Vatican II, suddenly these scapulars and these devotions become even more rich and more holistic. So it's not simply why I wear the scapular, but now I wear the scapular because I'm a Christian. I wear the scapular because it reminds me of my consecration to Jesus Christ. I wear the scapular because it reminds me of God's presence. I think of my parishioners oftentimes, they go out in the midst of the world and we live in a world now that tells us God doesn't exist, prayer is a joke, and moral truth is not real. That's the gas we breathe. So as believers, we need every help, every ounce of help, every resource possible to help us. And I think the pious traditions of the church are a great place to go back to and begin to retrieve and in particular the scapular because we literally wear it on our bodies. And it's that daily reminder in the midst of a secular age that God is real, that he's with us. We're consecrated to him. We seek to follow his most excellent way. Amen. Amen. Well said. You're very clear in your thinking. It's beautiful. And I love it when diocesan priests especially, you know, help their parishioners to dive into the tradition in a deliberate way. I'll say this, you know, so we're talking with Father Jeffrey Kirby, a journey into Mount Carmel nine-day preparation for Investiture in the Brown Scapular of Our Lady hosted by Sophia Institute Press. A lot of priests listen to this show on the terrestrial radio BWTN when they're preparing for Mass. We know that because they tell us. I'd strongly recommend this for you priests for your parish. It's so perfectly written for like a parish. It's not a parish program book, but you could easily, you know, once a year, if you want to cataclyze a lot of your parishioners into something interesting that might be compelling to them. And that would have a tremendous spiritual impact. Yeah. Yeah. You could walk them through this, you know, over successive weeks or whatever, homilies or, you know, Wednesday night studies or whatever you do and get your folks, a bunch of folks fired up and more deeply understanding the faith in a non-threatening kind of unusual approach that I think would be super helpful. So when we get back from the break, we're going to continue with Father Kirby, Journey to Mount Carmel and talk to you a little bit more about some of your thinking about the Brown Scapular and how powerful it is. Stephanie, I've been invested in the Scapular for a long time and have studied it in depth and just absolutely love what you're doing with this book. So stay with us. We'll be right back after the break. That's 12. So I'll go 13. At least 13 and a half. Right. We just went 12. I don't know why I cut it off so quick. It just seemed like it was so ago 13.5. Okay. So when we come back, I want to talk about a little more of the structure. Yeah. Let's keep going. I want to hit on the point that you made about doing it as a pair of study. You want to do that first? Yeah, let me just hit structure. Yeah. All right. So folks, before we head back into the show for our live stream friends, we have put together a online retreat and small group study that'll rock your world for lands or beyond. We spent, invested a lot of funds in creating a film series and a corresponding book and small group study, all this stuff. But the film series is actually free and it's called Into the Deep online retreat and small group study. And you can get it at spiritualdirection.com forward slash prayer. So we spent a lot of funds on it, but you don't have to pay for it. But what we ask you to pay for is to invest yourself in helping your friends and family come to know Jesus in a deeper way. Your parishioners. Your parishioners. You can use this also. It is designed. It's a five week series. My deacon dad is using it for their Latin study series. Cool. So it has study guides, if you want. You can buy a book if you want that goes with it that teaches a 40 day prayer challenge for Lent, where we take all the Gospels and break them down using Father Bartunek's better part. I wrote the introduction to the book. So there's, there's all different levels. You can just watch the series that won't cost you anything. So for a little time, you can buy resources and materials. And then we also have free training on how to do small groups. So if you really want to have an amazing Lent, you don't practice mental prayer. You're struggling with peace in the midst of all the craziness going on. And you want to teach your parishioners, your family, your small groups, anything. I mean, mental prayer is what transforms your life. Yeah. It helps you to know that guy that we all worship. Right. Jesus. Yeah, I like it. Spiritualdirection.com forward slash prayer is the URL. Can you pop that up there, Jordan? Spiritualdirection.com forward slash prayer. And it is brand new. Brand new. Hot off the presses. All right. Let's jump back in. You ready? Yep. On your mark. Get set. Go! This is Dan and Stephanie Burke. Welcome back to Divine Intimacy Radio. We're talking with Father Jeffrey Kirby. Yeah. Right before the break. Wait, I have to say the book name. Oh, okay. Sorry. He wrote a great book. He did. It's what we're talking about. Called A Journey to Mount Carmel. A nine-day preparation for investiture into the brown scapular of Our Lady. Awesome book. Anyway, you had another comment about it. I just wanted to follow up with the comment that you made right before the break about how even pastors could use this with a series of perhaps homilies or Wednesday night studies or whatever. And all of a sudden, I was just thinking, well, wouldn't that be beautiful to do the series, teach your parishioners about it, and then tell them on this date and make it a Marion Feast Day. On this date, we're going to have brown scapulars here. I'll consecrate you. We'll do the prayer together. July 16th is the best day. Wow. You could transform your parish. Think about the graces that would fall if a pastor led this. Yeah, awesome stuff. Really good. I want to talk a little more about the structure. Did you have something else you wanted to do? Nope. Let's go. Okay. We mentioned before the break that there's a reflection on the six baptismal promises, and he has an examination of conscience for each that focuses on that particular promise, like renouncing sin. So am I aware of the great spiritual consequences of sin? Do I regularly fight against temptations and lies of sin? The other thing I love that you include in here, Father, is worthy reception, which is an unfortunate omission. So often, why did you include that? Yes. I think it's so important that when we speak about each part of our discipleship, that one of the highest things that we do as disciples, the highest thing we do is the worship of God. And of course, when we're in a worthy state that we can receive that Holy Communion. And I think that by emphasizing that, it helps us, first of all, to understand the moral aspects of our faith, but also the spiritual aspects that if we're going to approach, we want to make sure that we approach in a worthy manner. If we do so, then the graces that the Holy Spirit is able to give to us will just flood our souls in a powerful way. But if we receive an unworthy manner, and this becomes habitual, because oftentimes, when someone receives an unworthy manner, the soul starts to get calloused. And so oftentimes, what happens once or twice begins to be a habit. And then eventually, the grace of God, which is still given, cannot work within that soul because the soul has closed off the access to God to work. So I think the worthy reception of Holy Communion has to be mentioned, as well as emphasizing other parts of the spiritual tradition. So I've read several books on the spiritual life that are beautiful, powerful. They describe methods of prayer, but then they don't reference the sacraments or sometimes even the moral life. And if we cut those out, then what we do is we turn the spiritual life into this type of removed, almost agnostic experience, rather than an account with the living God that we nurture. And we nurture that both by our spiritual life, but also by our moral way of life and by the reception in a worthy manner of the sacraments. So again, trying to do it in a gentle, digestible way, not overwhelming anyone, but also respecting all the aspects, the essential aspects of what it means to be a disciple of the Lord. Yes, it's just so important. And when folks talk about where the reception and the graces and how it should be done, and what we're doing when we receive it in an unworthy manner, it reminds me of being this most beautiful lamp that's been created and it's got special China and this translucent, you know, lampshade and all this stuff. But then the electrical cord is sitting on the floor. And it's never going to give the light that it was designed to give because it's not plugged into the source. I love that. So we want to shine with the light of Christ, but if we're not receiving in a worthy manner and receiving all those graces and actually killing those graces by not being able to receive them, it just falls at our feet, we're never going to shine. So we want to be able to rectify that and get plugged into the source. Amen. And if I can stress, that is so important because if that's not done, then what eventually happens is the person believes that there's something wrong with the gospel, or there's something wrong with the grace of God, because, well, I keep doing this, but nothing's happening. Well, because you haven't plugged in the lamp. The Bob is not God or his grace or the gospel. It's that we have closed off the workings of his grace. Yeah, I think the danger of doubt and how it can cause just this immense spiritual death because we keep going and doing the same thing. And we're going, well, I go to confession, nothing changes. I receive the Eucharist. I'm going to Mass. I'm saying my prayers, and nothing's happening. Well, something's wrong. Something has to be rooted out, to be examined, to really do the work that's necessary. Maybe it's a deep examine. Maybe it's finding out why I don't have a firm purpose of amendment, you know, when I'm going up and receiving the sacrament of confession. Something's happening because the grace is not flowing. So we just don't want to, we don't want to take this lightly. We want to, we want to strive until we shed blood. So yes, yes. And Stephanie, if I can mention something I repeat throughout the book and the preparation, especially because the baptismal promises are the backdrop of the preparation. You know, I retrieve and really emphasize what the church calls the personal decision for Jesus Christ. And John Paul II in particular emphasized this. We see it in the Second Vatican Council. We see it in John the 23rd, Paul the 6th, Benedict the 16th, Pope Francis. But John Paul II, in a particular way, was able to crystallize and really express what it means that we have to make a personal decision for Jesus Christ. Now, I have to tell you, being in the Southeast, when I started to talk like this, people say, Oh, are you a convert father? You know, it's like, no, no, I've been Catholic my whole life. I'm a cradle Catholic, which is why I understand the importance of a personal decision for Jesus Christ. And again, sometimes Catholics can think, well, that sounds Protestant. Well, that's one thing that our Protestant brothers and sisters got right. So we need to make sure that we allow that to be a part of our fully living out of the Christian way of life. So we can receive all the grace of the sacraments. And of course, by receiving the grace of the sacraments, we can be worthy to receive, you know, Holy Communion and these other parts of the sacraments. But we can receive all the grace of the sacraments. We can show up, we can attend mass, we can participate in the life of the church. We can even say our set novenas or even our rosaries and various things of that sort, all the right things. But if we haven't made that personal decision for Jesus Christ, there's nothing that brings them together. There's nothing that, as St. Paul says, fans them into flame. So if Jesus Christ is still distant from me or he's a stranger or he's just someone, this remote Lord that I somehow have to obey or else he's going to hurt me, then all of the work of the life of the Christian can't really come into coalescence and have that energy and that zeal that the Christian way of life is supposed to give to us. So one thing I stress is that personal decision for Jesus Christ, by doing that, we avoid grave sins. We are worthy. So then we can receive his body and blood on least a weekly basis. We regularly go to confession. We do pray the rosary and the novenas. But all of it takes on a completely different light, completely different context. When I'm doing this because he's not simply Lord and Savior, but he's friend, companion, confidant. He is me, like my life for Christ. And that personal decision, if we can reclaim that as Catholics, and I don't know historically if that was removed because it was so emphasized by our Protestant brothers and sisters, but I think we have to bring that back in the context. Some of it is supposed to jump by the second. He could not have foot stomped more on the importance of the baptized making a personal decision for Jesus Christ. And I think, Stephanie, to your point, that's what brings it all together. Yeah, it's absolutely transformative. And it's central to my conversion, my reversion story, because I grew up Catholic, but the moment changed when I had lost everything and we don't have time for it here. But I made a decision to go to my parish. I was aching. I was hurting. I was pretty sure. I knew I was a state of mortal sin. I knew I was wrecking everything around me. And I didn't see a way out of getting out of that. And I went to the parish and I got on my face in front of the Tabernacle. And I said, I've heard that you are there. I've been told that you are there. If that's true, take over my life and I will do whatever you ask of me. It was absolutely transformative. Nothing was ever the same after that. I meant Dan Burke after that. I learned how to pray after that. And here I am on the radio and talking around the country and doing direction and all this other stuff from that fiat. That was me bringing the alabaster jar of my life and pouring it out at the feet of my Lord. And he received it. He received my yes and he transformed my life. And he can do that for anyone, anyone. But we do have to make a choice. We have to say, I want what you have. I love the scene where the Lord's, you know, with the cripple by the pools. Yeah, in the the best set of pools. And in the chosen, he says, do you want to be healed? Do you want to be healed? We have to say, yes, Lord, I want to be healed. I want it. And I want it now because I'm sick and tired of being tired. I'm sick and tired of being sick. And I'm sick and tired of feeling like I'm dying spiritually. So give me that life, giving water, and I will follow you the rest of my life. So God be praised. Thank you, Father, for your, for what you've said, because we need to hear that from our pastors. It's so necessary. Yes. Amen. So I want to hit, hit on something again. That's really important. You know, we, we do a lot of priestly formation. We do it for 40 dioceses. We pre or pre-ordination, then we do post-ordination, unspiritual direction, and then we, we minister to priests all the time. And one of the things that priests struggle with often is the diversity of their flock and where people are and how do you move them forward as a whole without causing, you know, blowing up one group or another. The cool thing about this book to the pastors listening is it's sort of a backdoor way of getting at, you know, a little deeper dive on a lot of these doctrines that can really help because people are interested in another thing and you're, you're getting them to that thing, which is a brown scapular, but through this, this reworking on the RCIA kind of work. So I can't emphasize enough how powerful I think this could be for parishes. Let's hit one last question before we get to head out and. Yeah. So Dan and I have both been invested. Many people out there have been invested. So this question is, can a person be reinvested in the brown scapular, especially if they didn't realize its importance the first time? Yeah. So very beautifully. Once we're invested in the scapular, even if we didn't fully appreciate or fully understand its power, its spiritual power, once we're invested, our lady claims us. So the scapular, you know, is symbolic of our lady's mantle, her cloak that covers us. So once we're invested, we are invested for life. Now with that said, and I want there to be consolation and encouragement by that that our lady claims us, right? So even if we're, you know, again, not fully aware or we're not where we should be in terms of our discipleship when we were invested, our lady claims us, she covers us with her mantle. With that said, however, it is possible, what I describe as a devotional reinvestiture. Yeah. So that someone who may was invested in their first holy communion or may when they were in high school or at some point in their discipleship where maybe it didn't mean much or maybe it meant something, but it's just been a while and they're looking for resources to kind of go a little deeper in their discipleship. I think that this book can be a resource that reinvestiture and the preparation for that can be a resource to again, there's the fan in the flame to go deeper to really draw closer even to the Lord closer to Lord Jesus. So we can be devotionally reinvested. And I want to show us an emotional practice that once we're invested, our ladies got us. Beautiful. FR Kirby.com is his website, FRKIRBY.com, a journey to Mount Carmel, a nine day preparation for investiture in the Brown scapular of our lady. Thank you so much for being with us. With that, we're out of time. So until next time, may the God of peace make you perfect in holiness. May he preserve you whole and entire spirit, soul, and body irreproachable at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen.