 My argument is that we should try our very best to treat people without regard to race both in our personal lives And our public policy because in the past ten years it has become very popular to in the name of anti-racism Teach a kind of philosophy to our children and in general that says your race is everything Right, and I think that is the wrong way to fight racism if I'm being honest with you because I want to be Believe that you are being used as a pawn by the right and that you're a charlatan of sorts Welcome back. Thanks for watching today's video comes to us from the spew and their guest Podcaster and author Coleman Hughes who I must admit I'm not familiar with but I'm very glad and surprised that they brought him on that show From what I can tell about him He's a sort of anti-ebrahim ex-kendi two of the spew hosts were clearly not intellectually prepared to deal with mr Hughes which shows in their hilariously embarrassing responses to his sound arguments my argument Is that we should try our very best to treat people without regard to race both in our personal lives and our public policy Of course the reason I wrote this book is because in the past ten years It has become very popular to in the name of anti-racism Teach a kind of philosophy to our children and in general that says your race is everything, right? And I think that is the wrong way to fight racism, and that's why I wrote this book at this time How can you argue with that can I I'm sorry baby. Yeah, can I just point out that? Great, there is a reason for that. You know when I went to school Getting any information about anyone's race was not taught in history There was no black history none of those things were taught and here in America a hundred years ago when I was a younger woman That's how people saw you that's how they judged you so I think I Don't want to say it's the your youth, but I think You have a Point but I think you have to also take into consideration what people have lived through in order to understand why There has been such a a Pointing of very specific racial things like women couldn't go to get into colleges if you are a black person There are a lot of colleges wouldn't accept you trying to equal the playing field I think that's what a lot of folks were I've been trying to do that right there was will be Goldberg Desperately trying to read what she's supposed to say off notes that somebody prepared for her and Rationalizing racism as different when her team does it because there was racism in the past and we need more racism now to fix racism It's so dumb It makes no sense and if you just logically think it through you can see that it will result in an endless loop of Oppression grievance then oppression to fix that grievance then more grievance and more oppression Well, well, well how the turntables That is if the society doesn't destroy itself in the process But this is the kind of stuff that gets peddled by the hack fraud Ibrahim X. Kendi who idiotically believes that the only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination Which as this New York Times article points out is a belief that two wrongs do make a right We have very different cultures all living together in one country So I'm not going to deny that but I think I view this notion of a colorblind society similar to the idea of a peaceful society Which is to say it's an ideal. It's a north star and the point is not that we're ever going to get there We're not going to touch it But we have to know when we're going forward and when we're going backwards and we're going backwards when we're doing Woke kindergarten in San Francisco, you know with with you didn't hear about the story. No, oh, of course The default right now in a lot of areas of policy is to use you know black and Hispanic identity as a proxy for Disadvantage and my argument is that you actually get a better picture of who needs help by looking at Socioeconomics and income that that picks out people in a more accurate way When you say that Socioeconomics picks out people in a better way than race When you do look at the socioeconomics You see the huge disparity between white households and black households You see the huge disparity between white households and Hispanic households So your argument and I've read your book twice because I wanted to give it a chance Your argument that race has no place in that equation is really fundamentally flawed in my well Alright This chick is toast I'm sorry But I just got to jump in here real quick and point out that sunny hosting who has a long documented record of anti-white Racism chooses to compare whites to everyone else, which is what we typically see from these folks when in fact It's Asians who are the most advantaged in this white supremacist country. There's two separate questions One is whether each racial group is Socio-economically the same that I agree with you. They're not Yeah, and the question is yeah, of course, I agree with that fully the question is how do you how do you address that in the way? That actually targets poverty the best great and what Martin Luther King wrote in his book Why we can't wait is he called it we need a bill of rights for the disadvantaged and he said yes We should address racial inequality. Yes, we should address the legacy of slavery But the way to do that is on the basis of class and that will disproportionately target blacks and Hispanics because they're Disproportionately poor but it will be doing so in a way that also helps the white poor Exactly right and that's the only way it makes sense to do something like this if you're gonna do it Otherwise the government's just giving special privileges to people based on their skin color While other disadvantaged people of the wrong skin color are left out which again would be racial Discrimination by the government which is not only illegal, but morally wrong as you are a student of Dr. King I'm not only a student of Dr. King. I know his daughter Bernice, right? She's got nothing so she's gonna use an appeal to authority because she supposedly knows Dr. King's daughter Which doesn't say much about King's daughter or Sonny Hosten because one of these people believes that racism is bad always And the other believes that it's a weapon to wield so I'm gonna get to my question I think the premise is fundamentally flawed You claim that color blindness was the goal of the civil rights movement based upon Dr. King's I have a dream speech, you know content of character versus the color of skin Bernice Dr. King's daughter points out that four years after giving that speech actually Dr. King also said this a society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do Something special for Negroes your argument for color blindness I think is something that the right has co-opted and so many in the black community If I'm being honest with you because I want to be Believe that you are being used as a pawn by the right and that you're a charlatan of sorts I think it's very important the quote that you just pointed out about doing something Special for the Negro that's from the book why we can't wait that that I just mentioned yes a couple paragraphs later He lays out exactly what that something special was and it was the Bill of Rights for the disadvantage a broad class based pop You must include race No, he didn't he says yes, he does okay. Well, everyone can go everyone should go read the book why we can't wait Let's not get sidetracked by that. Yeah, you clearly trust the unhinged Sonny Hosten at your own peril She's got nothing and so she relies on conspiracy theories and trying to discredit this guy as a charlatan This guy is a charlatan, but we're listening to the insane rantings of people who think Ibrahim X. Kendi is smart I don't think I've been co-opted by anyone. I've only voted twice both for Democrats Although I'm an independent I would vote for a Republican probably a non-Trump Republican if they were compelling I don't think there's any evidence. I've been co-opted by anyone and I think that that's That's an ad hominem tactic people use to not address really the important conversations We're having here and I think it's better and it would be better for everyone if we stuck to the topics rather than make it about me But with no evidence, I just I want to give you the opportunity to respond to the I appreciate the criticism I appreciate it. There's no evidence that I've been co-opted by anyone. I have an independent podcast I work for CNN as an analyst. I write for the free press I'm independent in all of these endeavors and no one is paying me to say what I'm saying I'm saying it cuz I feel it. Do you okay hold on hold on we're taking it. We got to go to break. Well, that about desert Raps are all up. Which way will we go the Coleman Hughes way or the sunny-hosted Ibrahim X. Kendi rode to hell way Let me know in the comments. All right folks. 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