 Oh, we're gonna be. Oh, hi. Hi. We're all the way live. So I'm all the way live. All the way live. You could load in a wave or an audio file. So when you hit start broadcast, they could automatically like play your intro or something. But. But. But. Wait, is that public domain? Can we use it? I. Yeah. No. You're the NFL team. No, it's the Monday. It's it's the old Monday Night Football theme, which Monday Night Football doesn't use anymore because they can't get exclusive use of it for some reason. But I don't know if that's just. So I mean, I feel like I like have just heard that on TV. Maybe it's just in my brain still. Oh, yeah. I mean, people use it a lot. But and I think Monday Night Football even plays it sort of as part of it. Yeah, yeah. That's what it is. But then they got the all my rowdy friends are here from Monday Night. Are you ready for some football? I don't even know if they still do that. Actually, I don't want. I think it's I think it's like a different song this year. But same idea where it's like it's like a, you know, a. Super star of some kind doing a little music video off the top. It used to be. What's that? What's her name? American Idol girl who used to. Carrie Underwood. Yeah, used to be Carrie Underwood. Yeah, I didn't realize it wasn't still. Well, I might be I have no idea. I'm not sure I am apparently not ready for some football. Your Monday Night parties are just just different. Yeah, I'm unprepared for football. Although I went to an NFL game like in person. I saw you guys went to a Rams game, right? Or no, chargers game. Well, it really it really was a Raiders game. Yeah, but it was in the Los Angeles. Yeah. No, I I told Eileen I was like, it's going to be mostly Raiders fans there. She's like, oh, it won't be that high. How many do you think it really built? I don't know. We get there. It's like 75 percent Raiders. It's crazy. And it was I should know this. Are they playing at USC? No, that's the Rams are playing in the Coliseum at USC. The chargers are playing in the L.A. Galaxy Stadium, which is the StubHub Center, which is I don't know where that is. That's the I don't know. It's down in Carson. OK, so it's actually not in Los Angeles. Is it is that Orange County? You know, that's a good question. I don't think it is yet. It's like just south. Yeah, it's off the 405 right after the 90. Oh, well, no, no, that's not orange. Yeah, so I don't think it's quite to the Orange County yet. So it's not really far at all. It's not that bad. No, it took us 20 minutes to get there. OK, well, did you enjoy the stadium? Is it nice? I've been to that stadium to see rugby before. It's small. It's a tiny stadium. So it's kind of great to see an NFL game because it's intimate. Sure. Wow, I'm really close to the action here. Yeah, yeah. That's how I felt when I got to run a couple of plays. We all did that intimate. You're going to play football. Everybody got a chance. Like, all right, well, I don't know. But that's how I felt when I went to Staples to see the Lakers, like the Warriors and the Warriors won. But I just hadn't I had been to Staples to see a hockey game, which is hockey always feels very, you know, you're just kind of right up there. But. But yeah, we were up fairly high and it still felt like we were so close. It was really fun. The best part is they do these little sideline things during the TV timeouts where they're like, you know, we're going to give away Super Bowl tickets. They're going to give away groceries for a year. And some of them are just giveaways. Some of them are challenges. So one of them was this guy who had to like recreate what one of the chargers did in a video. And it was like throw a football at a bunch of blocks, you know, like knock down the milk crates kind of thing. And so he did it and he won. And they're like, what do you have to say? And he's like, let's go, San Diego. Oops. Well, old habits die hard. Yeah, I guess so. All right, should we? Look at that one 30. Huh, Roger, are you ready? Yes. Sarah, would you like to read the. Sure, by you. Sure. There we go. Three, two. Daily Tech News Show is powered by you to find out more head to deal at technewshow.com slash supports. This is the Daily Tech News for Thursday, January 4th, 2017. No, 2018, 2018 from DTS headquarters in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt from Studio Theline, where sometimes it also feels like 2017. I am Sarah Lane and the person rapidly changing the document to say 2018. I produce a Roger check. Yes, I think perhaps I was reminiscing when I wrote that. Good times, good times. But it's only four days in now. We had to make the mistake sometime, right? Got it out of the way. Done. It's sort of like having your Christmas tree up. You have to Valentine's Day to get your act together. Exactly. We we don't have Justin Robert Young today, if you're wondering, he is still in Japan enjoying some noodles and Richard Nixon backpacks. And I don't know what all he's having a great time. But he will be back next week. Let's start with a few tech things you should know. Nintendo says the Switch broke US records for the fastest selling game console ever with over 4.8 million units in just 10 months, which passes Nintendo's own 4 million Wii console sold in its first 10 months. Worldwide, Nintendo sold more than 10 million Switch consoles. Samsung introduced the Exynos 9 Series 9810 mobile chip. This is built on Samsung's second gen 10 nanometer process. It should use less power and can handle facial recognition as well as gigabit LTE. And of course it's expected to be used in some of the versions of the next Samsung Galaxy S phone. Blade announced its shadow desktop as a service will launch in California, February 15th and across the US in the summer. Here's how it works. Shadow gives you access to a Windows 10 PC from Android, iOS, Linux, Mac OS or even another Windows 10 PC with a promise to ability to play games at 144 frames per second in HD, 60 frames per second in 4K and zero latency on at least a 15 megabit per second connection. The service will cost either $35 to $50 per month depending on how far in advance you want to pay. Yeah, Patrick Beja has been looking into this for a long time. So he's really excited to talk about this once it launches here. A Chinese holding company made up of people who worked for the factories that made the mad cats gaming peripherals have brought the bankrupt companies assets back to life. Re-launching the company among the products to be shown at CES are a strike four mechanical keyboard with RGB lighting, the freak four gaming headset and the rat air mouse, which has wireless power from the mouse pad. If nothing else, very good product names. Definitely. Johnson Controls says that the glass that's GLAS thermostat with Cortana announced last year will be available for pre-order in March for $319. It supports temperature controls, weather and other skills through app browser or by voice. It can work in commercial or residential situations and supports most 24VAC heating and cooling systems. Now here are some more top stories and we're gonna start with the memory vulnerability. So it got a name since we talked about it yesterday. The Intel processor memory vulnerability is called Meltdown now. Google says its operating systems and cloud services are protected against this flaw as of now. Microsoft has been patching its cloud services and issued a Windows patch out of band Wednesday. Patches are also still coming out for Linux as well. Amazon has says it's patched most of its cloud systems and will soon have all of them protected. Apple apparently already had a fix in macOS 1013.2 and has some additional updates to that fix coming in 1013.3. So some people are calling it a partial fix. Meltdown was discovered by Technical University of Grofts in Austria, German security firm Kerberus Security and Jan Horn at Google's Project Zero last June and then they told manufacturers about it including Intel. Intel, Google, Amazon and Microsoft among other companies have been working on a fix since then. That's the one we talked about yesterday. A second chip flaw affects more than just Intel processors. We were kind of talking about this. It was a little fuzzy what it meant yesterday. Now we have more clarity. The second flaw is called Spectre. It affects all chip architectures. Well, almost all chip architectures including AMD and ARM. It is considered difficult to implement but if it is implemented say by a sophisticated state actor it could collect sensitive data though they say it would not be able to corrupt modify or delete data, it would just be able to spy. Google and Intel claim they have fixes to make their products immune to Spectre. A lot of people said this will require a re-architecting of the chip. Intel says, nope, we've got 90% of our products within the past five years have updates and at least by the end of next week they say that 90% of the processor products introduced with the past five years will be immune. So we know less about the Spectre flaw but at least Intel is saying that it has fixed it. So we know that Spectre was discovered by Google's Project Zero as well and independent researcher Paul Coker. Now in reaction to this, we got a lot of emails from people and we appreciate all of them. We picked one, Sarah, to sort of represent the reactions. Yeah, this one comes from Michael O'Neill who works as a data center infrastructure architect for a Fortune 500 company been in IT for 16 years. Michael says, you gave a good explanation on this bug yesterday. Pretty bad but I'm not quite in the sky as falling hype mode that some of the tech sites are depending on what you're reading. First, all the major hypervisor OS vendors are close to having patches out. And second, when was the last time you were really held back by CPU and physical memory performance? I don't think most people will notice the hit that developers, the hit because developers are crafty and come up with clever workarounds. I saw some initial benchmarks for a few games running on a patch Linux platform, for example, showing little to no impact, generally less than 5%, nowhere near 30%. In the enterprise space, getting things patched is a major priority to assist security, obviously. It'll be a headache for sure for data center folks for the next couple of weeks, but we've also spent the last 10 plus years abstracting hardware and making systems horizontally scalable, while also allowing for dynamic performance scalability. It's just a matter of throwing additional hardware at the issue. By no means am I saying Intel should not be held to the fire here, but it's also not insurmountable. I don't see the scorched earth and litigation hell that some are claiming will come. Just wanted to chime in as a voice of responsibility and sanity. Well, thank you, Michael, for that. I tend to agree with most of what Michael's saying here, except I will add, and he said this, but this is very bad. This is a very bad vulnerability when it's at the processor level like this, and it affects all processors for the past 20 years. That's bad. When people, you know, New York Times, Nicole Pearlroth, who's a great reporter yesterday, was saying, people I'm talking to are saying, you won't be able to patch Spectre that you'll have to change the processor to do it. That's bad. Now, Intel seems to think that they have made their processors immune to Spectre with a patch. I hope that turns out to be true. I can't imagine Intel would claim that with as many eyes that are on this they're willing to poke holes in it if they're wrong. But all of that said, us as normal non-server users, put yourself in your personal computer brain for a second, this isn't a horrible vulnerability as far as other vulnerabilities go. Someone has to get into your machine to begin with to take advantage of both of these. Meltdown is now patched. So as long as you are following good security protocol, Meltdown shouldn't be a problem for you. And even if Spectre isn't properly patched, let's assume that it wasn't, someone would have to crack into your machine already. So you already would have a problem. And there are ways to get that information otherwise like keyloggers and things like that that could cause problems for you anyway. So I'm not saying it isn't bad, but I'm saying there are plenty of bad things out there. And this isn't the one that's going to cause all the computers to need to be thrown away. Well, I mean, I think part of the, I mean, I'm kind of 50-50 on what Michael says. It is a little, the sky is falling. But like what you said, I think that it is a significant issue. And I think what happens is not maybe directly what impacts the chip, but the knockoff effect, especially in markets like, for example, will this depress kind of people waiting to purchase new hardware as they wait for chip vendors to basically come out with, hey, this is, we fixed all the flaws that you've read about this new chip and they're just holding out for that. And so- Well, Intel's saying the current chips are immune. So they're trying to say, you don't need to wait for a new chip. There is no new chip to wait for. Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, I mean, I'm being a little skeptical of Intel's claims because Intel of course is going to spin it in the best light, but it is a flaw and it isn't even microcode. It's actually silicon, right? So you can't adjust it unless they decide to sandbox the processor, which would- Well, no, it's the page table. So it's in firmware for Meltdown anyway. Spectre we don't know as much about. Some people are saying vague things about it needing to be re-architected, but I haven't seen a good explanation of how it works. So Intel and Google telling me, no, we figured out a way to defend against it makes me think that maybe it's possible. Because again, I mean, you may be right, Intel wants to spin this positive, but Intel is coming out in a press release saying that Intel has issued updates for the majority of processor products that make it immune to Spectre. And if that ends up not being true and security researchers can prove that, this is going to be very bad for Intel. Well, especially since, you know, if the major companies were informed of the issue in June of last year, that's a whole half of a year where it's like, hey, if you're working on something that you think is a completely great fix, well, okay. But I mean, we, you know, the crowd gets so mad at companies for not disclosing data breaches. And in a way, this is sort of the same thing. It's somewhat unclear to me. And I know some folks who work in hardware sectors of some of these companies that are affected. And I mean, unless they're lying to me, they didn't know about it back in June. So it's kind of like, well, you know, what was really going on here? Who did know about it? And what was the protocol to get everything fixed? And why is there so much hysteria as of yesterday? Well, if I had to guess, and I'm totally guessing here, a limited team was made aware of this when COCR and Project Zero found it. They compartmentalized it because they didn't want it to get out and hackers to start punching away at it because it is such a bad vulnerability until it was fixed. I think their plan was we'll get all of our ducks in a row and we'll publish the fixes the day we announce it. And normally, companies like our efforts like Project Zero, they don't give anybody a time. They're like 90 days fix it or not. This was so bad, it sounds like they said, look, let's not tell a lot of people and let's keep it under wraps until we actually can fix it so that the day we announced that it's this horrible vulnerability exists, we've got a patch for it. Problem was it leaked out, the register published it and they weren't quite ready with all of the patches yet. Yeah, I mean, part of it is wine skeptical because it's literally a design philosophy for all these chips in the first place, right? The speculative execution, the brand's prediction. These are things, these are design philosophies that they built into the chip because they wanted performance. So if what is the vulnerability as part of this, I mean, it's essentially like putting in emissions control on a pre 1970s car, right? You blunt the performance because it wasn't designed, it was designed to run in a certain way. So yeah, but not everything needs the, not everything needs the kernel memory access. So if you're running a system that really calls on the kernel a lot, this is going to impact your performance. Even things like Bitcoin mining don't really call on the kernel that often. So it's not going to impact everything equally, gaming and Bitcoins from what I'm told are not going to be impacted by this. Other things are. I'm assuming database applications and server level. Yeah, yeah. Anything that's memory access intensive, not memory intensive, but memory. Not just memory, but kernel memory particularly, yeah. I mean, the other thing is this lets you, before the fix, this lets you peek around virtual machines and we have so many servers doing virtual machines and virtual public servers. This is a nightmare for cloud services. And that's why they are scrambling to get all of this stuff patched as soon as possible because the proof of concepts are already being published. Well, I am calling off and any new hardware upgrades for the next year. All right. All right. Well, at the beginning of the show we talked about the fact that it is a new year, 2018. Some people make resolutions. Mark Zuckerberg happens to be one of those people. In fact, he's been doing this sort of publicly for the last few years. Zuckerberg says his challenge for 2018 is to focus on protecting the Facebook community from abuse and hate. Well, that's nice. Defending against interference by nation states, also a plus and quote, making sure that time spent on Facebook is time well spent and quote. He also said he plans to investigate decentralizing technology like encryption and cryptocurrency to see how best to use them in Facebook services. Yeah. Well, finally, Mark Zuckerberg wants to make Facebook better. I mean, I'm only half kidding. So wait, is Mark Zuckerberg the CEO or Mark Zuckerberg the father talking? Because it kind of sounds like one of those things you say on perhaps if you're seeking office you want to assuage people. Sure. Yeah. It's sort of re-upping some commitment that was not fulfilled adequately already but was assumed to have already been a commitment. I mean, what else could he do? He has made a tradition of at the beginning of the year saying, I'm going to read 15 books. I'm going to learn Chinese. I'm going to hunt all the meat that I kill it myself. If he did that this year in the current climate that people are hammering on Facebook and other social networks to fix everything, fix all hate and fake news and everything else, he would be roasted. So he really couldn't say anything else but this. I mean, yeah, I agree. At the same time, it doesn't feel as sincere as it could be. It just doesn't. Well, I mean, I don't think he could have said it in a way that would make you feel like it was sincere, Roger. Well, for me, no. Well, I don't think that this is insincere. I'm sure he sincerely hopes that they can squash a lot of these problems that more and more seem to be pervasive on Facebook. The encryption and cryptocurrency in Facebook services, that's extremely vague, obviously. But I'd like to know a little bit more about that. Well, I found it very interesting that he took the time to talk about centralization. He didn't have to, right? But that is something that I and on this show and other people have been starting to say, like, hey, there's too much centralization. And he decided to address that. That's the one that if you're going to look for sincerity, that seems more sincere because he didn't have to say that one. He could have skipped right over that. It also makes me wonder, like, Facebook doesn't win in a decentralized world. So either he's worried about a wave of decentralization and wants to figure out how to survive it, which would be smart, or he's trying to figure out how to co-opt decentralization and stop it from happening, which I guess would also be smart. He could try to maybe not co-opt, but at least nudge it in the direction that he finds most favorable considering the conditions he's under. Facebook is famous for changing algorithms left and right. And it's definitely a different service than it was when I joined, or even five years ago, or even a year ago. But I love the quote about making sure that we're all spending time on Facebook and feeling that it's time well spent. I mean, I don't, I enjoy Facebook. I'm on it at least once a day, if not more, to kind of catch up with everybody, but it's time well wasted. That's kind of how I feel about it. I mean, and it's like, I just don't know how many changes Facebook could make because it's all about the company that you're keeping on Facebook. And I love all my Facebook friends, but you know, it's, I wouldn't say it's the best use of my time. I don't like to be on Facebook, but I feel like I'm missing out. I have people assume I know things that I don't because I don't spend enough time on Facebook. And yet when I go to Facebook, it makes me feel awful. Like that's just, it's a horrible situation. It's also, and not to get too into the weeds about social networks, but I will make a joke on Twitter that's like a little bit of like a wink, wink if you know this, you know, story about the meltdown, you know, vulnerability and then you like get it. Like it doesn't work on Facebook. It just completely falls flat. My mom's like, what's happening? My aunt's like, what do you mean? And so it's, you know, they're not all the same. Yeah. There are different users. All right. Here's something that always gets my goat. Let's pretend it's 2010 again, Sarah. And I'm complaining about 4G, except this time I'm complaining about 5G. AT&T announced its plans to launch real 5G service. So not fixed 5G. There's already built into 5G a little bit of confusion because there's fixed 5G, which is one that's designed to deliver 5G to your house as a replacement for wired internet, right? And there's a few of those rolling out this year. But AT&T announced its plans to launch the other version of 5G, the 5G wireless mobile service in 12 cities by the end of 2018. Now that is a surprise. A lot of people didn't think we'd get any of this kind of 5G rolled out until 2019. So it's spec-based mobile 5G is another way you might hear about it. Now, those are legitimate uses of 5G. There is fixed, and they're spec-based 5G. These are two different versions. But AT&T is also rolling out 200s of cities in the US this year. A fast LTE service, which it's calling 5G Evolution even though it's not 5G at all. It's just really fast LTE. It's like gigabit LTE. AT&T also didn't announce any cities that were supported for this 12 cities of 5G service. They wouldn't even tell us what 12 cities they are. So I'm a little skeptical about that. But what really gets me is that they're calling LTE 5G Evolution while they've got real 5G that they wanna roll out. Well, okay. So I understand why you're grumbling about this because yes, it does sound like 4G all over again and LTE and what's the difference and people are confused and speeds aren't the same. But how do you get away with calling something 5G Evolution? Is that supposed to be like, I don't know, a play on words where it's like the evolution of the 5G? LTE stands for long-term evolution. So they're borrowing the evolution from LTE. But... It's both. It's LTE and it's kind of 5G because it's really fast although there's nothing 5G about it. It's basically marketing buzzwords and hoping to leverage the idea of 5G with perhaps consumers who might not be as well-versed on the intricacies of the various mobile data platform. Oh, I know, yeah. I mean, they did it with HSPA Plus too. They called that 4G even though it wasn't 4G. Which led to us calling LTE LTE because if you called it 4G, people were like, well, do you mean HSPA Plus or do you mean LTE? Gosh, it really is 2010 again. Just with a 5. Just stop it. I also, it would be nice to know what the 12 cities are. Yeah, I'm curious about that too. Maybe we'll find out at CES, maybe there's a little teaser announcement. Moving on, the Tribune newspaper claims it was able to buy login credentials to India's Adhar citizen identity database for $8 apiece. The login gives access to people's names, telephone numbers and home addresses. The unique identification authority of India is now investigating what it calls an instance of misuse. Put it mildly. And has filed a police complaint. Biometric data like fingerprints would be needed to access more detailed information on citizens and such protections apparently not reached. Now I was not familiar with what Adhar was before the story and it sounds like it's a way for everyone in India to have a unique number, much as social security would be in the US for adults anyway. And it sounds like Tom, my question was, well, I mean, especially in rural areas, I mean, how many people are actually being counted here and it's quite a high number. Yeah, apparently they've got- The total population. 99% of Indians are signed up for Adhar or at least covered by it. And I think even above 90% actually use it. So, yeah, I mean, you can be signed up and not ever use it, but most people are using it. So, you know, the idea of a breach of this is quite frightening. At the same time, I don't think this is a breach. We're still waiting for more details on what the Tribune newspaper actually was able to get. But people use logins and passwords and reuse them all the time. One of the reasons that Adhar put in the biometric needs for the more detailed information was that risk. This may have just been somebody who ran a script on known user password combinations that came up with a list of them and then sold some to the Tribune newspaper. That would not be very remarkable in my opinion. If, however, they were able to get into the database somehow and get these user names and passwords, that would be a huge deal. There's no indication that that's the case, though. $8 each, though. That's pretty cheap. Yeah, I was like, you know, total population of it, yeah, boy, you gotta have some deep pockets. But yeah, if you were interested in a certain family or people who worked at a certain company, I could see where this would be a real issue. And yeah, breach maybe not so much as information falling into the wrong hands. Change your password if you're worried about it. That's what I would say. Change your password. Wired reports that papers in science and science robotics today describe muscles for robots that use a series of oil-fueled pouches activated with electricity. So they've had liquid-fueled soft muscles for what they call soft robots for a while, but they all required a reservoir that pumped the fluid into the muscle, which isn't terribly convenient. These just stay in the pouch. It's similar to a human muscle in strength and efficiency, but can contract more often per second. The hydraulically amplified self-healing electrostatic actuator, or hassle, as they're calling it, could also be used in prosthetics. So if you wanted to have a more natural soft limb replacement, you could use these muscles for that. The way they describe it in the Wired article is think about a Ziploc bag that's filled with some air. When you squeeze it, the edge of the Ziploc bag will move towards you. That's kind of how this muscle works. The actuator squeezes the oil, the oil moves and causes a contraction, which can then be used to apply force and lift things. There's a GIF on the Wired article about this. If you combine that with some of the self-healing materials that have been developed, you can make skin on a soft muscle, have yourself a pretty realistic robot. Or prosthetic. Or prosthetic, either one, yeah. So this is more about the implications for how it would help humans rather than soft robots. No, I think it's both. I mean, it's definitely going to be something that could be used in prosthetics, which is huge. And that's probably the bigger, more immediate use of it. But soft robots are something that are sought for safety reasons. If you've got steel limbs in your robot working next to humans, there's more risk of injury. If you've got these soft oil muscles, that's a little easier to get along with in high-speed situations or dangerous situations. Well, I suppose too. We saw that video recently that went around where the robot did like a backflip. It's like, wow, but imagine if you've got that sort of give the way human bodies often do and something made of metal does not, then it increases the capabilities of acting more like a human. Yeah, so this kind of hassle is welcome. You know what they should do is basically team up with David Hasselhoff to promote it. Get hooked on that feeling. All right, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes, be sure to subscribe to dailytechheadlines.com. This is the show where we can dig in and discuss things more. But if you're like, I just want to know what happened today, dailytechheadlines.com is your place. Go check it out as a podcast, Amazon Echo, or even on the Google Home or Anchor app. Let's check the mailbag, Sarah. Let's, okay, this is in reference to a story about Apple replacing batteries and our conversation that we've had on going for a couple of weeks now about Apple's proprietary wave of doing things and how they don't necessarily want people to swap out hardware components. This person who asked not to be named is an authorized certified Apple Repair technician been in the IT field for over 25 years building and repairing computers and working as an IT admin supporting large companies and educational institutions. So big pay to be there says it's really frustrating and depressing and infuriating that Apple is continuing the race to the bottom for the design of their devices. Over the years, I've watched them be consumer hostile with behavior and increase with the difficulty of repair for their products, along with the removal of the ability to upgrade versus being forced to buy a new computer, non-removable batteries, keyboards that are part of the chassis, displays that cost five times what other laptop displays costs, soldered RAM, proprietary, and now even soldered in SSD storage, one move after another pushes the disposable mentality that has made them so much money with iPhones onto their Mac customers as well. There's just no reason for it. You can get a tablet from a big name competitor such as Dell that has more ports than a MacBook Pro and a removable battery, along with the removable standard SSD storage. And that's a tablet. Yeah, and she also wrote in and said in a follow-up email that the other thing she's noticed is that Samsung and other Android comparable devices often have larger batteries. So that may be one of the issues with Apple having these spikes that cause shutdowns because they just don't have the battery capacity because everybody wants nice, thin iPhone. So that's another part of it too. Absolutely. Yeah, so thank you for that email. Yeah, Roger. Oh no, I just think it's a consequence of their design philosophy, right? So the design philosophy isn't to make the most upgradable product ever, it's to make the most attractive and potentially irresistible product that we can. Hey, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit, you can submit stories and vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com and facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show. In fact, we'll be streaming live on Facebook Live during CES evening events. So you might wanna keep an eye on that and let us know what you think. Well, we would normally thank Justin Robert Young. We're gonna thank him anyway. Thank you, Justin Robert Young, for usually being here. We miss him. You know, I am enjoying his Japan trip. My carousel. Speaking of Facebook. He seems like he's having a great time. Can't wait to hear all about it. Yeah, so he'll be back next week. We've got Allison Sheridan tomorrow and then we're off to CES on Monday. In fact, if you're in Las Vegas, or if you're going to CES, join up for our tech thing DTNS dual meetup Tuesday, January 9th, 8 p.m. at the Level Up Arcade and Bar at the MGM Grand. It's not a reservation deal. We're just all showing up at the bar at the same time. So once again, that's Tuesday, January 9th, 8 p.m., Level Up Arcade and Bar at the MGM Grand. Maybe we should all decide to wear like a cool outfit so we can be spotted. Yeah. It happens to be really busy with. I'll show up in a suit coat over a button-up collar shirt. I will show up dressed in clothes. I will wear this. This is the exact same thing you have on right now. Small person in black, then you'll know it's us. But yeah, really looking forward to anybody who can make it. Can't wait to meet you all in person. Our email address is feedback at dailytechnewshow.com. Thanks for all the emails. Whether you're happy or sad, love the show, have a gripe, want to correct us on something, want to give us accolades. Just love reading all your responses every day. So thanks for that. We are live Monday through Friday at 4.30 p.m. Eastern, 2130 UTC at alphageekradio.com and dimaclub.tv. And our email address is dailytechnewshow.com. We'll be back tomorrow with Allison Sheridan and Len Peralta will be here to illustrate the show. Talk to you then. Show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Get more at frogpants.com. I hope you have enjoyed this program. We also, did you see that we had an email from someone who's like, what's the last word of your show? And I realized it was just insane program. It's the- It sounds like, you know, where I was like, what? It's not the first time that someone has asked me that, actually. Well, what else would they be saying? Well, I don't know. I mean, maybe it's- He does kind of, you know. I mean, he's making a funny voice. Diamond Club hopes you have enjoyed this program. I never really thought about it. I just assumed he was saying program. Who knows? Maybe he was saying something else. Using the context, you can tell it's program, but if you get too fixated on it, you might not be able to tell. Yeah. I also know, you know, he makes funny voices. So I'm like- True. I've gotten good at like deciphering them. All right, titles. 007 Spectre starring Intel, Arm and AMD. Raise the Spectre of Meltdown. I'll stop the world and meltdown with you. That's pretty funny. The Spectre of Speculation. Spectre haunts the Colonel's memory. Different Colonel. Mad Cat. Mad Cat says more than nine lives. Let's say a lot about that company. AT&G. Oh, AT&T and G and G and G. All the G's. Hasselhoff. Techwinters Meltdown. Meltdown, I assume that's missing a T. Skeptical. Spectre inside is pretty good. Spectre inside. That's a good one. Very bad. Evolution means we're fancy. It's 2010 again. Throw away your computer. Let's go back to an abacus. Don't throw away your computer. Anything that tickles thy fancy? Fancy tickling. I liked the stop the world and meltdown with you. Although- Although that was yesterday. Yeah, I was gonna say. Even though we didn't call it Meltdown yesterday. Mad Cat has more than nine lives. All Spectre world, Meltdown with you. It's too much. Oh my gosh, yeah. Yeah, don't do that. I was like, ah, see what you did there. It's just too clever. The Spectre of speculation is getting the most votes. That one's not bad. I like that one. Speculation, speculation. Spectreulation. Don't do that. Well, we all have, let's see, it's Thursday. So, well, not very many days. Several days to load up on that vitamin C because we're going to Vegas. And that's where everybody can take. Really, I've learned that drinking a lot of water and not shaking hands really works wonders. Oh, I need to buy a bottle. I've actually never left CES with the CES, you know, you know, horrible flu that happens. But I don't want it to happen this year either. So, and I remember moisturize your hands. Brian Cooley, go ahead. Oh, no, I was just saying, because you wash your hands so much as CES and it's already a dry environment, you want to make sure it's moisturized because then if you get cracks in your skin and stuff and you shake hands, it's more easy to... I remember one year, Brian Cooley... I'm all about the hand sanitizer and the purse. Cooley handed out like industrial strength hand sanitizer one year before CES. I didn't get that. I'm going to buy it over there because you can't carry it on the plane, right? Yeah, this is too much. Yeah. And if it's small enough, they have little like travel sizes at drugstores. All right, so we're going with... Specter speculation, right? The specter of speculation. Got it. I like it. Oh, I got it. Yeah, yesterday was let the chips flaw where they may. Flawed. Sun chips. They still make those? Chips, yeah. Sun chips? The snack food, yes. But the company's son got bought up by Oracle. But Oracle makes them still? They make some chips? They make a coffee, something called Java. Sun chips and Java, great snack. Great taste, less filling. Great taste, less filling. You know, they sell hand sanitizer in the airport, too. That's another way you can do it. Yeah, that's... They should just have like a shower that just squirts out nothing but hand sanitizer. They often... A lot of airports have the hand sanitizer dispensers where you can just get a little bit. I did it again, son of a... What'd you do? A lot of a gun. 2017 is of 2018. But you caught it. See, that's progress. Maybe you should put 2018 in the template. Then you'll never have to do it. I just put this, yeah. I'm still writing 1993 on all my checks. You don't write checks. I do. It really kind of annoys me now that I have to write checks. There's like two checks that I have to write every month. And I'm like, when are these people gonna update? The last check that I wrote, and I know this because I... I don't know, saw my checkbook recently and was looking through my receipts, but it was somebody who was like a cat sitter who would cat sit for me occasionally in San Francisco. And she was just like... She was old school, you know? She was older and she was like... Just leave the check on the counter. It just works for me. And finally I was like, Elaine, can I set you up with PayPal? Please? And she's like, why is it so hard for you? And I'm like, it's not. It's not hard. A pen, piece of paper, done deal. It just seems like it would be easier for you if she was not having it. No, well, I don't write a whole lot of checks to my sister, but my sister, when I do need to send her money, doesn't have PayPal. And I'm like, so I have to send you a check. You know, like we team up on a birthday present or something for my birthday. Right, yeah. That's like, really? I'd send you a check. But yeah, so, but my landlord wants a check. I'm like, all right. Yeah, I feel like, especially with like reoccurring things like that with landlords, I've pled my case before, you know, just direct deposit or whatever. And people are usually like, oh, that is better. Yeah, I'll be honest. I haven't brought it up with him because I have to write this other check for another thing. And I'm like, I can write both those at the same time. Yeah, it's not the end of the world. And the other thing is- Well, you guys can't see it because there was no good reason to bring a bunch of furniture into the small room. But I had mentioned that I'm gonna flip my rooms. Oh, right, yeah. To put the studio into the larger bedroom that, you know, who needs a larger bedroom just to sleep and then actually sleep in this room. And a friend of mine who gave me some furniture hand-me-downs when he moved, those hand-me-downs are now in my house. So the rest of my house is just disaster. Weird tables and just I was like, me everything and I'll just deal with it later. You know, I will not turn down free furniture. But yeah, I think it's gonna look really cool. So it's like, if you can imagine this room, but it's just, it's gonna be deeper. So it won't look, I don't know what the background will look like, we'll figure that out once I get in there. But on this side, there's kind of a little, kind of like a little wraparound couch. Not a big couch, but you know, bigger than a love seat. And then there's sort of a round table, actually a round table that can fit four or five chairs. So Roger and I be knights. What's that? Roger and I be knights of your round table? Totally, absolutely. Yeah, I mean, it's a big enough table that it would be sort of odd to just have one person there, unless you were to frame it a certain way. I don't know, gotta play with it. Yeah, anyway, it's really just a matter of like, it is the only thing, and this is, it's not like it's that hard to do. The only thing is that the bed needs to be taken apart. It's not just like, oh, are you gonna move the mattress? That wouldn't be that hard, but it's like, you have to take apart my bed frame, which I've just like, movers have done it for me, but I don't know what else to say. I wanna do it right, so. Is it metal or wood? The headboard is wood and the rest of it is metal. Gotcha. And it's just, you know, it just requires, you know, a few people to kind of prop it up. Yeah. I tried to get rid of our bed frame when we moved to San Rafael, because it was so broken, and the guy didn't want it, who moved it. And so I put it together, kind of jankily put it together. And then when we moved to LA, they just, because Google paid for the move, they just came in and took it apart. But then when they brought it in, they didn't put it back together. So then I had to like jankily put it back together. So our bed frame is like. You still have it. Yeah, we're still sleeping on it. It's held together by duct tape and milk crates right now. Like, it's ridiculous. And it's heavy, because it's all wood. Just give me the back spring of the mattress, and it'll be set. Box, well, we don't have a box spring, because this bed frame has a nice firm support, which I like. Oh, no, no, no, thanks, sir. The whole point was that I am familiar with the pain of disassembling and reassembling beds. Oh, Sarah fell out of the hangout. Yeah, let me guess. That's weird. Making the thing buzz. Buzz, buzz. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. I've got the right link there. I think I can publish this. I have the right stuff there, the right stuff down there. All right. I didn't move to a permanently new address. It's so weird. Can anyone in the chat room, if you still see this, say yes, we can still see it, the live stream. Anyone? Nothing. I mean, they would be saying, where did they go, I think, but yeah, give it the lag time. Somebody will say something, I'm sure. Can you see the stream? Ha, yes. That's a conundrum. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. There you go. All right, so I think I have properly published this. Oh, I stopped to pick up my kid in several three hours. It's so weird saying you have to go pick up my kid. Because it's weird to still have a kid? No, because I'm so used to her being around most of the week. I mean, it's great that she goes to school because she can interact with Pete. You know, she can interact with her own kind. All right. Well, I think we're done for the day. Thank you. Sarah says goodbye, we promise. Roger's going to stop the broadcast. Thank you for tuning in to this episode, and we'll see you tomorrow.