 Aspirant vying for the member of the county assembly for the ward rep of hospital ward in Transoya. And of course to my extreme right I am with Kiplagat Deniz Maguta. Also I am aspirant vying for the constituency of Kassarani. Karibunisana? Asante. Kusalamu? Nikomzima Kabisa Gangare. Asante. Kiplagat, Kusalamu? I am very good. Right I got this morning. You also forgot to say that I am a governance expert. Yes, also governance expert. Thank you. How dare I? No people. No people? Thank you for coming my brother. Asante sana fukukukuja. We value feedback. Let us know what you think about these conversations that we shall be having. And this particular show right here on youth and politics. And of course to kickstart this conversation before we kabla tukuzama wa siyasa. There are people not being arrested because of having phones during these KCAC examinations. Tianin and Elea, Simina Patikana. What do you think about that? Let me start with Kiplagat. You see with that it's so unfortunate that when you are doing something you know that whatever you do there is consequences. It doesn't matter if there are positive consequences or negative. But again as a student you need to think about yourself, about your future. Those who are caught now most probably their results are going to be stripped off. They are going again to repeat and they might go to jail. So before you do something like that as for the students who are doing the same thing they should think about their future. Because this is now about their future. They are going outside there to meet life. So if you have learned for four years you better even come out with your C plus or what instead of trying to aim for that A that is very risky for your entire life. The decision is really concerned that these examinations could be compromised because of the high level of cheating. Again the schools are failing because they really need to take care of the students because at the end of the day they are still students. So they might lie to each other, let's have phones, let's do this. So the schools where the students were caught are failing because their principals and the school management need to really put strict measures. So that they can stop these students from entering with phones to exam rooms. Because the moment they are caught with the DCI of the Ministry of Education the case now leaves the school and goes to the Ministry of Education with the DCI. So the school need to protect their children. These are their children. Just like the way the mother never denies ease or a child wherever the child becomes a thief. So the school need to protect their children, need to make sure that their children don't have the phones. Kupi o maoniako about this particular issue? Ya, I feel so sorry for the students who are caught with the phones during the examination. And I think it isn't a good thing because as we mothers at home we train our children to be faithful. And also when they go to school they need to have that standard. They need to know that from home I was told to be faithful in every little thing. So I feel so sorry for our children that have been caught right now with the phones. And I also wonder how that the kids were able to go to the room with their phones. Because those days when we were doing our exams we had to be inspected first before we go to the exam room. So that's the problem with the inspection? So I think it's because of the inspection. Ya, I blame the people that are there for the kids because they have to make sure that the kids are okay and they are set to do their exams. And at the same time I wonder how do they get peace ligages? Wana toa busy? Ya, they are outside there and we have you know just like the way potatoes you can lack one rotten potato in a sack. The way in our community you still have some rotten people it's unfortunate but it's good that we've seen them being arrested. Like yesterday you saw those students from I think from Rongo University or something. So those are the rotten characters that are spoiling our children. Let's have the reality. We still have people that can still do some rotten behaviors, do something that is very questionable to the society. So still it might spread. So that's why I insist on having the school, the institution itself really inspecting their children and making sure their children are safe from these rotten characters. You see those who are supplying those ligages are from universities. So in fact they don't have them. So they are just lying to our students and it's so unfortunate that our students are still naive. You find that from 4 a student can still be at 15 years old. So it's easy to manipulate such a student for higher grades. It's easy to manipulate his or her mind. So the school really need to watch out for it. To kumanzi mamba examinations, I love one particular two things that are being done. The schools near the examination containers will be the last to receive the examinations. The CSO of education professor Mago has said so. And also instead of schools getting their papers at 6 being opened, it's going to be open at 6.30. So that there is the interaction between the examination papers and the handling is reduced. Do you think that this idea will help? I don't think that is going to help because still if they have that time, that duration of time of half an hour and yet they don't inspect the kids when they are going in, that's not going to help. So I'm still standing there that they need to be inspected. Because if they open the exams right there and the kids are already in class, they are waiting for their papers, it won't make any difference. But I think that's strategic just to reduce the time of interaction and the spread of the same paper. You see, when the paper is open, you don't know who might leak out the questions to the nation. So at least giving that little time between the kumanzi of the examination and before, that at least works. It's a good strategy. But I think for me this leakage is done even before they take the papers to the schools. That's my thought. Because for real, how do they just open the papers and the policemen are there and they take it straight to the classes and yet the leakage is still there. They don't have that time. So for me I think they do it before it gets there. Before it gets there. Of course, let us know what you think about this particular issue here. The hashtag is why in the morning at Ram Agukon at Y2F4 channel. What do you think about these issues that are making headlines on this particular Monday morning? Let's move quickly. This week we are expecting to see mass defections this week beginning today because of the deadline that are set because those who are shifting from any party, from one party to another have only five days to the deadline. And after that no shifting. And of course after that the registrar that is under itu has given the directive that the date was arrived after the interpretation of both the elections act and the political parties act. And of course once the list has been handed over to her, they are going to take it to IBC a bit later on. But in regards to those who are vying as candidates, as independent they have until May to be able to settle on their mind. But still, this is a deadline. We have five weeks. What are your expectations? Are you going to see many living political parties this week by Saturday? For me, because I did my registration long time ago. And I think people that are serious to vie for these positions have already submitted their paperwork. So these people that have noted submitted their paperwork should hurry up and go to their parties and submit their paperwork so that we don't have this rush and all that. But other than that, I wish everyone well that we may do Tufanya Kazinsuri. Tufanya Kazinsuri. Zana Zana. Yes, you see, right now I don't think that many people are going to defect or those who are going to defect maybe they feel like they are not suited in the party that they want to go for the election with or maybe they'll feel that they'll be compromised nomination processes. But the deadline is here and the time has gone already. You see, with the time that you have between now and August, you need to have settled your mind. You need to have known which political vehicle am I using. Am I going with the Kenya Kwanzaa coalition or Azmiyo coalition? Or am I vying with the independent? Again, you need to check at your ground. You need to know where you are going at, which vehicle are you using. Now this is not the time to say that I am vying. You are vying as who and who and why are you vying. This is the time to defect. Yes, this is the time to defect. In fact now of course you must defect if you want to before Saturday, before 26 because the deadline is here. But you dea is losing so many people. Let me give an example of Sirissa Mema Faleben to a luke left you dea for jubili. That's why I was telling you, you need this time to check at your ground. You need to know where is your party strong, where you are, where you are vying. Which party or which coalition is strong. That is the reality. As an aspirant you cannot overdo that. You must check where I am vying. Which parties wins the day. So that's why you've seen people moving. But those who are running away from you dea, I think they don't know why they are leaving because for me I feel like this is the safest place to be. The safest party to be where nomination cannot be compromised where everybody has this democratic right. There was something that I was saying because of the issue of Ford Kenya and ANC where we have the party leaders, Moshe Zutangula and Mustafa Mudavadi respectively joining you dea some feel it will compromise their position. Now that we have these two coming in especially in the western region they feel like it will not compromise their position then they may not actually be able to get their seats so they have to move to another party so that their position is sealed. Meaning you dea is still trying to ensure that they retain their members. Are you seeing this as a negative thing? Or is it positive for you? Why people quiet about it? I don't see whether you dea seems to be concerned Is you dea concerned about it? Yes, your thoughts? Maybe. Let me say on that you see why you dea is quiet is because when you live you give somebody else a room the you dea party is quiet because they know their strength and you know these are party that is one almost one and some few months old years so when you feel like some people might feel because this party is new in this area as an individual but this is not as a party, as an individual because this party is new and I'd like to move out to another party maybe my position might be compromised but Musalia Mudavadi and Mosa Swetangulia were not foolish to move to Kenya Kwanzaa Coalition they knew that this is the winning team, this is the winning party and you see as the CEO of their parties they knew that what is best for their party this is like their company, this is their home so they knew this is my home I'm taking my home to this place so that it can nourish so I want to tell you that in the western part you dea has really picked, has really picked and it is picking well the person that left like Waluke now he has failed competition, really had competition that's why he feels like he want to hide his mischief and his future failures by running away from the party so that he could say if I didn't run away, I could have won so I am telling you the truth in western region you dea is picking well you've seen recent campaigns where our patron the party leader of you dea we live alone that remember when he was away he was abroad Dismas Barasa pulled a very huge crowd so it means that this party is really picking up well and it's good for the day but as an individual if you feel pressed if you feel you see there is competition apart from the party or pushing you you still as an individual there is competition maybe others feel like they have failed and most of them who are running away are the failures they cannot bring the numbers so if they go it well and good you dea has no problem in fact they were collateral to you dea so when you leave you giving yes, you thought I think many people are running away because of the competition in you dea people have laughed at the party and there are so many aspirants right there and we have competitors and I think he weighed himself and he saw that I am not going to make it but for me I feel so good that we have about 10 aspirants and the winning team will take the day 10 aspirants in your ward? yes and I am happy for that you guys are not going to this I like competition outa toka you dea you know move to another outa toki you dea apon yo ni nasi mamamba kamushu kwa sababu ni nasiki akomba hiyo chama ni chama ambaita kuwa na free and fair elections kila mutuka mamimi ni mamamboga na ni tepewa na fasi angu kamamboga kamama mamamboga na ni teenda kuusa se raza gupale wama mawa siki e na wile wame se maia akomba hii ni bottom up tu na ansia chinitu kienda ju na kweili tu mepewa na fasi kwa chama ja uda ata sisi wama ma mamamboga tu naweza kuenda pala inje tu kausa se razaetu na wama pia wakaweza kuinulio so mimi ni nasiki I am proud ku kwa hii chama nasi Banduki Banduki Leave alone kutoka yu dea but I won't leave the winning team that is Kenya Kwanza so if anything happens in nomination I won't leave the winning team Kenya Kwanza enjoying the losing team that is as myo so again today you plan even tomorrow even if you plan tomorrow you plan 10 years to come as you plan today your life when you are when you are looking for for your spouse you are looking for her to marry her for the future of your children so now we we came together as Kenya Kwanza for the future of the nation and the future of you as an individual so listen I am not going to leave Kenya Kwanza because even after this this campaign period there is now life after election so we need to be in the government to work for the people in various posts even those who will not win that's why people are not advised to leave UDA or Kenya Kwanza coalition because this is the winning team you will be running the government together now let me look at UDA the Mathira Member of Parliament Honorable Riga Degashabwa he has said that he wants Ndindi Nyoro Member of Parliament to actually not to vai but to be put as the running image of the deputy President William Ruto and I was a Kana I was a Kana kwa pandewangu mimi na Ndindi Nyoro nimtumzuri sana lakini kwa mamba yako deputize the president and by any William Samoe Ruto and by any namin ya kwa mba he will be the fifth president of the Republic of Kenya I have faith in him kwa saba buye ya lianza kutoka chini na sasa so Ndindi Nyoro niki jana shupafu Nliki jana mmu zum variant niki janambaya pan duki lakini hiu tunawatsia wenyo wanaiza w inicial два ta kakasอน kamaenge kwa u pandewati mimi niine wanaiza군ia kazi mizuri sana nanaeza kudeliva, lakini kwa jili ya mambu ya palindani, mimi na wa wajia. Gajago said this in a quote, when a tree falls, it gives out sprouts and dindi inyoro is one of them who we are looking up to. It continues and said, give us this man to go and help Kruuto gana votes to be able to win the election and form the next government. Yes, Rigadega Shagwa is a member of parliament of Madera but then again he's also a citizen and he's a supporter of Kenya Kwanza. Just like me, I can give opinion of who should deputize the deputy president now, William Samueh Ruto. As you've heard from my colleague, dindi inyoro can as well work perfectly as a deputy president of Kenya in the next government. But then again, we still have Musalea Mudavadi. We still have the same Rigadega Shagwa and many other people. And for the deputy position, there are many things to consider. To consider the number of votes that you might bring, how it would affect the entire nation. There are many things because for example, deputy president automatically cannot choose a car engine to be his running mate. So they might again consider giving that position to the women so that to gender balance. So I would like to say this. Those were just opinion of the Rigadega member of parliament. It didn't say it under the capacity of the Kenya Kwanza coalition. When we will start talking about the deputy and analyzing the deputy of William Samueh Ruto, when they will sit down in a press conference and say that we as Kenya Kwanza, remember Kenya Kwanza is large. We have Ford Kenya, we have UDA, we have Jbebe, we have CCK, we have a lot of parties inside there. So when we will start talking about the deputy president, we are just analyzing now the deputy president that is when they themselves have chosen and they have agreed on one thing, because there are many things to consider. So there is no problem with anybody saying I want somebody, I want somebody. Because we have heard allegation also that this Rigadega shakwa is going to deputize. So we will just wait about that. We are not seeing people like Musala Mudavadi who is also there, who is also an able man. That's what I have told you. Kenya Kwanza entails a lot of parties. We have ANC, we have Ford Kenya, we have CCK. They'll need to sit down and choose the best candidate so that they don't lose. They need to discuss and agree, because there are many things to consider. I told you they might consider giving it a woman, they'll consider giving it to a person. We'll bring numbers because at the end of the day we are looking at the victor. Nyoro is running mate. Nyoro is running mate. Okay, you have pinned me to that. But I would like to say, Ndindi Nyoro is a very good young politician, very energetic. Yaya mwenyewe kulingana na mimi, ana wez. Lakini, si wezisema kwa mba, apewe, yu deputy president, kabla yaya mwenyewe ajaitisha. Yes, yaya running mate. Kabla yaya mwenyewe ajaitisha. Ineza kwa, kulingana na mimi kumuangali atu na ona kwa naweza. Lakin yaya Ndaniake is not ready for that. Okay. Yes. Now, quickly still, there is the consistency that you're running for. And there is the word that you're running for. I want to get it from you, because now this is where we shall be rapidly this conversation up on. You believe that you've got what it takes to take your word to the next level. Kwa kilisha waa. Wale mma maboga mahaslas. Mba umkonao pali kwenye, kwenye word. Why you? Why do you believe that? If you may also, as your answer in that particular question, also let us know the plan you've got for the youth. Yeah. I feel like I am the right candidate for the hospital word because of my qualities. Which are? Kitu ya kwanza. Kulingana na chama chetu UDA ambayo Naratifia on the bottom up economy. Mimi mwenyewe kama mamamoga. Niko gangare na niko tayari kufania watu kazi. Na unadjuwa kawahida kwa familia mamandu utu wamugongo wafamilia. Wakati mama yuko nyumbani. Kilamutu wanashiba. Baba wanashiba. Watoto wanashiba. Vijana wakazi wanashiba. Naata uko umbo uko inje na paka wanashiba. Kwa ife mimi ninaona, kwa sababu mimi nina pigania hikiti ya mca. Ionikiti kizuri sana. Kwa mama kama mimi. Mama ambayo nina jua. Kula lanja nini. Mama ambayo nina jua. Kukosa skulfis nini. Na saidi wakati mwingi ukitazama na kwangaliya. Mama nio familia. Wakati mama imeku wa motosana kwa familia. Muzea anaeza katoroka ena. Lakin ni mama atazi mama paga. Lakin mimi kuna wengina mba upia wa kwa pukoni wodere punio na vaipa mwenyewewe. Mba upia wanashiba, same same thing wanashiba. Mimi mimi... Mama hawezi kubali mtu ala lanja. Kuna mama wengina pia mba upia. Lakin ni muna wewewewe. Mimi ni mchapa kazi. Na watu wa hiyo hospital wadwa nali jua kama mama mchapa kazi. Kazi ni kazi. Mimi ni na fanya kazi. Mama mboga na kazi ni kazi. Na nina jua na nminia kwa mba. Hawa wa kini pa hini chance ni wa fanya kazi. I'm really gonna deliver. What about the youths? Youths ni kuna mpango mzuri sana. Kwanza youths ni wa mminifanya ni ingiwe kwa siyasa. Kwa sababu mimi ni mama ya wa toto. Mimi ni mama ya wa toto saba. Wa toto wangu vijana mba ii ni kuna vijana wa tatu. Hawa vijana wa me ndesha border border. Mimi ni na jua uchungu yam toto kwa muka subui na kwenaku ndesha yu border border. Na wakatu wana po ndesha yu border border. Yu border border subui yaw. Wa me pewa. Kuna mdusu wawa mba ii me wapate yu border border. So mimi ni na taka ni na mpango sana na hawa watu o border border. Kwa sababu hawa watu o border border. Wana kapa jua the whole day. Hawa vijana o border border. Wana itaji kuna wengina mba ii wana wake na watutu. Na sa zingini wana kapa hale na hawa pati pesa yu kutosha. Jiyoni wana itaji kupeleka pesa kwa yule mdusu wake. Huku amechu kwa ii piki piki na lon. Na lon hiu wame pewa interesti kuju. So mimi ni na taka ni na poingia pale. Niyone vijana yakuwamba. Hata kama watapewa izima piki piki. Na lon interesti wechini. Na mimi kama mama yaw. Nita angaliya vile nita wasa idea. Kama nita weza kuchupua kama 5% ni na wasa idea na yaw wa weza kuju sa idea. Na piya ni na pangu ya kwa jengea shed. Ni na wajengea shed ko iili juwa isi wapige. Mboi na po nyesha wana kwa po konvua akuna maaliwa na heza kuchikinga. So mimi ni na taka kufanya vijana kazi. Na pangu ya filato wawena mitu wakukimbiliya na kwa. And this are some of the things that we are going to be talking about even in the future where pale, mafanya makosa ni wapi. Where have we gone wrong, where have we gone right and those who are vying for these particular positions what are they coming on board waduwa na kujana ni ni wana takapfanya faina, na of course raza wana waza. We have finished with you. Yes. As youths we have been told that we are the leaders of tomorrow and I believe tomorrow is now. Tomorrow is today. We are here because we cannot wait until we are 70s so that we start vying for positions and that there is the time for change Ikefika you cannot stop it. And I believe this is the time for change even starting from the national level. This is the time for change. We need energetic leaders and intelligent leaders. Now within 20 seconds I want to give you time also. I want to give you time within 10 seconds to tell us why you for kasarani. And that's why I was coming down. As I said at the national level we need stronger energetic youths we come now down to kasarani. We've seen for the past 4 years we have gone really down in times of social amenities and especially let me touch for the youth first before even I touch for the others we have a lot of talent raw talent lying in kasarani they cannot be exposed because of the lack of support. Me and my team we are going to start working with the talents within the kasarani and before we go to we finish the the decision 4 years or 5 years as when we will be leading we will make sure that the social amenities are again reborn in kasarani because we have poor drainage system we have problems of water and security so I would like to say this with the youths or I the youth have the capability and the ability to tackle responsibility we only need opportunity and this is the time I am asking the youths that kwa maana sisi tu kengoja inje tuende ndani sisi tu kate keiki ambaile na tutosha tu eze kujigawia na tuto angoja tena tu pangue wacha san sisi tu e ppamoja na ile kamati yaku pangana na kini ambaile pika keiki sinupia na zazema keiki na fei katwehen kiki nye tuote so sisi kamao atua kasarani keiki ambaile na toka national treasure kapkuki na kufanya kasia ngeg булоakatumatita ngaofa kamao tochi na juwane dasi ya k encontra mafanya I wish you the best. 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