 Can you explain us what is happening now in the Netherlands with the experiment of the cities with growing legal cannabis? They are slowly moving in with the whole press, so now process, so now 10 cities have been chosen to where the experiment will take place. One of the requirements to participate was that all the coffee shops in a city should participate in the experiment. En they are now in the process of selecting the growers. So there will be 10 growers supplying the coffee shops. Dutch tomato growers are now applying for a license to grow cannabis as well. Er is one group also applying for a license who were growing illicitly in the past and have been brought to court and have been also been sentenced. So it would be interesting to see if they would allow this group also as one of the growers. They are called the idealistic cannabis growers so they are not tied to any criminal groups. They always paid their taxes, they always paid their electricity bill and they always said well we are doing it and we are supplying the coffee shops. So you could say that is a good example of what other countries also should do, that you try to incorporate those growers who used to grow illicitly in that industry. En it will be up to the next government to decide whether or not the experiment has been successful. In general what do you think about prospects of cannabis legalization in Europe? What model Europe will take? Should it follow the North American model or should it find its own way? Well, it should find its own way. We now see the dark sides of the North American model. It is very commercial. There is a risk of a corporate takeover of the cannabis industry. Leaving behind the small craft growers and the people who used to be in the illicit industry. En dat opent ook de manier om een grote alcohol type van regulatie te maken. En ik denk dat de Europes dat niet moeten gaan. We hebben een closer look at the Uruguayan model. With home growing cannabis clubs and also state controlled dispensary type of distribution and cultivation. My ideal model would be fair trade models so we also should allow for instance in the Netherlands which is now not possible. The import of Ashis from Morocco. You can try to reach an agreement with the Moroccan government that that would be possible. Grown by small growers. Social justice also very important. That's also different per country. A set of harm reduction principles that would allow avoid aggressive advertising or monopolizing of the industry.