 Big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy E.C.O. and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official. Miss Jamaica, what's going on? None, none, you know my dad walk on. Man, hey man, we got some guys in here today y'all. They been a lot, they been doing a lot of podcasting too. I mean, I'm looking today trying to figure it out. I've seen a lot of stuff going on. You boy working. And when they work, they work in a group. Always. Man, King knowing Toheed. What's going on? That Toheed name throwing me off. I need to know what the heck that is man. It's Islamic man, it means one with a law. Okay, okay. I like that. You know me, put me up on game. I don't know what's going on. I don't want to miss nothing nigga, I'm listening. So man, hey man, you guys man, like I said, I know y'all both got a heck of a story man. Backstories for sure, that's what we always seek for man. You know, the music and all that. I'm just trying to understand how you guys even got into dealing with this music. You know what I'm saying? And in a time like today's time with so much hype and everything being on all the social media platforms, you can make yourself look like something that you're not thinking to you making it all that other good stuff. How do you guys plan to be successful in what you're doing? You know what I mean? Stuff like that. We're going to get into it. Yeah, right. Yeah, I'd like to take it back. So let's start with Noah first. Okay. I know that you. King. Yeah. Give him his crown. Then he'll say a king. You got to believe him till he prove your own. You know what I'm talking about? Get a nigga this TN. Yeah. You know when God come in your life, you know, you be reborn again. So that first name, that's the old you. And when you be reborn, you're always renamed. You know, you get a new name. Yeah. So how old were you when you were reborn? 2013. So I was. Well, it's 20, 20, nine years and 42. So I was 30. What caused you to have to realize that? You know, it's always something detrimental, something serious that usually happened where people grasped to that. 2013, I got shot. So I always knew something was in me because they always told me when I was a little closer, I was anointed. They didn't know what that word mean at that time. But when I got shot, you know, when the home invasion people detected them, like, man, your story tells them, we leave that video camera. We don't know how you're still here. So somebody broke in your house? Home invasion. Wow. And you were there by yourself? Yeah. I was sitting in the living room with, actually, I was on my journey. I was a college back then. It was on milk. I was just getting called into, like, you know, the Lord and wanted to understand it because I had like a bad breakup. So sometimes I feel like having that bad breakup, God trying to show me something. We moved people around me. And so I was on the phone with one of my pastors on the Bluetooth. And somebody kicked my dough in while I'm on the phone with the pastor. Wow. And he was playing with me. And so he heard him, you know, running through the house and asked me with my money and all that. He actually called 911. But, you know, about 10, he got there. I already got shot. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah. So you, what made them come in your house was just random, you know? Oh. Because they came in a Bun B house a few years back. What made them come into your house? It's something, what you was flossing, you rode them on them bit bar cars or something? Oh. That's for me the truth. I want to know how come they came in your house. So a lot of houses in the neighborhood. Yeah. You know, my problem, I ain't gonna say it was a problem. I think there's every man I had a love for the women. Okay. And so come to my house, I had a juror box about 15 Rolexes. Yeah. There it is. Yeah. Come on. Yeah. I had the money counter sitting on the dress. Yeah. She worked at Lowe's and I came in and spent $200,000 on some flows. Uh-huh. And so. She set you up? She, I ain't, I can't even say she set me up, but like a week after that when I little came by the house, so we got like a few days after that. Well, love is blind, my brother. I ain't gonna play you. You say you ain't gonna say it. I ain't gonna let me get sad, you know? Y'all still together? No. Hey, listen, listen, listen, when I say God is good, like he really good because when the dude shot me, you know, I didn't know where it came from or what, you know, where it could be, you know, like, cause I'm always discreet and real laid back. I had never ever touched nobody. I never did nothing wrong. I'm always, I'm just that good, that good kid, a good heart. And I kind of figured, okay, they wanted them women do it or they was trying to get the life insurance. Cause I always had like stability, good creative, good jobs. I was, I was being one of the ones that, I can't tell you what a bad credit score look like, you know what I'm saying? So I was being one of the ones that was on point. Yeah. Cause you had a credit company when you were younger. That's right. I don't know, I was 20 years old. I was fixing people credit back in like 1990 or something. Yeah. I always be, I trips off credit. I be feeling like if you got money, you don't need credit. So I just feel like if you can afford it, you get it. And that's how both of us think. I lived that way for a long time cause I come from the streets, but I understand credit is needed as well. Oh, you don't want to see the CID? Yeah. Yeah. If you know what that, if you know, you know, you know, I don't like the IRS, you know what I'm saying? That department. Yeah. I just think that, you know, like I said, man coming up, I mean everybody had a story and hit that bump in the road when you did. But without it, you might not be here. You know what I mean? I know what I shadowed out without that. I was on my way to hell. Yeah. Yeah, I seen it. I seen hell. I got shot in the head. That's what I was about to ask you. Where exactly did you get shot? Yeah, I got shot in the head. Did y'all catch the dude that shot you? Um, it was two, three dudes. One got killed robbing a bank like a week later. The other guy, he in prison. And the other guy got killed in the dice game. Yeah. So you remember their faces and everything? Yeah, they was broad. They like. They didn't care. They didn't come in to make me to leave, to let me live. They came in as a kid and broad, they like cameras everywhere. How many shots in the head did you get? I got hit one time. They shot twice. They only found one bullet. They came in to do them, you know, tape it off and do that. They only found one bullet. And you were unconscious after that? I was unconscious after that. They thought you were dead. Well, I was, I was, no. When they hit my fail, you know, but I could hear them and they were like gone down and finished down them. You know, I could hear them, but it was some of the blood coming. But I can hear them and then I woke up. I was in the house, but. You see, God has a purpose for everything. I always say, because you're still here, you have a purpose still. I knew that second bullet. Where is it? They couldn't find it in the wall. They couldn't find anywhere. So I knew right then and then, like I told you, I had the out-of-body experience. It was a choir. Wow. I seen me walking down the choir. I know I can't sing. So I'm like, what am I doing in church? And you know, when I started getting closer to the word, someone told me that Lucille was once an angel. And he was, he was a choir. He was good and quiet. And he said, that was him trying to call you on in. And that testimony came to me at the barbershop. I went to like, like two weeks later, I thought, you know, I was doing my research, paying people trying to find out who was it so I can do what I had to do. And one of my partners that was once a gangster, he got hit nine times. And he told me, he said, hey, he got called to ministry like a week, two weeks before that. And he was like, man, God said, Venus is going to be here. Stop. Don't worry about it. Because I was trying to put whatever I needed to find to catch who I was trying to do, you know, he was like, man, God said, Venus is here. So by the time I went to the barbershop to get a haircut, it was a guy. The barber just came up. He only worked there two days. And when I was in the chair going through my cell phone, the dude stopped me and said, hey, you see that picture right there? Stop. He just barbed. He said, man, you see that dungeon right there? That hole? That fire around there? You reaching? Like reaching, trying to get up? He said, man, that's a pit of hell. That picture, say that picture. And when I zoomed that picture, there was the mark of me getting shot. So when I left that chair, I called my partner and I said, hey, bro, I don't know what's going on with this barbershop. But this dude told me I was on my way to hell. He didn't know nothing about me getting shot. He don't know nothing. And then like a week later, I went there. Everybody knew what happened in the barge. They're like, man, that guy ain't been back since. What you do that, man? That man ain't been back. You know what I'm saying? He just came just to give me that message. That message. So that's when I knew God was working in my life. You know what I'm saying? So I started just going more to church and bumping into people and then I bought a house, put me right next. And became like one of the best friend of the past. The key on him, the lighthouse church in Houston. And then my other pastor that was on the phone when I got shot was Pastor Brian Murr. And that's in Houston you got shot? Mm-hmm. And put me right in between both pastors. All the house didn't know they was both right there, which was my message. Put me in the middle of there. And then like a month later, I meet Bishop J. He told me something. He said, man, you know your Moses called me by the blue in the middle of church with like 8,000 people. So I said, man, God doing something with me. I don't know what it was. Even how me and Larry became like brothers. That was all God. You know what I'm saying? It's just, it's just, God was taking me in places. Everything we do every day is because of him. If you get up to breathe, it's because of him. So he ordered my steps. Yeah. Been doing this company three years. Got both of my artists signed to Cashmoney. They said, you can't get deals without having numbers or nothing like that. I can't say that because I got a deal with two artists without numbers. Signed to a major university. Signed to everything, you know. We're going to get into that. I want to talk with Tohee. One thing I want to commend you for, and I love the fact that you always mentioned God and every time whenever you speak, I've been watching a lot of your interviews and I commend you about that because, as I said, he's the reason for everything. Yeah. So keep that up. Yeah. So as a man thinking his heart so easy, that you got to understand what your path is and your purpose, whatever you thinking, that's where you're going to go with it. He's going to become something that you create. You got to be careful what you say. Tohee, what's up, man? What's going on, my God? I mean, you singing and everything. You a singer. I'm a singer. But you trying to rap. Trying to rap. He said trying. Okay, well, I want to know what's going on. I mean, you Chris Brown or something, right? Nah, man, I'm Tohee. I'm just trying to understand what's going on, baby. You know what I'm saying? So how did you end up, where are you from originally? I'm originally from Queens, New York. Oh, man. I can hear the accent. Queens, New York. It's still there because my family keep it on me. You like that old pizza they got out there? Need some more pizza, yeah. Nah, nah, y'all ain't got... There we go. Let me tell you something. He set me up because he loves New York pizza. I love Chicago pizza. I love my deep dish. I was throwing you the live pass. We get out up there with that pizza. So what part are you from? I'm from Queens. Queens. I'm from where Hakeem went to get his wife on Coming to America. No, no, you can't miss me. There you go. You can't miss me. I know where he went. So let me ask you this. So in Queens, they... Them boys rap up there, man. I know I've been to Queens a few times. But I'm just saying them boys rapping up there. See, I was young when I left. Okay, how old was you? I had to be like six, seven. Y'all go back. Heavy. Yeah. I still got family up there now. Cousins, uncles, all of them sell up there. Yeah. So, I mean, do you... Do you miss it? It's home. You know you can't stay too small. You done been exposed to too much other stuff, bro. It's hard for me in New York now. It's too much out here. Boy, it's hard. It's home now. Them room boys, they build up. They don't build out. I can't deal with it. I'm from Texas, man. That's for real. But I go up there and visit them. They got some nice offices. They got some stuff out there. But we was down there. When I was down there, I'm the youngest. Okay. I'm 17. Wow. Yeah, Papa Roller. That boy, I say 17. How many boys? Hold on. You said 17? 17. 17. Ooh, I didn't hear the teens part. That nigga say 17. That young nigga got it. And you are the youngest? I'm the baby. Wow. Wow. How old is the oldest? Ooh. He up there. He probably like 42. Damn. I hear his making some like that now. It was a stretch to me. No, he weigh up there. No. It's a stretch. It was a stretch to me. Hey man, what's going on, king? No, man. Talk to your boy. He was aPerfect man. I'm right there. He can't make us see his face, man. Well, what did this gal do? He weigh up there. No. He fought. I mean, you know, um, just, just, uh, to be in came, how did you, how do you like being with, uh, is it, uh, seven kings? Yeah. How do you like being with this label? Don't be scared to say your peace cause he's sitting there. Let me know what you feel. How long have you been with the label? I've been with what? We've been like three. Two and a half. Two and a half? Yeah. You ain't wanna, he ain't shelf you, did he? Nah. I'm just saying. Nah, nah. We there, we there. But before you talk, before you say, um, how you like it, I wanna know how did it happen and before that even happened, I wanna know when did you build your confidence in knowing that you can sing, that you have a talent? I wanna know when that happened and stuff. All right, so I'm not gonna lie. I was a little cocky growing up. Oh, you've always been that way. I'm a little cocky, but I just, I'm a wins kid when it comes to music. I like sound, sonics, all that stuff is, I love that. Like I self taught myself how to play piano in third grade. So I just been like. Are you like really good at a piano? Yeah. I was just like, I don't know. I just love music. So I always had to. You ever heard of Ty Harris? Ty Harris, nah. Look him up. For sure. Look him up. You gonna, you gonna like what you see. Okay. He get down and uh, he gonna tour with Snoop right now. Yeah. Okay. He serious. He was just on here. He ain't playing no game. So yeah. With that piano, he did. You cocky, you cocky. I wanna, I wanna, yeah, they come. Yeah. Me ain't been back since. Here. And he from Dallas. Yeah, you probably do. Okay. But I definitely want you to look him up. Cause you said that piano, that's what y'all. And you, and you know music. So, and y'all younger. So what y'all do with it is a little different than what, what your eldest would be with his party. You know, hell we can't get a show like y'all. But now like, like, so your music and your sound, I mean, you, you sing with the, you got the auto-tune thing going. Nah. Okay. Let me hear something then. Yeah. Acapello. Something. Yeah, I bet. Let me see that. Don't give it to him, man. Let him know what he's hitting for. All right, that's what came to my head. She said, baby, I'm afraid to fall in love. Cause what if it's not reciprocated? I don't know. Sound like that. All right. You can't just tease me like that. She don't play, man. I knew you were gonna stop. You can't do that. Yeah, yeah. He said, I think he's going to stop. You sound good though, man. Nah, nah, I'm gonna get out of here. Here we go. Yeah. I mean, you know, the thing I like is the fact that you can do it both ways. Cause there's nothing wrong with auto-tune. As long as you don't just, you know, do it. Get your key right. To death, right? Yeah, just get your key right. You gotta hear what you think. You the owner of the company? You know, like I told her that she said how I even met Tohe. I was in Onala. Somebody, another artist that wanted me to sign him. And Tohe was there helping him set up his video shoot. And they played a song on the video. I was like, who was that? They said, the kid that's skating on the skateboard. You know what I'm saying? I said, I want to sign him. I forgot all about the other guy. You know what I'm saying? And I just seen some men. I just seen how he was on the skateboard putting up, helping the other guy. Work at it. So it was, huh? Work at it. Yes, I seen it. And he was humble. Yeah. But I knew he was talented. You know what I'm saying? He just, he's still, you know, finding his, his weight. And then I said, I want to sign him. Talk to him. And I said, yo, I don't know what you got going on, but send me some of your music. So he sent me some music and maybe like a two weeks later, I called him up. I said, man, you never heard it. It's still called Southbox. What is Southbox? Southbox. I didn't even know nothing about it. I just started my company. And I had another artist called Young Al. And so I was doing a run with him. And, you know, baby knew and told me, like, come on here. Go do that. Southbox. I was a big dad in there. Like introduced me to him. So I went out there. Really with him. I flew him out there. And we just vibe. The, the first day we sat in, in the, in the SUV and just listen to his music. And all he was doing then was just really just straight singing. So it's like, how are you doing now? He didn't want to do no singing rap. He didn't want to do that. But I have a year. And I like, I just got this gift. I can say, I think he bigger than just singing rap. Cause like, let me just sing it. Because to break an artist singing, it's not like it was 20 years ago. So, you know, I just got a womb. Just got him. So when we signed, I said, man, just find a sound. Keep singing, keep doing, keep doing, you're doing, you know, and then eventually going to have, and then maybe one day they call us to come to Miami. That's what I miss. Slim and baby and all that. They need to drink. They say, man, you got something right there. You got a drink in a wine right there. He said, I ain't telling you nothing. I'm telling you, I discovered both of them. Yeah, because versatility is key. I can't just stick to one thing. Cause even in the industry right now, if you look at industry back then, you were only like a singer or rapper. Now you have to be a total brand, a total artist. You got to know the business. You got to know everything. If you don't, you're slipping. Yeah, you say slim. Let's get back to that. So you flew down there. You just flew down the slim. You just pull up. Give me the address now. I'll fly down there and just roll up on. Tell us the real in-depth detail. What you doing over at their house? Why you at their office? How you end up doing that? You know what I'm saying? We need to really understand. I heard Slim, a book that he had spoke on, I read and it was a real good book, Secret Minds of a Millionaire by T. Harvecker. And I took that book and I read it for year after year and even had my kids to read it because it was a very good book. And I didn't hear from him much, but when I heard him say that book, it made me go and research because he said he had read it while he was on a flight. So, you know, it's stuff like that. And he's been a... I'm a real big bird man, Slim. I'm a big fan, like, I don't play with that. You can't talk to me about nothing going on on the east coast. See how I looked over there? On the west coast or none of that. When it's down south, it's Birdman and Slim and Jay Prince. So all I'm saying is, tell me about what happened because I had to raise the shun and you remember I broke him down. I want to hear what happened up there at the breakfast club when y'all fell out and you was in there with Birdman. He was in there with him. When I interviewed him, I got the goods on there. Now I got you here. I want to hear about... You ain't got to give me that address. You know what I'm talking about. But just let me know how you guys came together. So, when the big doll... When the big doll called me, I first even got out with the university and I was in New York. We had a young add, my first artist. So we had a sit down situation with Universal in New York. And you know, Republic Records and Universal S-Cas money. You know what I'm saying? Of course. That's why they got that $30 million deal. Yeah. I was down in New Orleans last weekend and I was interviewing Kale and Mack and all of them and the lady who sent BG's music to Universal. What's her name? Shirani? What's her name? Shirani. She owns Peach's record store and I interviewed her. And Birdman and she talked about them having all of them being in the same car driving to the record store when they first started. So, I definitely understand that their cultureistic ways and the way they came with it is very important to what happened with the music in the South. So, I got to slam these up when, you know, this is about the smallest I ever been. Okay. We went on to rock. Because when I bring my brother Larry, I don't like a lot of people around. He like me. Me and Larry, about the same thing. So, he got moving in a comfort zone. Yeah. So, how many people you normally have with you and you normally move? Like, 15. Yeah. He been shot. He almost like... Remind me of PGF Short when he came down here. He had a whole movement with him. Yeah. That's what we all... We all know movement. Yeah. Because you really... That makes... That gives it a look, too. Because when you record it's very smart. It's very good marketing. I get it. He did music videos with the whole thing that he did? Yeah. You know, so, you know, and I'm affiliated with a lot of people. Okay. So, when you move in different places, they got to know the presence is them. Mm-hmm. You know, so, when I move, I know... move like the military. You know what I'm saying? Very militant. You know, I got a lot of ties to Chicago. So, a lot of my affiliations, we move militant. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, that's just how I move. And so, when I went to university, it was like 15 deep. Wait, wait, wait, man. See, that's when you and I went to university. It don't just happen like that. You know, just go to universal, bruh. It's the reason why you ended up in universal. You know, I walk in people meetings with millions of dollars. You know, I can walk in. I got friends. Mm-hmm. Well, I can walk in in Texas. And I walk in there. I know they millioned up. And I know we in the midst of them. But everybody can't, like, he can't go in. No. They don't know him. Yeah. But you gotta understand. See, I've been on the same... I'm an engineer for a company. Mm-hmm. So I can go in certain offices because I've built the whole city. You know, I know stuff people don't know. But everybody can't go there. Everybody can't go to universal. That's all I'm saying. Tell us how you ended up there. You really want to hear the truth? Yeah. Mm-hmm. I signed an artist that already had a buzz called Jungle Freestyle. Okay. So I'm a type of person that I research and I study everything. So I had researched the movement where Jay Prince did. I researched the movement with Slim did. I researched the movement that Damon Dash did. And I put it all together. And I got in the closet and I prayed when I was on the store of Seven Kings. Okay. That's why the number seven is very prophetic. So I prayed. I said, when I started this company, I created LSC, me and my sister. I did want God to manifest it. So I signed an artist not knowing that within, like, 40 days later that I'd be getting a call from the university. 40 days. That's just like... When you said 40 days, he's thinking for 40 days, 40 nights. Yeah. So I got a call. And they were like, who? The university wanted to come there. They were like, for real? Everybody like couldn't believe it. You know what I'm saying? I said, yeah. And so we got on a plane. I flew like 15 of us out there. And we went up there. And when I went, I make everybody be dressing. Hey, everybody be saying, saying this, saying that there was a lot of them in the beginning wanting to have their own swag. Yeah. I know... That's what we're doing. I know what they're doing. You know what I'm saying? So we went to the university. One of the Jewish guys came out. I'm like, hey, what's the name of your company? I say Seven Kings. He said, okay, y'all have a meeting on the seventh floor. You know what I'm saying? And so seventh floor, if you know anything about university, that's where the chicks get wrote. That's where the big stuff go on. But they didn't write me no chick that day. So when I got there, I just found that out recently. When you get to the seventh floor, you kind of made it up there. And so when I got there, they were like, man, you remember the old cash money. So about 30 days later from there, I just seen my Instagram. I started seeing like Birdman liking this stuff on my Instagram. And so I was like, okay, they're somebody talking. But not only that, because whenever y'all moved in that group, everybody was outfitted in the same outfits as well. So it made an image. Yeah, that's the image you want. You want to move in the same outfits. You want to be in sequence. That is definitely structure. And so I knew right then that they were watching us. And then my jeweler, I was buying some jeweler from God, and I increased the jeweler. And so we went to Mississippi, take him on a meeting run to the radio station. I stopped him by the chain while I was there. He said, bro, I'll put up this shit like this with Babe. I said, you got a line on him? And he said, yeah, I can call him up. So he hit Stunner right there. And he said, man, this guy here moving like you, bro. You know what I'm saying? And he said, yeah, I heard about him. He was in Universal Code weeks ago. So boom, I knew, you know what I'm saying? Right. They were talking. They talking. In the right circles. Yeah. And so he said, man, come out there. He said, man, you know, I like the little kid, little young guy. In the town, they ain't even know nobody told him. They ain't know nobody GSO fat. They don't know nobody. And you already had all of them at the same time? Yeah. Okay. And so I went up there based off the deal for young guy. And so I brought GSO fat. So he didn't even come with me at this time. So I brought GSO fat and ale to man. And then we went to like this big, one of these guy with them hotel, but one more five-star hotel. And before I knew it, I seen like full range rows of pulled up made backs and I was just pulled up. I'm like, I don't know. What? Who is he pulled up? But they come in like, King Jaffet Jovo. He was in Queens. Why would you? In Miami. In Miami. Yeah. So they sent this other, like, a Arab guy come out and talk to me and say, Slim, I'm going to come out and talk to you. And this and this and that. So when Slim got out, he just came to me and said, man, I like you. He just got the car. Can't struggle to me. So I like you. He did his research on you already. And then he was like, you say, man, my hair stand up on me when I get next to you. He said, you got a, you got a whole side to you. Yeah. That's what he told me. I was looking at him like, I don't even know about him, but he was hitting me on the money. He said, you got a good heart. He said, where the art is it? I said, there's no style. So I called them to come down and he know a family like 18 at the time. So he come out bad smoking. Oh my God. He embarrassed me. So he walked straight, he walked straight up to him and just, uh, and just tell him, tell him straight up that, man, I've been liking you. You know, I've been liking you. You the man. This, this, this, this. And then, he just told me, say, look, I don't know what y'all doing, but y'all need to listen to your big homie right here. He said, we're going to get the paperwork done tomorrow. I ain't heard my muse. I ain't said, I swear, he said, we're going to get the paperwork done tomorrow. He said, I'm a sign. He said, y'all got good energy. They say, you know, you're doing something big. He said, I haven't seen this before. And then, the next day, that when the pandemic hit, yeah, the pandemic hit. And when, you know, we was heading back, I think Faddy caught the cold because we was on the plane grinning here, but he was throwing up and people from the kickers out the plane. I was so nervous. And then, so I called, he said, man, y'all just keep working so I kept on working even during the pandemic. And then, when the pandemic was slowing down, they called me back up to, man, matter of fact, I called you. I said, they sent me this paperwork. I asked, I called everybody in the room. I said, look at the deal, get lawyers, look at what y'all want to do. You know what I'm saying? Everybody like, man, whatever you say, man, you the leader, whatever you say, you know what I'm saying? That's real. So Faddy like, I say, I didn't walk by faith right there. I didn't walk by faith. He said, man, I was in juvenile. What you talking about? I'm from the sign of cash once. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't even look at it. I swear he didn't. I can't blame it. Look, when you ain't got nothing done from nothing, leave nothing, man. So he's He's trusting that you have his best interests at heart. So he know you're going to check it over. Yeah. He signed it and walked out the room and left. Didn't look at it, then nothing. I was like, I'm going to take it home. And let me think about it. Let me read it. That's how I told you. Even New York. And mom in New York. They think they can read all that real. So I had seen Fad paperwork way to the spread smelter to a stump. And then they were like, Hey, what's up with it? They were like, what's up with the little Drake, man? What's up with him? I said he had to get his attorney to look at it and stuff like that. Which I just fabricated. I just know he's our person. He's going to look over it. Hisself? Yeah. You picked him out. He looked over it and then he came back. He had scratch scratch. He had all what he wanted. You know what I'm saying? He already checked it out. He ain't just right here. He ain't like that. I'm good right there. Yeah. And so my sister was like, I think there might be an insult for a person to just give you a deal. A multi-millionaire deal. And you know, you don't have no numbers and you ain't doing it. They just really give you a deal based off what they believe in. Yeah. Because they ain't giving out deals and money like this if you ain't got the numbers, if you ain't got a following, you ain't got this. So they told me, they said, well, she do got a point. I said, what you going to do? He was like, man, whatever you say. I said, man, just sign this stuff. We good. Yeah. I said, God, God. You know what I'm saying? So we signed it and then maybe like a few months later they had this, the university had this big thing in Miami where they, all their artists, new artists that they signed. They had to perform around there ever since then. And I'll be back and forth. Like I talked to a stunt. I mean, I talked to me and slim like that and fat and baby talk. They do their thing. And I'm going to be with on the business side, him and the business. Yeah. Yeah. Let them do what they do in it. So he kind of like grooming me on a lot of this stuff. And so, man, you know, to be able to have somebody like that to, to, because most people be talking about Birdman and all this other stuff. But the niggas that they talking about, they messed out of money and all that millionaire. You know, I'm like, damn, let them mess over E one time. You know what I'm saying? I'll sign it. Get me some paperwork, fat. And I'll show you. I'm a sign it. No, but you know, the thing, you, you blessed even be able to be in those circles at the universal deal and all the stuff that's going on. Cause, you know, music for me, a lot of people that and shout out the idea a lot of people ain't making no money in this music, bro. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people just talking. They ain't moving and with precision and making a whole bunch of money. A lot of people fluffing this up. They love to dance around on Instagram. The girls twerking in the niggas line. You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, you know, to even be able to have something structured and to have something to wear as lucrative is a big deal for me. In this day and time. Yes, sir. Am I right? Yeah. To put you in a position where you can be able to better provide for your family and do some things and generational wealth. Yeah. Yeah. So, you already got screwed for that? You got a film company. Yeah. I got a film. We just, I mean, if you're from Texas, you heard Dirty Third? Dirty Third. No. That's what, that's what, Rick South, DJ Screw. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I just, man, D-Rick partnered up and did, you know, they just did the new DJ Screw move. Yeah. I heard about that. He doing, we came in, like, DJ Screw Knowledge. So, we just redid the second part of that, with third part of that move, you know. So, I started the film company because I know God, he gonna do the rest. Man. You take one step, he'll take more than two really. So, I know, I know there are ways a lot of people lost. So, I'm gonna be there voice to tell people, it's okay. You know, it's not wrong being spiritual and still have a little hood in you. It's nothing. You gotta have balance, man. I wanna ask you something because I notice you, you always seem to be a boss. And you've always seemed like you're trying to help people. You love to help people. Who was the person who helped you when you were younger? Who was that person who was that leader, that boss to you? Can I be honest with you? Yes. Ain't nobody helped me, but God. Even as a child? As a child. I've been through some stuff. I've been rejected. That's the whole purpose of me signing seven kings. I like to go get the people, you see, you can't, you're the only boy. Huh? You're the only boy because I hear you talking about sisters. No, my brother, I got a brother. My brother, he's a Marine. He, you know, he, well, he, he ties the military. He's a Colleen and my sister's a doctor. Okay. But I was the rejected stone. I was the one that didn't do one thing that spoiled building life. You know what I'm saying? I was out there. And so... Yeah, because you talk about an interview that you was paying everybody bills at 10. Yeah, I bought my car at 12. Yeah. How? How? Man, I was a hustler. Man, you're in them streets, man. At 12, carried the one hill. That was in 95, 96. That nigga was selling dope. Yeah. Yeah. He calculated. No, because I know the error. You know what I'm saying? Like, like... I was a connection there. Oh, okay. I believe in... It had to be some drugs involved in the 90s. Yeah, I was a connection there. I was a connection there. But I love the way how you turn everything around to be the person that you are today. Because that's the thing I could never understand I see a lot of these young kids, even artists who are still in the streets doing stuff and I'm like, you have a talent. If you can multitask and really run a business because that's what you're doing. Yeah. Why not turn that business into a legal business and run that as well the same way, but they're like... They take people like Boss Talk. Oh, jeez, they come in and better to give them their vision to say, hey, you can go this route. Man, listen, man, that's exactly what it is. You don't have to exactly what it is. You know, I talk about dope and all that, but I stopped drinking, smoking and everything and 94, 95. But that's the problem with people. You know, people don't understand that you can make it. And so you have to be... Really, you can't tell them you got to show them. I'm living proof, you know what I'm saying? That people can change. You can't make up excuses and say, well, you can't do it. You got to want it too. So it takes some sacrificing. But it's the anointing most of all for me. I believe in God. At the end of the day, I feel like God had a purpose and plan for my life. That's why I sit on this side of the seat now. But even before now, I was always taking the kids and everybody up to Vegas, Cali, everywhere. She know, I was spending our money. She was with me. We've been married for 20 years. I took people everywhere. I took them to Chicago. We went everywhere. We take people everywhere on our own time. We never got nothing really in return. But we got it because it came from the heart. We got it from God. So that's the whole game with me. And that's why I sit next to y'all like I do because I know already if God got you in a leadership role and you got these people lives in your hand, really, God ain't did that. He ain't. He wouldn't let it happen if you weren't ready for it, bro. And for the type of business that you've always been an entrepreneur, so you could have chosen any other career to start a business in. Why the music industry? Because in the music, it's a lot of rejected people that try and tell their story. That's it. Most of them got depression. Most of them went to life because to go into a boot and create something like that, something that right with you right there. So you got to give them direction. If you ever know every artist, they need direction. Because it's counseling. What I look at, it's counseling. They're relieving all the stress, all the anger, all the everything into their music. And so I want to be that person to tell them like, bro, it's okay going on top, but let me tell you this too. No God is the source I'm certified. So when they do that research, if I go in the room with a bunch of killers, I walk in, they're going to get in line like, okay, you know, they know. I love that. The old saying, if you know, you know, you know what I'm saying. So I got a lot, a lot of respect. And I heard you said that you actually went to family with Eve. Yeah. So are y'all still close? No, she was she married a billionaire. I know. So she ain't close to him. Just had a baby. Yeah. So that was that's when she was a, you know, she was popular for Pell back then, you know, like she was on the pole back then. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's before she got to pause on it. They just got one pause right there. Yeah. No, just saying, man, I get it, man, you come up with these people, God got your own paths, man, everybody got their path. They got to go through. But that's a good plug, though, man, it's just an honor and a pleasure, man, for you guys come sit down. I got to ask y'all something though before you go. Top three artists of all time did or like. Any genre. Any genre. Any genre. Any genre. There are ideas right there. L.D., be quiet. Let's go. You know the show. Number one. Number one for me. I don't help. What are you thinking? You got to have a number one. A number one. Oh, man. Come on. You can change it tomorrow, but today I need it. Number one. Man, you know Prince played 27 instruments, man. Number two. Michael Jackson. Yeah, Michael Jackson in the building every time. Number three. Number three. I'm going to say two pop. Two pops. I love you top three. I love the list. Yeah. That was a solid list. That was a solid list. That was a solid, solid list. What's your top three? I was going to say MJ first. Okay. Okay. I was going to say Biggie second. Okay. I didn't have one for the third. You got to get it. Think about it. You got a third. I mean, whew. Sheesh. And you only said Biggie because you New York. Yeah. Where Brooklyn at? God. Come on. You got to get me one. You got to get it. Off the top. Boom. Any genre? Oh, Beyonce. Boom. Oh, my love. Beyonce. That boy, that boy, little Beyonce. Can't be mad at you about that. Man, save man. Just like, if people get a hold of you, if they're trying to, you know, link up with y'all because, you know, they got to work, of course, but if they're trying to do something for God, maybe you never know what this could bring. So how would they get hold of you? Man, basically, social media is Seven Kings, ENT, that's my Instagram. And my website is Seven Kings, spelled out, S-E-V-K-I-N-G. Can anybody reach out to you? Like, if somebody, like an artist out there and they love your movement and they would like to join your movement, they would just reach out to you? I'm always open. I'm gonna pass it before anything. What about you? My Instagram is, I love Tohee, I love T-O-W-H-I-D, and then you can go straight to the Seven Kings Instagram as well. What happened to your old Instagram? Because when I was looking at, I found another Instagram, like, did they take your Instagram or something? I don't, I only went to like three Instagrams, I ain't gonna lie. Why, what happened? They took it? The first one got took, the second one, I don't even know what happened to the second one. You took it yourself? Sometimes, I had to get on them, sometimes I ain't know these kids, they opposed to do some stuff, they felt it real life, but social media is sending people to jail. Let me tell you that, exactly. I done opened studios up for certain people in this city, and you remember, I put budget up, opened it up, I give it to them, got them a booth in there, got them a foot, what, photography studio in there, cap store with my son, all this going on, get up at 12 at night, they pointing the gun at the camera, you see it on Instagram, I give them a call, they know what I'm calling for. Bro, what is y'all doing out here? Man, it just seemed like I ain't know them cats, and they came, and I want them to know I had the gun, whatever, so I just showed that you know, don't do that, bro. If you feel uncomfortable, call somebody, get somebody up there with you, but don't, this is the kind of stuff that happens when you, when God got you in a position where you dealing with people's lives, bro. So you got to be there for these kids, you know what I'm saying? And like I said, I wasn't doing it because I wanted to be no man, I don't know nothing about the, I love music, but I just did it just because you keep people out of trouble when you put them in the right setting and you keep them in the right place. You taking up, taking up time with them. Trying to give them direction, where they won't lead them to, that I call it, that why I wrote the question. Yeah, yeah, that why I wrote is real. Yeah. But I could never understand why people did that anyway, because to me, the most dangerous person is the person who's not doing all of that, who you'll never see them do that, compared to the people who show it and stuff like that. They're really not going to do none anyway. The ones who show it? Yeah. Yeah, you can scare them in a corner. You don't have to do it. We just had to, we just had to. You can scare them in a corner. He'll do it. We had that conversation at the other interview. Like I said, people that's pouring that gun and doing it all the time. When you're getting the big house, you don't have that gun. No. You know, they quiet in there. That little 170 pound person that was around here popping that gun. You know, what you're going to do That's real. Can't do nothing. What you going to do? And you first hit the yaw and you ain't got a tool. You're right. You're right. Man, you got the best spirit, man. You're a very humble brother, man. I thank God for you coming on Boss Talk 101. What a boss is taught. You know what I'm saying? And just, just man, keep doing what you're doing, man. If you're ever in Texas again or if you're, you know, in Dallas, Texas, or if I'm down in Houston because I come down there. I was just down there a few times here lately. I holl at y'all, man. I love everybody. I don't leave nobody to tell them that I love y'all. That's me. They say I'm lying, but I tell them, don't we do it? Don't we do it every time? Ain't nobody said in that seat that we didn't love, man. Because God brought you to us, you know what I'm saying? And at that point, why not? You know what I'm saying? We're here now. You know what I'm saying? Thank you guys for coming on the show, man. Appreciate you for having us. Man, any time, man. Hey, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101 what a boss is taught. Are we out?