 Once again, Alan we're here with Todd. He's fresh off the boat. My dad and parents were fresh off the boat, but Todd's off fresh off the boat. I am. Yeah, he's fresh off the boat off the kiss cruise. Was kiss great? How about just tell us about kiss. Was kiss great? Like me there? They're great. I mean, so, so they, well, let me explain how it worked. So they had, they had two shows. Well, they played on the pool stage. And like not in the makeup. And then they did two shows in the theater. But it was kind of weird, because it was like, we were told we could go in 15 minutes after the show started. And like everybody had their seats. And so we were like kind of standing in the back on the side. Like it was not a good, like we, we couldn't, we didn't sit and like enjoy the show. Cause I guess like for the kiss cruisers, not like us that, you know, we didn't pay to get on the ship. I think these people had like, you could only, I think you could only go to like one of the two shows. Like you couldn't go to both shows as a like seated person. So it was kind of weird. But you know, I mean, you know, it's kiss, they're legendary. Kiss, that's it. Of course. Yeah, yeah. I wasn't going to go on that cruise, but apparently not. We can't go. At least not yet. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, that's all right. All right, guys. This is it. 1991. Alan, can we hear you? Mike, check, Mike, check, Alan, Mike, check. Oh, Alan, we can't hear negative. Negatory. Negatory. See, it's why I did this. Check, check. This is the first time we're going to have audio issues with Alan. Well, I heard a pop. Nope. We're back. There you are. There we go. There we is. Testing. Testing. Mike, check. All right. All right. We've got another controversial list coming at you. We're always glad to have Todd on board for these lists. You're quite the controversial fellow on the internet, buddy. What'd I do? I don't know. Every time you do, he's mad at you. Fuck him. That's a rock and roll spirit. That's it. I like that. I like that. That's the rock and roll spirit. I don't give a flying fuck. All right. Speaking of that, let's get right into number 10. All right. Alan, you're coming in hot, though. You're coming either hot or you're coming in too soft. All right. We'll do our best. Go ahead. Go with Todd's choice number 10. Yes. All right. Here we go. Let me get, let me get it ready here. So this is not Alan's choice. This is not my choice. This is more of a Todd's choice, but you can speak to it. And, and you know what? Let me set this up. This is a band that never really sold millions and millions in albums, albums, but at the same time, over the years, they've they've got that critical acclaim, we'll say, right? They really have that and there are genre defining. So here we go, Todd, I'm putting up right now. You could, it's all yours. The mic is yours. Yeah. So number, number 10 comes in with the band Death. And, you know, they're, they're, they're album human. Look, they, they were like the founders, the godfathers, a death metal. I mean, to not have them, they haven't been on one list. Okay. And they're, they're, they're great. I mean, the technical proficiency of these players, never mind like the vocals, if it's not your thing, that style. But I mean, good grief, the drumming, the guitar playing, it's exceptional. I was doing some reading for the, the kind of stats on this record. And, you know, as, as of 08, they sold over 600,000 copies, which is a lot for an underground kind of genre. Yeah. You know, and they're, it was their best selling record. It ranked number 82 of the 06 Guitar World magazine's list of the greatest 100 guitar album. Yeah. So, you know, whether it's your thing or not your thing, I mean, we're talking about metal. They definitely should be on the list. And I think they're a band that has inspired a lot of people, a lot of musicians, even if you don't like necessarily have to play like that. Just again, there's so much to learn as a guitar player and a drummer from, from this band that it's, it had to be mentioned. Now, are you holding the vinyl of that death album? Where is it? Okay, we can't hear you. It's gonna be a tough one. Can't hear you. Yeah. There. Wait, maybe you got to hold the little knob or something. Hold it. There, okay. There you go. Better? Yeah. Yeah. Just hold it the whole show. So, out of the death albums, this is the highest ranking death album of the top 500. Comes in at number 156. There you go. The top 500. Totally respectable. All right. So, here we go. And Gabriel McPolen, if I'm saying that right, says superb choice, Todd. So, thank you. Good job, Todd. All right. Here we go. Now we're getting into a little cheeky waters. Now is where we're going to start fighting. All right. I got to set the up though. So, I either of these, neither of these were my choice, by the way. And go ahead. Neither were their Allens. Maybe one of them was out. So, this is, I'm going to give you two, two number nines. And I really struggled with this. I really struggled with this. I did. Because I put it on the list. I took it off the list. I put it on the list. I took it off and I go screw it with both of them on. All right. I know, I know people are going to hate me for this, but I got to justify myself. Rationalize. Here it is. Number nine. And I want everybody to pick guns and roses or nirvana as number nine. You are banished from the land. See? See? See? There you go. So, I got to tell you guys, I worked at the record store in 1991. Maybe 1990 I started. In my youth, and let me tell you, the metal fans, the metal fans were coming in hordes. And Alan, you know, I used to work at Outwater, which is all the college kids there, hordes. They just grabbing everything, nirvana, everything guns and roses and, you know, other albums at the time they came out. And a lot of people say, wait, these guys in nirvana, they're not metal. They can't play their instruments properly. They yell a lot. And they're very anti-establishment in terms of lyrics, right? So it's punk. Hold on a sec. But so is venom. They can't play their instruments. Their songs are all anti-established. I don't know. It's the same sound. Not the same sound. It's the only missing as a devil. No. There's no crunch in the guitar. Okay. Hold on a second. You're at a club or you're at a restaurant. No, I'm not. And that song comes on. The whole room explodes. Anti-establishment, horrible playing, and a lot of yelling. And there's melody. It reminds me of venom. You're just missing, you know, Satan, Satan. That's all. Yeah, but metal, metal is what? Prided itself on not sucky playing. Okay. That was punk. That was punk. Punk was we're going to play a bunch of distorted chords. That was venom. That was venom. Venom couldn't, they couldn't play. They couldn't play. And they're considered like the block metal genre defining guys, extreme metal. So it really, yes, yes, I'll go. Hold your, hold your, hold your little thing there. Okay. This really sucks. Tomorrow morning, you're going to the pharmacy and get yourself some headphones. Oh my God. Alan, if you take it out, can you not use your computer? Oh, you did. Okay. What happens if you take the earbuds out? I'm plugging from the computer. Yeah, there you go. Finally, there we go. Right in the middle of this Nirvana debate. So for once, I agree with Todd. So this is another record breaking show because Todd and I actually agree on something. Never understood why they were so popular. Listen to this album where it confirms why I never got into them. Maybe metal with all the hairspray bands, maybe they needed a kick in the ass. And that's when, you know, Nirvana came along and like punk did in the 70s after, you know, ELP released the six hour songs. You know, maybe we needed that. But I call Nirvana the great purge. It was the great purge. It cleansed the metal of all the hairspray, like Alan said, and all the sort of reverb and that sort of corporate. Nirvana was critical to the movement of metal today. Go ahead, Todd. So Tony Harnel addressed this once and I thought he answered it really well. He said, you know, when people say, oh, Nirvana killed, you know, metal, rock. He said that rock killed killed it itself because it was just clone after clone after clone of itself and it was watered down and it just became a joke. And so I have to agree with Tony on that. However, when that record first came out and that first song came out, it smells like Teen Spirit. I hated it. And, you know, as you mature over the years and you can hear music a little differently, I will say I do think that there is some very good song writing. I think the lyrics, I think he writes really good lyrics. But other than like, okay, I mean, I understand your parallels. It's rebellious. It's kind of nasty and dirty and raw and noisy. And isn't that kind of part of the essence of rock or metal, this in-your-face kind of thing? I would agree with that. But the sound, the sound to me, it's not in the heavy metal category at any music store. It's not heavy metal. To me, it's it has some hard rock elements and punk. I think it's got a little bit more punk stuff in there, but that's just a couple songs. I mean, you listen to the other some of the other stuff they have in it. I don't know. It just doesn't and I'm not saying it has to be like, you know, high screams and all that for it to be metal because Ozzy didn't sing like that. And we'll get into that into one of the other bands that you kind of didn't think were terribly metal 30 million albums sold worldwide. So why? It just means something. It's a testament. It means something to the strength of the metal community. And the metal community was that's, you know what, it sparked the metal community to come out with something darker and more things were dying. Things are just dying in the metal community. And you know what? Go ahead. We had to have a response to dangerous toys. And that was Nirvana. But you know, I mean, like, I just think that I think you're too caught up. You're too caught up in caught up in the genre. Like, oh, that's that's grandeur, I killed metal. I think we have to move away from that and listen to those new wave of British heavy metal bands. They weren't too far from Nirvana. They were punky. They took the elements of punk and fast speed metal, you know, then you have to get away from they sold 30 million albums because I don't give a shit. So did Nelly. So it is a little little whatever there's a crisscross, crisscross, crisscross. You know, I mean, I miss the bus. So I mean, just because something sold a lot doesn't mean that that fits into it. All right, let it will everybody decide is Nirvana. Go to the Bible. Oh, go to the Bible. Martin Popov settled this. This is Todd's gonna fall off his chair here. Number 114, 114 out of 500. Be death. He's not happy. Hold on. It was fro. You were frozen. Tell me what it was. 114 ranking 114 out of 500 voted by the fans. They beat death. The most ridiculous. That's the most ridiculous shit I've ever heard. Alan, what's the book called? What's the book called, Alan? The top 500 heavy metal albums of all time. That's that's that. You know what? It's that's it's severely. Burn it. All right. So but okay. So toilet paper. All right. So I put Nirvana, but I also put guns and roses. So let everybody out there. Which band is more metal-ish? Guns and roses. But you know, I heard guns and roses today. They didn't really sound too metal. You know, I mean, guys, in 91, people, this was an event. The releasing of this was an event. People were lined up overnight to purchase this album. It was incredible. But I'm one of those guys that have a mind where all they had to do is make one killer album. If they put all the best songs on both of these onto one album, it would be like the greatest album of all time. Yeah. It's a lot of filler when you had to fill up two albums. But is it? Everybody's everybody's commenting that Nirvana is just not metal. All right. So who's more metal? I agree. Who should we put guns and roses or Nirvana at number nine? Guns and roses, if you had to choose. Yes. There's a lot of songs, a lot of slow tracks, a lot of mid tempo stuff. I mean, it's not all hard rock and metal here. I mean, it's a hard rock album. As a band. Yeah. As a band, G&R is way more heavy than Nirvana. I don't know about that. But how about Axl Rose? You're a singer, right? Do you think Axl Rose is a metal singer? I would think he's a metal singer, though. That's what carries the band. Dude, he's got some screeching high stuff, whether you like the tone or not. I mean, Nirvana, Kurt Cobain, that's not the kind of singer he was. So his vocal, if you're taking like a classic metal vocal, myopic view, Axl Rose's voice is totally metal. Yeah, I agree. I agree with that. That I agree with. I didn't remember, right? There we go. I mean, Civil War, right? You could be mine. Locomotive, live and let die, Coma. I mean, these guys toured with Metallica, right? And the Rocket Queen. Rocket Queen, Paradise City. Guys, when it comes to this list, Nirvana is one bad apple that spoils the whole damn bunch. I don't know about that. Thank you. I was, I was really, I was really, I'm with you now. Wait, wait, wait, let's get, let's get back to the Bible here. Guns and Roses. Do they do? Where are we here? Where are we here? Yeah. User illusion two comes in at number 225. And user illusion one is at number 414 out of 500. Wow, Nirvana. Here's, here's the thing also. Keep this in mind. Yes. This book is a conglomerate of a consensus by people. So depending on where the tests were taken and the fans, because it sold 30 million albums and everybody thinks it's a big, it's, it's, you know, maybe that has some type of sway psychologically on people putting that in there. But I don't give a fuck who it is. Nirvana is just not a metal band, period. I don't care what. It could be in the old, it could be in the Old Testament. It's not true. All I know is this, they purged the weak and they brought in the strong. Good. And, and you know what? For that, I would say they deserve their place on this list. They were anti-establishment. There was depression. And they just made people just go nuts. And if you see them on stage, they're just punk, they're punks, you know? And guns and roses had that punk attitude too, right? Especially Axl Rose. They're punk, you know, that didn't really play guitar solos. Or if they did, they weren't well. Yeah. Okay. So do people think guns and roses should be number nine or Nirvana be number nine? And you guys decide on that one as we move to number eight? So there it is. There's a question. Nirvana or guns and roses? An analog kid says, Todd is amazing. He knows his shit. Nobody says, nobody says Jimmy is amazing. He knows his shit. Oh, you put, you put Nirvana on the list. This here, Jimmy open mind is a great thing, but you can't let your brains fall out. All right, let's go to number eight. All right, here we go. Number eight times a tick in here. I'm going to step back because you're going to get blasted again here. Why overkill horoscope? Dude, that is an amazing album. Oh, sorry. I'm looking at the wrong list. What list are you looking at? Oh, sorry. Horoscope. I was looking at number seven because you threw a curveball. Okay. Okay. Sorry about that. I kept changing the list. Horoscope. This album could even be higher. I mean, it, oh, I think it opens. I don't even have the thing in front of me. I think it's a coma. Yeah. You've got, I mean, I know, I know that I can play. I know that whole record on drums too. I wore the shit out of that record. It is a killer thrash metal record. It's one of my all time favorites. You know, it's interesting about this album is that even though it wasn't a big seller at the time, or even to this day, but it's such a critically acclaimed album, like it's over the years. People have said this is one of their best in their catalog, and they said this is one of the best thrash albums in the past, you know, a few decades. Like Rejoice in the suffering. Is that what we're going to get to here? And brought to you by. Brought to you by John Lattari's new album. We've been waiting all show for this. You know, it's a word from our sponsor. Allen has your has your shirt, like I have his shirt, the one you gave him. It's sitting at the door and Alan calls me, Jimmy, are you home? I go, I'm not home. And then I call him, Alan, are you home? He's not home. We've been trying. Oh, Todd, we lost you. You lost Todd. Todd's froze. Todd's back. Todd, I've been trying to get this shirt to Alan for the past two, three weeks now. Well, two, three months. All right, let's go to the Bible. All right, let's go to the Bible. Horoscope. All right. So overkill. Yes. Three albums made the top 500. Yeah. I had to come in here because I was losing signal. This is the lowest ranked overkill album. Are you guys around? Yeah, here we are. Can you hear us? Hello, Todd. Todd Lattari, you hear us. We're here. We are live with Todd Lattari, our sponsor, Todd Lattari. Sorry. And rejoice. Overkill. Did you see this part? Did you see this part? Okay, good. Overkill is coming in at number 307, in horoscope. It's okay. 307. Still, they haven't beaten Nirvana yet, but that's good news. All right, so here you go. Great album. I mean, Alan, I guess, I don't know if you listen to it. Yeah, I listen to it, sure. And to me, it's probably one of the top 20 thrash albums since thrash started. You know? Great album. It's an amazing record. It's an amazing record. All right, here we go. You guys ready for this? Are we ready for number seven? Now you could stand back. This is Todd's. This is Todd's. I don't know what it is. I'll let you say it. Well, I'll tell you what it is. It's Soundgarden. No, that's not mine. It is yours. That was on somebody's list. Bad Motorfinger. Among us, and then I looked at your list and I said, okay, that's a heavy record. Yeah. It is. Okay, you could speak to it if you want. What are your thoughts on Chris Cornell's voice? The vocals on this record are insane. It's totally, totally metal. Soundgarden, the vocals on that record are metal as hell. Yeah, he can sing, man. He can sing. He was amazing. Look, three million albums sold, came out at the same time Nirvana Never Mind came out, maybe lost a little steam right at the beginning, but picked up over the years, came out at the same time as Pearl Jam's 10. I mean, this is the whole Seattle scene that was happening, right? Yeah. And Chris Cornell, you know, they were no Nirvana. They were like super technical as well, right? And they brought a little more organic back into the music, right? You didn't have that polished hair metal stuff that was very corporate in a sense, but you had more of an organic beats and sounds. Right. And they didn't, I mean, yeah, it is alternative hard rock, but there's a lot of metal there. And they didn't have like all the big stack vocals. That's right. You know, and that added to that kind of more stripped down raw sound. Now, Alan, what are your thoughts on this album? This album, this album had a buzz to it when it came out. That's for sure. And Chris Cornell, I mean, what a singer. I mean, you can't say anything more about him. And again, I think they made some stronger albums, but this one at that time was really groundbreaking. There was, there was a definite buzz happening, much more, I would say, than that, than even Pearl Jam's 10 at the beginning. That was my recollection of the time. So yeah, I could sing, man. The guy could sing. We'll go to Soundgarden. You guys are going to follow up your chair here. Soundgarden. Yes, sir. Number 103, bad motor finger came in ahead of super unknown at 103. Crazy stuff. So does everybody agree with that choice? Does Soundgarden deserve to be in the top metal album category? So I've not heard about this Nirvana thing. I'm assuming because everybody's quiet, Nirvana is not their choice on this list. But I will move ahead. I will move along. Okay, what do we got next? Okay, here we go. Number six. Number six. Do you know which one that is? I know. There we go. I'll tell you right now. Metal church. Number, number six. Yeah, the human factor, metal church. What an album. Killer. I don't even know what to say. I mean, I'm not going to go through the whole track listing or anything, but no, again, again, you know, my cow delivers its classic sounding metal church, not trying to reinvent the wheel. Just in your face, thrash, classic sounding metal church. It's great record. Yeah, I agree with all your points there. Strange enough, Kurt Wanderhoof did not play on this album, even though he wrote, you know, the majority of the tracks he and produced it, I believe, or co-produced it. He did not play because he was kind of tired of that scene at the time. Of course, coming back, again, more social and political issues, right? The 1990s, more of a depressive era, I guess, right? So yeah, human factor, date with poverty, right? In harm's way. Yeah. Agent Green, just phenomenal songs. Alan, I'm not sure if you took a listen to that sucker. I listened to it, Jim. All right, appreciate your feedback. Okay, Metal Church, coming in on the, this is their lowest ranking album of the top 500 guys. Number 491, barely making the top 500. Squeezing in there, squeezing in there. The fact that Nirvana is 130-something in a heavy metal Bible and Metal Church is 491 is just a fucking joke. And I didn't call Alan. I go, Alan, Alan, where's Metal Church at? And where's Nirvana at? You know, putting Nirvana in. This is like strictly... Oh, no, we do this. We do this during the show. It lends an element of surprise. That's right. Yeah, it's interesting when you pull it up and see where it ranks on that thing. I do like to hear where it comes in at. But there's one thing I'm noticing is we go a little bit further in the list there. You can see where the record companies are like, guys, give us something a little bit more commercial. That's what I found when I listened to this Metal Church compared to the previous ones that we reviewed. I didn't get that. I find that Metal Church and Overkill so far as we go through this list, they were the sort of holding onto the traditional metal sound. They're the one still. And there wasn't a lot of bands doing that anymore. We can argue about Nirvana holding that traditional sound. But you know, I mean, Overkill, Thrash, they were not going to stop and start playing the pop songs. That's what I'm trying to say. All right. So here we go. Number five, another incredible album. I have it right here, signed by the band. This was whose pick? I know I put this in here. I put this in too. Symbol of salvation. What an album. Everybody's on this one. Yeah, everybody's. And you know what? Interesting enough, they're doing, they just came out the live version of this and a DVD, I believe, right? This was the first record. This was the first record with Jeff Duncan on guitar after the passing away of their other guitar players. So we've had Jeff on the show years ago. Yes, yes. Yeah, he's a great guy. We became buddies on tour and we still text each other really distasteful memes and funny jokes. All I know is Armored Saints fan and I'm going to shout out to my buddy Marty because he's a huge one. They're some of the most passionate fans you'll ever meet as an Armored Saints fan. And I mean, I like to get Todd's opinion on a lot of these singers. John Bush for you, how would you describe him? Dude, he is one of the, you know, Cornell was, we just talked about Soundguard, super powerful. We, well, before we did a full ground tour with Armored Saint out with us, we did about five or six shows in Europe with them. And I hadn't met John at all in my lifetime yet. And the first show that we played together in the UK, he was warming up in the next dressing room. And it sounded like he was screaming across the, to somebody two blocks away. He has one of the loudest, most powerful full voice chest belt voices I've ever heard. And he has such a cool rasp and distinct. I always loved the sound of his voice. One of my, one of my favorite sounding singers. You know, sweetheart of a guy. So to answer your question, yeah, he's one of the best ever. This record, by the way, has like, kind of like a lot of mid tempo songs, I think. And like a little more funk, like, kind of grooves guitar wrist, or, you know, kind of like a little bit more of that kind of a feel and kind of mid-tempoly, not like real fast, fast stuff, but like driving songs, you know, Rain of Fire is a very heavy song, but it's, it's not a fast song. But yeah, I think it's a great record and I'm stoked that they're on the list. I'm going to throw it out there. Is Rain of Fire, everybody watching, is Rain of Fire the greatest Armored Saint song of all time? Could be. It's a good one. It's a good one. I would say up to this, a big huge Armored Saint fan over the years, I would say this is the most consistent album they've ever had. And they, but lately they've had some pretty consistent albums. But up to this point, right, what is this, their fourth album, like the first three albums are kind of like all over the place a little bit, but this is consistent. It's just like, like maybe they were looking like they're like, when bands are kind of searching for like their sound and then they finally, after a couple of few records, they kind of hone in on like, this is kind of what we sound like. Yeah. Everything core leases right in this album. Because if you listen to Delirious Nomad, it's kind of all over the place, the production's a little over the place, even though I love that album and even Raising Fears a little all over the place. But this one is, is just, you know, it's a consistent, it just sounds consistently strong each track. That's what I'm trying to say. And maybe it is that mid-tempo classic metal sound that and his voice, you know, he got it right, you know, he finally just got it right, you know, his voice is so good. Yeah. I'm, you know, I met Todd, I met Todd, I met Jeff, not Jeff, I met, I didn't meet Jeff, John Bush, the nicest guy you'll ever meet. So gracious. All of them are like, all of them, I mean, Gonzo, Phil, Joey Vera, they're all like, they're just the coolest, most down to earth guys. And they're a kind of band who never sold a lot, but over the years, more, the following just keeps growing, you know. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead, Alan, sorry. The highest ranking armor, St. Alan, according to the Bible, Martin Poppins Bible, coming in at number 247. Wow. Look at that. Halfway there. Halfway there. All right, here we go. Here we go. This one I'm not too keen on. I don't know who's picked this one was. I thought it was yours. Well, no, I just picked it because this was more of a hard rock album at the time or metal album at the time. It caught the world by surprise in a way. Very hard rock. People love this album back then and they love it to this day. I love this record. Skid Row slave to the grind. So we'll call it Todd's pick. I'm not a huge Skid Row fan, but I could appreciate the love for this album and why people love it. This this was in the list that was submitted to me and I agreed with it. Okay. So don't don't fucking pawn all that off on me. No, I'm just saying it's yours. It was your pick. You wouldn't. I think Jimmy threw some stuff out there and we said, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. And we were too busy. Just do what you want and we'll talk about it later. I mean, the vocals are killer. Yeah, there's there's really good songwriting. I mean, even like quicksand Jesus, I love that song in a darkened room slave to the grind. I mean, slave to the grind is a metals. It's a metal. It's a metal song. Yeah, I, you know, it kind of goes again back on that. What we were considering metal in 91, unless you were listening to like obituary and death and like, you know, some like some more darker stuff, you have Venom, but like in that mainstream domain, Skid Row, all the metal people, you know, they listen to Skid Row. I love this record. Guys, a little, a little known fact, this is when they switch from kind of billboard charts where people are negotiating and the manager's like, oh, you take the 17th spot, we'll take the 18th spot and we'll switch next week. And they went to sound scan. And this is one of the first metal albums to go debut at number one when it was released, slave to the grind, according to Sebastian Bach's book. His father did the artwork. And like you said, there's some, you know, he blew his voice out actually on this album, according to his book. And, but man, he's hitting some notes on it. I think only dogs can hear. As a singer again, Todd, I like your impression of this, him in his early days, I mean, for me, I wasn't ever a huge fan, but the buzz about Skid Row was definitely Sebastian Bach and his vocals. Yeah, I mean, he was, you know, he could do the pretty clean stuff. And then when he would get into the high stuff, it was that shrilly, you know, he was also, I don't know how old he was then, but I would say in his mid 20s, maybe I think he was might have been even younger than that. Yeah, you know, but I mean, the end of Quicksand Jesus, he hits, you know, he hits some really high stuff. It wasn't as high as the Crimson Glory stuff, you know, but again, powerful, powerful high notes, powerful high notes, very powerful. But again, if you take like a note, like Dio sang much higher than people probably realized because he had a very robust, full sound, right? But if you took a vocalist like Tony Harnel or Michael Sweet, and they hit the same note, I think it would be perceived as a higher note, because it doesn't have all quite that bass around it. And that just makes for a very piercing, you know, that, like it's got teeth, you know, those notes. And so, I mean, he was definitely like revered as, you know, one of the top singers out there for sure. And this record shows a lot of control in the vocals and stuff like that. But I mean, the rest of the band too, though, I mean, they all wrote, they wrote great songs. I mean, the voice is one thing, but you have to have good songs. And those guys, you know, Sabo and Rachel and, you know, Scotty, they all wrote really great songs. And that record, you know, they got lightning in a bottle with that one. From Peter Borough, Canada, Sebastian Bach. Okay, now that we talked about his voice, what about his attitude? Okay, we won't go there. We won't go there. They're still arguing about who wrote what all these years later, like, you know, that scream, right? But you know what, melody is considered songwriting. So if somebody comes up with a grind, go back to the Bible here, if you permit me, came in higher than the first album, the debut, coming in at number 113, 113, very, very high slave of the grind. I'm surprised it didn't even go higher than that. But you know, Jimmy, when you're when you song write, and you're doing publishing splits. So for people that don't know, I mean, every band can do it how they want to do it. But the really kind of the way that it's done is you have, you know, you write, you write a piece of music, you write a song, and you give it, you own 100% of that right now. Then you go, hey, Todd, you need to come up with some lyrics and melodies. Okay, then I come up with lyrics and melodies. So now it's 5050. So when you're when you're documenting and you're figuring out publishing splits as writers of a song, you have the lyric, the music on one side, and the lyrics and melodies on the other side. And that's just how it works. So melody, absolutely, is a crucial part of the song, especially if there's vocals. But even if there's not vocals, you still have instrumental pieces that are total melody. They're just voicings are just. But I mean, like if you come up with a drum beat. That's now that, right? A bass lick. The thing is, is like, let's say that you come up with I come up with a drum beat. And it's just, you know, okay, perfect example. Come on, feel the noise. That's that's that simple beat. Anybody could do it. Is that really like writing the song? No, but then you come up and you go, uh, you get the idea. Now it's like, I could say, well, I didn't write all that music that everyone hears, but my beat inspired you to create the riff. So then you and I together, or like, right, the immigrant song, let's say there was no guitar riff, but I gave you that beat. And that inspired you to riff off of my percussive parts. You and I would have to agree, hey, we kind of wrote that together. You know, even though the drums, it's a musical instrument, but when it comes to like song, if you took the drums away, you still have the song with the guitar. If you take the guitar away, they're just, it's just a drum beat at that point. That's right. It doesn't have the same musicality weight in my opinion. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's interesting because a lot of us, you know, Ronnie James deal at the back of his albums, you know, music and melody, you know, and, and, you know, sorry, lyrics and melody written by Ronnie James deal, because he wants to claim that melody, which is a specific songwriting credit, right? Sure. It's, you know, anyways, yeah. All right. Well, it's part, it's, that's kind of for people to know, but I mean, like, oh, who wrote the lyrics on that? Well, Ronnie Dio wrote the lyrics to that whereas like Rush, you know, Neil wrote most, like, if not all, I know he wrote a lot of those lyrics. Most people just kind of by default think, oh, the singer wrote the lyrics, but there's a lot of bands where that doesn't happen. But when it comes time to like figuring out the credit for the songwriting music on one side, lyrics and melody on the other. Now, so it's 50 50 me and you. Okay. Now, Jimmy comes in as the bass player. I mean, Alan comes in. Oh, I was slapping the base. Alan comes in and he goes, hey, you know, I got a really cool melody for this chorus. And you go, okay, you know, how does it go? And then you sing, you know, oh, oh, tears are falling. That's the major hook of that song. That's better than my chorus. So now my percentage of 50%, yours stays the same. Mine, I have to start compromising and shaving some of my percentage off ago. Okay, well, I wrote three verses and they're all different lyrics. You wrote, you wrote a chorus with tears. Oh, oh, tears are falling. Oh, oh, tears are falling. You wrote tears are falling. But that chorus happens five times in the song. And it's a major hook. How do you start agreeing? And that's why it can get really weird. When you're working with band members and you go, dude, I wrote literally three verses and all these lyrics. And then you wrote tears are falling with a with a hooky melody that covers a majority of the song. Now do you think you should get half of my 50%. It gets kind of weird and it's hard. It's hard to figure that out. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so it's just to give you guys in the listeners a little bit of how that works. About the infighting and why bands break up. Yeah, it's what it is, right? Yeah. I mean, how do you guys like my shirt? Do you like it? Oh, that's a cool shirt. Is that a cool shirt? Now, the other thing you can do, the other thing in closing to this and we'll move on. Yeah. The other thing you can do guys is just say, we're all working on this together. And there's third, there's three, it's a three piece band. It's 33 and a third down the board, no matter who writes what we're all in this together. And then there's no, there's no BS. Yeah, that was what Van Halen did and Black Sabbath did in the early days, right? It was just split it all up and early days till they figured out how much money there was. All right, Ghost in the Machine is not metal from Gary. So this was mine. I'm getting warm now. He's killing me, Todd. I know. This was recent. Alan's shirt is a great shirt. Alan, introduce mine and your pick. All right, here we go. I mean, look, I guess it was a slow year 91 because King Diamond didn't release anything. So Jimmy had nothing to put on the list. But anytime Fates Warning releases an album, it should be on a list as far as I'm concerned. You know, Perilos, is it my favorite Fates Warning album? No. This is a flagrant example where I think the record company is really turning the screws and just give us something that we can play on the radio. And hence, eye to eye. But again, Ray Alder, second album with the band, great singer, and everything that Fates Warning does as far as I'm concerned is golden. So that's my take on it, Todd. Todd, this is one of the great, I mean, this is not really metal. Dude. It's not metal. It's like Prague Rock, Prague Rock, Prague Rock, Prague Rock. You had you had Rush on this list. If you think, look, Roll the Bones came out this year, but I was kind of too light to put it on. Yeah, I love Rush, but Parallels is a phenomenal Fates Warning album. They are a progressive metal band. Really? Dude, no exit, awake in the Guardian. It ain't no teen spirit. That's all I'm going to say. You know, go ahead. Thank God. He's killing me. I don't know what he's on tonight. Dude, the fact that you don't think this is a record. I had a lot of kick cats before I got on. Go ahead. This is the musicianship on this record, the songwriting, there's hooks for days. There's hooks for days. Todd, I want to get your impression. I've always been amazed with every drummer that Fates Warning has had. And I mean, Mark Zander's on this one. Killer. Yeah, he's amazing. Yeah, and he played traditional grip, you know, like this. And when you listen to Parallels, then he goes, I mean, all this odd time, high hat work, like Dave Matthews. I mean, like a broford. I mean, just amazing drumming on this record. Jim's guitar work is killer. The vocals are smooth. They're melodic. That's a record I wish. I wish Queens right wrote that record all day long. I mean, it's Parallels is one of my all-time favorites. Yeah, is it is like metal in the gig, gig, gig? No, it's not. But, you know, neither is, you know, neither was Empire from Queens right. Neither was, you know, so yeah, this, this, the real metal fans out there that that no Fates Warning know that this record, if for 91, belongs on the list. I think this is one of the only ones that Jim owns from Fates Warning, actually. Have you ever heard like no exit, dude? Yeah, look, look, guys, I have this. I don't have it. You think I don't know my stuff? Do you have no exit? No, I don't. No, I actually probably do. But I got this guy. I got the sucker right here. I think I bought it when Alan, we went, we were at HIV, I think, right? What's the picture? I'll be go, Jimmy, buy this, you buy this. I think that's, yeah, that's, I've got every other one. Jimmy, Jimmy, you know what, listen to Jimmy. What's the Alan, what's the song that goes? Listen to the high singing on that song. I mean, if you're looking for more of that, like kind of metal delivery. I think the whole album's great. Don't get me wrong. I just don't think it's a real metal album. That's all. In what sense? Okay, well, we're gonna go to the Bible, Jim. We'll go to the Bible. Fates Warning. Dude, you had Nirvana on the list. Get, come on. Yeah, punch, punch. This is their third highest. There's only three albums from Fates Warning that made the top 500. This is the lowest ranked one coming at a number. Todd, you're going to fall off your chair coming in at 476. Ouch. That's last for me, dude. It is. I don't think the people that were surveyed really know what they're talking about. Wow. Well, it, you know, it did reach number 20 on the billboard. Just for the record, just for everyone else to know, I got to clear my name here. Okay. The number, let me, let me look at my screen. Oh, now, he's just throwing us all under the bus. Hold on a second. There's not mine. There's not mine. There's not mine. There's not mine. Hold on. Okay. So, so, so number two, number two, we're on number two yet. We're still number three. Don't go there. I know, I know. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna reveal. I won't reveal. Actually, I'll, I'll say what I'm going to say after you reveal it and where I had it on the list because number two, I had as number 10. Yeah, you know, I could see that. I could see that too. I mean, I'm not gonna argue that. Are we done with Faith's Warning? Are we done with Faith's Warning, Alan? Do you have anything to say? Sure. Look, I don't hate the album. I like it. I own it. I own this and I listen to it. I just don't think it's one of their metal albums. I think it's considered a huge Prog Rock fan that I am, yes, and Genesis and Marillion. I think it fits more in that category than it does in the Queens Right category, you know, of Prog, right? And you're part of a Prog band too. Yeah, but Faith's Warning was way more progressive than Queens Right as far as like the weird time signatures and that type of drumming. That type of drumming was very different from Scott's. All right, so now we can move on to the next one. Here we go. And by the way, Michael says Jimmy is right. Sleep betrays me. Jimmy is right. See? I didn't even want number two on the list. That's why I made it last. Okay, let me get the screenshot ready here. Alan, I'm gonna let you start with this one here. You ready? Was this on your list, Alan? This one of yours? No. This is all you. We had to fill out 10, so I kind of like said. Todd, sing us into this with Mama I'm Coming Home. Sing us into it. I don't even want to do that. I'm looking for a miracle, man. I don't even know what was on this record. Hey, it was a little bit of a rebirth for Ozzy. I have to sing us into it. Mama, I'm coming home. Okay. Road to nowhere. You know, there's four big hits off of this. It was a rebirth, kind of a rebirth for Ozzy. It was really a huge album for him. Bob Dazeley played on the album. Mike Einis was in all the videos, but it was actually Bob Dazeley that played on it. And, you know, Bob fooled me once, fooled me twice, and screwed me a third time, Dazeley. But, you know, it's a good album. You know, it was popular at the time. What can I say? Look, this is why I put on the list. I'm not, I only like three Ozzy Osbourne albums. I only like three Ozzy albums, the first three. That's it. But it is a metal album. I listened to the whole thing the other day, and it is a metal album. And not only was it a metal album, the fans really loved it. And Zach is probably one of his best albums, even though I'm not really a big fan of Zach Wilde. It is one of it. Listen to what's called No More Tears. Just listen to that, that downtuned guitar, which he probably layers like 30 times. It's just incredible guitar work, right? I don't know. There's some filler. There's some filler for sure. There's something Mr. Tinkerland, Tinker Train, or whatever it's called. I don't want to change the world. I like Mama I'm Coming Home. I think makes me think of my mama. And let me his book, he gets a phone call from Jared. We need some lyrics. He writes about seven sets of lyrics. They choose four. He says he made more money off of this album than in 15 years with Motorhead. Listen, it is a metal album. Let's just face the facts. It is a metal album. And when you look at all the other albums that are on this list, it's probably the most metal next to Overkill and Armored Saint. I don't know. And Death. And Death. And Death. Yes. So yeah, it did so well. What did you just say? And Death. What? It's more metal than Death. He said it's the most sounding metal album. He goes next to something that I said, yeah, next to... Armored Saint. I mean, Death is a metal sounding album. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, we can argue Nirvana and Guns N' Roses All Day. We can argue Sound Garden All Day. But at the end of the day, Ozzy really has got a metal album. It's a, you know, it's a classic metal. I would consider it, I would consider it like just melodic hard rock. Oh my God. What? Yeah. This is a metal album. You see, the term metal is evolved now. Yeah. I think No Rest for the Wicked was a much more metal album than this one. This, this was Ozzy's most mature album to date. Right. It's because of the balance. It's the balance. And it was, look, I'm not denying, it was a massive record. I liked the song No More Tears. I thought it was killer. You know, he's got the squeal going on the guitar and, you know, it was like this, it was a big, big thing. But I don't know, man, it's a whole record. Again, it's just how we're, it's, it's how we're compartmentalizing. You know, maybe I need to open my mind a little more. Todd, Todd, we have to acknowledge somebody here. Karen Troupi is saying at least you could have acknowledged my Super Chat. I'm Queens Rite fan for 40 years. So please acknowledge her. Where is it? It's there. Karen Troupi. Oh, at least you could have acknowledged my Super Chat. I'm a Queens Rite fan for 40 years. Okay. Hi, Karen. Sorry. I, my, it's, I have the thing on my phone to read the comments and I'm looking at the computer talking to the guys. Yes. So we are acknowledging you. Acknowledging you. Thank you so much for supporting Queens Rite and we think that's awesome. That's right. Number 144 out of the top 500 No More Tears coming in. Pinch harmonics. That is the word that we're looking for. Pinch harmonics. That's it. That's right. Okay. Here we go. Oh, and by the way. Yes. Are we, are you going to do honorable mentions or can I say what my, I want to say what my number two was. Okay. Give us your number two and we'll have like two number twos. Like we had two number. My number two was sabotage streets. Okay. All right. Speak to that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, the record, there you go. I spoke to it. There you go. It's the fucking killer record. The music speeds are tonight. He grins again. I mean, there's, there's so Jesus saves even though he really doesn't put the songs called that and it just sounds amazing. All right. There you go. All right. There you slip it in. That's what Alan's good at. Slipping it in. That's what Jesus is. He's good. He's good. Slipping it in. He's good. Alan always says, oh, number six is this. And by the way, number six is also this. He always slips it in. He's a sneaky guy. He can't be involved in your shenanigans. Hey, Alan, Alan, see if sabotage streets is enough in the boss. Okay. Okay. Just for Todd Latori, this is, we're going to do that sabotage. That starts with an M. You were right. Todd Latori. He knows. Wait a minute. What's the name of the title of the album? Streets. Did not make it. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven sabotage albums made it, but Streets is not there. I have that on, by the way. Oh, sorry. Streets. Sorry. I missed it. You are correct. It's the second highest charting album from sabotage behind Hall of the Mountain King and it's coming in at number two, two, seven. Whoa. Look at that. Look Todd Latori all over it. AKS 23 says, well, I like it too, Jimmy, in my top three Ozzy albums. So someone is, again, it's not my favorite Ozzy album. I just recognize it for what it is in the world of hard rock and metal. You know, I understand that people love this album. No, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, maybe it's not my favorite album and I do have it here somewhere, but oh, here it is. Here's my Ozzy album. A word from our sponsor. That's why I'm showing it like this. You know, okay, here we go. Is everybody ready for this? Number one? Okay. Hold on. Before you do that. Before? Yeah. So number one, let me look at my screenshot. Number one, I had listed at one, two, three, four, number five. How about this, Alan? You tell us where it is on the book, but don't tell us what the album is. Where is it in Martin Poppins? Number 27 out of 500, dude. What's number one? Master of Puppets? Yeah. Yeah. Master. And then number two is what? Number the Beast? Yeah. Number one is Master and number two is Number of the Beast. Yeah. And three is Rain and Blood Slayer. Hey. All right. Yeah. All right. So on that note, is everybody ready for number one? Okay, let's see if everybody can guess number one. I'm a showman. I'm a showman. I got some trivia too. I'm going to throw out to everybody. Number one. Number one, everybody. Let's go. Number one. What do you think number one is? We've named all these albums. What do you think number one is? What could it be? What could it be? What could it be? It's not Number the Beast? Nope. What's number one? 1991. What is the top album? And this list, by the way, is the list. Our list is the list you need to go by. It's the standard. It's the bar. So when you need to look up top 10 albums of 1991, you come watch the show. This is the list. So no one's answering. So we will say entombed left-hand path. Okay. Sepeltura. Sepeltura. Nope. While we're waiting for your answers, my honorable mention, Motorhead, 1916. There's a lot of very different stuff that Motorhead did on that album, including the title track I think they're going to Brazil's on there. It's just a real treat. They got some real rock and roll field, filthy animals on drums. And that's my little hidden gem or my could have made it. So the winner is Martin Florio. Here we go. Martin Florio. And here we go. And here it is. You guys ready? Helen breaks the silence. So I'll throw out a trivia question. So it gives people time to respond. What solo album was Bob Rock supposed to do that he told his friend, no, I can't do your album. I have to do Metallica. That's the question. Please form it in a question. Yeah, is it is it is the person's solo album a singer, a guitar player? He's a guitar player that sings. Guitar player 91. When did Stevie Ray Vaughn die? 89. Okay. I can't see more than Stevie Ray Vaughn. 91. That was Steve Ray Vaughn. It was? No. No. Okay. I'm trying to think of a of a of a big guitar. I don't know. So this this album was a wall of sound. I mean, this is one of those albums. Springsteen? No. This was an album that you didn't have to go out and purchase. You heard it everywhere. Yeah. I mean, it was just I never purchased it. You don't need to. I didn't want to be tiny Tim, tiny Tim. Someone's saying tiny Tim is tiny Tim. What genre it was the solo artist. Yeah. Now that's really bothering me. Well, you know, Sting? He was lumped into the metal. Okay. Now, now we're really mad. The album, I would not say it's a metal album, but he's a guitarist from a famous band that released a solo album that Bob Rock was asked to produce. He went on a trip with his family, Bob Rock. And while he was on a trip, he was in the desert driving towards Vegas. Here's an old Indian looking guy wearing a Metallica shirt. And when they stopped for drinks and fill up for, they went to the convenience store and Metallica was playing on the radio. So he's like, I got to do this Metallica album. So he turned his good friend down and said, sorry, I got to do the Metallica. Well, he's Canadian, Bob Rock. We can narrow it down. Brian Adams. Brian Adams. No, Brian Adams. Eric. No, not Eric Clapton. This is really bothering me now. Richie Sambora. No, it's not. No way. It was Richie Sambora. Somebody Bobby Lucas said Richie Sambora. Oh, there's Bobby Lucas. You're the man. That's it. You get a you get a pat on the back. Well, congrats. The person that Bob Rock made the good call. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So Metallica. All right. The black album. So anybody wants to talk about that? Like you said, Alan, this you didn't need to buy this album. You can just turn on the radio and listen to it. So many hits off this record. Enter Sandman, Sad But True, The Unforgiven, Wherever I Roam, Nothing Else Matters. And then you had like the great songs like My Friend of Misery and Holier Than Down. I was rereading it the other day and he's like, Lars came in to listen to what he was working on and he played it a little bit next thing I know here and now I ran me down to rest. I put my soul and he's just that was actually what I was playing them on my song. He's taking credit for that section. Yeah. Yeah. 16 million albums sold, if anything, that's probably just in the U.S. worldwide. It's just one of the biggest albums. I mean, that's why they're so big today. That's why they could crank out such terrible albums today. And that record, yeah, that record took them to a whole new level. Yeah. I mean, you know, when I was listening to Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets or, you know, kill them all maybe or whatever. And people were like, oh, you know, in high school kind of like ragging on me for listening to that. Then Enter Sandman comes out and they're all singing it. And I was like, this is the same band that you were criticizing me for listening to when they weren't like the popular flavor. I mean, everybody liked it. Everybody liked that song and that, you know, the Unforgiven and dude, I mean, a lot of hits on this record. And you know what? Amazing songs on this record, just flat out great songwriting. Is it my favorite? No. Do I really respect the album and what they put together? To me, it's like, it's like their empire, but they have their operation, mine crime. Yeah, sure. Well, like Empire was like a totally different kind of sound, I think. You mean like a more accessible, you're saying, like more way more commercial? Yeah, like very palatable. Like, you know, but like if you liked Queen's Rite, you would give that record a listen because you knew the band from the early works, same thing with Metallica. And then that record to me was just like, God damn, they had so many hits. I wish I earned what they pay in taxes. It seems like the over kills and the metal churches of the world were just always trying to catch up to Metallica and then Metallica took a left turn and said, okay, we're not doing that anymore. You know what's interesting to me is like, I think like there's some bands that like never deviated from like their style and kind of their thing. Like Iron Maiden, right? Iron Maiden. I mean, they really, they really like a band as big as Metallica that can play stadiums is Iron Maiden. And they never had ever had commercial success. Like, yeah, none of that. That's it. Which is really, when I think about that, I mean, it's really mind blowing to think here's a band that had no commercial, none of that stuff. And you look at how big they are now and it's just unbelievable. You know, they never, they never really changed from there. But you know, I don't consider Metallica like selling out when they did that record. I think how many of the same records do you really want us make? You got to try different stuff to like enjoy creating music. You don't want to paint the same picture every time. You want to do something different. And you know what? Good for them, man. Damn, they nailed it. They hit a monster home run with that record. I always wondered, you know, like if that album came out today, would would it even have that much? Can you hear me now? Hello? Don's frozen. He's really drinking. He's really thirsty. Really lost you. Well, we could see you but you're frozen. I think we can hear you. We can't see you're frozen. You're frozen, but it's a nice, it's a nice motorcycle. Yeah. And the night. You're still working on the motorcycle. Dude, I totally lost everything you said. I didn't hear a single word of it. I hope you enjoyed your little drink there. Jim was wondering if this album came out today. Yes. Would it have the same success? Like they come on with this album with these songs in today's environment without the big back. I think so. I think a great song is a great song and I think it would still kick ass. Would it even get on the radio? Would it even get on the radio? You know? You know what I'm saying? Well, okay. When did the whole Napster thing start? When did that start? I think 94 around 93, 94. That's when they started getting out. I killed the business, dude. It ruined artists. Let me ask you this. Since we're talking about artists, why, like, forget about satellite radio, traditional radio that we all have. Why do they not play the new Queen's Raid album? Why? What is the holdup? Why do I turn it on? I listen to this music. I don't want to hear. I can't even, look, they don't even play our stuff on on serious. Okay. I think, I don't know, man. I think it's like it's up to the program directors and you're either, it's a money thing and you're just paying them a lot of money for airplay or you got to be in that circle. You would think that, I mean, even with Journey, okay, like they just play the old stuff. They just, oh, Stone Temple Pilots. They just play the old everybody. It's just always this constant old stuff. So I don't even listen to that shit anymore on the radio because it irritates me. It's like, why won't you play? You guys had the ability to play new stuff from bands that have been around forever, but for some reason they just want to stick to the stuff that was popular then. It's like, yeah, but new stuff could be popular now. If you would fucking play it and they don't, they might play it like when we drop a record, when we put a record out, they might play it something for like a couple of weeks. And some people have said in like some of the Midwest, like, oh, I heard Queens, you know, a new Queens right on my radio station. I go FM radio, like in your car radio or you talking serious radio. And they said, no, I heard something on FM radio. I'm like, well, that's just a really cool person at the radio station or the program director that's like given us some love. But you're just not going to hear. I remember, and Alan could remember this too, at least in Montreal. You turn on the radio at, I don't know, two o'clock, three o'clock in the afternoon, the drive time and you hear run to the hills. Yeah. Right? Like, and they repeated it over and over again. And they repeated it and repeated it to the point where you went out and you bought it. Right? Yeah, they could have a lot of lot more listenership. But the thing is people are like, I don't want to listen to this anymore. You know, that was 30 years ago. And I'll listen to my own custom playlist on one of these streaming sites or whatever, which I don't even listen to. And then if you put on some of the serious channels and I'm not going to mention names, but you know, it's literally like the same playlist of new shit. It's like new stuff. They'll play brand new slipknot. They'll play brand new, you know, a variety of bands, you know, and then just the really old school stuff. And it's like, yeah, but you know, and you know, it's serious to me is not serious because it's not like the old fashioned radio. It was radio was local, right? Right. And it had in a 15 minute time slot, it had like 80,000 or let's say 60,000 people listening at once. Serious is like, it's like spreading butter on bread. It just it's everywhere and there's no like, you know, there's no group or a chunk of people listening to it at one time. Therefore, they can't move. Like Montreal, you play a song as an example. 40,000 people hear it. 20,000 people run to the store. Yeah. But when you spread it out across the United States or North America, where are you going to go? You're my one person buys it on Amazon, another guy buys it here. And it's not enough to keep the thing going. Well, and that's just it. I mean, back then, you can remember when it was like at your local store when it became a new feature where you could kind of pre listen to the music before you bought it. And it was like, okay, you get a little snippet or whatever, you know, a minute or two. But now anybody can go on and listen to a record for free on YouTube. They don't have to buy it. And they're not going to, the diehards that want to support the artist will will purchase it. But for just a casual listener, they're not going to do it. Now you might use that as a little sample like, oh, I'm going to run through the track listing and okay, that's badass. I want to buy the actual copy and let's do it in my car or whatever. But it's a whole different different world out there now. All right. So that's why everybody's that's why everybody's you have to tour. You have to tour to make a living unless you're you have like crazy publishing from like the good old days. And 99% of every metal band out there doesn't have that. Yeah. What about and this is my last question. In the United States, when your song is played on the radio and I'm talking about traditional radio, terrestrial radio, do you get paid every time it's played? Yep. Okay. But you but you have to pay it's big money to get like say Canada you do too. So six weeks in rotation, you know, in like maybe certain markets or certain regions. So you have to pay them and then they pay you back. Is that what you're saying? You have to pay them tens of thousands of dollars. It's a it's crazy money. No, I'm driving in my car and journey is on the radio. Right. You're going to get you're going to get you're going to get a cut like 20 cents or whatever you're going to get a little something but it's going to be split up also, you know, with the songwriters and then you have or you have performance royalties for performing on the song, you know, but it's, you know, for what you have to spend to get the airplay, you're hoping that that translates into record sales and people come into your concerts and then buying t-shirts. It's a, you know, when I did the first record with the band, Jimbo James James Barton, he said to me, your CD is a business card. That's it to get him to come out to see you live. That's it. Lips said he's in the is in the textiles business. He just sells t-shirts. Yeah, see, just like his father did back in the day. It was in the textile business. Yeah, there you go guys. There's 1991 or top 10 other controversial picks like always. Alan, what do you have? Do you have any any any special mentions there you want to say or that we leave out, Alan? I said it over you. All right, I don't know. A little sleepy. Maybe some more chocolate. Always a pleasure. Here's your chat. What's happening in Todd's world right now? You got anything you want to promote there? Um, like we're going to be doing our final, I think our final. You guys think I'm lying. This is what I had right before. Kit Kat. Carmel. We're going to be doing some more writing to finalize the songs. And then I think we're going to hit record in January. He's frozen. He's freezing. It's cold in Florida. It's cold. Okay, now I can hear you. Yeah. So yeah, we're just, yeah, we're going to hopefully press record in January. That's the plan. And we have some other really, really good news. It's going to be coming out soon. And yeah, it's all good. Good stuff. Good. Oh yeah. Yeah, you're you're going to you're going to like this. I'm going to guess here. Queen's right cruise. Nope. Nope. All right. I can't say a word beach, beach tour in the Bahamas with Queens, right? No, I think a Queens right cruise of like Empire of the seas. Empire. Okay, so it's your own brand of tuna fish. That's Empire of the seas. Yes. I got it. I love tuna. You're a tuna man. You're a tuna man. Okay. I don't like salmon. Don't don't give me try to give me trout, but tuna. I like tuna. I like tuna also. There you go. I'm more of a salmon guy. My mother says my mother. This is amazing. This is one of our best shows ever. Todd and I agreed on two things. Dude, let's get a third one. We can do it. Salmon. That's my mother pronounce it. Salmon. Salmon. Because a lot of people say that. All right. All right. My wife says salmon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a great thank you. All right guys. We're going to get started on the list for 92 now. All right, Al and Jimmy can change it five times.