 Yeah, so I was going through the updates and it's good to see the progress and all that you know you've been developing in the research. So good to see that. Also let me just see who are all on this call, who are all in the class. Okay, I just felt that for some of us you need to have some specifics. I don't know if, okay, Kennedy has just joined. Kennedy, I remember going through your, you know, the questionnaire that you actually emailed and yeah, it's very good, the kind of questions that you've put out. I think it's about, let me just see, isn't it about spiritual burnout that you're bringing on, Kennedy? Spiritual burnout, that's right. So yeah, the questions are good. The questions that you want to ask the leaders, the pastors, good questions, very incisive, insightful actually. But the only thing is, I just felt that if you would frame it a little differently and also see all the questions I see are open-ended. So in places where you can have close-ended questions, I think it will be helpful. Like for example, let's say question number eight that you put out, you know, how many hours do you spend in a week attending your pastoral duties? Right, so that can be a close-ended one where you say, okay, five hours, eight hours, ten hours, you know, more than that. Or you can even put it in the range, you decide that. So that would help you. It will be easier for you to tabulate rather than putting it open-ended like this. And also, you know, questions like, have you ever taken a vacation with a family? So I think you should, you know, maybe, you can even say, oh, yes, no, you know, and also the options to be yes and no, the answer. And also, I think it will be good to find out how many, right? You know, how many have you ever taken a vacation with a family and if they say yes, it would help to quantify. And say, okay, how many times, you know, maybe you're checking, you know, once a year, once in two years, once in five years, you know, that gives a different picture altogether. And, you know, how much family time is there, you know, exclusive family time. So that gives a, so it will help you to, to arrive at, you know, give you more clarity in analyzing that. So, you know, you can reframe the question and also, you know, and a lot of things like, do you have any regular exercise routine? You can reframe it to how many times in a week do you exercise, you know, or in, you know, like that, you know, and you can quantify it and say, okay, I exercise daily, I exercise once a week, exercise twice a week. So they can, it's easy for them to choose or, you know, none at all, right? So, so rather than saying, do you have any regular exercise routine, you can actually change it to how many times in a week do you exercise and then say none at all as one of the options. So you will get that also. And, I mean, that answer response also, and you can have, you know, at the same time, you can say, okay, once, twice, twice, daily. And also, you know, maybe you can have a question like how many hours, so you can get a picture of is this person intentionally, you know, doing things to take care of their health. And if it's contributing to their, you know, to their health and maintaining their good health, so you can arrive at that. Yeah, so like that, I know you have about 15 questions, but like think through and see how well you can present it and how well you can, you know, articulate or even quantify those things. So it will help you to tabulate it in a better way. And also some things that you want to keep it as open-ended, you go ahead and keep it as open-ended, right? I hope that helps, Kennedy. Do you have any questions on that? About your questionnaire. Yeah, okay, great. So yeah, so it's good going through each and every one of your, you know, the updated update of the project report. I just felt, Manki, your report is on, I just see, yeah. So since it's about the relevance of the church, some of the things that you're, you know, you're talking about the Moravians, which you've already studied in revivals, visitations, revives Moves of God from that book. So you might have to be a little careful not to overlap the same thing, right? You can, of course, refer to it because that's what, and your objective is different. You know, it's not to talk about revival, which you're talking about the relevance of the church. So I understand that. And you're also talking about the, you know, the link between those Moravian missions and also, you know, the business part of it. So that's interesting and how it actually helped. So sure, so, you know, so I see that. And yeah. Okay, so you've mentioned the categories of what you're actually researching and the time period. But also, I think what is, what is going to be the focus and emphasis is, you know, the future, right? You're looking at the church of the future. And like, it's important that you look at what's happening today, the relevance of what's happening today. I know the past information is what you had mentioned there that you've done so far. So just want to remind that what is the future, the relevance of things, the impact of the church in the future. And which means that whatever is happening currently, right, that also needs to have equal or maybe even more emphasis. Yeah, I just wanted to mention that anything that you want to talk about. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Yeah, it helped me a lot. Any questions for the questions, Maggie on on your work? Any doubts at all? No, not yet, sir. Okay. The point you just raised now, it is relevant to do more research on the prayer. Yeah, because the thing is this, right, right, because I realize that this information is very prevalent, the history, you know, it's there. But what is happening today, and that is something that you need to put together, right? Okay, this is how it will impact in the future, how it will have relevance to the church in future. Now that's that may not be ready information, readily available information. I understand that so that that analysis and that putting together is something that you would have to do. Yeah. Okay. Right. Okay, anyone else who's who wants to talk about their work and how any questions. Okay, Asha, go ahead, please. Thank you, Pastor. I just had a question on. Once we're continuing that, like, for the final draft, I mean the draft we did, should we continue with the final one with it or we have to make another one for the research? Well, if you, if you reached a place where you want to, like, start writing the final draft, go ahead. Yeah, go ahead and start writing. That's fine. That's okay. Thank you, Pastor. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Prabhakar, go ahead, please. Anything that you want to ask? Yes, Pastor. Very good morning. Morning. Pastor, just last time I had sent the draft, because I was working on the final draft simultaneously. Okay. So, is it okay to, like, finalize the draft, which I have sent with you? I'm sorry. I didn't get the last one. The draft, which I, the draft, which I sent you, Pastor. Can I, like, continue with that final one? Like, as it is actually, because I was preparing as, as if the final draft. Any suggestions you want to give me, or can I continue with that? Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, that update that you have done. Let me just go through that about persecution, right? Prevailing persecution. Yes, Pastor. See, the thing is, you have not followed that MLA format, I think, Prabhakar. Oh. So, yeah. So, you check that format, the MLA format. This, see, with regard to font, with regard to the lines, check the format. Yeah, you've, I think you've just used a standard, you know, kind of a format. Yes. And you've used that. But since, for this report, we are using the MLA format. You've used, I think, Cambria as your, you know, I don't know, different fonts you have used in different sections of the report, right? So, that, that you can change. Yeah, you just, yeah, you just go with the, yeah, otherwise, you know, table of contents, everything, index, everything is fine. Yeah, so this, you will have to, you know, this looks like you have, you have, you know, picked up information from, from the internet. Of course, you've used whatever sources you've used. I have been. I hope you're. Yes. Yeah. So, you will have to cite your sources. Okay. You will have to. Yeah, because that is not there. And you will have to cite your source and also, yeah, and also as part of the thing, you know, your recommendations. So that will be, you know, your recommendations and your analysis. So that will be separate. So, so that is something that I don't see yet. I guess that you're working on right now, you know, recommendations and conclusion. Yeah. So whatever. Yeah. I know. I know. I understand. I'm just saying that that needs to be mentioned. And that's, that's a very crucial part of the report. Right. So this is information that you've, you know, that you collected. And yeah. Okay. So this is. Okay. So you've mentioned the history of the whole thing and how it has led up to today's situation. Right. So that's fine. But also some of the current, you know, what's happening. I think that needs to, yeah. I think that also you've mentioned. Yeah. You have mentioned. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So if you would also, would there be real time data, you know, maybe you're right now in Palota Bazaar, Chattisgarh Palota Bazaar. Yes. Yeah. So if you have, you know, real time data, but what I mean by real time data is like, you know, some interviews or some things that you have collected from Chattisgarh and areas. So, yeah, if that is there, then you could, you know, kind of mention that that will also give a lot more, make it even more real and, you know, very, very current. I feel, yeah. Okay. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. So I think the Abraham has mentioned something abstract introduction methods result conclusion. Should we follow this outline? Well, you could, but just ensure that you have that format as such that you use the MLA format Abraham. Yeah, this is, this is fine. You know, I know that it will differ for each, you know, kind of report. So this is fine. Okay. Well, I think Susan had some question. Yes, sir. Yes, please. Sir, I have started working on the project and almost half I have done it, but I didn't send you the draft. Yeah, that's status update is, you know, I've mentioned the timelines and the guidelines. So that is, you know, because that is also marked, right? That carries some marks. So that needs to be there. So, I mean, you can send it, but yeah, if it's within the timeframe, it'll, it'll carry the full marks. If not, it won't. So that's the only thing, but please do send it. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Sure. Any particular questions, you know, pertaining to your area of research, anything that you want to ask or any challenges that you're encountering right now? Maybe you can talk about that so we can discuss that. Maybe lack of information or yeah. Yes, please. I just wanted to ask you one question. Yeah. I'm not done with people how they manage it. How do they take care of the people in the Christian community about the disabilities? So, like, what are the basic questions to ask them? Like, example of that author from home of hope. Like, if I'm about to go and interview with him for how he maintained the disabilities in that category or yes. So how do we approach with the questions that will, like, not put you kind of in situation where you're feeling uncomfortable, but at the same time you're like, yeah. See, you look at the objective of your report. Okay. I don't want to give you those specifics, but you, if you look at the very objective of your report, it's about how the Christian communities helping, right? And what are the problems faced by people? And I think it goes beyond, you know, beyond just day to day, but also their involvement in church and fellowship and all that, right? If I remember it correctly, that's what you want to address. So, well, you look at that and you put together a questionnaire and then we can talk about it. Okay. So why don't you put together a sample questionnaire of all the questions that you can think of and then maybe, you know, I can, we can fine tune it, right? But it's important that you first put together the question and then we can discuss it. Is that okay? Yes. Yes. Thank you so much. Okay. Right. Okay. Well, so Chris, how is it coming along? You're, I think we were saying, you know, like you wanted to about the questionnaire bit. And I'd like to see it first before we kind of issue that letter. So that's why. So how's it, how's that coming along? Are you still taking that approach? Yes. Yes. I'm taking that approach. I still have to promote the questions. Okay. My question is really about also the sort of the target audience for this, because I want to try and get a sample of maybe three categories of people who have never drunk alcohol. That's one. The second one would be people who have drunk and are, you know, who have given it up. And the third could be a category of people who have who are still drinking alcohol. Right. So I want to try and get that. But I guess I'm trying to understand how, how what's the best you're being able to, you know, do that. I know of people personally who have never drunk alcohol. So that is that, that, that's something that those, that would be a little bit easier. Right. The ones who have who have and who have given up. I think that that also I could, I could get a few of those. Right. The ones that are who are still, still drinking alcohol. I think that's the one that where I was wondering whether I mean, I was just wondering how was best we have been able to get that, to get that clarity. Yeah. Yeah. I think probably we could, I mean, I think what would help us if you can ask, I think that might help. You can say that I just want to, you know, find out there about, you know, this whole perspective from them. So, you know, it would help if they can point you in that direction. And of course, I missed some portion of it. I was just saying that if you're, since you know people who have first, you know, who have quit, who used to drink and they've quit, and maybe they can point you to others who in their circle of friends who know that they still continue, they might be able to guide you. I mean, just a suggestion. Right. Actually, I don't know that many people to be very thankful to you with that, you know, giving it up. And yeah, I mean, maybe about two or three of them. Yeah, it's a little bit of a sensitive point. Yeah. So, you can say, you know, I like to keep the name and other details anonymous. So, and, you know, but the other things like, okay, how long their age, you know, their faith and all that. So as long as you keep the name and the other details, basically the name, you know, if you can keep that classified, if you're not going to reveal the identity, I think they'll be confident to share that with you. Yeah. I don't think that, I mean, I'm just thinking a lot of here, but I don't think it's possible to say, for example, in a confidential way, contact a chrysalis, for example. And not if there are any cases that, you know, under confidence where they could, you know, maybe they can ask those people for their permission before they even, you know, give me that, give me that content. Just because in the survey, I'm not expecting, I'm in the question there, I'm not expecting for them to even mention their name. The questions, of course, will be able to determine, you know, which category they fall into. Right. So, what do you think it may, you know, it may help to contact chrysalis and ask them if they can give. Yeah, chrysalis, no Chris, because it's, I think that confidentiality is there right from the start, you know, even before you start, they, you know, they do that. So I don't think that would be possible, but I'm just thinking of another Christian rehab. So we can talk about that offline and maybe we can contact them, they should be able to, yeah, I'm sure he will be able to help you with that. Yeah, so I think that would, that would be a lot more, you know, specific and there'll be more, I think the sample size also would be pretty, you know, sizable. That would help, yeah. Let's try that approach. Okay, yeah. So I will contact you. Yeah, I'll just send you the details of the person and you can just have a call and see if that helps. Okay, fine. Yeah, he runs the rehab, it's a Christian rehab, so you can check, yeah. Okay, thank you. Yeah, sure, no problem. Okay, anyone else and anything that you want to talk about specifically? Yeah, yes, Rupa, please. Sir, I have sent you the draft and going forward with that project because I have not received any feedback. Okay, okay. Yeah, so yeah, I know the topic and the approach that you have taken. So that's fine. Yeah, just one second, let me just open up. Rupa, could you just tell me to which email ID you sent? Your ID, sir. It is the previous one which I have sent. Same ID I have sent, sir. Okay, let me just go through that. Shall I send it again? No problem, no problem. It'll be there, I'm just... It's March 1st, I have sent it, sir. And I have sent you the questionnaire. I have already received 19 feedbacks from 19 people. Yeah, responses from 19 people. Yeah. Okay, I think I kind of missed it. Okay, I'll email you. Let me just go through that. But apart from that, anything specific that you want to talk about? I thought each question, after receiving the answers, can I also add on my experience during each question I want to address in the paper? Is it okay, sir? Instead of concluding everything... I think if you have conclusions and recommendations as something after presenting and after the analysis, that will be better, it'll be a lot more clearer, I feel. Okay, sir. Surup, I'm just checking my other email also, the Bible College email I have not received. And I'm just checking my office email. It's 1st March, I have not got that yet. Would you mind sending it again, please? Sure, sure, sir. Yeah, we can send it to both the email IDs. Both. I have not got that, yeah, sorry. You can just resend it. Resend it. Yes, please. Okay, fine. Thank you. So Abhishek, yeah Abhishek, just give me a minute Abhishek. We are about Jewish faith, Christian context. I think we discuss this on the call. So is this from a research paper, Abhishek, from one particular research paper, whatever you're presenting, yeah, because you've not mentioned the source, so... Sir, I cited the source in the int. Just a minute. Those two articles, okay. So where exactly do you want to... See, when we discussed on the call, you actually had mentioned different direction, that you wanted to take the whole report to. Would you just tell me again, what is it that you want to conclude, or what is it that you want to be objective of the research? Abhishek, would you just tell us again, yeah. Like from beginning to end, like where it is started, and means everything about that particular group of people. From start to still that is going on. The custom there, it did not finish the report. Yeah, yeah, that's what I noticed. Okay. So I just feel that it needs to be kind of arranged a little differently. Abhishek, see, there's a lot of information on the beliefs and on the things. So maybe you need to write it in your own words. I think it's more of a copy paste from the report, which is here, which I see here. So that needs to change. Okay, that's one thing. Having, yeah, you can quote the report. You can quote the articles. But this is, you know, you're using the entire article, which is not really what we want, right? So you go through the articles, you go through the information, and you quote what you want to mention here to kind of give an insight into what you're sharing, what your findings are, what you've actually learned, what you studied about this community of messianic Jews. But you cannot quote verbatim. I think a lot of it is from that first source that you've cited. And in fact, the whole thing is from there. And if you're going to be using that, then that won't be the point of the research, actually. You understand what I'm saying, right? Yeah, yeah. Like, I thought that, like, during the conclusion, I will put my thoughts on that. Yeah, true. But also, you know, in your thoughts as in your conclusions to this, but even this, you know, this based on what you've, like, based on the article that you've read or what you've learned, putting it in your own words, okay, presenting it in your own words. But this is because this is someone else's work, and you're just, you know, the whole portion of it, you know, of someone else's work that you are, you know, presenting the whole thing. It's work to work verbatim with the pictures and everything, right? So it's someone else's work that you're presenting. So you can't be doing that. Like, I know that you're citing it at the end, but it's like, you know, like, 60, 50% of it is that. So rather than that, in your own words, in reading this article, what did you come to, right? Your understanding of it, you write it in your own words. And, of course, towards the end, you're going to write your conclusions and, you know, that is fine. Okay. Right? Yeah. Okay. I think that's a big change that needs to happen in this, right? Okay. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Anyone else or anything else that you want to? Pastor, I have a question. Yes, Mangee. Is it possible to send you an updated copy of our, what's the word? Is it possible to update our work and send it to you and not wait till the deadline? Okay. You want me to kind of review, like, I saw what you actually put up, do you want to change that, update that, and then, I'm sorry? To get more information, do some more update and send it to you. Yeah. You go ahead. You can, and probably if you have any questions based on the update, you can mention that also. So, I can address that. Okay. Thank you, sir. Yeah. I have, is it, as you said, about finding more information about the church of, our present church and what they're doing. So, I had it in mind to create a form that I can forward to different churches all over the world. And. I'm sorry, I missed that last bit. So, you want to make a questionnaire and forward it to others? Different churches around the world. And just to find out, to get more information on what to do in mission fields, because most mission fields, nowadays, people just go to preach the gospel, they go, preach the gospel, and then come out. So, that's what I plan to do to send a formula form. A questionnaire, yeah. So, you can, when you update your, the, you know, the status of what you're doing, you can also mention the questionnaire. And we can take a look at that also. We can review that. Sure. Thank you, Pust. Right. And also, you know, if you're doing it online, like what we were discussing at the last class, you can use Google Forms, and you can put it online. It'll be easier, simpler to tabulate as well. You can do that. Okay. Thank you, sir. Yeah. Welcome. Anyone else? Yes, Abhishek, please. Is the format is correct? Are they, I use? Yeah. It's actually all in bold. Did you check with the MLA format, Abhishek? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I think the line spacing is fine, and yeah. So, there are other things like, I think, a list of contents and, you know, those kind of things. So, you can, you can just use that. Check the template. You can use that. Yeah. But you've made it all bold, so you can change that, please. It doesn't have to be all bold. And also just check this font size. You can, yeah, just check that as well. Thank you, sir. Okay. Okay. So, if there are no more questions, we can stop right here. But if you have any, please, we can discuss it. So, yeah, today is the 14th of March. And we have some time before we, you know, so the collection of information and everything pertaining to that, please speed it up. And also putting together the final report. Okay. Once everything is in place, you can, you know, start on that as well. Right. So, just time it from now on till the, you know, the final presentation. Just time it well. So, you can, so you don't have to rush through any of those. Okay. So, so, yeah. Most welcome. And Ashakum. So, we could be close right now. Okay. So, thank you. And all the best. We'll catch up again next week. Right. God bless. Bye-bye.