 Sharon, did you just start recording? I believe you may have had an attendee join. Yeah, let me take a look. Well, we can just, let's just finish up this discussion and then we can ask them. Sharon, I did have a question based on one of the responses and it was, sorry, sorry, Raphael, I'm focusing in on those responses. But there was something about disability, accommodation and computers with touch screen, touch pad. And I'm wondering how much of that would be a focus with the new building or like with the technology in the new building? I don't have an answer for that quite yet. So I feel like staff are still up here and there's going to be a trickle down as far as funding goes because we will be spending the construction project funds, but we also have JCPC funds for technology. And so whatever is used up during the construction project, then we have to go into the JCPC funds. So I don't know what will be left after that. So there's a complicated explanation for why I don't know yet. Okay, all right. But that's, it's an important, like that response is important. Yeah, especially with all the ADA compliance and all those other things we've been thinking about. All right. Is there anything else we want, do we want to speak to the survey? Any more, any more thoughts, Alyssa? I just was wondering, as people were reading the responses, if we had any thoughts about like, oh, that's different from what we thought we would get in relation to this question, or if anything, you know, felt like it was not really what we were going for. Or like, I was, again, I was like really pleased that the initial responses were so affirming, but I was kind of wanted to like lead, lead a little bit more like, no, really tell us what you think about us, you know, like, so it just was wondering if anyone was kind of like thinking about the questions themselves as they were reading the responses. There were a couple and again, this is like the outlier thing. People who responded in terms of, you know, other people don't feel comfortable at the library. I think he had talked about asking people to make I statements, but didn't ultimately ask them to make I statement. So that was interesting that the people, some of the people did that. And I kind of wish that we'd instructed them a little differently, but they probably still would have answered that way. Yeah, right. Yeah, I think also, I can speak a little bit. I know you guys were talking about there were some people who said, like, liberal inclusion Monday, which is contrary, but I think what they're getting at is like, and it kind of goes back to, I see, like, the graph in that, like, PowerPoint on the meeting, you know, the other, like, the distribution of our collections. And as you can see, there are a ton more of the BCQ price, but rather than any other category, so I think any kind of goes into the next agenda item of collections. Is that when we're like, we buy being collected and stuff that yet that community of people is incredibly important, but like, there are so many other communities that aren't represented very well, like I know, like, physical and mental disabilities fall down on that chart. So I think it's really important to try to, like, focus on. And I know that it's kind of impossible, but focus on everyone. Like, I thought one story was about, like, there aren't enough, like, people relating to conservative people. And, like, that is a group of people in there, and they should also be recognized if we want to be truly inclusive. Mia, were you going to say something? No. Rafael. And perhaps when we connect in person, we'll talk more about that, but that liberals aren't concerned, aren't open. Discussion happens in many places. So more to come. I think, Walter, your point about conservatives coming to the library. I think lots of ed spaces libraries in this area just, there's a lot of, there's a lot to consider with what that means if people are pushing back against other folks who are coming to the library. So I know where I'm at at the University of Panama, it's attention. Can you come to a classroom and say this about another group of people? What does that mean? How do you deal with those individuals? So that's here too in Amherst. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, especially in Amherst. Yeah, no doubt. I was going to offer that I can also send as a follow-up, maybe not as part of the meeting minutes, but one of my coworkers at the library recently shared the ALA survey about how Gen Z and millennials are using the library. And it was one of the things that was most interesting to me was how many people do not self-identify as readers, but are still visiting the library at a higher rate than other generations. And I just thought like that was like the kind of data that I was like, oh, well, that means that there's something else that people are finding here and there's something that's being done right to bring people in. And I'll try and keep an eye out for other things like that that kind of will give our survey results maybe some context in a more like national way. But it was nice just to kind of like see, you know, that survey happened on a level that's totally different from ours, but I appreciated what I was able to take out of those results and maybe that'll even help us thinking what we're hoping we're going to be able to extrapolate from our results. Thank you, Mia. Thank you. Sorry, Rafael, go ahead. Just quickly, what's the plan for trying to get more surveys? Where do we end? I think we said that we were for now, we were going to continue. And then Mia was just going to give us, collate what we have so far. But to Ginny's point that we would push it again while the library is in transition, so hoping that it'll be interesting to see if people are going to the website. So that would help. And then I guess so we're looking like a few two or three months down. Is at which point I think we want to meet. Yeah. Our push it again means what specifically. Sorry, our push it again. Like what does that mean. Meaning send out the survey again once the library is in the interim location to see if people are paying attention and if they're going to be responding to see if we get any more responses. And then go ahead. I'm sorry. And maybe we say, so what is this? We're in January, February, March it maybe we say around April, like, like maybe make it a cut off like April or May. And then we try to meet once we have this collated information. Does that makes it make sense. I was wondering, and I don't know if people have the capacity. The sending out again is just one way to push. There are other things we could do. I'm looking at the clock though. I'm not sure we have time, but there are other ways that we could push. Sharon, would it be okay if we had Raphael just send us an email or would we should we bring it up at the next meeting. What, what do you mean yes Raphael could send us emails. Absolutely. I can send a video but but remember my idea and it's just one is maybe a few of us here could do some in person sort of push show up at the library. We have some surveys talk about why we should do this, why folks should do this survey. There are other ways though. So I don't know if other folks have other ideas. I would just say you know we'll just send it out again. So I'm not pushing for additional things I'm just saying for us to consider. I like what you're saying, but does that like to go back to Melissa's point does that, like if I send tell 10 of my friends. I kind of know how they are going. I feel like I would know how a lot of them would fill in that survey. Are you saying going outside our community. Yeah. So, so not only share with 10 of your friends. And I think those friends matter. Yeah, we think we know what they might share. I'm saying like, we show up in the library Saturday morning. Okay, here's the survey. We only have this amount collect we want to hear your voice. So they see members of this community. They hear about the work this committee. They hear about the work that we're doing, but that's just one sort of proposed option. You don't have to accept it. So it's not necessarily your friends. It's just we're tabling. We're sharing. Walter. My only idea that we would come into it that is, if we're in the library, we're probably going to get a positive words about if we're shoveling shoveling people who will come into the library. I just think like, I just think Walter like making these assumptions about what we will get. It is tricky. I don't know. And I don't think we can't at this point like we have an approach to gather as many surveys as possible. Like, I think this, or I don't think we should do that at this point. I think we collect what we collect. We're also if being more proactive with the quarter page flyer with the qr code in other locations and events around town. In addition to it going still being up on the flyer in the library, in addition to it being still on the website and regularly in the this week at the Jones email. It's also on the quarter piece flyer in the bid and chamber office. It's also at the each of the elementary schools in the front office. It's also at the senior center. It's also on the college campuses. And maybe some of those places are also in addition to let show up on Saturday morning when there's a craft project happening or on Wednesday afternoon when things with your baby is happening and asking those parents to fill it out. So, are we going to some of these other places, the middle school chorus concert or whatever to collect our sports games to collect some of this also that's what I. It's a lot of work in the winter when we're a small group of people with lots on our plates. But at a minimum if we had those flyers in those locations. I think that's a good we need to wrap up because I know a few people have to go and we haven't allowed we haven't I haven't asked about public comment again, but Mia, if you want to really quick. Yes, just one more question about sort of the language around this push. I feel like. It would be great to resend the survey to the schools, even sending it out through a newsletter, but to be able to share like we've gotten 50 responses. If you already respond to the survey. Thank you. Maybe like share it with someone else, but I just want to make sure we're not. Re-collecting responses from people who are like, oh, I think I filled this out, but I'll fill it out again or just something that can kind of help broaden that and also not just like, you know, like, because we're catching someone three months later. Maybe they've forgotten that they filled it out and give us the same answers. So I can try and work on just like crafting a little blurb like that, at least for our newsletter. Our newsletter is the easiest one to access and the one that we can, you know, sort of get out the most, but then try to get it out through the schools as well. And I'll look back at the other places that we sent it, because even as we were talking, I think I forgot that we passed it along to the Emma survival center. I'm not sure if it was distributed, but just to remember all the outlets that we already looked at and getting them out to those same places in addition to other places. So can we just, thank you, Mia. Should we just say that we will have a further discussion of this at our next meeting, which is on the 16th. Is that correct Sharon? Of February. As long as that works for you all. I'm just wondering, does this time work for people or should we go back to the 130. It works for me, but this is actually, this is preferable for me. Everyone Walter. Could we possibly do 1130. I know that type. Yeah, I did have a class at that and I love until I wouldn't be able to join right away. Would 1130 work for people. Works for me. Yeah. All right, thank you so much. Yeah, no, thank you all. I know there's one member of the public and if you were into, if you have, if you would like to make a comment or ask a question, we have a couple of minutes left. Yes. No. No. Okay. Thank you all. We didn't get to, so we have one more thing on our agenda, but I'm sure we can. Discuss that next, next month. So 1130 February 16. Thank you. Ginny. Can I raise something that I would like to put on the February agenda. One of the pieces coming up with the renovation and expansion is fine edge and way finding in the new library. And it's super complex in a lot of different ways. But one of the pieces of feedback I'd love to get is from the public of what words matter to them for helping to find something. Um, Shannon, I had a bit of a discussion about that and we can talk about that. Later. Okay. Yeah, I don't think it's urgent, but yeah, we didn't want to put it on. We didn't want to kick it to a committee. There's a survey going on right now. So. Okay. Thank you. Thank you all. Thank you. Thank you. Can we have a quick chat or. Yeah. No, I have to. Okay. End. Okay. All right, I will email you. Bye.