 Welcome. To today's Yaron Brook show, I'm doing the show live from Kiev, Ukraine. Kiev, Ukraine. So this is kind of the eastern part of Eastern Europe. You go in the east, further east from here, you get to Russia. We're not going there right now. If you go east from Kiev, you get to where the fighting is between the Russians and the Ukrainians. So this is an ancient city. I don't know much of the history of Ukraine or of this part of the world. This is not the foundation of civilization or the foundation of Western culture, although I'm sure the Ukrainians would be upset at me for even saying that. So I'm in Ukraine. I'm going to be giving a couple of talks here. So I'm in Ukraine. I've been in Copenhagen most of the week. I did an event last week during the week in Copenhagen with Fleming Rose, one of my favorite people in the world and a real intellect and a real delight as a human being and just a good guy. And we did an event on is feed impossible in a multicultural society, which is a title I do not like because I'm not sure what a multicultural society is and we'll get to what culture is and why I don't think what Europe is facing in terms of challenges is a challenge of multiculturalism. I don't think there are many cultures because I think I think cultures and achievements and there's only they're not that many cultures in the world. And so we talked about it. We talked about that. So that brought up a lot of issues about Europe, about the history of Europe, about what's going on in Europe. So I wanted to talk more about that. I want to talk about the future of Europe. I got a question about asking me to do a show about the future of Europe. And I also got challenges to to my presentation from last time where I blame Christianity for the decline of Europe, which I stand by but I got questions. Ukraine, let me just tell you what I'm going to be doing in Ukraine. I'm actually doing two talks. The first one is at the local business school. It's supposed to be the best business school in Ukraine. And the business school has kind of adopted me and every time I'm in Ukraine I go in and give a talk. Last time I was here, I thought I was going to give a talk and I go into the school and they tell me, oh no, you're not giving a talk. We want you to teach our executive MBA class and by the way it's three hours long. So I land up giving a three hour course on the morality of capitalism class on the morality of capitalism to a bunch of 30 Ukrainian business executives, senior business executives that were doing an executive MBA here. And so that was that was incredibly, that was incredibly interesting and quite valuable. And in this time, they wanted me to teach the executive MBA class again, but then they rescheduled the executive MBA and it was last weekend. So instead what they're doing this week and is they are inviting their alumni. And we're doing a whole event about a whole event for the alumni. They expect over 100 people. Anyway, they're doing an event for the alumni and expecting over 100 people where I am the feature. I'm the only speaker, I think. So that's exciting. They've also arranged a media interview for me at 10am tomorrow morning. So I'm doing an interview with some local media here at 11 o'clock. At 11 o'clock I'm meeting with the vice president of the university to discuss opportunities in the future for the institute and me to collaborate with this institute. So all of that is interesting, fascinating, and I'm really looking forward to it. You know, it's the kind of thing. I don't get to sit down. I don't get to be treated with this kind of respect at business schools in the United States. I mean, in many respects, and I've said this before on the show, there are more opportunities. There's more freedom in education. There's more freedom in academia at these universities in Eastern Europe, in South America, in other similar places than there is in the United States, where there's just very little you can actually do, because everything is kind of controlled and everything is regulated, and everything is watched over by administration, and everything else. So it's pretty cool. The bottom line is it's pretty cool to be here in Ukraine and to give these talks. I'll be able to tell you more about them when I get back. I'll be flying to the States on Sunday. And then for those of you who don't know, I'll be doing a debate at Yale on Wednesday next week. That debate will be live streamed on the Federalist Society's Facebook page. So it'll be live streamed on the Federalist Society's Facebook page, so I encourage you to do that. Anyway, so that's my trip. I had good visit in France. I think I talked about that. I had a good visit this week in Copenhagen. I'll talk a little bit about that. Remind me by the end of the show to do something on positive values, because I have a great positive value from Copenhagen, which I think is a great story, and I think you'll enjoy. But I wanted to follow up on last week's show and to talk more about, because it seems like it's endless. The more I talk, the more resistance I get, the more questions people have. But I want to talk about the future of Europe in the context of the Islamic threat. I want to talk about demographics and, you know, a demographics destiny. That seems like the alt-rights latest shtick is this idea that demography is destiny. I'm not sure exactly where they come from. Last week, I talked about the decline of Europe, what I thought was the cause of the decline in Europe, and I blamed Christianity for instilling altruism. I blamed Europeans Christianity because it is viewed, now this is not technically Christianity's fault, but it is viewed by people as the only alternative to the left. So I posited this way, that Europe, the way people on the right, or the people who are saying there's a real existential threat from Islam, we've got to re-identify ourselves as Europeans. There is a real struggle and there's a real problem here in Islam is a real threat. Those people present the situation as this. There's Islam, there's the left which is basically embraced Islam, and then there's Christianity. And they present it as if those are the three choices one has. Islam, Christianity, or there's another variation, which I didn't talk that much about last time, nationalism. Christianity slash nationalism. Nationalism in Europe often comes in the guise of nationalism. Or the left. So part of the issue is, look, the left is bad, we know that and the appeasing Muslims say certainly the left is not a problem. Islam is barbaric and it would destroy Europe and Europe would not be Europe and there is no western civilization. If the Muslims take over Europe. So the left is useless in futile or disaster and the left has lost all sense of what western civilization. Therefore all we're left with is a right, a right that identifies the essence of western civilization as Christianity. And so I got this comment, I got the comment of if Europe has three options between Kant, I take that as the left although Kant is everywhere. Islam or pre-Krant Christianity, then if they choose pre-Krant Christianity which had little to no altruism then at least they buy time to discover something better. So now this is by Richard writing on the Iran book show Facebook page. Now that is so absurd. That is such an absurd, perverted, distorted presentation of Christianity. It is unbelievable. Christianity has killed more people than Islam has. Christianity is in its pre-Kantian or in its pre-enlightenment form. Christianity killed more people than Islam. It was barbaric, horrific, public tortures, burning of witches, burning of scientists. It was the 30 year war killed more people on a per capita basis than World War I or World War II. And it was all a war between Protestants and Catholics. And it was about killing apostates and it was about killing heathens. Not to mention the wars of Christianity, the 100 year war that preceded the 30 year war and on and on and on the persecution, the anti-Semitism. Christianity in its history is a hundred times more anti-Semitic than Islam it was. Not to defend Islam, Islam is barbaric and horrific and awful. But to present Christianity as, oh no, there was no altruism in Christianity. Really, Christianity's essence, the essence of Christianity, the foundational concept of Christianity is Jesus Christ's sacrifice. The ultimate, the most horrific, the most unjust act ever in terms of mythology. I mean, here's a man who is crucified and killed in the worst kind of way, in the most brutal way. Crucifixion is horrific and brutal, for since he did not commit. Talk about unjust, talk about unjust to be crucified for something you didn't do, but somebody else did. So he was crucified for the sins of mankind, for sins of other people. So to present Christianity in any era as un-altruistic had little to no altruism is absolutely absurd and ridiculous and science fiction. Now, there was a period that lasts maybe a hundred years in which Christianity still survives but is being beaten up by the Enlightenment. And during this period you have a period of relative peace, but this is not Christianity. This is what I want the West to return to. This is the period of the Enlightenment, but this is not a Christian era. This is an anti-Christian era. This is an era in which the Enlightenment is chipping away at Christianity. Remember that even John Locke had to escape England because he was afraid of a Catholic king. That's how tolerant and friendly and peaceful and non-altruistic Christianity was that even John Locke, who wasn't the most radical in a sense of his attacking religion, he avoided attacking religion partially because he knew the consequences of attacking religion. But the essence of Western civilization is that period in which Christianity is attacked and in which reason and individualism were born or reborn. The Renaissance and the Enlightenment, these are periods of secularization of society. These are periods of rejection, slow systematic rejection of religion with the publication of Spinoza's books and then with the Enlightenment in France, which was completely secular, much more secular than the Enlightenment in Scotland. With the rise of Amsterdam as a secular capitalist, relatively capitalist city and prosperous city. And by the way, multi-ethnic city, cosmopolitan city, all those words, altruites, hates, that's Europe. That's what established Europe as what it is. And if you had to choose between Kant, Islam or Christianity, I mean you might as well put a bullet in your head. You might as well put a bullet in your head now. I'm not making that choice and I'm certainly not fighting for one of those. I'm not going to fight for Christianity. You've got to be nuts. I'm not going to fight. I'm not going to fight for religion as an alternative to what we face today. I'd rather fight for reason and individualism and lose than fight for Christianity and win, even if it means the defeat of Islam. And this is the point I've been making for months, for years. I can't even tell how long I've been making. Islam is not what's killing America. Islam is not what's killing Europe. Islam is not what banned Uber from London. And by the way, Copenhagen has no Uber. It had last time it wasn't Copenhagen. No Uber this time. That's not Islam doing that. Islam is not responsible for the HB laws that exist in Europe. That's post-Kantian Europe. That's Kantian Europe. That is leftist Europe. That is post-modern Europe. That's the intellectuals of Europe. And it's the impotence of the so-called right. It's the impotence of those who supposedly stand for capitalism and Western civilization. So if you want to blame anybody for the death of Europe, it's not Muslims. It's not Islam. Muslims are still a tiny percentage of the population of Europe. What is killing Europe is Europeans. What is killing Europe is Christianity. It's as an alternative to everything else. And with its altruism, it's the so-called free marketeers who advocate for Christianity and who have no clue what their civilization is about. And it is the left which is undercutting everything and laying the foundations for one day the possibility of Islam taking over Europe. Which I think, by the way, will never happen. And I will tell you why. Oh yes, we've got some people on YouTube that must be YouTube. Yes, on YouTube. On YouTube they're telling me that Judaism is killing Europe. Even better. This is the state of the world we live in today. I was listening to Ayn Rand's lecture from I think it's in the late 70s. It's one of her last Fort Hall Forum lectures. Global Balkanization. And it's unbelievable. Everybody should listen to this lecture. It's available at the Ayn Rand Institute online. And just look, do Google search Ayn Rand Balkanization and you'll find it. It's brilliant. And it could have been written today. And it could have been today. I mean, she talks about the breakup of Europe and the breakup of America into tribalism, into racism, into collectivism. The disintegration of Western civilization into tribalism and barbarism and into collectivism. And racism. She talks about racism and it took a while. But here are the races. They're in full force and they're ready to go. I don't know how many of them they are, but they're out there and you can see it all over the place. You can see it everywhere. They might be a small group, but they are very, very vocal. And of course, you know, us Jews, I'm a Jew when it comes to anti-Semites. I'm a Jew. Please, you know, all you anti-Semites out there, feel free to call me a Jew. Everybody else, I'm not really Jewish, but to the anti-Semites, please. Yes, I'm one of those Jews trying to destroy the world. Without a question in my mind, that is the choice between Conti slum and Christianity is a false dichotomy. Now, Richard goes on to write and they need time because Europe is dying, agrees with me on that. If only Europe were confident in their civilization, they could assimilate Muslim immigrants, but they're not confident. Islam is completing the destruction of Europe begun by Kant. I know it's not perfect, but ending Muslim immigration is the only hope for survival to buy time. The same is probably true of us. Now, I've said that Muslim immigration into Europe is nuts and is crazy. I've done many shows of this. I've talked about it. You know, mass immigration into Europe needs to be stopped. Not so much to buy time because I don't think you're going to buy any time, but because Europe, you know, is going to basically collapse. It cannot absorb these people. It cannot absorb these numbers of people. It cannot assimilate these numbers of people, you know, with any kind of rate. It's got a massive terrorism problem already that it needs to deal with. And it's got economic problems. It's got internal problems. You know, Muslim immigration probably should be ceased in Europe. Fine. I've acknowledged that for months and months and months. The Christians in North Africa were helpless against the Muslim invaders, but Christian Europe eventually defeated Islam. Why? I'll give you a break. I mean, they're dredging up history. And again, Christian Europe back then, you know, shouldn't have defeated Islam. And we're lucky. We're lucky that by chance, and I think it is by chance that the Christians that defeated Islam in back in the 14th, 15th century preserved the libraries because if they hadn't preserved the libraries and they were barbaric enough to have burnt the libraries, but luckily they didn't. They preserved the libraries. And that was saved civilization. It's not Christianity. It's not Christians versus Muslims. It's the Greeks. And the Muslims preserved the Greeks. And Christians were smart enough, those Christians who took over those libraries not to destroy the libraries and somehow got them over to Thomas Aquinas. That's what saved Western civilization. It wasn't the victory of the Christians over Islam that saved Western civilization. It was the survival of the works of the Greeks that saved Western civilization. And yes, since 1673, I think it was, the Europeans did beat back the Ottomans the Ottomans from Vienna and that's a major victory for Western civilization because by then Western civilization has begun its march. The renaissance had happened and the very beginnings of the enlightenment were beginning. Spinoza had already written. The beginnings, the very early signs of enlightenment. The scientific revolution was starting. So yes, beating back the Muslims in the 1670s was definitely, definitely, definitely an issue of, but that wasn't Christians. That wasn't Crusades. That was the, that was Austrians and so on. Maybe they did in the name of Christianity. You know, then they went out for a 30 year war where they, where they killed millions and I think it's eight million people and as a percentage of the population, again, much bigger, much, much bigger than anything else. 1863, thank you, somebody corrected me. So it's not about recapturing their Christianity. It's not about, it's about rejecting Kant. It's about rejecting altruism. It's about rejecting Christianity and rejecting its secular version, which is the Kantian, which is, which is Kant. By the way, I did five lectures on the history of the Middle East, which deals from the rise of Muhammad really, which deals a lot with Islam and the history of Islam. So I recommend that it's on blog talk radio or any of my podcasting apps. You can get it there. So just go and I think you'll enjoy it. I think it was five, I think those of you who've listened to it, learned a lot and it integrated a lot, integrated a lot for you. All right, back to Europe. So Europe has to rediscover these ideas and it's going to be haunt and it probably won't rediscover these ideas. So what do I think is going to happen in Europe? Well, I think what we're going to continue to see is, oh, before I get to that, let me make this point. This is a point, an interesting point that Fleming Rose made. And I don't know that he agreed with me on my counterpoint, but it was interesting anyway. So we were doing this event on, can you have a free country that is multicultural with the idea that today we live in a multicultural world. We've got Asian cultures coming in. We've got Islam coming in and we've got a variety of European cultures. And the world is very connected because of the internet and the people are crossing borders like never before. And can you still stay free in such a world? And I think both Fleming and I say yes. But Fleming made an interesting point about the history of Europe. He said Europe, Europe since World War I. So World War I was this catastrophe for Europe. Millions and millions of people died. It was an unimaginable, unthinkable, unexplainable war. They just crushed the continent. And at the end of the war, they wanted peace. And the solution for peace after World War I was in a sense the adoption of tribalism as an organizing principle. The adoption of establishing the nation state around ethnic groups. And really almost every ethnic group got their own country with a few exceptions. The exception of Russia. So there were a few exceptions. I can't remember what the exceptions were. I think it was Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia. Those might have been post-World War II. But the idea was post-World War I to create these ethnic groups. And then you had World War II and things got bad again. And the solution again at the end of World War II was to establish peace through creating nation states that were focused on ethnicities, on single ethnicities. And again the exceptions there, I think, were Yugoslavia in the Balkans, Czechoslovakia, which is the Czechs in Slovaks, and Russia, which has many, many ethnic groups. But everything else was this idea of focused on ethnic groups. And that model now is breaking down partially because of Islamic immigration. And it's a challenge that Europe has never faced in a sense that it's always, at least in the last 100 years, reverted back to ethnic groups as a security blanket. But I made the point, and I think this is true, and I don't know if Fleming agreed with this or not, that this is why Europe has failed. Europe has failed because it places so much emphasis on ethnicity. Europe has failed because it has broken itself up into all these little ethnic groups, and indeed hasn't finished doing that. If you're following what's going on in Spain, where there's this referendum, and I think a week or two, about Catalan spinning off from Spain and declaring seceding and declaring its own independence. And if they do that, what are the Basques going to say, and what are the Basques on the French side going to say, and what are the other 100 different ethnic groups around Europe going to say about them establishing their own little countries? And that's exactly what Ein Rahn talked about, tribalism. Tribalism is ultimately the consequence of irrationalism and collectivism, the combination of the two. It is the ultimate rejection of reason and individualism. It is what happens when a culture gives up on reason and individualism. And it's why Europe, during the 19th century, dabbled with individualism, dabbled with capitalism. During the 19th century, Europe dabbled with the ideas of reason, individualism, and capitalism. And it was a relatively peaceful era from the Napoleonic Wars to World War I. And when it seemed that that had failed, because I think the diagnosis for the causes of World War I, World War I, it reverted back to an ancient tribalism. And by doing so, it rejected capitalism. By doing so, it rejected reason. By doing so, it rejected individualism. And it focused in on the nation state equals ethnic group. And every little ethnic group got its own little nation state. And that didn't work either because the focus on collectivism, the focus on tribalism, only emboldened the Germans, only emboldened the Nazis. And there was very little opposition to the Nazis. And the reason there was very little opposition to the Nazis is because everybody had embraced basically the same idea. They had embraced soft collectivism. They had embraced soft ethnic segregation. And the Nazis were hard collectivists and hard tribalists and hard ethnic segregations. Everybody in Europe was an anti-Semite. The Germans were hard anti-Semites. Here we go, right? And that dissolved in a solution again because the problem wasn't as diagnosed, was again after World War II to break up into even more little states. And of course, with the break up of the Soviet Union, we broke up into even more. So now we have a Czech Republic and now we have Slovakia and now we don't have Yugoslavia anymore. We have Serbia and Bosnia and Kosovo and Montenegro and Macedonia. You know, I'm sure I missed somebody. Who did I miss? I'm a Bosnia-Herzegovina, right? I mean, it is absurd, nutty, crazy, insane. This is tribalism at its worst. And this is what Europe has. And of course, mix in with that that they've abandoned capitalism for the worst kind of mixed economy, regulated centralized mixed economy. They have, you know, and a mixed economy only reinforces tribalism. And this is the point brilliantly made by Ein Rand in her talk on Balkanization. The mixed economy, because it manufactures pressure groups, it manufactures ethnic interest groups. And every ethnic interest groups, every interest group, every pressure group goes groveling to the central authority in a mixed economy, trying to get as much crumbs, as much pieces of the so-called collectivistic pie as they can get. And of course, every little Hitler has an incentive to go and establish his every little ethnic identity group or every little pressure group because then he gets to be important and he gets to go to Brussels or to Washington D.C. and get all kinds of goodies given to him and he gets to be the prestige, the money, the power that is given to such people. Yeah, I miss Slovenia and Croatia earlier. So the mixed economy reinforces the tribalism and the tribalism is already there in Europe so it's just being reinforced by the mixed economy. None of this has anything to do with Muslims. The mixed economy wasn't inflicted on Europe because of Islam. Kant wasn't inflicted on Europe because of Islam. Balkanization wasn't inflicted on Europe because of Islam. Tribalism was not inflicted on Europe because of Islam. To blame the problems of Europe as Islam is absurd and ridiculous. Europe is dying with or without Islam. Now, the Muslims are going to accelerate that death. That is true. But what is not true is that the Muslims are the cause of that death. The cause of Western intellectuals. The cause of the ideas held by people today. The cause is the mixed economy. That's the cause of the death and decline of Europe. That's the cause of the death and decline of America. The mixed economy, which generates pressure groups, which generates ethnic groups, which generates power lusters, who come to power, like, you know, all these little leaders of the latest, you know, black group or Hispanic group or whatever group that is the gains, that they gain prestige and power and money and all these kind of things. And they're groveling in Washington D.C. for these favors or that favors. And then whites resent that because they feel like it's a collectivistic pie and those guys are getting more of the collectivistic pie and I'm getting less. I need a former collective. So now we have all these white nationalists and white semi-nationalists and you have the alt-rights and you have all these people scrambling to get a piece of the ethnic collective mixed economy pie. And all of this, all of this is driven by Kantian leftist, tribalist intellectuals that are universities, post-monists who don't believe in truth, who don't believe in the individual, who are collectivists philosophically. Yep, and on YouTube, the anti-Semites are going strong. All right. So, you know, somebody's saying in Europe it's not geography to make it market. It's not true. It's not geography. It has nothing to do with geography. The United States has, at least in portions of it, has a very difficult geography and it's one country in one state. To do with geography, it's all about ideas. It's all about ideas. And this is why there are Germans in Italy who would rather be part of Austria or Germany and there are French people in certain areas who would rather be part of France and then there's Belgium, which is split between French and I don't know what. And it's all just this, there's nothing. Belgium is flat. You don't need multiple countries over there. It's all flat. Germany, at least the northern part is mostly flat. What do you need all those countries for? It's flat. There's no... Geography is not what creates vulcanization. It's tribalism that creates. It's not evolving beyond the tribe. And I blame Christianity for that. Christianity not allowing people to evolve beyond the tribe. And today I blame the mixed economy for that. So, here you've got Europe that is ethnic-centered. And this is, by the way, one of the reasons why they haven't assimilated Muslims. Because they don't want to assimilate Muslims. Because they hate Muslims. Because deep down, they can't stand Muslims. So they put them in neighborhoods outside the cities. They don't let them live inside their own French towns. They don't actually integrate them into the workforce. They separate and segregate and do what they can to make them feel separate. It's not only that Europeans don't recognize what it means to be Europeans that don't know what to assimilate them into. But it is... Sorry, maybe I shouldn't be doing this following the chat on YouTube. But I was just called the Nazi Jew. That's pretty cool. It's pretty weird. But it is exactly... It is not only that they don't have a clear identity into which to assimilate these groups. It is also that they don't like these people. That they don't want these people. That they reject these people. That they don't, like Americans, just integrate them into their neighborhoods. And even though you have ethnic neighborhoods those neighborhoods tend to dissipate over time and within a few generations they go away. In Germany and in France, none of that has happened. And it's not happened for a couple of reasons. Again, both because Europe doesn't know what it is. And second, because Europe, in its foundation in its very, very core is ethnocentric. That's a nice way of saying tribalist, barbaric and tribalist. At the core of Europe is collectivism. It's always been about collectivism. And this is why Europe has such a hard time assimilating anybody. I mean, look what it did for centuries to the Jews. I mean, it couldn't assimilate. It had to put them in ghettos. It had to then kill them all. And this brings me, ultimately, and I'll get to America in a minute, this brings me ultimately to what I think is going to happen in Europe. And I know some people who hear this are going to cheer this solution or probably going to think this is a great solution but I think it's the end of civilization. I predicted this for a while and I've said this publicly, I've said this in a variety of different forms. I predicted Europe will ultimately return to concentration camps and to mass murder and mass slaughter. That's how they'll solve the Islam problem. They will kill them all. You think the Germans are just going to lay down and let this happen to them? You think Europe's just going to let the Muslims just destroy it? It ain't happening. There will be in 20 to 30 years if nothing fundamentally dramatically changes intellectually, there will be concentration camps in Europe and they will be throwing Muslims into those camps. Now, they'll throw Jews in for good measures and others but they will not go away peacefully. This is what it means for Europe to become even more tribalist, even more collectivist. This is what it means for Europe to defend itself, unfortunately. This is what it's going to come to. You know, Muslims out there, be warned. I'm warning you, this is what it's going to come to. And that's a tragedy because it means the end of Europe, in my view. There will be no coming back after that, not for a long, long time. It's already well in a way to descending into a cultural dark ages. And it's the economy, it's the fact that there's still some capitalism, some freedom around. There's the fact of technology that I think allows us to still keep going. There's the fact, you know, basically this is economic freedom and the fact that China and much of Asia have woken up and discovered freedom and, to some extent, and individualism, to some extent, that makes it possible for us in the West to continue, to continue in spite of the parable philosophy, in spite of the tribalism, in spite of everything, to still somehow manage to continue in spite of all that. But we are overall, we are heading towards the dark ages and it's not being brought about by Islam won't put it there. What'll put it there is us. And when the Europeans wake up and when the Europeans decide that this threat is intolerable, it'll be very, very, very ugly fascism will rise up again in the form of nationalism. There'll be war in Europe. It'll be an ugly place to be. And that's what I think that's what we're heading because the only alternative, the only alternative is for Europe to adapt the American model, the American model that the founders adapted, which is the model of individualism, the model of reason, the model that says that tribalism, collectivism is irrelevant and discarded, the model that says that we integrate all of you into our culture because we don't treat you as a group, we don't treat you as Poles, or as Italians, or as Irish, or as Jews, or as Muslims. We treat you as individuals. And if you as an individual are willing to follow our laws, if you as an individual are willing to work hard for a living and be successful, then we will integrate you into our culture and we will accept you as one of us. So here we go, right? So as this is the American model, the model of individualism, that's the model that works, that's the only model that embraces where it doesn't matter the number of ethnic groups, the number of cultures that come in because you're expected to adopt a particular culture in that as a culture of individualism. Now as America has lost its individualism, as America has become more of a mixed economy, as America has adopted more and more of a collectivistic approach, that is declining in America as well. And again, that is what potentially could kill America. So the world has to discover rediscover capitalism. It has to rediscover capitalism. It has to rediscover individualism based on reason. That's what it needs to rediscover. And if it doesn't, then the future is bleak. I don't see. There is no positive future by returning to Christianity. There's no positive future by returning to some past. The only future for civilization, the only possible future for civilization is a return to the ideas of the founding fathers, this time bolstered by Iron Man. But nothing else will do. And you can see now, I was all for Brexit under the assumption that the British could actually cut a good deal for free trade and actually then have free trade with other countries and establish this free trade zone in the UK. But it's very likely that the Brits will ultimately just build walls and elect Jeremy Corbyn to establish even more socialism in Britain and to protect British jobs, erect more penalties on trade. And so who knows where Brexit will lead? One would hope that it leads in the positive free trade individualistic direction. But who knows? Those ideas have to be explicit. Those ideas have to be integrated. Those ideas have to become part of our world. And if they're not, then I don't know what hope there is. There certainly isn't hope in these ideas coming out of some people who call themselves objectivists who believe that the threat is Islam. Islam is not a threat. Islam is a mosquito bite. I mean, Europe has millions and millions of Muslims and yet homicide rates in the United States are far higher than they are in Europe. And homicides by Muslims are not that high. Not that high. Yes, there's terrorism. Terrorism can be crushed and defeated. It's not that hard if people will listen. But the real problem of Islam is that they don't integrate and the real problem of Muslims in Europe is that they don't integrate and that they through peaceful means will slowly take over. But this is what I think Europe ultimately will not tolerate and this is what I think Europe ultimately will reject and throw off and fight against and use violence against. In ways that I think are going to lead to the end to very much to the end of Western civilization, to the end of Europe. So I'm sorry, I can't be very optimistic right now. While I think there are more and more voices on the side of individualism, on the side of reason rising up in Europe and in America, they are overwhelmed by the anti-voices and even though, again, Brexit is a good example because it's this mixed case. Some people voted for Brexit for all the right reasons to reduce regulation, to get rid of Brussels regulatory authority over the UK and other people voted for Brexit to stop Polish immigration into England because they were competing for their jobs and all the taxi drivers I spoke to in London before Brexit and after Brexit and all of them supported Brexit, every single one of them. They were all doing it for xenophobic, economically illiterate, collectivistic reasons. They won't do it for the good reasons that I think some people voted for Brexit. So, you know, I don't see unless Europe is willing to adopt American principles, unless Europe is willing to adopt the ideas of the founding. I just don't see how Europe can survive. Now, I say that and at the same time, and this is the same in the US, at the same time you walk around Paris, you walk around Copenhagen, you walk around London and life is good. Life is good. People have money, stores are full, people are producing, people are creating. Life goes on, people don't seem to be worried. But of course I think that probably was the case in 1930s or 20s and 30s before the rise of fascism in Europe. So, I don't think that's necessarily an indicator, but it does, you know, we're rich. Europe's incredibly rich. It's pretty amazing, even poor Ukraine, I'm here in Kiev, and it's poor. You know, life is pretty good for most of the people here. They have air conditioning, they have, well, maybe they don't need air conditioning, they have heating, the stores, the streets are hustling and bustling, there's a lot of cars in the streets, there's a lot of traffic jams, stuff is happening. And this is a country with a real threat. The threat of course of Russian nationalism and collectivism and all of that. Here's another kind of balkanized state is Ukraine. Ukraine is another one of these examples where, you know, there are ethnic Russians and ethnic Ukrainians. You go figure out the difference. There's Russian as a language, there's Ukrainian as a language. Who the hell cares? You guys have got to listen to Ayn Rand's talk on global balkanization and it is just stunning. Every time this happens a lot with Ayn Rand, but this stunned even me. How relevant it was to right now, right now, everything that's happening right now. So it's, she was amazing. I mean, you all know she was amazing, but listen to that lecture or read it and you really will be shocked in how much of it is relevant to what's happening at this moment. All right, let's see. Any other points I wanted to make? I mean, Rand makes the point of, you know, in Marxism, so Marxism is kind of collectivism for intellectuals. It's hard. It's hard to at a certain level to sympathize with the proletarian of the world and to unite with them. It's very intellectual. It's hard. And when it's rejected, but collectivism is not rejected, what is left? What is left is what she says ethnicity, right? So when you give up on reason, when you give up on individualism, you know, there's all that's left. People feel alienated. They feel impotent. They have not been taught to think. They have not been taught to use their minds. And they then are looking for answers. And unfortunately, this anti-conceptual mentality, this perceptual mentality, it gravitates towards the group and what's the simplest group to gravitate towards? It's hard to gravitate towards the workers of the world. It's not too abstract. It's much easier to gravitate towards people of the same color skin, easier to gravitate towards people of the same customs and dances and food and whatever that you have. And so it's in that sense that they gravitate towards tribalism. That's why Marxism in a sense today, among common people, among everyday people, particularly in Europe but also beginning in the United States, is morphing, is transitioning in. And Marxism was never big in the United States and it really never that big in here. But as they're losing whatever remnants of reason, whatever remnants of the Enlightenment were being lost, what you're getting in its stead is this tribalism. Now, people ask me, what about Poland? Because people use Poland as an example of, oh, there's no terrorism in Poland because they won't let in Muslims. But there's also no free speech in Poland. There's also a Christian proto-fascist regime in Poland that is not capitalist, that is not free, that is not good. Fine. I've already acknowledged that I think it's okay to stop immigration of Muslims into Europe. But to use Poland as an example. Now, somebody on YouTube is asking when I'll be in Poland. I'll be in Poland in November. I'll be speaking in Warsaw and in Krakow. So keep track of my schedule and I will be there. But you don't want, we don't want again a nationalist, proto-fascist, proto-religious kind of government as the solution. That's not a solution, that's death. It's just death a different way. Death a different way. And yet sometimes it's better to die quickly than to die slowly. Alright, so I think that's all I wanted to say about the future of Europe. And oh, I wanted to say one thing about culture. And then I wanted to say something about Islam. Multiculturalism is really, I mean, it's an anti-concept. There's no such thing as multiculturalism. What is culture? I mean, culture is the sum of achievements of a particular group of people. Some of individual achievements, because achievements are individuals. But it requires achievement. In many respects, Ayn Rand said that, you know, America never had a culture. Because in the arts at least, there were no great achievements in America. Most achievements, the American achievements were in technology and in business and in the production of wealth. And so to talk about African culture, there were no achievements there. Or to talk about Islamic culture. They haven't been an Islamic achievement in a thousand years. You could talk about Islamic culture during Islam's golden age, you know, from something like, I don't know, listen to my history of the Middle East. It covers it there. I think it's from 800 to like 1200 and something, right? Until a Ghazali destroys all remnants of civilization in the Islamic world. There is no really Islamic culture. There are no real achievements. In Europe, culture really becomes culture in terms of achievements. In terms of something to be proud of. In terms of something to embrace. Only with the Renaissance. I mean, before that was Christianity and there were no achievements there. Christianity doesn't achieve much. So it isn't, you know, so this thing with Fleming, let's talk about freedom in a multicultural world. It's not about a multicultural world. It's about people of different backgrounds living together under freedom. And I think, as I said, I think the only way that can happen is if they treat each other as individuals. The only way that can happen is if they respect the individual. And then whatever that group of people in that particular geographic area achieve, that is their culture. But culture is an achievement, is my point. Just because you have pizza doesn't make that culture. Just because you have ethnic food, I mean, doesn't make it that you have culture. Culture is an achievement. Culture is great art, great science, great approach to, you know, I think America is culture's business because that's where its achievements were. And that's its strength. All right. And think about that. I mean, this is what George Meenot's about, these alt-right types. They talk about our Western civilization. What the hell have you ever done to consider yourself part of Western civilization? Indeed, you're not by holding alt-right views. You're the antithesis of Western civilization. You're the enemy of Western civilization. You are collectivism. Collectivism is the enemy of Western civilization. The essence of Western civilization, as I said many, many, many times, is individualism and reason, respect for reason. That's the essence of Western civilization. You cannot be a collectivist. You cannot be a tribalist. You cannot be an emotionalist and claim to be a part of Western civilization. Those Nazis, those KKK and anybody who supports them, anybody who's willing to be in the same room with them, anybody who's willing to march with them is not part of Western civilization. All of those people are the enemy, the enemy of Western civilization. So don't go claiming my culture. You don't get my culture. You have no claim over the culture of civilization because you are the essence of uncivilized. All right, I want to say something about culture and there was something else here that I wanted to cover. All right, any questions you guys have? Yeah, look, somebody's asking about statues of Columbus. Look, Columbus is a good guy. I mean, he's part of civilization. He's part of the discovery of the West. He's an explorer, he's an adventurer. He's an exciting guy now. Did Columbus do a lot of bad things? Yeah, he was a crazy Christian. Oh, there it comes again, the evils of Christianity, which I keep hopping on. But the fact that statues of Columbus are going to come down, yeah, I mean it's been inevitable that statues of Columbus are going to come down. For years, people didn't want to celebrate Columbus Day and Columbus is being taken out of the school books as a good guy and replaced as a bad guy. So yeah, I'm not surprised that statues of Columbus are coming down. They shouldn't, but they will, and that is the enemy. The enemy is these leftist intellectuals, but the problem is that there's no counter to the leftist intellectuals. Christianity is not a counter to them. Now, I do not view taking down the statues of Columbus as the same as taking down the statues of a treasonous defender of slavery who waged a war in order to protect an evil institution. The generals of the South and the politicians of the South of the Confederacy do not deserve to be respected in the public square with the statue. You want to have the statues in your private collection or in your private grounds, or they should certainly be museums to be remembered for the evil that they did. 600,000 kids died during the Civil War because of what these people did. So, yes, the left is going to want to take down Columbus, and then they want to take down Jefferson Memorial, and they're going to take down a lot. But if we say we're going to defend all statues because we want to defend Columbus and Jefferson, because we can't differentiate between Columbus and Jefferson and Jefferson Davis, then we've lost a battle in advance. You have to be able to differentiate. You have to be able to discriminate. You have to be able to make choices. That's what reasoning minds do. And if you say I'm going to be against everything the left is for, then that's nonsense. That's just being stupid. And it's futile, and you'll lose. We will lose if that is our approach. We have to have a positive agenda, and the positive agenda is pro-Jefferson, pro-Columbus, pro-Fonding Fathers, pro-Capitalism, pro-Reason, pro-Individualism. Oh, yes, I wanted to say this. Now, again, I don't know why I need to say this because I'm sure I've said it a thousand times, but maybe I'm too sensitive. I think this is the problem. I think I read too many comments on Facebook and Twitter, and I'm too sensitive to my critics. I think I need to be less sensitive. But for those of the people out there, it's kind of funny. So I was eating at a restaurant last week, a Lebanese restaurant. I happen to love Lebanese food. I generally like Arab food. And part of that is what I grew up with, and I like that food. And I'm sitting at this restaurant in the fanciest hotel in Geneva. It's called President Wilson. It's got the whenever VIPs visit Bill Gates or whatever, they stay at this hotel. And I'm eating dinner there. And I think the hotel, I don't know, but there are a lot of Arabs in this hotel, Arabs all over the hotel and in the restaurant. And they're talking Arabic and I'm eating food, and I tweet something like I'm sitting in a Lebanese restaurant eating Arab food. And everybody's speaking Arabic around me, and it gives it a sense of authenticity. And oh my God, that created a firestorm. Iran is a Muslim level now, and he loves Arabs and he is, you know, further appeasing the world. And I mean, you guys, whoever thinks this, it's just nuts. It's just nuts. You know, this is one difference between me and many of you. There's actually no Muslims. And I know Arabs. Arabs, by the way, is a broader category than Muslims because you can be a Christian Arab. I know Christian Arabs, I know Muslim Arabs. I'm friendly with Christian Arabs. I'm trying to think of a friendly with Muslim Arabs. I don't think I'm friendly with any Muslim Arabs right now. But I was, I had Muslim friends, if you will, colleagues. I worked with Muslim Arabs in Israel. They're good people. Not all of them, but there's some. They're individuals who are good people. You can be an individual Muslim Arab and be a good person. Somebody also said on Facebook, also drove me crazy. And again, he said, Muslim can never convert to objectivism. Muslim can never become objectivist. That's blatantly false. I know a number of objectivists who became objectivists who were previously Muslims. There's a film director in Hollywood. I forget his name right now. There was a guy who attended Okan from Kuwait. Who was a Muslim? Who is now an objectivist? If you look at the number of people following me on Facebook and Twitter and the people who listen to this podcast, there are people in Saudi Arabia. There are people in Yemen. There are people in Egypt. There are people in Morocco and Algeria. And suddenly in Turkey, which is not where almost everybody is, in Albania. And I was in Azerbaijan and I met some wonderful people in Azerbaijan who were secular Muslims. The idea, the idea that all Muslims are evil, that all Muslims as people are bad is nuts. It's insane. It's crazy. It's racist. It's stupid. And it's, you know, Ayan Hoseel Lee was a Muslim. And she rejected it. She became secular. She's a good person. She's a hero. But you have become so single-mindedly obsessed over this issue and irrational over this issue that you have fallen into the collectivistic, tribalist, racist trap and you call yourself objectivists. Please don't. Yeah, so I know Arabs. You know, I can swear in Arabic. I can't really talk much in Arabic, but I can swear in Arabic when I really, really swear. I swear in Arabic. Big deal. I love Arab food. Lebanese in particular. The food was good at this restaurant. Now, I've said it many, many times. Islamic The Islamic world is barbaric. The Islamic world is primitive. The Islamic world is, That's right. Somebody just reminded me on here. Bash grew up Muslim, right? Bash Faustin, who draws Muhammad, who risks his life to draw Muhammad, who has death threats against him, who is one of the biggest advocates against Islam out there in the world today, is an objectivist. How did he become an objectivist? If you're born Muslim and you grew up Muslim, that's it. That is such a racist view. Anyway, so Islam is barbarism. It is primitive. The only period in time where the Muslim world had a culture was when they discovered the Greeks and when they translated the Greeks and they absorbed Greek ideas into their culture. But as soon as they rejected Greece, in the 13th century, in the late 13th century, as soon as they rejected Greece, they deteriorated, they became poor, they were very rich, they became poor, they were conquered by the Mongols, they were crushed and they were conquered by the Turks. And even though many of these cultures adopted, many of these peoples adopted Islam, they never were successful afterwards. And today, they're barbaric. And one of the measures, I think I talked about this in my course on the history of the Middle East, is how many books are translated. They don't translate books. And they write very few books that are not religious books. There's very little literature that's not purely 100% religious. So my views on Islam have not changed. Islam philosophically is an enemy, is a threat, should be crushed. Politically, I think it's silly, and this is where I disagree with Bashe and many others. Politically, I think it's silly, inefficient, ineffectual, confusing, conceptually, to think that we're at war with Islam. I think that is an unhelpful way of looking at the world. Politically, we're at war with Islamists, with those who would try to impose Islam on other people by use of violence. We're at war with the regimes that promote Islamism. And as I've said many times, there are only really two such regimes that do this in a systematic way, and that is Iran and Saudi Arabia. And those are the countries that have to be destroyed and crushed. And if you do that, you take the wind out of the motivation and energy of much of this. All right, I did want to cover one of the topic. All right, I'm going to actually leave this topic for Sunday. It'll be better to do it on the blaze, because I want to talk about self-esteem. And I don't know if you saw the Matt Walsh video on self-esteem, and Matt Walsh has contributed to the blaze, so I am going to take him on on the blaze. I think that's a more appropriate place to do it. I will do that in a week or so. So let me end with a positive. I was in Copenhagen, and let me just say, I love Copenhagen. And by the way, I had Falafel in Copenhagen at an Arab restaurant, and Falafel was great. Okay, so anyway, Copenhagen is the great city. It's a... I like the blend of modern, modern architecture, modern design with some of the early 20th century, late 19th century buildings. But it's a very modern city. It's a very clean city. It's a fun city to walk around. It's great food. It's got a great vibe to it. The only thing that I don't like about Copenhagen is the people riding their bicycles drive me nuts, all those people in their bicycles. But Copenhagen is just this... It's got history, but it definitely has this... You know, it's got a lot of futuristic architecture. It's got a lot of really pretty design. And I've always liked Scandinavian design, furniture, and other things. But I learned something this last trip that was particularly fascinating. So there's a museum in Copenhagen, which I love. One of my favorite museums in the world. For sculpture, maybe the best museum in the world. It and the Mose d'Orsay and the Louvre. Okay, and of course the palace in Rome with all the Bernini sculptures. Okay, so there are a few of these places that are just temples of sculpture and just magnificent places to visit in terms of the sculpture. What makes this klepto-tech in Copenhagen unique is that the sculptures, they are all 19th century sculptures. Beautiful, romantic 19th century sculptures. Just gorgeous, male and female nudes. All kinds of poses, dramatic, sad, sensual. I mean, they have some sexy sculptures. The D'Orsay Museum has some sexy sculptures too. And just some magnificent sculptures. A lot of French sculptors. Paul Dubois, one of my favorite sculptors has a lot of sculptures in the museum. A number of other French sculptures. Some of the better Rodin's Rodin is very mixed. Some of his stuff is awful. But there are a few sculptures that are good and they have a few of those. But also some sculptures I've never heard of and some Danish sculptures, Scandinavian sculptures who I'd never heard of. And I've been there. This trip was my third time at this museum. This time I went with my wife and my wife spent hours and hours and hours photographing the sculptures. I mean, they were just gorgeous and just amazing. And I highly, highly recommend coming to Copenhagen especially to go to this museum. It's worth a trip. Talk about culture. Talk about achievement. Talk about positive values in life. And then on Thursday night they turn on the lights. It's dark and they have these spotlights and the sculptures and they make them look really dramatic. And they were beautiful. They were beautiful. So just gorgeous. But what was interesting above and beyond that? Not only are the sculptures amazing. But it turns out that the whole exhibit there in the Glypto Tech is a collection of one guy who basically created this museum to hold his personal collection. One rich guy by the name of... Oh, what's his first name? And he's going to have to help me. I mean, it's Karlsberg. He was a third generation in the beer business. And built the family business into this mighty beer conglomerate called Karlsberg. And in the 19th century he started buying up beautiful sculpture. And we actually went to his home where they do dinners and weddings and events. But it's usually closed but we called up and we kind of begged to come in to see some of the additional sculptures that are not in the Glypto Tech but actually in his home. In what's called now, it's a museum. And they let us in. And there's some gorgeous sculptures there. One of the KISS by Sinding is the name of the sculptor. But then a bunch of other sculptures. Amy Peacock told us about this museum. Not the Glypto Tech. That had been two years ago but the home of this guy, Karlsberg. And it turned out that he loved sculpture and he just started buying sculptures and he built a room in his home to put the sculptures in where he also used to host parties. And then he started running out of space because he kept buying more sculptures. He built another room, added another room and he'd have sculptures there. And all these rooms are gorgeous. Beautiful, tastefully done. Very, very nice. And everywhere in the home there are paintings as well, sculptures. But the primary was sculpture. And he kept adding rooms until his family said this is ridiculous, you can't keep doing this. So then he basically built this museum, the Glypto Tech, in central Copenhagen and where he put most of the sculptures. Some of the sculptures remained. And one of his motivations was that he really wanted people to enjoy the sculptures. He said, look, he thought everybody could enjoy them and he was a benevolent guy and it wasn't altruistic. It was, his name was Carl Jakobsson Kalsberg and he wanted everybody to enjoy the sculptures. He built this museum so that anybody could enjoy the sculptures and indeed some people do. The amazing thing is the museum is always empty. It's always empty. Almost nobody goes there. Nineteenth century art is not very well respected. It's not appreciated. Even the museum bookstore has almost nothing about the sculptors or the sculptures that are in the museum. Almost all the stuff in the museum bookstore is modern art, a lot of garbage. The one focus they have is in Rodin because Rodin is kind of the pivot point between 19th century art to modern art. Anyway, I thought that was pretty cool. Here is this industrialist, entrepreneur, rich and who collected art and who valued beauty and understood the importance of beauty and supported artists and made it possible for these artists to do well in life by buying their sculptures and by commissioning works. You can see he collects certain artists and he must have had a huge impact on the lives of those artists given how many of their sculptures he has. The website doesn't do the sculptures justice. There's just not enough of them. I'll post some of the sculptures on Facebook in a while. I've posted some in the past. I'll post more on Facebook. I've known about these sculptures for a couple of decades. Some of you were a fan of mine a long time ago, photographed the sculptures and showed them to me. I knew I just didn't know they were the Glyptotech. If you're in Copenhagen, the first time I was in Copenhagen with my wife, we went there and it was closed. But we didn't know what we were missing. It took me years later before I went and discovered all this beautiful art. It was a trip to Copenhagen. Copenhagen is a wonderful city generally. People are friendly. It's buzzing. It's rich. It's exciting. And maybe Bernie Sanders is right. Huh. Didn't think of that. All right. Me and Bernie Sanders praising Copenhagen for different reasons. Capitalism. The elements of capitalism Copenhagen are still going strong in spite of government. But Karlsburg. Karlsburg. Remember Karlsburg. Successful entrepreneur. Incredible support of the arts. And go enjoy. Go enjoy. So that's my positive value of the week. And with that, I think we're going to bring this show to a close. Thank you for listening. I apologize again for the technical difficulties difficulties and the delays and the hassle and so on. This is what happens when you're on the road trying to do it from the other side of the planet. I mean literally the other side of the planet. Sometimes it works better than other times. I'm not sure exactly. Maybe I'm trying to do too much trying to stream this in too many places but here we go. Thanks a lot everybody for being patient with me and I'll talk to you next when I think yeah next time we'll be from the US so I'll talk to you then. Alright, goodbye.