 We were organising a conference in Scotland in 2007 for Deb Komp. We have a conference every year. And on IRC, in the January this, in the summer, in January I said, IRC, if we had a tartan I would wear a kilt for the whole conference. And everybody replied, well, make a tartan then. So I thought you can't just make up a tartan and choose a few colours and say this is the debian tartan and there must be some sort of reason for it. And I thought about different ways of somehow using the tartan technique for doing something like a barcode that said debian or ascii encoded in binary somehow. So if you want to focus on this bit, the white stripes, dash dot dot is D, dot is E, dash dot dot dot is B, dot dot is I, dot dash is A, dot dot is N. So I went to a website where you can design tartans and I selected it and messed around for a couple of hours with different colours. And then I got in touch with a professional tartan designer and said I have these ideas. And he didn't really change very much. He just moved the blue and made it. This tartan is unusual because it's only symmetrical this way. So this is not a line of symmetry because this corner and that corner are different. So there are only about five other tartans like that. So I wouldn't have thought of that because that was done. And then I asked people whether they were interested and we got about 18 people I think. And then we ordered the tartan and I spent a lot of money on it and I hadn't seen a sample and I'd spent all these other people's money. So when it turned up and I liked it, it was a big relief. And now that was, I think we had 80 yards of material made that time. 140 yards of material made that time. And then we've had another batch done where we ordered 80 and for some reason the weavers made 160. So we still have stock as well. So if people are interested in getting a kilt at the moment, they can just go and buy one. They don't have to wait for a new cloth to be woven. And so the pattern is called a set. The name for the order of the threads is set SETT. And the set for this is effectively the source code. So it's GPLed. If you can think of another way of using it, if you want to weave it in bamboo thread as ties or something, you're perfectly welcome to do it. What else? Oh, the colours. We have the two shades of red so that this shade is very close to the Debian swirl. The black, white and yellow are meant to represent tux. And the blue is electric blue, which is just there because I like blue really. Current stock is with weavers called Caffrey Tailors in Edinburgh. If you go to the Debian 7 wiki page, or if you just look for Debian Titan, it should reference that. Or go to an old entries on my blog, which is blog.hands.com. You'll find a reference to the wiki page on Debian 7. There's all the contact details and information about it. Or if not, they can always email me if they have any problems talking to the tailors. Because the tailors, for some reason, think that I'm proprietorial about the thing and want to get permission to give the target to people. But I'm happy for anybody to have it. The more the merrier. The more people that order it, the more likely they are to just decide to keep it in stock. So you can order the plaincloth as well and do it. So people have made trousers out of it and people make self-done skirts and various other things. The thing is it's a silly idea and it's quite expensive, so you have to be a little bit into Debian. So I think RMS doesn't think Debian is free enough because we still have the non-free repositories on our servers. So he thinks we should have a non-free.org or something and separately host it. But it's just too much for a pain in the ass to do that. So yeah, that's a slight difference of opinion. I don't think it's a big deal though. It's really appropriate for Debian to have it off, I think, because we're a bit like a clan. And people have loyalty that's beyond reason to Debian. So some people have tattooed this well on themselves. So this isn't something that is normal for programming projects, I think. And it's great. You turn up in different places around the world and a load of idiots are wearing kilts. So you have 10 people walking down the street in Argentina in kilts and all the locals are sort of, oh my god. What is happening? The thing is that Ubuntu is aiming at a much smaller target. So you can have a graphical install which targets laptops, which is pretty much what the initial focus of Ubuntu was. But that install doesn't work on a S390 or an ARM box with no display because you need something that does serial for that. So the Debian installer is perhaps a bit more basic in the user interface that it shows you. It does do a graphical one as well, but it works on every architecture we support. And there's really not that much point making that different because you don't install things very often. And with Debian, because it's upgradable, people install on average sort of less than once per computer because people will do things like take a disk out of an old computer and put it in a new computer. So if you're only doing it once every six months or once a year, even if you've got loads of computers, then it doesn't really matter. It's five minutes of your life. And that's the sort of thing that people go, oh, isn't it lovely that they've got a graphical user interface? Well, the graphical user interface, you barely look at it. And it only works on two architectures. So it's no good to Debian, really. I think that's a misperception. The problem is that we call testing testing. And for most people that want up-to-date stuff, you can just run testing and it'll be fine. If you want something that's really stable, then stable is good. But you have the problem of it gets out of date. But we have backports as well. So you can have your system entirely running stable. But if someone has felt the need to backport a recent version of something to the stable, then you've got a really solid system. And you can take one or two packages that you think you need the latest version of and add that. And that's great, I think. I don't see what the problem is. It's mostly a problem of people not realizing that. So people go, oh, yeah, Debian's always out of date. That's not true at all. It just gives you about six different choices from really stable, really stable plus a few bits, which will still be stable because you haven't changed the libraries or anything. You can go for testing, which is only two weeks behind the latest uploads. Unstable if you don't care about the fact that every now and again you won't be able to log in. And you can do some of the mixtures of those things. So you can tune it to exactly your needs. But it doesn't make it. It doesn't give it to you on a platter necessarily. I think Ubuntu has done really good things for making it more usable for normal users. Because, for instance, when Ubuntu did the thing that suggests that you've got things to upgrade in the status bar, I would never have thought of that because I know you just have to get dist update and I do it occasionally. But I gave a copy of Ubuntu to my gardener and he saw this thing drop down and clicked it and upgraded things. And all of a sudden he was saying, it's fantastic, I'm in charge of this machine and I just upgraded it and I'm maintaining it. I felt really empowered by that. So little features like that are things that the devian developer would never bother with. Because you don't need, if you already know how to do it, you don't need something to remind you to do it necessarily. I think, well, for starters they're employing a load of devian developers. So that's devian developers who can now eat. So they program better when they can eat. The people that are devian developers that are working for Ubuntu do their maintenance in parallel. So for those instances there's definitely no problem with communication between the developers because it's the same person. There was a bit of an issue at the start about communication, I think it's mostly solved now. More time being spent on free software is good for free software. So it doesn't really matter. I personally don't like Launchpad very much because I can never find anything in it. But for things that are bugs in both, they get put into the devian bug tracking system as well. And Launchpad does seem to be able to tie the bugs together to make sure that communication is working okay.