 OK, so let's go ahead and call the meeting to order. Because we've got the minutes in front of us and got in here, we'll have a chance to read through them. What changes? There's only one. I think one of the very two of them. There's what's written September instead of October. The meeting that we're having next Tuesday. It's at September the 18th. The only reason I know this is I go to that meeting. I went to that meeting, too, and I didn't know this. October? Yeah. I think when I wrote that, I thought it was September. Because I wrote that on October 14th? Yes, I thought it was September. I didn't know, so it was in August. I have a logical explanation for that. Yes. And that's who trusts me. I get it. And thank you, thank you, thank you for joining me. No problem, no problem. So, yeah, so however, there's some adjustments, too, Karen? Yeah, Karen went through and made adjustments. That's right. Is that all out of the red here? If you can read it, please. I had a chance to read it this morning, so. Karen, thank you for doing that. So we have this. So we're not going to do it all the way this morning. I have a question. On the house manager's report part, since the board year-end report, it was written as the numbers from Kathy's reports would be used, or numbers would come from Kathy's report. And you change it to the numbers from Kathy's reports would be included. I kind of remember it. We did specify that we would use her numbers. So I think the original statement is better. Sorry, it's more of what we discussed. Well, there's not much of that in the report than just numbers from Kathy's reports. I know, but it didn't say anything else. It just says it was in terms of the numbers would come from Kathy's reports. I know we said that statement. I don't have any issue with it, because we will be including her numbers here. I just wanted to make it clear. Yeah, that's where the numbers are coming from. Yeah, it was, yeah, make clear that we would be sure not to use the reports. So do you want those changes? I personally find it's fine with the change of September to October meeting. And then other than that, I think it's in good form. But you guys, of course, what do you like to do? I don't know what it's going to look like. Yeah, I've never seen one. So I'm going to say I don't know if it's wording needs to be changed or if it's sufficient. It's just that we kind of made it clear that we would use her numbers. Right. You don't have to go wrong with the way it was. It's all similar. And it's similar. It was kind of clear that that would be like the baseline would be her numbers. So what else would you use? Yeah, exactly. Out of a choice of one. Right. Guys, I need a motion that we either accept the changes or go back to the original. I personally find that there's no problem with the changes that have been made because it's clear that we're going to be using the numbers from the report. So I personally have it fine with the changes that have been made. But I need a motion from somebody. Just a comment. I move that we accept the report the way it is. OK. Can I get a second? I second. All in favor. Who is the second? I'm sorry. It's Janet. Janet. OK. I don't know. All in favor. Janet. I don't know. I don't know. I just heard a voice over there. It's like, which one do you send that? OK. So all in favor. I. Is it OK if we go ahead and sign it as is? No, I'm going to all print it without the red line. OK, great. 6th of October, I'm going to sign it. All right, just checking. All right, moving on. House Manager's report. Still busy, busy, busy. Booking like crazy. Yay. Booked another November event. Booked a couple more weddings for next year. We're up to seven. So it's been nuts. And juggling landscaper issues. I came to turn the water off last week. It's like, what are you doing? So we're busy reinstating the train, the sprinklers back on. Yeah, it was like, what are you doing? Apparently the person doing it did not read his schedule. We weren't scheduled till later in October. So still working out the kinks with the new owners of Bro. And just doing a lot of delay-making and stuff. All the carpets are clean. He did a fabulous job. And he's going to come back in a couple of months and clean the kitchenette floor too. So he's trying to get his hands on a smaller buffer so that it fits better in residential settings. So just plugging along, updating the pricing for next year with the revised equipment prices and staffing prices. So from here forward, we'll have correct pricing for 2023. So and the difference in the packages range between $200 and $400, depending on the number of guests. So the packages are going between $200 and $400 each. So and most of that is equipment. It's the equipment. The chairs started this year at $2.65. And next year, they're going to be $3.50 a piece. That gives you just an idea. So for a 100-person wedding, that's $100 increase, just for chairs. So everything went up. Chairs went up, tables went up, linens went up, delivering went up. Everything's gone up. So that's a, that work's almost done. We're going to put it in packets probably this week. Just plugging along. I'll be gone next week on vacation. So if you're looking for me, I'll be on the beach. No, I'm not. I'm going to Florida. Oh, good for you. I'm a great person. Well, I'm going to be on the East Coast. So it's nice to sit here. And not as there as we have it for me right now. And almost always, yes. A couple of days. But other than that, it's usually fun. Great. So does anybody else have any questions? We have to Kathy about our report. Can I get a motion, please? To accept your report? We have to incorporate her report in minutes. Can I do a second, please? But what would that mean to you? I'm sorry. I think we have to incorporate her report in minutes. Oh, OK. All in favor? Aye. Aye. OK. Moving on. And I said you seconded it. Open up. Yeah. Exactly. Just so you know, you did that. You did that. Yeah, you did that by saying everybody else. OK. On to old business, the status of the grant projects. So the bids are due Friday. There's a kickoff meeting from the selection committee on Friday. And then we won't meet again until after everything's been scored by the individual participants. So since a lot of people are on vacation next week, my guess is that that scoring is not going to happen until toward the end of the month. I'm sorry. And it's my fault. My problem is kickoff meetings. Just the people who will be scoring the responses are getting together on Friday to just go through the rules. That's what purchasing calls it is a kickoff meeting. OK. Just to verify the Canadian. We have a pre-did mandatory meeting for the companies that wanted to bid. We had seven contractors there. And it went very well. It took about an hour and a half. They walked around, measured, and talked, and learned about the rules for responding, and went quite well. So that's about all the things I have. Just in process. Hopefully some of them were the ones that we were hoping for. Yes, some of them were. Although I can't comment. I know. OK. OK. Yeah. All right. Any other questions? Word Reapers have been referred to the grant process. And I haven't spoken to Ann yet, but she's on my list. She's been out. How about the grant? The potential for third funding. OK. Great. So we're going to move along onto our 22 open houses in the Santa. Right around the corner here, guys. So we don't know when we'll be here the whole time, right? We don't need to make sure that that's on our calendar. And we're not going to have to stay here. Yeah, unfortunately we won't. I know. December 2nd is the house right out the corner. I might have a nervous breakdown. You might have a nervous breakdown. Or I could just be really... Just a zombie. Hopefully. Another question. Hi, Mary. Should we go ahead and check in with some of our alumni to see if they'd like to come and help? I think that would be a good idea. Because if we can't all be here for the whole period, hey, somebody might want to come and do that because it could be considered an opportunity. And I think it's, again, another way that we can reach out to possible our members and reconnect and see if they're still interested and in helping and whatnot. So that sounds good to me. I would not recruit too many. Two or three. Maybe four. I think we're here for the whole time. So it wouldn't be a shift thing. It could be for the past four members. What are the hours of it? It's 3.30 to 10. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. What are the hours of it? It's 3.30 to 8. We need to be here when? 3.15. So we need to be here at 3.15. Probably to 8.15. Or until we're done. And it is Janet's birthday. So if she has come home, she may have to be happy. I think we just did two last year. I don't know. My son. I didn't surprise me. He had help. So who knows what happens. Well that's one of the most things with the surprise. I don't know. I don't get to see another on the off at dinner with my kids. So I think it would be better. You did. Family first. Family first too. Okay. I had no idea. Is it the second? On that subject, Karen, would you be willing to which, honestly, should it come from the Secretary, Karen, or should it come from, who's willing to do it? To do what? To reach out to the passport members. Okay, I can do it. Karen's got all the contact information. I don't have any. I have to get it from you, so. She'd be more than willing to do it. I'm glad to do it. It would probably be nice if everybody had that list. Well, at some point, I think that's great. So we have everybody's things. Is there anything else that we need to do in regards to the Senate or the House? Do we have the schedule and everything set up? We figured out all the timing and stuff last year. Unfortunately, due to my mother's death, I was here at that time. But I believe it worked out really well. And so we're not recreating oil in any way, chief. So long as the registration law is the same kind of setup, right? Except you all are doing some movement differently so that there's not a confusion of how many people can get into a lot of trouble. Actually, no matter what we do, that's okay. Don't be somebody that is lost. And you know, like last year, Beth and I kept close eye on it. Got fair vacation, got people arranged the way that we were looking to arrange it. We'll do the same thing this year. The difference will be that they'll need a registration for each person instead of one registration serving for four. And we haven't quite decided what we're going to open it. But it'll be in November and we'll advertise it when... What do we do? My question is, do we need to meet before at any point because we didn't need the panelists to report us to? I don't think so. So are we just going to use the same kind of language? Yeah, we're going to use the same. We're just changing it to reflect the difference in registrations. And we're getting inquiries already. But frankly, opening it this early would just mean more work in terms of making sure people are coming. And I think we would have a lot more no-shows. Whereas if you do it two weeks before the event, the commitment level and the awareness of people's calendars will be much higher. And we won't spend as much time, you know, cancelling people and, you know, re-entering people off the wait list and all that kind of stuff. I'm not even suggesting that earlier. I'm just asking if we, as a board, need to meet to do anything as per... Yeah, we need to come decorate, but we've already got that on the calendar. That's on the calendar instead, so... Yeah, I accepted. So... When will that be a constant contact? It would go probably right as it's opening. Yeah. I mean, it will be filled probably within 10 minutes of it going out, so... It'll be the first day before it opens. Well, I still think we should consider that we might want to do more than one. If we're having some on you people, and it is such a positive... Why recreate the wheel, and if we already got a good system, there's something to be said that we might do it more than one day. Not this year, but... Not this year. Not this year, but for future dates, it's something to be considered. Well, some of that depends on Santa's availability, too. Well, she has lots of gigs. So we'll talk about that coming into next year. But we could also maybe look at getting an additional center, if we need to. Okay. Okay, so moving on to the house manager's pictures. Do we have the rails? I did not order it yet for a couple reasons. Are you aware that there's already a picture rail up there? Wouldn't you have one? Yes. So... One of the issues is that we wanted to have the metal one instead, so we're not... Wanna damage the wood? Wanna damage the wood? And the teeth? I don't think it would hurt at all. That's what it's designed for. So I looked at it, and those wires are six feet long. So the wires are gonna go almost all the way to the floor. They don't quite get to the edging, to the trim. Yeah, but we can shorten those as needed. Okay. They're pretty fragile, and if you mess with them, then they don't hang straight. So if you start cutting them and bending them, they don't hang very straight. I've used them for signage and trade shows. And the other concern I have is the weight of the pictures. Are the frames gonna be fairly small? Because if there's no weight on the wires, it's not gonna hang straight. They're really designed for bigger frames, for art gallery kinds of shellings. One straight should hold three to four pictures. So they will be enough weight. It's still pretty nominal, like four by six or five by seven. Okay. And we were planning on using more like antique frames or time period frames for that period. So some could be pretty substantial. So we need hooks for every picture. That was the other thing I was confused about. We need hooks for every picture. Do we know how many pictures we have so far? We have all the pictures that we're going to. I just want a number. Yeah. Well, because we're not... I just want to order all at once. We're putting a frame for every person, so it doesn't matter. It's in the book. But you need a hook for every frame. Yes. So I need to know how many frames so I can get the right... So it's in the same number as five. Okay. I have just a quick question on that. I haven't really seen it in action before. But that's kind of a narrow hallway where you're going to use it. Now, if people walk by fast and bump their shoulders against it or something, is that gonna make everything the same? It is. But if there's enough weight, it will go back where it should. It shouldn't. It really shouldn't. I mean... I guess it was on... Because it's such a narrow hallway up there. It is a narrow hallway. And I would like to think that we're going to use the whole hallway. One of the things we had discussed is about moving with that full rack. There's really nowhere else to put it. Yeah. It's going to be there. There's really nowhere else to put it, but it doesn't interfere with something else. It would be better to move it. If we cannot go into the closet room, then it may be better to put it in the living room, but more toward where the sofa is right now. Because nobody's going in and out the door anyway. We use that foot rack whenever there's an event. And sometimes we have events upstairs and downstairs. So if we put it in the meeting room, then people downstairs don't have access to it. So the hallway is really the best place for it. It is great. I think it's... Maybe we can think that through a little bit more. I think it's cluttery, and I think it's impeding on the walkway up there. I do, and I think it would be better if we moved the coat rack. Most of the egress is through the meeting room itself. So people don't... That hallway doesn't get used for anything but the coat rack. Literally. It can't go in the closet. That's our only storage area. And that's also where we put the desk when we have events. So... Of course, it's a storage area. We need both. I mean, we need both. They're both full. So I'm unwilling to give up storage space. Well, maybe we can think through... and see if there's another possible place that we can cover it for. I mean, is there anywhere that we can reorganize? The storage? We reorganize it all the time. I mean, this is where it goes. It's real. That's where it works. So we could set it to there. We could, but I don't think it's very nice looking. It's functional. It's not going to be nice looking anywhere. I understand. But where it's at, it's very... It is not actually a fire hazard. Getting it up and down the stairs is problematic. Well, it might mean that it has to have a new permanent home downstairs. But the maybes are mostly upstairs. Yeah, but they come in the front door. Well, I'm not really crazy about putting it downstairs. Can't give it a lot. Let's just let it simmer. Or did you put it down here? Just there. No one goes through the door to the door to shut that door. That's so pretty though. I know everything is pretty weird. But functional. I think we're going to have a copra. Yeah, kind of gone. I'm sorry. You've got to have a copra. Yeah, they have a handy. The thing I appreciate about this project is that if you do it and you get the board up or the web bar up and the pictures, you all look at it and you go, amazing. It's awesome. You can look at it and go, huh, interesting. And take it down and move it around. Or like the copra can move. You can look at it and go, not what I thought it would be. You can move it back. You're not tearing down a wall. You're not pouring anything concrete. I mean, there's... Well, that's part of the reason why we wanted to do the hanging system in person is no damage to the walls. That we can move it or rearrange it as needed. We also wanted to utilize that wall for not only the manager's pictures, but we're looking at doing the board appreciation. And we're trying to figure out how to manage to fit everything. Currently, that wall we want to use for the manager's pictures and acknowledging the work that they've done. And I think... And then when you come up the stairs, the cove racks right there, and it actually takes up a lot of space. And to me, that's somewhat of a fire hazard and an issue. I agree with Kathy. I don't necessarily want it down here. It would be more functional if it was down here, because it takes away from the prettiness of the parlor. But so impressive in the first career. But they have to move it for Christmas. Could we move it? I think you'd be better off moving it into even to the bride's room or into the meeting room, but leaving it right in the hallway there. So then I come back down to, Ken, is there any way that we can rearrange storage from the closet into the porch area and just reuse the porch area as storage? I think we have to go up there and stand there and look at it while we have that discussion. Does the cove rack have to move to do the pictures? I don't remember that as my previous discussion. There's enough room for what they're doing now. I love the cove racks. We're talking about something that's future then. But I think if you're looking at a hanging system, then we were planning on using the whole wall. We weren't just planning on this. But do we need the whole wall right now is my question. Because that's against the beauty of the hanging system. Right. I think if you're going to plan for a hanging system, you're going to use the whole wall. That's a good idea. I think if you're going to plan for a hanging system, you're going to use the whole wall even if you don't necessarily incorporate it. If you're serious that we're going to use it and hang it on to the wood, and you have no problem with that, we're hanging it on to the wood, which could cause damage. We're going to put coals in the wall. So that causes damage too. How much damage to the wall? Is there anti-walls? They are anti-walls. They're a limited amount of anchoring compared to what you would do for each individual picture. So that was one of the reasons why we looked at it, and we discussed it. Did we want to use the hanging system, or did we want to use the current wood that was in there? It was about the historic preservation of it and trying to do as little damage as possible. The other point I would make is it's very hard to get anchors in the plaster for anything. So even trying to anchor the rail might be very difficult. I realize that because the horse dirt plaster, there's just nothing to latch onto. Right. Yeah. So that's why we were trying to hook it in and go to the whole length of the wall and we looked at trying to hook it into something that's behind it. The problem is there isn't anything behind it. It's today's construction. There's no two by fours. There's nothing to hook it to. When we tried to hang this picture, it came down like six times before we finally got able to stay up. They finally had to screw into the brick. There's no brick. It's an interior wall. They didn't use two by four frames. It's all plaster on length. So there's a layer of stuff that's not hard. Right. So I don't know if we can get anchored in or not. And I can talk to facilities and see what they think. See if we're going from door frame to door frame, I thought at least there would be an anchoring process right within that area. And that's within what the door frame is. Where the door frame is. Where the door frame is. Where there have to be something. Let me talk to facilities and see what they think about hanging off the wall. Yeah, of course. I'll ask them to come check. Because we really have a hard time hanging that picture. Of course it's heavier than what we're talking about. Another thing I wanted to notice, do you want aluminum or white? It comes in two different colors. I think we go with aluminum. The color is off. It's kind of off white. Do you have a preference? I'm trying to match the wall as close as possible. I look quite good. You guys look quite good to be better? The thing is, as you move the pictures, it's going to... Is it called scar? The color will shift. You've got what you've got. If you want to go with white, that's fine too. They're pretty thin wires, right? So really, it's kind of a non issue. So if we want to go with white, that's fine. They're thin. They're visioning this, right? They're not overly thin. They're pretty sturdy. They're pretty sturdy. Maybe it's fine to go with aluminum. I personally would just go with aluminum. If you're moving anything, and it is scratching or moving with white paint from because I imagine it's painted over. I don't know. Let's just do the aluminum. That's fine. That's fine. The point is the point is the other thing I think I'm going to do is I'm going to call the museum. They use that stuff all the time and just see if they have any recommendations. They may have a system they already use that they've had really good luck with. I did do that research and this is used in the museums, this specific product. I also went to the Great Fran up and talked to the owner there and we used the system when we did the framing in the old firehouse and also when we had the art studio up and used this system we used. Perfect. That research is done. That's why we're talking about doing three to four frames and we're talking about not doing super super light frames. Think about a friend that you would do for the 1920s. It's going to be heavier more Art Deco. It's weighing it down. It's not going to sway. The big thing is depending on what art projects you use for your hang, it's going to be substantial enough that it could hold weight but also not so Dwyer is not so bendable that it's going to be efficacious. The system is easy to use. And not all art pieces are enormous. But I agree with him. Why are we talking about the coat rack until we get pictures? Because we're talking about the whole wall. If you're going to do that. Well, I think we should do figure out the wall first. I'll get it harder. Is it aluminum? We're going to use it. Let's give it, let's put that similar for now. Okay. Moving on. We'll get the wire the hanging system ordered. But I want a clarification. You're going to be talking to Kathy, you're going to be talking to facilities about where's the best way to anchor. Well, and if they think we can anchor it. I will talk to them. See if they can find something to hook it to. Okay. Moving along and still in the same point. Past and present board members while we acknowledge that project. How do you get that? We've got a high quality scan and it's on their list. It's on their list. Cool things to do. And I'm sure they've got quite a list, right? They do. I've got a, I get 15 minutes of her time today at 3 o'clock. So that just says you've got 15 minutes. Alright, you better talk fast. We've given this two minutes so we better talk fast. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Okay. We can actually unless somebody has something to say about the scrapbooks, Connie didn't comment to me about anything more about the scrapbooks. So I have nothing to add to that point. Unless you ladies have something for the scrapbooks or in regards to moving on to the plan and house advice report and no report. We have a meeting set for the 18th and we'll be talking about how we're going to incorporate the past three years in the report. That's 10 o'clock, right? Yes. Here. That's basically all the short and sweet on that one. So 2021-22? Correct. We've got those three years. Okay, just making sure. Sorry. Yes. Okay, on to the board retreat agenda. I'll look at Kathy's time enough to print out. Sorry. Okay. So we're basically looking at Article 5, duties of officers. We decided last month not to have Vice Chairperson, so he would be eliminated. Correct. Well, yes and no. I think we should have stated on who should be handling. Okay, if it isn't going to be the Vice Chairperson meeting, if the President's then who should be the next person in line? Secretary? Is that included within Robert's rule of order? It should be. Yeah, but it's normally listed as the next officer. Well, I think the Secretary, she's busy picking. It should be the historian. I think it's helpful if it's clearly stated. Somebody wants to do it. How about a volunteer position? Volunteer. Yeah, we're not a We want to do this a volunteer? Yeah, that's how we've done it. Since we're kind of a small volunteer. You could say a past President could just do it, but most people I mean Chairman, why would it say a volunteer basis? A volunteer basis or past chair? I'm going to say a volunteer because anybody might not have a good reason or might not be able to do it that way. There's always somebody who will step up and do it. I still think it's better if we just put it in and so it's clear. Okay, that's great. A volunteer. Does he speak about a volunteer? Yeah. Where were you putting that? Chairman B. It says vice chairperson. There won't be one of them. I'll be just swinging it up and under chairperson. That's part one. Where it's presided on meeting some of the advisory board. Should the chairperson be absent? A volunteer board member will so it can assess capacity. That's better. Thank you. And then we just move everybody up. Secretary B. Senator. What was the color coding? Right, what's it written on? Yellow is suggested language blue is language that's currently in there suggesting. On secretary number two that's fine the way it's written but don't send it to Kathy because she's got a published one. Instead of sending it to the chairperson the district should be sent to house manager. Technically the chairperson can't distribute it. But what we did do secretary would get it to the chairperson because that person would be the second surprise to prove it and check it. This is a great board, wait a minute this needs to be corrected or that needs to be changed or whatever. That's the thing we did do years ago and it worked well and it needs to adapt. I don't think there's a problem that we add more than one so why don't we say chair to both? Why don't we say that it goes to both? Because to me that makes sense. That it goes to the chair as well as Kathy or house manager. So why don't we provide them to the chair and the house manager and the house manager and I have no problem with removal of the vice chair and I have no issues with the new language of adding it up and that we just added in regards to having a volunteer replace and then I have no problems with the removal of the bed language. A3 refers to the executive committee which has been we decided we didn't need that. That was last month. I think that the official executive committee is the officer so do we just need to change it so that the officers So it says officers instead of executive committee? Where are we? I think the more fingers we get in the agenda the harder it's going to be clutch it on time. That has to do with the annual report. Is that what you were going to do? No. 3 says A3 A3 I think that does go to the officers because usually the officers of a big group provide care for the agenda. Currently that's not happening. It has been in the past. The way it's been done since I've been I've been doing the agendas for most of the time until already came. I mean I've been doing the agendas the whole time I've been here until recently. Is it an issue worrying with the document? I think it's important that that that the committee has to say and I and I'm not trying to disagree with you but I am going to disagree with you because we're talking about this. They've always had their say on how the agenda's been set. So I don't I think that it's important even if we just write it as the officers receive a monthly agenda and support it. I don't think it should be all unhappy to get supporting documents together. I really think that's that is adding to her duties and I think that we as committee members can do some of that white work. I don't think it's a bad thing to have the committee members have say. The final line is it goes to Kathy before it's put out in the first place. So the city has the final say in how the agenda goes out because she's the one that is posting it for the rest of the end protocol. But I do think it's important that we as a committee have a say in the agenda. In the past Kathy would always ask for items because I'm the agenda and we always get an email. I had no problem with that because it's kind of slowed down the whole process. And the other thing there's seven others here and I think to keep drawing lines saying this is an executive committee this is an officer. There's only seven of them. If you want something sent out send it to everybody. You can send it to me though. So if you have an agenda item to add you can certainly send it to myself and the chairperson. It's a small group that makes more sense. I think it actually is more collaboration. I don't think it's divisive at all. I don't think it's division. It is because we are a small committee. There's three. Three is half of the committee. In a lot of ways it's just adding more voices that are being heard. But we want to write it in and say you would prefer that we do the email aspect. Let's figure out how we're going to put it in and say that agenda items. Here's the how do we put that in for the officers? We're looking at these officers. It's kind of written in here. Receive monthly agenda items. Receive. And supporting documentation from board members. Prepare monthly agenda. The agenda itself. It already says that. So then we just take out the wording with the executive authority. For my experience we're creating your agenda for next week based on how you proceed through this agenda this time. So can people present provide input like that new business or future agenda items? I see you guys do that. I just want to give you guys that observation. It just makes more sense to me. It's just simpler. So why don't we just take out the wording with executive committee? Can we just take out the wording with executive committee? Yes. I also think you need to take out the words director of community services. What do you think? Yeah, that's not the one. Oh, that's okay. That's the one. Let's carry on. Okay. And yeah, that's from the past because in the past we had the director of community services and then also managers would do. And basically, that was our staff liaison. That was our staff liaison. Well, and the the other comment I would have is I don't think it's going to get published prior to the meeting. Yeah, we talked about that before if we decided Friday before it was because I think that came up at the retreat that deal before we voted that down. I don't think we ever even got to this part. I remember talking about it. We talked about it in this discussion but we never made a decision on it. Well, we did. The Friday of the week before was sufficient. Yeah, no. I don't know that it was at the retreat but it's been a topic of discussion. It's been a topic of discussion but when you're looking for that because I think it was a matter of you were looking for it and not finding it. An option might be five or more days at the retreat. That wasn't that but this was discussed earlier we decided not to be in advance. So it's going to be by the Friday. It's five days in advance of the meeting. By Friday. Not one week, but by Friday. I would put five days on the opportunity. Yeah. All that could be becoming possible. It's possible. We have discussed that the meeting times and dates may change depending on who's on board and who's in guest service. So I think it's five days. You can say it. So if you move your meeting to Thursday and then five days from Saturday to Friday. I would just say five days. Five days. So we don't have to keep changing the bias. It gets posted by end of day Friday. So technically it could be four days before the meeting. The point though is that we wanted to I usually just spend five days taking weddings. Technically I have to be posted 24 hours that's the city roll. For the public but that's five days is fine. So we're done. Okay. So we're going to be taking out the contribute to the monthly agenda with I think we say the staff liaison and... Which letter are you on though? I thought I was going to say my A3. Prepare monthly board meeting agenda. With staff liaison. Okay. Technically I'm one of those two. Yeah, that's true. That's the point. And I would just say five days prior to the board meeting. You don't need to say the next. Yes. You want to say five weekdays? I mean five just calendar days. Five days in there. Five days. I think it is important prior to the next board meeting because that's a clarification that you're doing this before the next board meeting. Prior to the board meeting. Okay. So three is received monthly agenda items. Prepare monthly board meeting agenda. With staff. Sorry. Where are we at? The agenda will be posted before the second five days prior to the board meeting. I'm good with that. What do you think? It works. Okay. Moving on to four. I'm good with taking out... What? I'm good with that. Okay. I'm good with taking out it's the blue and moving to the yellow. One thing about the yellow I think there's a little too much detail in there. I mean different chairpersons might have different ways of wording things but you have for including board meetings goals, accomplishments, house revenues, details of total gets, family and house. Do we have to have all that in the bylaws? I think we have it stated before we are reporting on this. The original one was just right and delivered to city council and reported for proceedings. Callahan house goals and accomplishments, house revenues total client service. How is that really different from what was there before? I think the clarification of what's been done in the past is again the clarification. I don't have a problem with that. Just as a new person on that doing that it gives me that's exactly what I want. I want a clarification that's part of the reason I like it better because it's clear and concise so if I'm reading what the duties of that office is supposed to be doing I'm prepared to know what I'm doing and I'm not lying at all and I like that. We bring it to the board it looks like in December but we often don't have a board meeting in December. That's not true. That's not true. We just didn't do it the last year. It was a combination. Between last year I'm like between everything and it didn't help that my mother died. It was a combination of why that meeting was cancelled. With the current changes that we've made can I get a motion please? Are we done? I think we did. We moved through it. It has everybody read anything. I thought we were going to move it. Take out B and then move secretary B and D would be C and anybody else have an issue. Karen would you read for me please what you think? A3 is going to say I just want to make sure I get it. Receive monthly agenda items and it's a great occupation for board members. Prepare monthly board meeting agenda with staff liaison and house manager so the agenda will be posted along with the board on the packet by five days prior to the board meeting. I thought we were taking out the word house manager and just putting staff liaison. I don't know I think it needs to be two they are well practically practically speaking you know that one person the office staff is probably going to work on the agenda. The more people we pull in the harder it's going to be to get it published five days before the meeting. I think it's acceptable to have it as the two and even though Karen is no longer serving in her position well right now your two staff liaison are sitting right here and Swellin has not been involved in the agenda at all and we're going to be input at the board meeting. We're getting input. That's my experience actively observing is that you guys are actually creating the agenda at the meeting. If you're at the meeting you can say next meeting can we talk about or whatever. I like the ability we know how we're doing but I think we've stated that she's included in the process for centuries and Gaffey isn't in that position and we need to put it through her she's the next tier and I think it's just I personally it's a clarification. So why don't you just say staff liaison and take our work house manager because we're technically we're both liaison. We're both liaison. I believe it's appropriate to have it as the staff liaison. Because it is one. Your job title is house manager. And staff liaison. But for purposes of anyone stepping in to something this new and going okay wait a minute so who's who and just finding clarification is easy it's not going to cause any more work or any competition it's just clear. I see Karen's point but I just see my point that it could be just staff liaison. I think for clarification from coming in, why and you know anything about this board this is helpful. That's the only reason I like this. Having both of them. Although you're not probably going to call Sue Ellen and ask her what she wants to do. On the board stuff on the internet my title is staff liaison. It's not house manager. If I knew to the board would have probably only seen that. Or somebody who's looking at it from the outside. Does that make sense? Somebody knew to the board. It's house manager. Let me just keep it. It's fine. It's fine to the world. It's going to die. We're going to redraft these and get them out for again to me so I can and how about if I provide them to you and you can That would be nice. Moving on I'm the secretary. We had already discussed number two. Prepare written and provide them to the chairperson and we had already had it and changed it. Once again it wasn't a house manager. Okay. Moving on to number three. I don't think it's on item C. I thought we had looked at that. Is there any issues with removing of those words or changing the language? Okay. So I thought we had gone through everything. Is there any other issues or corrections? Okay. I move we accept these changes as discussed. All in favor? Aye. Moving on. Okay. Board recruitment deadline and board application interviews. Alright. So I gave you each a copy of the modified interview template. So you can take a look at it. I think the important thing is we need to decide when we're going to do the interviews. So I had clarification being at Park and Right Board Monday night. Jeff had talked about that when we talked about this back in May, there wasn't a ton of guidance. Yeah, absolutely. That the guidance they're giving is one to two board members do the interviews. Oh. That's the guidance that City Clerk is giving. That's what they're doing. And one of the main reasons Jeff talked about it is that if you have the group now you have a posted meeting if you're doing that as a group. That's what it was. So he is one of the hero who wants to be those two people. Well, for us I thought we could have up to three and still not have a posted meeting. That's the guidance from City Clerk. They haven't sent anything out. Jeff got. I hadn't heard that. I haven't seen anything. Do you want to check on that? I just heard this on Monday night. Okay. Yesterday wasn't a day for you to follow up on. Okay. I hear one to two. I think it's better if we do three. Personally. Because then there's it's more even. If we are going to when we've had representation and doing stuff. What is that other's thoughts on? We consider doing the full board. That's what we said last time. Part of the problem is you'll have people from that board they can't be involved in the interviews. They'll be interviewed. So there's an issue there. But Well that's the whole except people can get themselves from certain life. For example I'm going to be applying and so I would accuse myself. So that being said we're down to the smaller group anyway. I personally don't. I'm not arguing it. I will check with Michelle and see what they're telling people. I know that the city council interviews are set for December 10th. So that implies that we have to do the board interview process in November. And they I think it was extended. The registrations have been extended. So let's make some quick clarification. It's been extended to the 30th part. So I'm happy. Please. Can you have it again? There are three applications in the system. But Michelle told me that one of them is probably just because she applied to all kinds of boards that it's been since May and they haven't had any been able to get a hold of her or anything since then. So at the moment I have a list. Candies applied. A lady we don't know has applied into this third lady. I have a list here somewhere. I just got so many different things. I just under my general question. That's not Candie. Candie's done. Here it is. I'm sorry. Brittany Lynn Hastings. And then the third lady that they think it probably isn't Sirius K. Palmer Marsh that she applied to all of them a long time ago. She applied back in May. She applied to all kinds of boards. So Michelle told me she didn't think that was a legitimate application. So. And then I've heard from Diane Beerline who indicated she was going to put in an application. And we have three openings. Technically I think we have four. Only four. You're kind of yourself and you're actually you're just going to read. So you're not a new person. I am going to read. It's been a month. I was relieved when Kathy said that I was really at that process when Kathy said it's been put off till the 24th. So. Sorry. So much information to be reported. Kathy, has something changed on this? No. I just printed it again to make sure that the changes had actually been made. And to give everybody an opportunity to look at it before we did the interviews. And I appreciate that. I personally think we plow ahead with what we originally planned. But if we get instruction otherwise I would recommend that there's three of us. And your concern was the date. Well. We have to get it before city council that is the 10th. It's the 10th of December. But if my point is if we're going to do it in November in conjunction with the board meeting, I think we need to decide that soon. I think. Maybe today. I think we decide it now. Right. We decide that we will be doing this in November. Okay. I'm assuming that they'll all be better. At the conclusion. With a deadline of the 24th. Well City Clerk have done all of their stuff by the 9th in order for us to do the interviews. I hope so. It looks to me like they're doing it now. Right. Like as they come in and they're doing it. Ask that question. I'll have a question. And I think we might have touched on this a couple of months ago. If the applicants will be at the November 9th meeting now. Didn't we talk about doing it before? I had the first thing so that then they could leave. I understand that you guys were looking at 8 o'clock or 8.30. So we were meeting at 9 at that time. Yeah. And then they were going to say for the meeting. Otherwise they're going to have to say to the whole meeting. I think it's too early to force the whether it's going to be a meeting. I was to be here before. I think it's better that we have interviews after the board meeting. I was going to say that as well. Since we've moved the meeting up. I think we do it at the conclusion. So we have a hard stop at like exactly. Hard stop and start interviews. Yeah. Maybe plan for a shorter meeting and start the interviews at 10. I can just keep what we do with our business. And then we start at a 10. I think a few hours and then we are able to wrap up. If you have a desire to have a full board there you will need to do a different time because you do have a hard stop for a board member at 10.30. That's well known. If you want the whole board there for the interview you can have interviews at 10.30. Except we've always had it. I understand that Janet is the one. I think that Janet is the one that's your part. You have this wonderful obligation that you take care of every Wednesday. And that's your choice to do that on that. It's okay. And considering that you're stepping off the board I would hope that maybe you would not feel offended with going forward after the board meeting. But I think it's just for an hour or one to be able to say that it's done before noon. I'll be grabbing that crazier in the morning. So Janet is actually eligible to reapply. She is. Yes she is because she has an incomplete term for her first term. But I didn't know. So she is eligible to reapply if I want. Yes. So 24th. Yeah. You better think about it. I didn't think it a lot. Okay. So did I take it in complete term as well then? I don't know off the top of my head. I don't know if I took the first term. I'll look. I have it in my head. Michelle sent me a thing so I can actually see. It's a bit hard to keep track of. So she has a visual thing that she can show the slots and who filled each slot. So it actually shows if you took part of the partial term. Is that good. You took over for DIPA. And I'm quite certain I'm generally for sure. Yeah, I'll look. I honestly don't know. It's really, it's very hard to keep track. OK. But the clerk saw this keeps track. The other thing we could do is we could do the interviews first and do the board meeting after. So we could do the interviews at 8.30 and do the board meeting following. Yeah, I think it's important for everyone who is a board member to be present and for the board meeting. And if you can move on to hear the obligation by 10.30, then that would make it so that you're more available for the board meeting. I don't think that's fair to you. He said there are only a few that are doing the interviews. He's only got like four. Well, that's the question. We don't know yet. Well, yeah. Instead of the board. So that would make sense. If it's going to go down to that there's not the answer. That's the question. Or maybe there's one. Or are you three applying? Or are you two? Janet. Or she may reapply. And Connie is leaving. Connie is leaving. Connie is leaving. But Connie, her candy has come back. At least she'll be fine. Well, her candy is red light. Yeah. But here's the deal. That leaves you three. I think what Ben is getting to is the board members. Who's left? So. Three. And Karen. Well, Connie is still, she has Connie, Karen. We have Karen, Karen, and Ian. And Connie. So the point being that if Janet were to reapply, her interview would have to be in time for her to make her an obligation. We do whatever we need to do. Or if we need to make exceptions, we can make exceptions then to, to if somebody has a time to share. I mean, isn't that what we do anyway? Sure. If, if somebody can't come up at the time, we'll make an exception and we'll figure it out. That's a good question. For the people who have already, like you said, who have served already for three years, do we really have to ask all these questions? I mean, you have to ask everybody the same question. Otherwise, it's considered a problem. Yes. Oh, yeah. I think it is. No. What? They got more precise. Well, it's changed. I think the bottom line is just to keep it a continuity throughout and then it doesn't feel like there's favoritism going on. And I think that's the whole point is that there is a clear, concise, and I don't, I'm not against that. So if there's an issue with, with January applying and it's a time conflict, I think with any person applying to the board, these board members would in fact, under that, that issue take, take, take and look at it whether we need to have an additional time for both. I think that's in, in, in this sense, though, I do think that we do have the interviews after the board meeting because it then puts us right within what the city's telling us that we need to do. And we'll work down to, to four, before, instead of three. But it's still, and we're posting it right when we're posting the board meetings. So we'll be posted with the board meeting that we'll be doing these interviews after it's right within. Couldn't we just post it that way? I need to figure out how they're posting it because I know when the, the Historic Preservation Board did their interviews that it was not part of their posted meeting. And if we have four, then it needs to be posted. If we knock it down to three, then we don't have to post it. Well, and again, I'd like to see us following the city guidelines. So we'll get clarification on that. Again, with that, I'm going to, my thought is one to two is not going to be written in stone. But so, so, I don't care, but I think three is probably plenty and a good number. Okay. So then if we knock it down to three, then it shouldn't be an issue that we can put it and do it directly after the board meeting on that day. And we wouldn't have to post it. Do we have three volunteers that would want to interview, stick around after that meeting? Yes. I'm available, but I would like to have the opportunity to issue. First. Yes. Okay. So. Okay. Solve that problem. Issue. Okay. Yeah. So how many minutes is each of you supposed to last? I think it's up to us to decide. I'm just planning on 45 minutes. Her interview? It sounded like a lot to me. Oh. Her person? That's a lot. My first interview is five minutes. Maybe I'll take your eyes now about that time. Wait a minute. I'll retry that. I'm not doing that. These are pretty straightforward questions. I think 20 minutes, 15 to 20 minutes. 15 to 20 is max. Yeah. My question is, do you want to know my whole life history? Should I bring in my mother's maiden? Right. Issue size. Yeah. My first interview was five minutes. That seems excessive. That's excessive. We have minutes of the, what? Plenty. I think we should allow ourselves 15. 15, but 10 would probably be enough. Right. I think it's just trying to go to the audience. I think it's just trying to go to the audience. Yeah. I mean, we're not in our 30s. We're a senator to the Congress. Exactly. President of the United States. 20s are perfect because if you spent two minutes on each one of these. Schedule 15 to 20 if it goes less straight. And then you kind of need to talk in between. I think the 15 to 20 minutes. They could schedule 20 of them. Yeah. Have we narrow it down? 20 minutes. They have a little talking time. Yeah. Because you don't want to be on a lot. Because you might get a chatty test. What? Who knows. I'm not going to name names, but... Chatty what? Chatty. Chatty person. Chatty person. Chatty person. Chatty person. Chatty Marine, whatever. It can't be person being Karen. That's right. It can't be person being Karen. Remember, I was so nervous for my first interview. I was in and out of there so quick. I was like, gosh. I don't have time to sweat. You know, why do I get dressed up? Well, the good thing is like their city council is trying to... Stream. Have some more... Well, it's streamlined for them. But it's have some more depth on the front end. Okay. I see. People who are involved. So, I think in general it's a really good idea. Yeah, I think so too. Your guys feedback is certainly should have... A lot of bearing into that. I'm glad they're going this direction. Okay. So, there we go. Is there any more discussion in regards to the board recruitment, deadline, and board application interviews? Yes, ma'am. Mouthful. All right. On to new business, club survey questionnaire. Yeah. I just want you to take a look at this. The front side is the letter. Thank you. The opposite side is the question. Okay. I got two. Okay. I think it's a... Is it funny? Oh, yeah. Okay. I want to thank you ladies for adding the questions into the speakers. It was... I think it's great. Good. I think it's good. And I know you did, and I know Connie did. And I think that's great. Can people submit their responses by email? What is the... I guess I was thinking it was like a satisfaction survey. But some of the first questions tell me it's probably something based on... for applying for any grant. Is that some of the... Yeah, and you get the letter. Interesting. Right? Yeah. Now, the question is how to get this out to the clubs. I personally think that we should take it to the clubs and directly. First of all, I think it's hard for people to put off somebody that's standing in front of them and introducing yourself as a board member and saying, would you please fill out this question? And it's important for us. This is why I'm so and so from the board. And then I know the clubs need. I know they've got an agenda of what they're doing. But I think it's important that if we put a face, they're going to be more inclined to do it. And let them. That's important. You're a veteran. And because we need this, we need the separation for our reports. So what do you guys think? Is there a... We're close. Is there a due date on there? Yes. No, November 30th. That's why we should get this out of the better. I think at the last meeting, we talked about letting them fill out a meeting or something. Could they just hand it in as they leave? Absolutely. I don't have a problem with that. Because they're all here. That's all the more reason why I think it's important if we could get more numbers to step up and say, hey, I am so and so from the board. This is why we're doing this. Even if you have to read it to them and hand it and say, this is really important to us. We're really so pleased to have you here. But we need you to be able to answer this truthfully. Now, is this going to be... Again, I didn't read it clear enough. Well, every member of the group fill this out or even one member of the group fill it out? That's a question. I think it would be a collective. I think one group fill it out. One group fill it out. But it should be done to that day. So whoever leads their club would gather all... So that would be collaboratively. Put it together on one. On some of these, somebody's happy, somebody's not happy. Well, they can share it. I think that's part of the reason why if you have a personal person that's going to say, you know what, in part of you are happy, great. In part of you aren't, we still want to know. We want to know why. It is more important that you're filling out these questions truthfully and honestly. So you're going to get on a scale of five, how happy are you? Okay, you're going to have all five numbers. Then you're going to have five statements. So couldn't you just have five? Let each person fill up their own? You mean if there are only five members in a club that you want all five members? Well, for some of these... Like for the top ones are factual. So obviously a chairman of the club. But when it gets down to opinion, it's hard to have a consensus. Oh, that's a question. We can make that available if that's what they want. I doubt all of them will want to do it. I would doubt that too. Whatever. We can be accommodating. However, it works best for them. If you're putting all the answers in the spreadsheet, you could have 20 answers instead of five answers. Still, it'd be easier to pull averages. Well, I think we could get an additional sheet of paper. Okay, say Ann, you go to a meeting and there's 12 members. Okay. We could do 12 copies of this and ask them to fill it in. And then we could then... So depending on what they want... No, I mean how serious do you want each person's opinion? We want the opinion. We don't want it because if the person feels it out, it's extremely negative. But everybody else is very happy. We don't want that kind of opinion. It's a balance. Okay. We're going to fill it out. I think it should go to the chairperson. We can be there and share with the club. What we're there for and why. And we can have multiple copies available. Would you like to do this collaboratively? Or would you like to individually complete your own? Or would some of you like to collaborate in one person? It's okay. I think I'd let them decide. And I think that one minute introduction and drop them off and go. Because most of them, you know, they're on a mission to do what they're there to do. Exactly. But I still think it's important that we do that. Even if it's just the one to two minute introduction, I think it's key into getting it done. And to getting it done in a timely manner. And then I like and thank you for your input on that. Because if we have the paper there, we can quickly hand it out. So we just get two members that want to complain about everything. And that's fine. And that's fine. So whoever would like to fill it out? Great. If you would want to do it more as a collective group? Great. Or else if you do it as an opinion and you do it collective, some people aren't going to say anything. Because they obviously don't agree with what everybody else is saying about the supply. And then you don't report that. And then we're missing that piece. You're missing that piece. We want the information. Number 10. Yes. Technically we don't have any notice what there are to do service during the meetings. It's we're providing a meeting place. We do that for a few clubs. To distract them. They can say N-A. We get a water in the beginning, but that's it. The only two clubs, well the only club we do any service for anymore is Questers. We had an occasional holiday lunch. Can you insert the word any? Yeah, that would be fine. How many services? That's fine. But technically we don't have any on us to do service. We're providing a meeting place. But you don't supply coffee or... No, for the most part no. If they have refreshments they bring their own. Bridge provides coffee and Jacqueline makes it. We don't have any obligations. How about you start the sentence with if applicable, how would you rate? You said a few get it, so they can fill it out. But a few that don't get it just put nine. Need anything else? Instead of... Since I'm putting in if and for all, I'm leaving the services instead of any. How would you rate those services? I just have a question on the letter itself in the second paragraph including fulfilling a mission to reassuring the continued happiness. Some people happiness doesn't. We can start serving alcohol. Right. I would change the word satisfaction. Satisfaction, that's a good question. Satisfaction. Oh, turn it over. And it's right. Satisfaction. It's just something about just... Sure. Happiness. And the other comment I would have is we have the answers to the first five questions. For every club. It's just factual. Right. It will be easier for us to look at it that way. Although I do like the term happiness because... They are happy. The first five questions are all part of their contract. With the house. They're agreeing with the house. Okay. So is everybody else okay? Then there's the next thing we need to know. Kathy went out with the club's meeting. So we can... I can send you the club schedule. Who would like that? Me. I would. Anybody else that wants to help me do this? I'll help you do it. Anybody else? You want to help? Don't you want to help? Come talk to me. I just can't. So big deal. So big deal. If push comes to shove, we can distribute it too. I have to know the schedule. It depends on the schedule. How many clubs do you have? Seven. I'll send it out. Thank you. I appreciate it. And then we'll do it up. And then we'll go from there guys. For some reason there's a conflict. With my medical stuff. I do a lot of it. I would recommend it's just one person. I don't want it back. We should overwhelm during their own meetings. Just one person per meeting. Yeah. One person is doing all right. The other comment I would make is sometimes they don't show up. You might show up in there. Not very often. But once in a while. Twisted stitchers. We had one person last time. Because there was something going on and they didn't cancel the meeting. It doesn't happen very often. But it does happen occasionally. We'll do our best to get out there. If we go from that point, that would be great. All right. Thank you for the survey. And thank you for everybody's input on the questions. On to other business. Do we have any other business that needed to be included? I have at least one. We had a walking tour from the museum. And one of the attendees at the walking tour was a gentleman by the name of Thomas Bryant. And he's a docent at the Stanley Museum up in Estes Park. But he's also very interested in steam cars and turntables. So he came up that we didn't know whether or not the locomobile had a reverse gear or not. And he went and did some research for us. So he got a note. He sent a note and received a response from a woman by the name of Susan Davis. And she I'm trying to remember what her. She's a person who does hang on just a second. So I'm just going to read the note. It's probably easier that way. Hi, I heard you speak in Estes Park about a year ago and hope that you can answer a couple of questions. I give tours of the home there. The first garage turntable that I heard of was I'm reading the right order. This was from Thomas to Susan. The first garage turntable I heard of about was George Eastmans in Rochester, New York. I know he was a fan of the Stanley's. The second was Estes. Yesterday I toured the Calhann mansion in Longmont, Colorado. They also had a turntable and the first car was a 1903 locomobile, but it was a 1902. It was a chain drive Stanley locomobile capable of going in reverse. I heard it said that F.O. and Flora used to reverse to descend Mount Washington. But I think that sounds unlikely. It is my understanding that at some point reverse was a possibility by reversing the cylinder firing order. If so, when did that happen? Thank you for the information you can provide. And she set back a note and here's her response. Hi, Tom. Nice to hear from you. Thanks for reaching out. F.O. had a turntable in his home in Newton probably by 1898. Eastman and Calhann probably both got the idea from him. He may have had difficulty turning his head in closed space. Not sure. Stanley's locomobiles, steam train engines all have reverse. It's the nature of a two cylinder engine in the case of steam cars. Reverse is simply the action of reversing the valving. Locomobiles Stanley's only have two gears. Four in reverse, but we would use the word gear just because that's what people understood. And F.O. and Flora did indeed use reverse coming down Mount Washington as I did the two days I drove up and down in 2003 and our 1909 model R. And she sent a picture. Very tricky business to be sure. And not from the faint of heart. Especially on eight miles on an average 12% grade you might say exhausting. And then she sent a picture of herself driving the car. In other words, she bet. Well, down. No, the days act down. They used the reverse gear to and it's not a gear they use the they reverse the cylinder to slow it down. So it didn't really have a gear. The other thing he told me when I talked to him is that it went just as fast in reverse as it did in forward. So it was problematic because obviously you don't want to go in reverse as fast as you go in forward. Reverse gear, at least in the early incantations in these vehicles was very problematic. So that's why it was more it was better to drive forward to drive forward and that's why they had to do it. Imagine putting that reverse going full speed in that enclosed space. No. And especially when you didn't really drive they were just learning to drive. That can explain how she flipped her car. Okay. So it did have a reverse gear. Not a gear. They had two cylinders they reversed the cylinders to put it switch the cylinders to put it in reverse. Karen? Okay, thank you. Thank you for the information. I thought it was very interesting. That is. I'm so glad. It really needs more information to spark up conversations just like random conversations. And I'm so pleased that we are reaching the brief tour of the house and parent-mason's tours. I think it really is an outreach that it's something we can update in our dos and two or two because I know I've stated that it didn't have a reverse so it would be great to be able to update that and also state that the speed would be the same. Can you imagine? Can you imagine putting it in reverse you'd be going the same speed as if you're going forward. That problematic. I would think of it to the graduate every time. That's good. Thank you very much. We also did a school tour this month. Desinirata came and they were cute. A bunch of eighth graders. Very interested. Very involved. That's nice. Matt came to the museum too. That's good. And that was done this month? September? I think it's on September. So does the museum kind of partner with us? You know to send tours over here? He got a private request to do a tour. If he could bring them. I think that's great. Anywhere that we could. I'm trying to remember when it was. It was 929. Is that the phone? Yeah. It's on the report. But is it in the manager report? No. Can we get that up in the manager's report please? It is part of the manager's report. It's right here. At the manager's report it's as long as it's going to get. Because I do all the other stuff. So do you want all the detail or just some of it? Right. It's just helpful to be able to answer here. Okay. It says right there. Thank you. Did you charge anything? I didn't get to use it. You. We're at. 7. Future agenda. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not. Where is that? I'm not finding it. If they want me to. Okay. This is a. Okay. Moving on. Future house agenda items. Open houses. In January. In January. In the Christmas pack up. In November. So. Is there anything else that we need to add on to our future agenda items? Thank you for your time. Let's look at the journey. Can I get a. Okay. Can I get a second? Okay. All in favor. Thank you.