 Notifications got it. Yeah We are live Yo, yo everybody Let us know in in chat how seamless that was and if it actually worked out and didn't cause you to reload Yeah, let us know the baton was passed Yeah, very seamless aspect of it, but I felt seamless to me And I don't know if someone could kindly reset showbot, please When yeah, they said pretty seamless Yeah, when you mods that knows how to how to reset showbot, please do so Alright good good good everything worked. Yay Well, hello, happy Monday everybody. Happy Monday everyone April 1st. Okay, hmm, you know the joke So I was I was talking to somebody about this earlier. I I'm I Actually kind of try to stay offline unless it's for something very specific I need on April 1st because most of the jokes aren't funny anymore, right? You know, I feel like we we've kind of gone through like, you know It was like oh April Fool's ha ha and then like companies were trying too hard Yep, and people started to be like this isn't funny anymore It's not don't do it, you know And then people like me are like I'm just gonna not read things because I know they're all fake And it's just not funny. Yeah, but I was on threads earlier. So it wasn't X. It was threads You know just kind of seeing what's up and Occasionally I will even though I usually like the following Version timeline. Yeah Occasionally I will check out for you because I kind of I like some of the people that get recommended to me Yeah, and somebody had posted a photo of it was sort of like an entryway of a Apartment building or something. Yeah, we're a house But they were like hey, you know, did you know just wanted to check out just you know show everybody the remodel We're really excited about we painted over the original wood in the entryway with white and we carpeted the stairs And so I'm like Oh my gosh, you know, but like hey, you know, there's no accounting for taste That's fine. And then in the comments everyone was like we get it. It's April 1st And again you have total total rights to do such a thing, but I was just like Paint it over You're freaking out for them like I won't say anything bad, but oh, I would not have done that Ha ha April 1st. It's like April 1st contractor jokes. I guess Can you imagine? Oh, man. Yeah, no, I I Had I see a lot and then I also see some News that is real and then I have to double check like is this real or is this not real? I can't tell, you know, because I know what today is so that's kind of annoying, but I always appreciate April Fool's jokes because it's like the early warning system that my birthday is coming. Oh Okay, when is your birthday? Saturday Oh Well, happy early birthday Amos. Yes, I'm doing anything fun. I'll be an Austin. Oh Well, that's fun, right an eclipse You know some barbecue That's what I'm looking forward to. Yeah, very few things I like about Texas, but barbecue is one of them Well Austin is I know very little about Texas overall So I can't you know, you certainly know it better than I do Went to Dallas once wasn't super impressed, but again, you know work trip. What do I know? Yeah, Austin, I've spent a lot of time in and I think it's great Um, and I've heard that Houston is really cool in its own regard, but I've never been to Houston I love Austin. I lived in Abilene for four years Um been to Dallas, Fort Worth area several times If you if you know where to go it's it's pretty decent and depends on what you're going there for Um, but the rest of Texas is not my favorite. It's too hot blow dryer with dust in your face all the time Yeah, and uh, there's a lot of that going on far too many churches for my taste Yeah, yeah I remember uh being in Dallas again work trip So I was only there for a couple of days and most of it was like in a hotel working But um, I had like a night free and I didn't really have anybody like that I was working with that I could hang out with people were either I don't know going back home or busy or something. So I was like, you know, I'm just gonna like take an uber to A neighborhood And I don't know any neighborhoods in Dallas. So I was like, let's just like look for apple stores. True story Um, let's just like see where like the nearest apple store is because like that probably indicates a neighborhood that has some restaurants and You know fairly walkable and you know, it's you know, like like certain retail outlets And so I did and it was cool It was I I felt a little bit like I like went to a restaurant and like got some like mac and cheese or something in a beer and was like, well Okay Hello Dallas But it was fun I only know of one apple store in Dallas. It's not in a mall and it's in a little shopping center and it's got some amazing food Right next to it I wonder if it was the same place that I went to that's what i'm thinking if you weren't in a mall that it probably It wasn't a mall. No, no, no, it was it was it was a everything was it was basically just like a A street with lots of like shops and restaurants Um Yep, I could look it up, but we could just you know, we could just wonder for the rest of our life Just wonder somebody somebody I'll comment and tell us where it is Um, I haven't been to texas in a bit. Well, no austin. I guess the last time I was there was 2018 Uh, or 20. No, you are you going next week into or no? No, I'm here. Okay So, yeah, we will uh, it's I think it's just you and me Sarah next week Amos amos is gonna be gone. Yeah. Yeah, what will we do? I think I think the e-code is gonna happen while we're doing while you guys are Doing the show so It will not be it will it will be happening at this time Let's see somebody somebody's oh 21 hours and change so it will have just happened Really? Yeah, I think it happens at this time, but in the central time zone. So I see I see your show will be The monday show will be a few hours after it has complete concluded for us I don't know why I thought it was like in the evening. You know, yeah, but Zoe says at least half the mods will be in austin too. She will be there So we will be there. I'll get to meet her in the in the real world Oh, I'm jelly Yeah, she said she's bringing bacon which um, you know, hopefully she does Oh Well, if she doesn't um Probably not hard to find Bio Cal is gonna be in austin, but then he got a work trip and now he's gonna be in dallas instead So I might still see him because I might be taking a day trip on my birthday on saturday up to dallas to meet with some Oh, so you're staying you're staying for a while. Yeah, okay. You guys will have to go to the apple store We're getting on. I said hello My wife and my youngest daughter and I are getting in friday morning and we don't leave till wednesday morning So we're there for a few days. Oh cool Nice That's awesome We all um, all right. So eileen just so Sorry to uh fake you out. Um Fake out. I deleted the wall street journal article because now I just I can't find the original art. It just oh, okay interest of time Okay, but I have a fun little uh a fun little tweak. Um We can talk about okay little ios. It's not a hack. It's a feature but something that I didn't know about until yesterday Okay All right I am ready. Are you ready? I am Let's uh, are you ready? Amos? Oh, he's ready. He's already gone He's gone. So he's ready. He's ready. He's like, let's go do this. Let's do this You want to give me a count in Uh, sure All right, apple vision show episode nine in three Two Hey everybody, welcome back to apple vision show episode nine I'm sarah lane. I lean reverie. How the heck are you? You know what? I am excited to be here today and I have no jokes for you today as we are recording This is april fools and I refuse to give you jokes. I'm giving you only the truth today sarah Only the truth. I'm not partaking in what I feel like we talked about in the pre-show has dissolved into something not funny anymore Yeah, yeah, are we too serious? Are we like just too serious now? Is that what it is? You know what? What what bothers me and and it's probably just because you know, we're in the business of talking about actual news items It's always bothered me that You know as I'm you know Waking up on april first and you know It used to be going through my twitter timeline now It's a little bit different, but you know same idea where I'm just kind of like what's going on in the world You know, I have to be like Okay, let me like figure out what's real and what's a joke ha ha you guys are so clever Um to the point where even when I did daily tech headlines this morning I was like I promise there are no jokes in the show and there weren't You know because it's like I don't I hate it when someone's like no, this is real And people are like is it you know, it's like a waste of time. Come on get away Oh, like they can't trust you like I honestly I can't trust twitter half the time. I'm looking for stuff and I'm like, oh Right, that's a joke. Yeah, not funny. Okay. I really got stuff to do. This is kind of like in my way Yeah, exactly. That's that's a good way to put it It's like especially in the tech world you get a lot of I mean everybody likes a good social media joke You know And and I think I don't know 10 years ago It had sort of reached this, you know Pinnacle of like companies sort of outdoing each other with like a bull's jokes and half the time They weren't even really trying to fool you it was that they were just trying to be funny And that's where it like turned into like well, this is sort of dumb You know like your pr slash marketing department probably has better things to do Well, that's exactly right and not even just that like usually like in companies They try and get everybody involved to do something and it's like I gotta work, you know, I have Things to do I don't really have time to stop the world for a joke that not most people won't care about, you know But it was a thing to do at an incorporate world and it was like Anyway, um, you know in in better news as related to us. It is the anniversary of apple I actually had to look that up because I was worried that I was getting april fooled I was like, wait a minute. Oh, which would have been a really weird one But yeah, you still have to like double check I double checked because I was in the midst of looking at all these links that were fake and I was like wait Is it really apple's anniversary? Yes, it is founded in 1976 1976 How about that? It's a bicentennial baby of a company. It's right. That's right I mean that is I didn't I mean I I'm sure I've been fooled this before but I didn't know that offhand. That's a good little piece of trivia Yeah, I didn't jeopardy question I was just kind of sifting through news just to make sure there wasn't anything that broke that, you know Oh, we should really address and I saw that and once again I was like, is this a joke is someone someone pulling something online No, I double I went to wikipedia unless wikipedia went in and changed the day I mean if that happened it would be mayhem in the streets, you know You still have to double check wikipedia too, but you know apple fools can't come to wikipedia We're all just gonna melt down. Um, that's just the way it goes. Um, also since our last show Got an announcement that the worldwide uh developers conference Wwdc is happening at june 10th through 14th. Um, it is a it's a virtual show, uh, meaning that we'll you know get something that's streamed to us, although Sounds like um as I think apple has done 2022 2023, I think apple has done for two years now if at least at least in 2023 we'll have certain journalists and Uh students and just kind of folks that have ends um go into the campus itself to to look at stuff and and we'll get some updates on ios 18 ipad os 18 You know new apple watch os new uh new vision os Also works a good stuff, but yeah, again that's in june Yeah, we got we got some time I've put it on my calendar because you know it's gonna go live at a certain time on that You know first day june 10th, but I imagine all the stuff that we've been talking about over the last couple weeks The ai stuff, you know that's gonna Really come into fruition and maybe they'll address stuff that the doj was worried about you know So, uh, I also feel like and I don't you know, I I look forward to w w dc every year just because it I because it ends up affecting me as a consumer eventually um, if not just you know reporting on stuff, but I wonder How vision pro might be might change the the show or at least the keynot Interesting because you know, this is a developer product. It's been billed that way You know and and you know it it can be a consumer product You know if somebody is interested and and wants to you know Plunk down the the cash for it, but it is very much a you know We're in the first version of whatever developers are going to do with this thing and yeah Yeah, I wonder I wonder where we're gonna be in june and how apple's gonna spend that because of course I know whatever they do they're gonna spend it as we've seen you know like runaway You know amazing creative stuff from you know the developer community because that's the whole point Um, and we'll have examples of that, but I wonder if there'll be some announcements there too Yeah, yeah, I mean I mean the only thing that I think that's going to be obvious is going to be design And how that affects ios, you know on on our other devices, but other than that They've got to come up with something right come something. That's like uh, here's the next evolution of you know Our device which right, you know, right is slowly getting shipped to other countries But no, I think that's yeah, I think you're right It's it's definitely going to permeate other devices in some way shape or form whether it be like use cases or connectivity with other devices, but the device itself the vision pro You know, um, I hear a lot of jokes on the internet. Oh, nobody's talking about the vision pro anymore, you know, and I you know, you're probably right. It's gonna come back. It's gonna be resuscitated into the conversation I mean I I do Pardon me. I do really feel like It's it's so easy to make that joke, but it's also like Well, what's your use case if you don't have one then you don't care Some people do though so, you know, it's like it's like I don't even want to call it a niche device because I don't think that that's fair um, it is a device that is Competing with other devices that already exist and yet sort of in its own category And we have to figure out, you know, where where it lands and Yeah, for anybody to just be like, oh, no one's talking about the vision pro. It's like, well, they either bought one or they didn't Yeah I mean it's it's it's like the whole kind of like let's prove it's it works It does work You just might not want one. So it would be like saying like well, no one's talking about, you know, the The new ipad Well, did you get one or did you not? You know Maybe I like I don't want to sometimes I feel like I veer a little bit on like apple apologist But I just I would say that about any product. It's like, you know Yeah, we're not all gonna buy all the same stuff. It's great. That's what makes us human. Thank you I mean, I don't hear anyone talking about the stanley Stanley cups anymore those those tumble. I've got one right here. I lean. What? I know swear to buda. Yep. Um, this is actually all in line at target for that and like it's actually Long story. This is not mine. Um, well, it's mine now, but um, it um It was left behind when I was moving out of two apartments ago And I didn't like the uh real estate agent very much And so I did not tell him that he had left his Stanley cup behind And it's actually I mean, this is a ridiculously large I mean, I would not walk down the street with this is ridiculous s and l make skits about this But it is kind of great at the same time Did you like see it keeps me hydrated had it that he had it and you coveted it and you're like No, he just like left it outside on a table, you know, and I was just like If I liked you I would be like, oh you left your Stanley cup, but I didn't like him very much So, you know, if he ever listens to the show, he knows now. Yep. Yep. I took your Stanley cup and I will not give it back Bye But anyway, um, so speaking of personal stories Eileen, so Last couple weeks have been a little cray-cray. Um, if you watch our live stream, you know that Um, Eileen and I had done the show But I was in sort of a weird place The last couple of weeks, uh because I was at my mother's house and the reason I was at my mother's house was because she, uh Couple couple weeks ago now almost almost two weeks ago She came down to LA to visit me. She hasn't seen my new apartment, you know, just standard visit We were, you know, we had all these plans. We were, you know, gonna do walks and hikes and, you know, see museums and all the things and we happened to be over at, um, not at my house, but at another place and, uh, like up a flight of stairs Nothing crazy And outdoor stairs and on her way, you know, we like had pizza with some friends and we're walking back down to my car And as As we're walking back down She just kind of misses a step, um, you know, not super well lit. It was at night, you know Just one of those things not very dramatic Really, but she kind of kind of landed on her butt on the stairs and was like, oh Something really bad just happened with my knee Well, um, I will spare you the, you know, long details of how we got to the point where we realized that she broke her tibia in two places But that's what happened Just a freak accident Um, you know, and not a very dramatic fall to be honest Just one of those things, you know, it just she just she missed a step You know, could have happened to me you anybody Yeah, um Although I suspect that she needs to eat more calcium going forward. But uh, but anyway, so So that happened she is a diligent apple watch user the apple watch did not Detect a fall now I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with apple on this front because She didn't really fall, you know, she kind of it was almost like a trip a trip and a and a sit You know, but it ended up being like, you know, she had to have surgery. Um, you know, quite dramatic About a week ago, um, you know very dramatic, uh leg break, but not a dramatic fall So the apple watch didn't detect anything now the other day because I've been up Hanging out up at my mom's sort of helping her, you know Yeah, recover She she kind of um, she's mostly bedridden and like reached for something really quick You know, like one of her cats was doing something on the bed or whatever, you know And she said to me it's not funny. It didn't detect my fall But just now it asked if I fell because I made a weird sudden move with my arm Oh strange. Yeah Yeah, why why okay That's bizarre. So I mean and and again I don't really, you know, I don't know The inner workings of You know, how apple watches are supposed to help you health wise when detecting a fall Um, I have it turned on for myself. I've never seen it. Um, she says that she sees it, you know, fairly regularly Um to the point where she's like, okay, I think it's designed to like just be overly cautious Which is a good thing. I think Um, especially if you know, you you have a fall risk But when when there was actually a fall there was nothing so I think it's like I'm not saying Oh apple watches suck for this. I think it's I think it's a better than nothing You know Case scenario It's not going to hurt you if anything. It's going to give you a false positive But or I'm sorry. Uh, yes a false positive. Yeah, but when it actually is a thing You know, you can't rely on that All all together Um, we we actually have a new thing where And if anybody has if anyone's been through stuff like this, uh, please do write in feedback at applevisionshow.com because I'd love to know We've got a new thing where she's she's got like a like a a walker Um, but every time she gets out of bed She has a fanny pack. Um, you know Across her waist and puts her phone in there because I'm like, you know what? Uh, you can't rely on that apple watch like if there's a fall You need all of your your you need all of the options on your person I mean, she could use her watch to call somebody but it's like, you know, if you're sort of discombobulated and you know, you know Um In pain or you know all of those things it's like, you know, you have that phone with you at all times That's what you have So anyway, that's that's been a lot of fun Well, first of all, hopefully your mom is doing Much better or on the road to recovery, right? She's yeah, how's she doing? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah for sure. I mean listen, it's it's For anybody who's had um, sort of a dramatic leg break Um, I broke my foot once a few years ago and that sucked but this is way worse You know, so I can't really even imagine, you know, how how, um How tough that is so yeah, you know kudos to anybody who's been through that before but um But yes, uh, she is she's on the mend I I do wonder how much Some of these these products that are and and listen, you know to apple's credit apple never ever says And neither do any Any other company that's you know, it's supposed to give you health benefits like this does not replace You know the advice of a doctor or right, you know a medical professional or an ambulance Right all you know all that stuff This is supplemental and I think this was a very good reminder to me Exactly how supplemental it is. It's not perfect. Yeah, it's not perfect It's it's good to have but you can't you can't rely on stuff like that On its own. Yeah, and then you know, how does your mom feel about the watch being a like Backup versus, you know, oh, we have a we have a comment here Nine of 12 I did recommend a friend get one for elderly mom who had fallen and not found for a couple hours If nothing else it has location tagging too Yeah, um I mean, that's true. That's true. Yeah, but I think you know back to the Discussion I think that is another way of saying yeah, it's a backup right like you you still need your phone. You still need whatever, you know, um I don't know. I I just feel like Being overly reliant on technology Like you said is is just still not there yet, you know, and um, was your mom Reliant on it before or or was she if she think that oh, yeah, the watch is gonna help me, you know I mean Sorry mom, but um, she was In perfectly good health before I mean besides the fact that you know, she's a senior citizen You know, she's you know, nothing was wrong with her in any physical way So it wasn't like oh, I gotta be careful if I go on a walk Um, she did that all the time Every day, um, you know getting her steps in she loves her apple watch for that reason Um, you know, she loves, you know, the weather data and you know, okay, you know, I've closed my rings I you know, she loves it and I don't I don't want to make it seem like I think it sucks I just think it's it's a good reminder that when something Fairly catastrophic happens, which was what happened in this case Uh, it is it is a good Resource, but not it shouldn't be your only one. Yeah, so for anybody out there who's like I am kind of worried about my mom or myself or my kid or you know, what whatever Just a good just a good reminder to to make sure that you've you know crossed all your teeth Yeah, yeah, I mean maybe um Maybe apple will hear this story and continue to make tweaks That'll make that watch a little bit more useful in this arena. Um in terms of detection because as you know this or Siri or you know, there's just a lot of Mistakes that it still makes, you know, even though, uh, it is Technology that is generally working in a way that you are expected the way it's advertised. There are still Ways that it's just not your 100 percent companion, you know other it doesn't take away from a person It doesn't take away from your friend who can help you. Uh, it is a device that is a um support but not your I don't know. Maybe it's not even a backup sarah. I don't know. Maybe it's like I think I think I don't call it a backup. Definitely. It also It depends on how you use your watch when I first got my apple watch I was a very loyal fitbit user At a versa two for years Well, I mean for like two to three years Switched over to the apple watch because I was actually doing a comparison between the two Um, and then once I got the apple watch, I was like, oh, okay, this is the better This is the watch I want but you know, I was into the fitbit ecosystem for quite some time before that and um, I I I don't know. I I feel like the the um Okay, so for example, if you Pay for cellular on the apple watch I tried that actually just because I wanted to like see how great it worked at the time Uh, where I lived I don't live there anymore But when I was at studio redwood for anybody knows it's you know up in northern california Cell service was abysmal around my house Um, why if I was fine at my house? But like if I went on a walk, you know, cell service was weird And so it made no real sense for me to be like, oh, this is awesome I can just not take my phone and take my watch. Yeah, because the cell service sucked anyway Yeah, um, and you know, I just felt like this doesn't make sense, you know Monetarily for me for other people, I know it does People tell me all the time like, oh, I love just being able to use only my watch You know, especially if you've got airpods or some other earbuds, you know that kind of thing But it eventually after a few months. I looked at my cell phone bill and I'm like, yeah I I always have my phone with me. This is this is just Doesn't make sense. Yeah. Well, your phone has more capabilities too, right? And it's less awkward than like at this point in time touching very small Uh, even when I unlock sometimes I miss I miss a number I guess it's so small And I didn't think my fingers were that like like large. So there's you know, there could be some moments of Uh difficulty and if you're in danger, you don't have your phone Which doesn't work, you know, like you said then I don't know Maybe it's not, you know Worth the time to have, you know, your phone hooked up to your to your watch because maybe it won't do all the things I still do and I and and I'm definitely wasting my money doing that Especially now that I'm not using my watch over the last couple months. So I think I said this before on another show that I was going to cancel and I haven't canceled yet So I'm going to now Because why pay that extra ten dollars? You know, I ask myself that every month, Eileen It's like I look at these like and they're little, you know, little incremental, you know Well, I mean a cell phone bill not little and incremental, but there are little incremental things where I'm like Okay, t99 goes to google for google storage, but I also pay t99 for apple right iCloud and Apple, you know fitness plus Have I used that lately? No, I have not No, I I'm just gonna be real real straight with y'all. Nope. I haven't bought a new tv recently. So, you know, we'll get back there. Hopefully Wait, how much is the how much is the service the apple? Fitness plus is 10 bucks a month Oh Interesting. Okay. So so and and I you know, I am a firm believer in Well, I don't want to say like, oh, you shouldn't join a gym or belong to a gym because gyms are great in their own way But I'm a firm believer that you have lots of options if you're like I've got some room, you know, move the coffee table, you know, I'm gonna work out in here I love that. It's like for ten dollars a month You can do yoga. You can do stretching. You can do weight exercises Apple fitness plus is pretty cool But um, it also It it's going to charge you whether you use it or not just like, you know, just like any gym membership. So Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the subscriptions get you I mean, I I try not to subscribe to too many things and I've been kind of deleting as we go on but You know, then there's some mistakes made with some of the subscriptions that charge you Uh, well that happened to me with an app the language app that I use and I bought the lifetime membership So like I paid for it once and then they charged me This past year. I'm like, wait a minute. I have a lifetime Yeah, like are you charging me again? Lifetime lifetime? Yeah, lifetime is lifetime and they said it was a mistake, but I'm like where in your You think I wasn't you thought I wasn't gonna catch it, right? I think I think that's what it is Sometimes they think I I wouldn't catch these like Um What a small fine print, but I know what lifetime is It means I paid up full It does. Yeah, you know, and we might live longer. Who knows Uh, it's still lifetime, you know Back to your health and wellness, um We were talking about your mom and I'm trying to remember Did you mention like the even like some medical professionals say that the the watch is somewhat reliable or did am I imagining that? Actually, yeah, so so when this all happened, um There were you know a variety of people that we talked to You know a you know, we went to the er Um, so, you know, there's that group of people, you know, once she got back home. It was like, okay What's the plan? Uh, they said, yeah, we got a you know, we got to do surgery So that was sort of another group of people and then there's like the physical therapy and social work people um when you have a dramatic break like this and You live alone, um, which my mom does normally, um, there's a lot, you know, it takes a village, right? So uh, we uh spoke to a social worker with uh, who's associated with my mom's health insurance Um, which is kaiser, uh, which I have as well, which is great. I am For the most part, I I I I sing kaiser's praises to everyone I meet. Um, but um in this, uh, situation It was sort of like well, you know Mobility, you know, we're a little worried about that. Um, and you know, she can't use her left leg for six weeks minimum And it's not even like something where she can like bend her knee She because you know, it's all it's just like like the leg has to be basically just straight at all times. Um, so You know, and you can't get a wet so you can't shower. It's a whole thing But uh, but but they said to me, you know, I said, well, you know the fall the fall risk is What's most concerning to me because I don't want to make anything worse You know, we'll have another break kind of thing and they they said, but does she have an apple watch and I said, uh, Well, that that's good. And I said, yeah, well, but It didn't detect the fall the first time and she was with me And there were other people around so like She didn't really need the apple watch to like call 911 But what if she had been alone? Right, that's a whole different conversation. It would have thought that happened to me and I was alone You know, again, I'm like, I would want my phone. Honestly, you know, just be like, I need my phone. I need I need the real computer Yeah, I mean it failed. So How good is that watch? You know, I mean for that purpose Yeah, there are other purposes Let's be fair for the watch that is that is helpful But for that purpose if you were banking on it being the new I've fallen and I can't get up, you know Right, right. I know it didn't work. I cannot tell you how many times that has gone through my head Over the last couple weeks. Oh, yeah life alert. Mm-hmm life alert. That's what it was called. Oh my god I used to see those commercials all the time and I'd just be like, oh, well, maybe someday I'll need that in my You know, uh elderly state, but then we got the watch, but then it didn't work As we didn't but again, you know, uh, like I said, like This was not a dramatic fall. I wouldn't even really call it a fall. I would call it a Like a like a it almost it was almost like a oh mist a step landed on my butt Kind of thing. So there was impact obviously But it wasn't like, oh my gosh, my mom fell down the stairs. It was not that it was not that at all so So again, just a reminder to everybody This is a great option to have and and yes, maybe it does serve as somewhat of a first response slash backup, but I wouldn't recommend that anyone just be like, yeah, go forth a Person who might be at a higher risk of fall Your apple watch will save you I mean, it also doesn't Prevent you from falling. It just no it helps you get a hold of somebody Yeah Preventing you from falling is the crutches that you're on. That's what's happening Yeah, we are clearly not in the star trek Uh universe yet where you know things work with a tap and they could beam you up and You don't need money. And you know that like utopian world. We're not there yet people. We're not yet We're not there yet. Not there yet, but we're you know, we're trying to be And and and we're also trying to Perhaps get new ipads. I mean I'm kind of I'm kind of excited about this latest Bloomberg report about new ipads on the horizon new Oh led screens on on ipads, which is uh, awesome um, and uh Again, this is a rumor uh coming from mark german. So it's a pretty good rumor But um, but yeah ipad pro ipad air models both rumored to be coming in early may I haven't had an ipad that I use regularly for some time just because I don't know, uh, I you know, I used to host a show called ipad today when uh, I worked at twit, which you also worked at at one point. Um, You know pretty much everybody did at some point, but um, but because of that I I spent a lot of time just Trying to like figure out, you know, what apps are the best on an ipad and new ipad models were, you know part of my work thing and and uh Always had an ipad in my hand and over the years and I've said this before Because the iphone's got bigger. I felt like I needed an ipad less, which is Exactly why I don't have an ipad mini, which I know a lot of people love. So You love that mini and I've got no problem with the mini. I just have always felt like between my laptop, which is the 13 inch I uh, I uh mac macbook air and my Uh iphone 15 pro max God, stupid no enclosures. I I don't really I you know, I don't need my ipad as much But Eileen, I know that you you really like yours Yeah, I have the ipad pro 11 inch and I just got it last year Um, I don't think I will upgrade to these new ipads selfishly. I'm hoping that you know older models of like The keyboard will go on sale or will be a little bit more Will be a little bit less expensive because they'll have new models for the the new keyboard models for the new ipads probably um, but I did get it because I was definitely Um, not wanting to lug around my laptop everywhere. I wanted to see if you know, uh And it wasn't just like a curiosity. I really was thinking I would edit on the ipad a little bit more edit video And I would use it for productivity and all those kinds of things now I don't edit on video. I don't edit on my ipad believe it or not That's the one thing that I really tried and I was like, I don't know It's something about either on my laptop or if it's just for social videos. I'll just do it on my phone It's just quicker But I do use it for productivity. I use it for creativity for like, um, I don't want to say storyboarding But for like, you know, kind of uh goal setting and and things like that that I really love and I love I love the pencil. I love the apple pencil There's something about carrying it, you know and writing with it that I feel like I'm eliminating I have I used to have all these notepads And I know some people Really love, you know a real notepad with a pencil and whatever But I there's something about just not having that and using my ipad instead That I feel a little bit free Um And I am able to like and oh also traveling. I don't bring my laptop anymore. I bring my ipad Um, I did that uh in korea. I didn't have my laptop on me I just used my ipad and my phone, you know, I had that with me as well And I felt like I had a you know my a robust computing system with me And I still don't have a keyboard by the way I've been like going back and forth about what keyboard what third party Keyboard should I buy if I don't get the uh apple keyboard? And I don't know I'm I'm in the I'm not a designer I don't draw because there's a lot of applications for people who are very very like Good at design and drawing and I could see why they have the pencil and they're making amazing, you know designs and and and drawings on their ipad, but um, Uh, I don't know there's a little bit people who just They really prefer to hand write stuff You know, whether it's you know ideas or dreams or just Journaling or you know work-based stuff I don't do that very much But a lot of people are like that's the that's the way I like retain information the best That's the way I am, you know, my most productive So it's cool to have that Yeah, and I mean I find myself writing again with my hand which I hadn't done in Ages, you know, whether I don't really journal but like I said, I write goals I write on my planner, um, and I've mentioned before I'm taking korean So I'm writing and using that as a way to Write the korean alphabet and write sentences handwritten Um, my writing doesn't look very good, but you can also, you know Use the ipad to write but then have actual, you know text on screen pop up with the scribble Function so I don't know. There's there's lots of things that I I love about my ipad And I feel like I'm still discovering but I'm definitely glad that I'm in the ipad sort of universe and um, you know, I of course I'm gonna see these new models and I'm gonna think oh I want the OLED. I want this or whatever, but I don't think I need a bigger screen I know they're sporting like 12.9 inch Uh or or more and I'm like my 11 is great I don't know that I want the mini that might be too small for me for why I even got it, you know, because like you said Pones are getting bigger And I wanted something in between. I didn't want something small Yeah, and I just like to see things laid out a little bit bigger than a mini would you know But you know if the minis are great though if you're you know for maybe your kids or whatever and I found a great deal on amazon. They're the mini six is $375 right now. It's pretty cheap. So I'm like, yeah, I'm with amazon rewards points. I'm like, I might be able to Oh swing that You know, thank you whole foods For supplying me But um, yeah, you know the the ipad pro i've never had one. Um, it it came out kind of after I Could buy ipads and uh, you know have somebody else pay for them Yeah, uh, you know for work purposes And I have many friends who are like, oh, I mean it's a that mean they're all computers I don't mean to you know poo poo anything that you know self smartphones or computers too, but People who say, yeah, I don't I don't I never even reach from my laptop anymore Because uh, it's great and if you have an external keyboard or for whatever reason if you just like the touchscreen You know and can deal with that. You know, uh, it is truly a workhorse machine Uh, so I don't know I'd like to try it out. I'm also just I'm so fond of my macbook air Yeah, and I I don't feel like it's heavy when it's on my lap Even if I'm like laying on the couch, I mean, I don't have it on my lap all the time, but like It's fine. It doesn't bother me if something was I mean my work set up that I'm sitting at right now It's like, yeah, this is not mobile. I can't like go into my living room and do this right now With whatever so yeah, I I get it But but yeah, I feel like the ipad pro in the future Yeah, and ill for toro at some point We'll we'll we'll give it a whirl. But yeah, the ipad mini has never really Even when I see people holding them. I'm like, what are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? Why are you doing that? Why don't you use your phone? It's like a big phone, but like kindle, but You know ipad like I get it. I get it Um and and you know, no shaming for liking the size and form factor that you like, but I just It's never appealed to me. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think Again, like you said, it's it's for different exactly for the people who use the kindle Like it's perfect for the for that for that user if they want more than just reading, you know Otherwise, I don't know. I mean, I think, you know, listen the the the new pad the ipads on the horizon It's been like 18 months since the last up. It's been a long time. And so I think this is going to be huge I think, you know, I'd been reading reports that the You know, the sales have been kind of lagging here and there especially with with the one that I got I don't know Uh, if that matters to apple, but certainly having a new Version of an ipad I think is going to resuscitate And this is the second time I've used that word in this show resuscitated life Resuscitation that's the theme We're all just going to come back to life Okay, new updates. I feel like we're hanging on right? We're like waiting for w w, you know, dz And we're just waiting for you know, the new ios the new ipads, you know We did get the the vision pro but that's due for you know more conversation, right? It's been a couple months So I feel like apple is is going to come in the conversation With with like let's show you all the new updates and if they don't I don't know what to think but I think they will I think they're gonna come I think it's gonna be a big year. I do I I you know, I I think From from all we've heard about uh ios 18 being like so different than ios of the past and And also the rumors about um the iphone 16s, you know, we're not going to hear about those at w w dc But uh, you know one would think later this year. Yeah, usually uh late september early october Um as it has been in the past like oh different. I mean apple apple's gone rogue right now The vision pro, you know that that whole thing about you know going back to people being like, well, no one's talking about it It's like well if you have one I mean, are you talking about it on social media all day every day? Maybe some people are but you you know, I don't talk about my iphone all the time like, you know what still loving it Still loving it form factor not rocking a case Yep, same thing It's like no functioning talk about this stuff You know publicly to the point where that's an indicator of popularity I mean popularity indicator of popularity is sales Certainly, right, but um, but also what comes out of it. Anyway. Yeah, so I digress Uh, maybe it's time for a quick little break. What do you think sarah? Let's break um, there have been some, uh Panic amongst the apple community, uh, would you say sarah with some security issues of late? Um, and yeah Panic among some folks certainly. Yeah Um, did you get any of these password reset fishing attacks that um was sort of you know, uh talked about? Uh, socially out there. I did not yeah, so if you uh Hopefully if you're listening to this you were not a victim of any fishing attack, but if you don't really know what's up what what was happening um, where at least what was being reported and and uh, got some coverage last week were uh, uh variety of ios users Uh specifically who were ios watchos, um And even mac users um to some extent getting uh password That change prompts, you know, basically a push notification that you don't expect You look at it and you go I don't you know, I don't know what that is, you know kind of thing but The idea with this particular attack was to be relentless It was like, you know, I get this once I get this twice I get this three times I get this four times. I'm busy at that point and I'm just like, ah make it stop And maybe I hit the wrong button or maybe I say except rather than cancel kind of thing Um, you know or allow rather than don't allow, you know, maybe I'm just uh, you know, I'm flustered. I'm confused I'm busy Yeah, that's the point So uh and when that happens then you you're in a world of hurt. So that's what I understood this to be Didn't didn't I I haven't experienced this but I but I've definitely been sort of beaten down by fishing attacks before where You know knock on all the wood everybody wherever you are Knock on the wood that's closest to you. Um, I it's never happened to me in any sense that it's been really bad, but I I've definitely been I've been I've been caught, you know, I'm tired or I'm Not paying attention It it happens I think, you know, as technology is getting better these, you know on the flip side Uh fishing attacks have become definitely more sophisticated And you know, I've heard all kinds of crazy schemes out there. Uh, and it looks real It really looks real. So I I don't know. I mean, I guess, you know, not to play the like paranoid freak here but you know Be careful and just don't trust anything until you, you know, maybe ask someone Hey, did you get this, you know, uh, password reset? I mean, I don't know I guess I'm real doubtful like even emails that I get that are even for my insurance. I'm like, wait Why is this coming from this? Uh account or whatever I will call, you know, my doctor and you know, double check and make sure Hey, does this sound right? Is it coming from you? I'm afraid to click on this to pay a bill And then boom, you know, all of a sudden they have my passwords and all of that, right? Because I just hear a lot of You know, this is no longer just a Facebook scheme, you know that maybe your parents might fall for it is real sophisticated Looks like it's connected to, you know, apple help or whatever Uh apple security and and and it's not a surprise that there would be people who would just kind of accidentally fall into these traps because of how sophisticated these, you know Scammers are these days. So the situations that I had heard like that. It's just To your point, sarah, like as if you're going to get 30 notifications They're they were as upwards as like 20 30 notifications where you're just like, oh my god I can't stand this anymore and then yeah, it's it's it's the volume of it That's like designed to tear somebody down and kind of right, you know Or just catch them off guard in that right moment, you know, like if it doesn't work, it doesn't work But if you try that this is, you know, this is how fishing attacks are successful in the first place It's like you try that with, you know Eventually somebody's going to fall prey to To the attack Yeah, even if no one else does you might make a little bit of money off of just that one person Exactly, you know, and this is not like oh somebody, you know, doesn't understand the internet. It's not that at all It's just something that looks really genuine that isn't I mean, I will I will to this day. I'll go through emails, uh, and I don't know. I mean emails just being one, uh, example, but And I'll kind of go Yeah Seems fake, but like also is like really good You know, you know, I'll kind of, you know, I'll kind of look at the okay. Where's the originating? Where's it coming from? Okay, what are they doing? You know, what's the goal? I find it kind of fascinating And at the same time, you know, I'm not really that great of a detective. So I mean Not going to be my next career, but it's like I I see how this stuff works It really it just It's all about human behavior And catching people when they're least expecting it so that they go like, oh, yeah, of course Which is why you hear stories all the time about an employee, you know You know at some security company who uh, or you know, who was Who was uh in charge of, you know, a server farm like whoops fishing attack You know, they you know gave up a password or whatever and people go. Oh my gosh. How could you do that? It's like because we're humans We're humans But the more we talk about it and the more we, you know, try to help each other understand not to Uh, you know Fall for the stuff is is is great. And For a long time apple Folks, you know kind of had this whole like high and mighty thing over Like windows folks like well, you know, I mean windows is just full of you know The you know spam and scams and malware and you know, it doesn't happen to you know Anybody who has an apple product not true anymore. Not true anymore. Yes. They are different and uh apple definitely prides itself on Being uh, you know, maybe a little bit more conservative In the sense of being, you know, the family friendly company that you know has your privacy Insecurity for at forefront at all times, but this it nobody is safe. Nobody's no Yeah, I don't trust anybody anymore, sarah Good good me either, you know, I as painful as painful as two factor authentication is And I'm like hunting. Which phone did I say is my backup phone or whatever? It's worth it to to you know, two factor authentication is a pain Sometimes I have to log into facebook and uh, I've logged out for months and I am sent You have to go here to the code generator and to this and I'm like, oh my god Where am I going now and it takes me forever and I think why am I even logging into facebook? It's worth it. So that you don't get You know, I see those emails that are like someone's trying to reset your password. I'm like, oh, are they Good luck with that I get that too and so I have Speaking of facebook, so I've got my facebook account that I don't use very often either Yeah, but then I have a couple burner accounts for my own reasons. Oh, um, and you know, they're they're not important Um, you just you know, if you see me say hi, uh, if you if you could ever figure out as me You never will but but um, but you know, just whatever sometimes yeah going back to being That'll be my next career Nice, but um, but yeah, I will get from those accounts I get a lot of password reset notifications Which is sort of like I'm like I mean if you hacked me, I mean, there's nothing in there Like go ahead, but like they seem to be more susceptible than my actual facebook account Even though I have 2fa on everything Yeah, everything that allows that I have that on as annoying as it is It's you know, it's better to be annoyed than to be hacked. So exactly. Yeah Uh, the things we do because I don't know. I can't remember any of my passwords But because I change all my passwords and well, I don't know any of mine because I use a manager It's like, I mean if you held a gun in my head and said get me into your facebook account I'd be like, I don't know what it is. I truly don't like I'm not like being coy guys, right? Oh man, anyway, be safe be smart Uh, and uh, don't trust anyone. That's my advice. That's right. Yeah. Yeah Yep. All right. Be vigilant Be vigilant. I Really wanted to share this with you. Sarah this um, have you ever felt uh, Lonely while working alone at your desk working at home? No I prefer it Get away from me Well, if you do and you want to uh, have a little Robotic companion you can just with your phone and this device called the louis robot I I swear I amus. I don't know if you can let the uh video play It's a Kickstarter, which has already been funded, but I just thought it was so cute and if you watch the video um For the Kickstarter for this little mini robot It does things like you could obviously you could talk to it You could touch it, uh, you can't I mean I'm not going to do justice to what this video shows you Like literally I kind of want one, but I don't have a lot of desk space right now. My desk is so messy Um, but you know, it could take your photos. It's just like a cute little companion. There it is So if you're watching on video and if you're only listening on audio, um, check out the like I said the Kickstarter for louis LOOI robot Um, and it it's just like a little mini companion and I know zoe zoe and chat is like he's so cute And it is so cute It's like walley, you know the the animated kind of walley ask. I mean gosh You know how hurt I cried when I first watched walley like I don't even know if I can handle this But it is adorable Like I don't know what you know, uh, your dog Otis would think but you know See what I mean like you could touch it and it will It's kind of it again. It's it's not it's not really like a you know rolling around on the floor companion It's a desktop type thing I don't think my dog would really care You know, I think if it was going up and down the hallway that might be weird but um it's It's a little odd. It's a little odd. Okay. So, you know, I lean and I are watching the video right now So we're like a little distracted by this loving couple who loves their little, uh robot friend But yeah, so the idea is sort of like it can Work as you know, just sort of like chilling in the corner Uh providing, you know a clock or take a photo of you or Sense noise, maybe give you some updated weather reports. Like I get it. I like it But what's different, uh about this, you know, is compared to Something like an echo show Which I love But that doesn't you know roll around, you know, it sits in my kitchen and you know It works as it should but this is more of a I'm I'm present You know the sort of like blinky Blinky eyes thing is like that's just gonna tug at heartstrings But it's still really cute Okay, and one way they're advertising they're like, hey, it's a cool way to reuse your old phones So if you have an older phone and this is supposed to it's it's uh iOS first and they're going to port it for android also So if you have just an extra phone kind of laying around It doesn't have to just sit in your drawer and get dust you can make it the louis Philip chain asks in chat. This is a good question. Can you connect it to a drone? Oh, I don't I don't know. I mean, I guess so I I mean you can connect a lot of things to a drone. I can't it would it would technically work But I think you'd probably have to because the phone gets attached to the you know the bot And then that becomes a you know, there's two parts to a hole And I think a drone would be one more part, but maybe That's an interesting idea that would be really cool because then you could see your drone and sit there Anyway, I don't know. I just thought it was adorable. It reminded me of walley. I don't know if I'll get one You could still get some you can even though the uh project is backed there if if you're and they're not paying us They're not giving us a unit or anything. I just thought it was really cute. So, you know, sometimes you find these things You're like, oh, how about worse? Yeah, you know, I'm real quick. I lean because you know, every so often I Even though I feel like I I know ios inside it out Someone will be like, oh, did you not know how to do that? And I'm like, no show me I didn't I have not heard of that before. This is a fun one So, um, if you take a lot of photos and in my Uh specific example, especially of your pets But it could be of your kids or your car or whatever trees You know something that is going to be Over time in photos kind of identified as this is a certain Uh, you know category of a thing that sarah takes lots of photos of in my case dogs and cats And uh An ios calls them pets if you If you do a hard press While your screen is locked And i'm gonna Well, this is gonna be kind of a Stupid example because many of you are listening but not watching but i'll i'll try to explain it as best I can Hard press during a lock screen. So you kind of go like, okay, uh, I've got some customization You know, what what's my lock screen going to be swipe left? Um, then you have an add new with a plus button Go ahead and add the plus button Or click on it rather and go to photo shuffle Um second from left up on the top when you're asked to add new wallpaper Do that Then You have the option to add people pets nature cities or a customized album and what that does Is give you um with the frequency that you can you can set for yourself whether it's hourly daily monthly yearly whatever um What apple thinks you would like to have on your lock screen? So you just like have a new lock screen every time every time Well, I mean it would be every time if you said hourly Maybe not every time if you said daily, but like it would still be like something that's like Changing up like a wallpaper without you really having to think about it based on what it has decided You know is in your pet arena. So for example so, uh, we did this last night uh for me um and picked pets and um You know this morning I woke up and my lock screen was my late cat Lucy Who was a beautiful cat and I miss her very much and I was just sort of like Oh, right, right. Yes. Yes. I did this I did this You know, I had to like kind of remind myself like oh, yeah, I did this on purpose But it was really sweet and all day like it's made me happy every time I look at my phone Oh And so it's not the wop. It's just it's the lock screen. Okay. Is it yeah? Yeah, and and you chose like your pets Only like it's not going to throw in some weird like screenshot or something like that. I mean, I don't know if the algorithm is You know 100 but yeah, I mean it's it's when you look at it's the same thing. It's it's the same Group of photos that you would get if you go into photos and and Look at pets, you know, yeah, or you know, apple will Occasionally throw something at me, you know, like remember 2015 and I'm like, yeah, that was a crappier, but thanks so much apple That's interesting. Yeah, because that's interesting because you're letting apple choose it for you Like I have something on my watch where it's all my favorites Let right that just keep that keep rolling, but I have to star it right in order for it Yeah, this is very this is probably a feature Haven't tried it out because I only learned about this yesterday But you could probably just be like, oh, yeah And everything that gets funneled through this, you know Through this particular category is just like all my starred things But I think what they do is they're like pets friends Um, what was the other thing nature? Just just knowing what what you have taken photos of and for me The majority of the stuff I take photos of is my dog or my cat. Yeah That's just fun. Yeah Yeah, I know I know I wanted to share it with everybody like some of you might be like, uh, sarah We've all been doing this but I didn't know about it until yesterday. Yeah, you know what and it enhanced your life sarah So guess what that's what we do we talk about things that apple does to enhance our life Um, indeed before we wrap up. I do have this box And I wanted to do this really quick. Um, I'm gonna unbox something and then eventually I'm going to have I'm gonna deliver this to sarah because it's related to the apple vision pro and Um, you know because sarah's had to go up north for her mom I haven't been able to like give it to her, but wanted to just give a quick shout out to Uh, Spigen, I hope I'm saying the name of the company right who gave us this cool new uh, apple vision pro case and it hopefully This is very Trying to talk my way Um, and I mean hey y'all unboxing does not happen every week. This is fun Oh, look at the gray. Look at the gray sarah. So, you know, we We have a case for the apple vision pro Um, and we've shown it and it's quite wrinkly and yeah in fact Hold on. Let me grab. Yeah, why don't you grab it while I should know everybody this So I'm gonna open up this case here while sarah gets. Oh my gosh. I could smell the new by the way Smells really nice. Oh, this is very microfibre right here And there's like compartments here looks like for cables and stuff and then Yeah, this is very microfibre and then I will oh Yeah Yeah, sarah, this is microfibre. Love that. So and then there's yeah. Yeah, go ahead Well, no, so I'm I'm holding up the uh, the the travel vision pro, um Uh I don't know travel pack. Um, that comes with it that I mean, it's lovely But it's also more or less Covered in white pillow material Oh And my first reaction again, I haven't been doing a lot of like I don't know plane travel or whatever lately, but I was like, it's gonna get so dirty It's like it's like it's like having a suitcase That is this material and also white like you were just asking for travel Well, so I I like I like what you got over there Yeah, so I will Get it to you this week probably sarah, but just know look how nice this is this I mean, I know that I know what that case is like And it's not this And this one I feel like you'll feel a little bit more substantial. Yeah It's kind of again going back to the suitcase analogy. It's like, you know, like the you know I don't know. What what's the what's the fancy suitcase company? Uh You but I don't know, you know where it's like, yeah, it's very expensive But like you have like a hard shell, you know on the outside, you know where this is more of like I might get beat up a little bit So this just looks sleeker and it looks nice. Yeah It looks like premium like the device itself is not, you know, I mean listen, uh, the the other um case is protective But you know, when you see on the outside, it just it's and it's all wrinkly and you're like, why didn't apple do something like this? This is really nice. So, uh, oh people are saying samsonite, but I feel like it's not samsonite now Why can't like I'm gonna I'm gonna google expensive luggage I mean, you might get louis baton, which I mean, of course. Oh rimoa Rimoa Yeah, that's the one I'm thinking of I do not have this kind of luggage because I don't do I'm I don't roll like that, but um It's um, yeah fancy and you know very sort of sturdy almost like Who even like like metal luggage Rather than a fabric luggage Right. Oh, I lean, you know, just something to put on a christmas list They're oh, I see. Yeah Yeah, there it is if uh, you're watching on video, but I'll describe it for you. It is $1,600 for the rimoa Yeah, one of the for a carry-on Oh, this is the carry-on I know that one of the uh, black pink ladies is the uh, like the face of this brand or a face I'm sure there's multiple faces. Yeah, there's multiple faces But I know that she's one of them when I was in Seoul. I saw this ad all over the place but Dang now that I'm looking at luggage. There's like a titanium uh, uh carry-on For almost $5,000 Who knows titanium, but I I don't I don't know. Oh, wow Okay. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't know I don't have anything that needs to go into that You know, it's more just scarves than undies You know when the luggage When the luggage itself is more expensive than the stuff you put in it like Yeah Yeah I think there's a you know, that's a that's a I know we're we're kind of going on a tangent at this point We are that's an interesting uh topic for another time of like if you really want to like Uh and and this would uh Uh appeal to anybody who has expensive apple products as well You want nice things, you know You'd probably don't check them You you carry them on with you because that's the only way that you can keep control Now I am I'm a bag checker because I hate being at an airport with bags I just want to just not have anything and go to mcdonald's On the airport I'll get my bag on the other side. It's fine. Hopefully you don't lose it, you know, so it's you know, lifestyle stuff Yeah, for sure Oh, man, uh Well, now we know that sarah goes to mcdonald's at uh At the airport Yeah, do things every day. Yeah. Yep. Yep. I mean, you know depends on the airport. Um, I'm not going to sinabon Sorry sinabon people. I just don't like it But uh, but I'll you know, I I'm I'm fine with all other options. Give me a cpk. We are good to go Thank you mccarran and vegas Oh vegas vegas airports All right. Well, I think that about does it for this week. What do you think sarah? I think so too Uh, we covered a lot of ground. Thanks everybody for being with us for apple vision show episode nine We'll be back doing it all again next week So I until then Please do give us feedback anything anything, uh, you know struck your fancy Uh, it gave you some ideas for a future episode. Please do let us know We we would love to keep receiving your feedback feedback at apple vision show dot com And uh, we're on the socials. Uh, eileen is Uh Judicially being really creative on on our social networks. So you know round of applause round of applause brylene here But I'm just getting started man. I'm gonna do more. I'm just getting started. I know I I you know You're good at this way better than I am But but until next time. Thanks everybody for being with us and have a great week Hi everybody I wasn't sure if you were gonna have more to that story at the airport. So that's why I paused. I was like Are you gonna see more? Well, I've got lots of airport stories. I lead. I just felt like You know, it was really going down a rabbit hole Of things where people would be like, okay, I'm listening to the story, but I don't know why Hey, well, you know, if they stuck it out to towards the end of the show They would have known they would have gotten that tidbit about you. So if they didn't already know but oh that Um, yeah, I cut out the email because I was like, oh, we were going long anyway And you know, I know which we do every week. So we have to like we have to figure out, you know, it's We could do an email show We could I mean, that's not a terrible idea Yeah, just being like it's feedback day kind of thing. Yeah, or just have it earlier Yeah, so that we just you know, because we're just gonna talk and go. Yeah, exactly Pick one and just start the show with that and then At least one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's a cool idea Yeah, I don't want people to think that we're ignoring it because I actually, you know, like the feedback like From last week like asking for scott to be on the show and to talk about gaming like that's cool We're it's stuff that we're talking about and we're working on but it's not like a parent like You know a particular episode or the latest episode, right? So we are listening everybody Red Roger have a red light Roger has a red light. I'm sorry. I don't know this but it's it's they're talking about the spreadsheet um During during tns. We we have we have a yellow light like wrap up and then we have a red um Yeah, yeah, but this show isn't as high means like please wrap. Yeah Yeah, this show is a little bit more we breathe more so we don't you know Yeah, we're not trying to keep to a tidy 30 minutes on the show. Yeah Yeah, I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've wanted to breathe on dts and I can't can't breathe Can't do it I'm just like, okay Let's do it. Okay Oh, man, I I I did hit the uh that louis kickstarter for the two pack You did really? Two pack there's only nine slots available left for the two pack Wait, wait, wait. What's the difference for the two pack versus the There's the you get two. Oh you oh you mean you literally get two. Okay. Okay. You want two I think one for me and one for the wife. Okay. I see Oh All right, but it doesn't ship till oh no, it's August. Yeah, I want to pull the trigger actually Yeah, I want to pull the trigger on one And there's still one there's still a few available on the the early bird But I just think it's so cute But actually I don't really have let real estate on my current desk My current desk is filled with flash cards for my korean class and like just stuff You know all over the place and even if I clean it, I don't know that it has a lot of room To move so I don't know I don't want to put it on the floor. So it's gonna be like, you know, just basically like kicking it Um, I'm sure we'll review it on this show which makes it a tax write off for me. So there it is. Oh, there you go There's always I mean it is you know, it does like it really looks like Wally Oh I know taxes. Yeah, it's coming my my two oldest both went ahead and filed their taxes without us this year instead of Instead of us claiming them as dependents So this will be the first year we owe taxes and we owe like 2400 dollars Oh, which conveniently if we had been able to claim them because they you know, if they hadn't filed their taxes before us We would have been even so But they were that Those are those little details where it's like, you know, you can like Be really on top of things and just not know that Yeah, like I would have paid them the 300 dollars They got back in their taxes if they let me not pay the 2400 dollars to the feds But you know, this is the early adult life and that's what they do They want to take charge and do everything themselves instead of waiting for the parents I was still waiting for uh for w9's for other You know other freelance work. I have so I hadn't done my taxes yet and I went to go do my taxes They're like, yeah, we've already done ours Awesome things. Okay Nice didn't even bother me. I I got I got in there early this year partly because I was talking to Rob Dunwood about this a couple weeks ago where I was like, yeah, you know 2023 was I mean in in one sense like Didn't make a lot of money, but like I didn't have a lot of freelance work. So it was easy And he was like, yeah, I had to file like 13 10 99s I'm like, and no one's 13. Nope. I'm doing it myself. I'm like, yeah, that that sucks I had more work at the beginning of last year than I did throughout the rest of last year But those took the longest to get Because I had to remind those people. Hey, uh, just this is reminder january fairway. I did this and this and this for you I need that w9 Right or 1099 or whatever right? Yeah, because if they end up filing later Yeah, then it ends up, you know coming back to you eventually. Why didn't you claim this? I tried Yeah, so oh taxes taxes It's the uh, it's a part of opening your own business that people don't tell you about like hey taxes It's gonna be a pain. Yeah, I know. Uh, no, you don't you don't know it's It's gonna be a pain every time Uh, oh definitely taxes something something Um I actually don't I don't know the rest of the what is it the only Things that are for sure in life are death and taxes. Yeah, isn't that right? The only two guarantees in life for death and taxes. Thank you. Thank you amos. Yeah, um Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, we have like hey, you know, at least I only have taxes this year we have a lot of, um Suggestions for titles this week. So oh fantastic We were that chatty and that uh, interesting that everybody was like 12 suggestions. Yeah 12 How about I used them I used I I generally do use them but lately I mean prior to last week I usually use one that's pretty obvious like, you know, because I kind of wanted it to I thought I thought it would be better if we just Up upright like this is about this but last week I used the goat one just because I don't know I couldn't think of any anything else and I thought okay. This is kind of funny. Yeah, uh, I liked it Surrey tw and zoey bile cal clinton woodward and nick with the c All right, I'll give it a shot Let's see here Wait A little crazy, yeah Surrey tw actually activated my phone Um during the show I got I assumed their spam calls. Let's see if anyone sent me a voicemail. No, they didn't You mother truckers Oh good, there's a stanley one in here stanley. I just wanted to know if people were no, I kidding I did bring that up just because it came up, uh 10 tangentially Which I didn't even know you had a stanley cup stanley cup Wait tumblr. Do they call it stanley cup tumblr stanley? They call them stanley cups, which was confusing to me at first because I'm like hockey It's like no no different totally different It's just it's just a big cup I know how to use them, you know ridiculously big cup But you know it's you know the with the with the You know you got you got your I don't know it works out. It's nice stanley since 1913 it says on the side Oh wait nick nick and then and then this is like like a some Oh, oh Yeah, al ds like it's the american league division series. Yeah, which is like I'm like, uh, I wouldn't even care Because I'm national league, but okay Whatever Big dumb cup squishy. Yes, you get it. See s and l yeah My cup get bigger It's just a big dumb cup And I'll hold it Big cup Okay, there is I'm sorry. I love it, you know No, there's no apologies. You should you love what you love, you know You cannot do do not apologize. I know you're not the only one You didn't even have to stand in line like those people who wanted the pink one, which I didn't understand so and also I guess it depends on what you want to drink throughout the day, but like I always try to You know, I'm I'm constantly trying to make myself drink water And if I have you know a cup of water and I drink it Then like I'll find an excuse to be like I I'm too busy, you know, I already had water You know, but if I have like a big dumb cup Then I'm like, oh, I mean no excuse. I'm gonna drink, you know 30 liters of water a day I'm kidding. It's not that big, but you know, you get it. You get the idea Wait, you're falling. Oh, but you're falling with it wrong. Uh, okay Okay Let's see. I don't roll her bag like that Uh, let's see Sarah's mom is so laid back. Not even her apple watch could detect her fall. That's a very long title I'm not sure if she would love that one. No, but uh, I won't use it. Don't worry, but you know, somewhat accurate. Yes Yes Follow the house I watch Um, zoey, I don't know if it um if I would assume so. Um, she's asking if this keeps liquids hot Oh the same way they keep liquids cold. I mean the It is titanium, I guess But the top is plastic. So that always feels weird with hot stuff, especially when you're using a straw, but I don't know maybe Big dumb cup And you know what she didn't even pay for you guys No, it's even better from a real estate agent. I didn't like And I don't even care You know what that guy didn't probably doesn't even miss it didn't even didn't even know just thought Yeah, yeah, it is stealing or accepting an unintentional donation Right. Yeah. No stealing would would imply something different. Yeah. Yeah, you know what he probably was like, uh, well You know, you loved it and and now it's going away I bet he probably had another one. He left it for another client Just as a like, maybe they'll come back to me since I left the Stanley cup Perhaps did not perhaps I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that he was doing that on purpose strategically doing that he had different, you know Intentions this was to to to make you be a lifelong client not anyway All right Elean's like, okay, well We're about ready. Um, I'm gonna finish my granola bar We do actually we have to balance amos. You got other stuff to do. Um, and um, I gotta walk the pooch and Oh before we leave Eileen house. So what you're doing? You know Sawyer's good. He's here He's sleeping hard Yeah, he sleeps, you know A lot of the day a lot of sleeping. Yep older man, you know Um, but yeah, he was he's you know, I find him running down the halls Helping that he doesn't collapse, you know, who does to swear? You know for those of you who don't know he has a heart condition and he is 15 and a half And for dog years, that's pretty that's pretty late Yeah in life. We had a scare in january and you know, he's still here guys. He's still here You know all hail Sawyer He doesn't quit. He doesn't quit on life and neither should we that's what that's right, you know, this guy's like no We should all yeah lessons to be learned 100 per cent He teaches me stuff every day and um, you know, I'm thankful for it I'm just like every extra day I get is a is a gift even if he wakes us up at 2 in the morning 5 30 in the morning Doesn't want to eat doesn't want to eat his pills Doesn't want to eat the food. What is he gonna do? Yeah, you know, he's lived his life where he's like, no, I don't want that I want something more premium like make me a steak like, okay um I feel like this house this house is his right he lit I love the look he must give you where I lean's like it's steak night. Okay. Yeah Oh, yeah, he will he gives us the like, are you serious? That's what that's what you're feeding me You're like, no, that doesn't that's not how it works anymore. Like, oh, okay. I'm so sorry. Sorry. What should be what should I catch? I literally Like his servant This man he runs the house. That's what you guys should know. Yeah. Yeah And he he has earned it. He's he's he's been a good dog Annoyed the crap out of his sisters, but you know what? What am I gonna do? He's he's he's been very loyal for 14 years you guys 14 Yeah, so I mean, yeah that I mean I that's earned it Yeah He has he has He really has, you know, I look at him and go. Well, okay. What do you want? Yes, sir. What would would you like? That's what we do around this house. It's all it's owned by Sawyer Oh 18 bio cow. Wow That's them Yeah, bio cows pup live to 18 years old. You hear about that with the smaller dogs um, I mean even 18 is kind of crazy, but you know Larger dogs, you know, I try not to get too ahead of myself, but Otis is Seven slash eight. We don't really know because he was a rescue You know, but he's he's a big he's a big boy And with you know his breed stuff It's kind of like, okay He's a senior at this point. Yeah, he's in great shape We have no problems, but he's not you know a young pup Yeah, and What I think about that too much. I'm just like, okay. I have to get off the internet. I know I know same here Same here, but you know Yeah, hey and with that Thank you all and uh, we will see you next Monday Bye Bye everyone