 brazilian david or tease i think really did not do himself proud talking about mike fire mike fires is the whistleblower who gave the interview to ken rosenthal and evin drylick of the athletic that started this whole euston astros science-stealing scandal uh... this is what orteez it's a orteez in red sock camp wearing a red sock uniform with a red sock backdrop behind them and this is what he said about mike fires i'm mad at this guy the picture that came out talking about it and let me tell you why after you make your money after you get your ring you decide to talk about it why don't you talk about it during the season when it was going on well what what what you didn't say i don't want to be no part of or now so you look like in a snitch you know what i mean why you gotta talk about it after that's my problem you know why nobody say anything while it was going on well the first off david nobody said a word nobody did second of all they continue to do it mike fires and on the another team in that division that's competing with the team that's cheating he should allow them to continue to do it so you're making the whistleblower out to be the guilty party here uh... day of david whether or not you want to uh... admit that you did pd's although you're on the list and you say you didn't whatever the case may be i'll believe you but there are a lot of people doing pd's during that time did you say a word so well you said what who's a better person though i guess that the guy who finally came out and said it even if it took a while to find religion or the guy who kept everything quiet and forced other players to take pd's to be on a level playing ground i agree with you he shouldn't say anything but i i think the reason the analogy is faulty on your part michael is that it's not like or t started spilling his guts after he left the red sox no i never spoke ever about anybody i understand but by his silence his silence other guys are forced to do pd's to be on equal no i understand that but mike fires said if he stayed on the ashes maybe never says a word and he probably doesn't ask us to stop because he's now an opponent but i think his problem is not that he didn't say anything why is he saying something now if you if you wanted to be chirpy why wasn't he chirpy then because that no one was chirpy i don't even brian mccann who supposedly didn't want to do it but nobody was chirpy but now he's facing that team i guess what david or t's is saying is if you couldn't say anything then you shouldn't say anything but he's wrong because he wasn't facing the team now i i but i fundamentally agree with you but obviously david or t's disagrees with you he thinks that if you're going to keep your mouth shut not saying anything while you're benefiting from it they just keep your mouth but they were good and in that clubhouse that didn't say a word i think h.a. hinge is a good guy he let it go on well here's my angle is that why would fires have any leg to stand on to stop it if mccann couldn't stop it right the manager couldn't stop it how do we know fires didn't try to say something and was shot down so that's where david or t's is wrong fires silence might have been necessary just to be able to stay in that clubhouse he wasn't a superstar by any stretch of the imagination and if mccann couldn't stop it it was a veteran if a j hinge couldn't stop it it was the who was the manager of the team that actually went to the lengths of breaking the monitors because he was so powerless to stop it then how did fires have any chance to say anything about it