 This is going to be a fascinating session when we look at the closing price at the end of the day. Why? Because when you're looking at, how can we put it? It's an aberrational thing. In other words, what happened with NVIDIA, if you've got one product that is just dominating a market, look, here's NVIDIA has a spiral to the upside, all-time high. It was more entry-evening, 502.66 is the price now, but it was trading up in the five. It didn't break our short, we are still short SMHs. I thought we'd be stopped out. It was within pennies, but we didn't get stopped out from our SMHs right here. Look at this. 161.17 on the July 31st was the all-time high. We were fortunate enough to short before the opening two days later on the second, and we also had three times short positions. A whole bunch of things just worked out really well, took really nice profits in all these different positions, but we took something off. The SMHs would be kept, the core position, and I said, let's just see what happens. And so far, the days young, anything can happen. It held, the stop held, but when you've got, look here, this is NVIDIA, right? Superb, superb, superb action here, NVIDIA, look at that, superb action. It is the leader in the field. There's no question about it. I mean, now there isn't even a room for an eyelash worth of negativity because everything is set for perfection. That's fine. They've got, they're really the dominant force there, but look, advanced micro devices has a big spike up. That was a lousy chart from the peak F in the Chabuay methodology back in 20, early this year, back in June. And then it goes at 132.83, peak F in the daily chart, and it makes a dreaded H, and it takes it out. Look at, Marvell comes out with earnings today. Look at this chart. This is an outstanding company. It makes a high of 93.85 back in December 2021, plummets down to the myth cities, has a beautiful spike up to the 66 area and then fails. And actually had it in June, beginning of June, it pops up to 60, was that 7, 67? Let me just check this out. I think it was around about 67. 67.99. Ah, I remember now looking at it and say, ah, you missed a round number by a penny. 67.99, right? And it comes down, makes the dreaded H pattern quite successful because it went under it, but closed above. The lowercase H goes to a lowcase M, talking about all these different patterns last night. And then what happens? It fails at a double top. 67 was the previous high. This high is at 66.81. We've seen these double tops, and then it plunges and takes out the left side low, and then it has a big strong balance today based on Nvidia announced down at $1.21. I mean, I can just go on and on and on Intel, holding much better than the others. They've got a different kind of product lineup for the first time. 33.64 down 35 would weigh off the most recent high in the 37s. It went to 32 down to 33. I mean, I could just MU. Oh, and don't forget, all the notation you see every single letter that you ever see is me typing in in 4,000s of charts, right? I just do that. It's just real simple. ABCDFG, we're always looking for at least a peak D in a bi-mode. It can go to EFG. It goes to E gaps up at MU and the high in the 74 area just from a couple of months ago. Now it's down at 64.94. So whatever they say this afternoon, it's going to be really important. Why? Because even the next week, if it takes out 64, the general can't eat without the troops, and how we've got this rotation with the troops, oh, we're going to catch up to the general, then just, okay, guys, I'm leading, you can take a rest. Then they say, oh, we're going to leave, and you can take a rest. That's the way it is. Oh, and look at this beautiful Chathamay falling exformation right here in what chart am I looking at right? MU, a micron. Look at this, like that. Okay, that's the Chathamay falling exformation. I went through some of these last night in quite detail. So last night for my webinar, it was an educational webinar in the sense that I did get to some of the sectors like I wanted, not as many as I wished, but I did very thoroughly all these different patterns. There are all so many other things in the Chathamay methodology that I do over the weekend overview that I do for subscribers every weekend, maybe 45 minutes or an hour or more. I do an overview of what we're looking at and why we're looking at it. Now, within that context, let me just show you something very interesting. I'm going to go through all the different indexes. So gold is down just a little bit down to it is, it's a really nice turnaround. And what I've been talking about for about a year, maybe a year and a half, I've been saying, think of all these. Think of the patterns that I always look at, including bonds, I call bondy crude oil, I call crudy dollar, I call Dolly gold, I call Goldy and Vicks, I call Vixie. So bondy, crudy, Dolly, Goldy and Vixie, they don't have the same relationships as they used to used to have. Bonds have gone dramatically lower and years have gone dramatically higher. Technically, it should be helping the bank stocks, but they involved in other things they're not doing well at all. So each one of these, even within sectors, you've got this bifurcation, you've got this separation of what was normal, you'd expect gold to go up and dollar to go down. Well, look at this, the dollar is doing very nicely. It's not great. It's gone from the 99s to 100s, I should mention we are long. Since 2018, we're taking little bits off the UUP, which is the position that we have. But the dollar is actually holding well. And yet gold is not breaking down. Gold, if the dollar's done this game from 99 to 103, it's called 104. Normally, that kind of a move in a currency would set off the alternative to the mirror image. And you'd see gold, well, if you look at the chart, yeah, it does look pretty sharp. But actually gold is holding pretty darn well. And if you look at the weekly monthly chart, I drew this in a long time ago, about a year ago, I said, let's just consider that this whole midpoint right here between about 1890 and 2020, that's kind of the majority of the price movement in gold has been there for a very long time, going back to 2020, in fact, the summer of 2020. So what do you think about that? It's actually quite nice, but wait a minute. Gold is one thing. Silver, on the other hand, look at that. It's a much better chart formation. I'll be back in a moment. $1.49, SEBs have three, Basel Chapman Tiger technicians hour. 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I just realized I had this chart up all the time. I was going to discuss it in great detail. And then I just got carried away looking at all those semiconductor stocks. This is the 10-minute E-mini. And when it did this peak D right here, remember the fourth highest peak is peak D in Chapman Way methodology. And that's where anything can happen. It can continue. It can turn around. That's where it often turns around there. It did turn around, turn around again. I drew this in. And I chose, as I said last night when I was in my webinar, I said there are certain patterns that are just they look perfect for a plum line, number of bars on the left to the number of bars on the right. And the other times where you've got it, you've got to use other techniques. And there's a particular technique that I discussed. And I said, and I drew this in right here. And then there's Chapman Way inside wedge. It's pink on the dash, pink on the downside, dash green on the upside. It's on the upside is called the Chapman Way inside wedge target repellent line. And the downside is called the inside wedge target support line. And what we're looking at here is that I drew this in, chose a midpoint, I chose two points, I chose this as the base right here, this candle of 430 yesterday, which had a low 4446 and a higher 4469. And then I went to the one full bars before that was an exactly four o'clock at 442.50 as a low. And I drew in and I said, well, I was talking to myself. Actually, I like to do that because when I talk to myself, I'm much better behaved than when I just arbitrary look at the chart and say, I got to get when I talk it out as if I'm teaching someone I do so much better. I have the time. It's like, I have a tennis colleague. And I keep saying to him, he just he's always ahead of those just too quick. It's a really good player. But when he's off, he is so often can drive you bonkers. And when he serves, it can he can miss that three double false in a row. Otherwise, you get ace. So I always say, just count to one before you're about to count to one, it goes afterwards, he gives you this whole litany, I should have followed through shot on them. He's got the whole spiel and he shakes his shoulders and he throws his racket on that. So I always say to just count to one before you hit it. In others, just give your mind a little bit of a break from the excitement of the shot. I try to do that myself as well. And so I'm thinking I'm talking around, I've got this and I've got this. So I draw in and there's this perfect second arch right there, another arch within the bigger arch. And what a beautiful one, two, three, four, five, seven, eight bars to the upside. One, two, three, four, five, seven, eight bars to the downside. And then it comes and goes sideways. It's now pink. Pink means you're in a cell mode. Pink. And what does it do? I drew this in with the wedge. I gave it a target and everything. And where did it go to? I should have put an X in there instead of put a leg each downside. What's the low 44 44.50. What was the low that we were looking for? The first one was 44 44 46.75. And this low of four o'clock was 44 42.50. So it has this is the time period. The first one went almost within a point. And the second one went also within a point. So this is what I just wanted to do this now because I said to subscribe subscribers who were in the webinar, I said, I'll do a lot of this live over the coming days, just to kind of demonstrate in real time, because I drew this in the before it was before my show started, it was before 10 o'clock. So that was it. So that's kind of how I like to look at it. I wish I looked at it as clearly all the time, because sometimes I just got excited about it. But that was talking it through and looking exactly where there could be some kind of stunning. All right, with that said, here we go for the rest of the overview. So we've got silver doing really nicely here. And that says to me, at this particular point, silver is going to lead gold, but then gold should play catch up. But I need until Monday to really see if gold if this is a much a much stronger lift off in gold, then what has happened so often and this is go back to the gold chart here just look at this. Now if you're looking at on balance volume, that gave a very nice turnaround. I think it was the day before the low. No, it was exactly on the day. I like that. It also gave the exact top right there. Now that was the one that was a day before. So it's acting as a little bit of a GPS. But the MacDee is only now get turning positive. No, it doesn't yet turn positive. No, it's just barely positive. Sycastic is still only 24%. And the nine period is still that's got a tremendous way to go to go positive. So that's a little different. If I go back to the SI, there's the data chart on the left, you'll see that that right as we're speaking, L means that long means that the 914 has gone positive. The Asian could change. You've got to wait for a daily chart. I have to wait until the end of the day. But so far, MacDee is very strong. And the stochastics at 67. It's running, but it's not great. And on balance volume is running, but not great. And what is great is that it's moved nicely in proportion away from the 200 period moving out from the downside to the upside. That's good. So I do like silver a lot. Now, what we want to look at is high grade copper just to do these metals had a nice bounce of stalling a little bit here at 3.78. It's still in the lower range of the the trading range that says I like to put it together with wood, the ice shares global timber and forestry, EDF peak F top doji candle back in the beginning of August in the 76s. And now it's at 72. Not a big deal, but it is stalling from a peak D in the now I this is a pattern. This is the upside down. It's called the inverted Chapman wave falling X formation. And that just says to me, hmm, we've seen this before. And this pattern says very often, you come back and you retest the rising trend line. You could even take it out in an H pattern. But once you got to a D, you've already used up a lot of the upside energy, but you're kind of raising the base of support. So I don't have a down arrow just yet in this peak D. So this is says together with high grade copper, this is stalling pattern in the general economy around the world. That's what it's saying to me anyway. Now let's go to crude oil, crude oil right now my my my wonderful engineer in my my producer is always makes a little joke. It says crude oil, crude oil is down 15 cents to 78.73. It did turn negative. That means on a daily basis, it's in a cell signal, almost ready to upgrade to a cell mode, but that 200 green moving average is still at 77 18 the continuous context still quite a bit above it, about a two points of a point above it. So that's what I'm looking at as a peak C in the weekly chart. So I'm watching crude oil very closely together with that. I need to put this with the TLT because of patterns. The TLT now had a really strong takeoff yesterday or two days ago from the little dojo candle low of 92 23 93 23 says in the H to Emma pattern in the weekly chart, 9185 October 20 October the week of the 28th of October, 2020 2022 Congo to 2020 just yet, but we're not quite there yet. So it's almost a year ago. And here we are at 90 90 to 20 feet. So that says to me, there could be a rally in the bonds, but you've got to be a little bit careful here, because the month each our technicals are still pretty weak. And it's also that H pattern. 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And I thought, well, how do you actually help people when you're explaining? Now, some of these techniques, you do have to do work. In this particular instance, this is real simply enough to do any work. I could just put a big X there and say, okay, let's wait. If it hits, it hits. If it doesn't hit, I'm wrong. But at the same time, it reminded me, decades ago, when I was once I was a professional musician, when I was conducting an orchestra where I believe I once it was a Beethoven piano concert. I think it was the emperor. You know, I remember stopping. I stopped everyone. And I said, no, no, no, no, no, this is where Beethoven's at four o'clock in the afternoon used to love to go out and walk in the forest and the sun would come shining through the leaves. And it's just it's got a completely different feel. It's got it just and then as I'm saying it, someone in the back shouts, Do I play louder or softer? And I'll never forget that. I thought that was just priceless. I thought, God, that is that is perfect. And I said, softer. And I think in the general market, many times, what we what we like to think of is that the majority of people when they are learning a subject, there's only a real small percentage that really get it. I mean, just really get it. And then there are those that are kind of in there, they kind of get the gist, etc. But they already get it. And then there's something just goes right by them. And in the market, I can see with all the all the I mean, all I get all the time, even though I've tried to cut it out. I get all the time. I mean, have you taken your money out the bank yet? Well, Biden's doing it there. You know, I think a lot of the time, people just say, I'm getting a newsletter. I want to know, do I buy or do I sell? I remember this, I think it was must have been a brass player that said that they'd have the food spirit in the orchestra said, do I buy or do I sell? And that was perfect. And I'm just saying to myself, and yeah, you can have these courses. But a lot of the time, you want to make it as simple as possible, because I know for myself, I to motivate me to actually do something different to what I normally do. As you get older, it gets even harder, especially to say if it's technology based. So do I sell or do I buy? So let me go back to what I was doing. And one of the reasons is I thought I just mentioned that in the context of the market. So the question has come in, Basil, how come you're still short? So, well, I don't know if they were talking about height or white, I'm kind of mediocre height, getting a little shorter, I guess, as you get older. But no, look at this, for the doubt, the reason why I believe quite strongly that we haven't made Velo, we can make a little alo, alo, not Velo, and not JLo. But what we're really looking at is that this nine period moving average to make it as simple as possible is saying that it's widening the the distance between the nine to 14 is widening, so it hasn't started to narrow. So that means the price hasn't affected the movement of this key nine period moving average. The MACD histogram is improving just a little bit, but it's still very negative. This is the Dow daily chart on the left. Weekly chart, I don't want to talk about right now, because everything here is still relatively good, right? So we wait until Friday, the Friday closing really important for the weekly chart, but the daily the stochastic is at 11%. You remember when you over over 80%, that's positive when you're over 90%, that's great. If you're long and it's over 90% in the stochastic and flat and holding, fabulous. When it is negative, when it is 20%, that's negative when it's 10% is very negative. Remember that all the books, I mean, you find me any just let's Google it right now. Let's just go right now, Google it. And we'll say stochastic stochastic is question mark. And there it is. Random probability distribution pattern. What is meaning? What is a stochastic what is a stochastic in science? What is this? I shouldn't have done that. Yeah, we got stochastic. etymology or that okay, let's look where it gets to the 20% and 80%. If I can find it, probably this is the one that doesn't have it. Physics. Oh, my God, the biology, creativity, computer science, finance. What did I ask? I'm just not stochastic. Remember, it goes over my head. I'm then I'm right then they go over the area. Okay, stochastic definition of meaning, William Webster. So it says here. Let me see if I can find it. Greeks stochastic skillful. I'm not going to find it. Anyway, most of the definitions say over 80% is overbought and under 20% is oversold. And I say no, overbought means that it's kind of over that it needs to come back under. There's an implication there. I say over 80% is fantastic. That's what you want. If it only goes there for a very brief moment, you don't want that. That's where that's when it fails. And under 20% is not good. That's what you want to see if you if you're short. Okay, so in this in the Dow charts, the reason why we were able to short using particular techniques have a way of techniques. We saw it right at the top at August the first at 35,679. But look at this chart of the monthly we are still long from October of last year, the day of the low and the day of the low 320 on the 20th on the I think it actually was 20 back in 2020 at 18,230 in that day we wrong. So we still have in the diamonds, we still have those positions. So this is kind of a counter trend. Why is it a counter trend? Because the weekend, the monthly are still looking very good. But look at that pink nine period moving average is saying, wow, it couldn't even break and close above it. You touched it for the first time in seven or eight trading days and you can't hold it. Look at the SMH is where they are right now. The estimation is that 152. We're short from 150 107 161 17 was the all time how we short within two points of the high. So we I didn't have the guts to that I really want to do it. I want to get back into the SOXS which we've done so successfully. And this is what I mean. There are moments where you're overthinking. But my thinking was, it gave so much upside action overnight and into from the close over after the close into overnight. I don't know what more they could do. I think they will come back at some point to go back into the 500 area. But right now it's kind of over oversold the little as SOX went from 933 to 1025. Wow, nice move. For we are solution. 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Oh, round number high. But that, years ago, we were doing, we were doing these webinars. I was doing one of my three day courses, which is the reason why my voice today still gets scratchy very quickly. So first two days is level one, and then third day was level two. And I remember I had someone who was in my class who had been at Goldman Sachs. I didn't know that at the time, but later in the day, we're talking about it. And you see, I was at Goldman Sachs and me and my buddy, we were shorting what the Goldman Sachs people said, you should be buying. When the head office found out that we were doing it, they didn't ask us how we did because we did fabulously. Way better, obviously, than the people who did the wrong thing. And so we left to start our own business. And he said, one of the things my buddy did, I didn't have the courage to do it, he said, but my buddy shorted almost all the ETFs, whether they were long or short. And of course, in those days, there were not hundreds. There were just whatever it was. And because there's this daily shrinkage, I mean, look at this, we are still on the UDOW from back in October. And look what happens. I mean, unlike the diamonds, which has done really well, this is three times, it's not recommended to do, but I've just, we've kept it because it was a position. So that's the UDOW. We got, we got a lot, we saw long from 44.05 back in October, the 21st stops never being hit, taking a little bit off for really nice gains. But at the same time, and then we had a long from August, which was a trading position, and we've taken most, we took all of that off with nice gains. And we were really short and long. We went to this. But look at this, you've gone, gone in all this time, you've gone from 44 in the UDOW to 58. But the diamonds, we've gone from 40, 44, sorry, the diamonds have gone from 210.9 score, 211 back in April of 2020. That's April of 2020. And here we are at 344. So that whittling away of the three times long, it just, you know, so get back to the point that I was making. So these are trading vehicles, you've got to treat them. I, in this one instance, we've not treated as a trading vehicle in that core position. And we know that it's not going to perform as well, but it's there. But look at this, look at that, from 4000, it never did hit that. This is just because it gets recalculated. 4620 round number high, trading right now at 10, $10.31. I would say that's a little bit of a decline, right? Percentage wise. No, that doesn't really happen. Well, maybe if you did hold it at that particular point, you'd see some kind of a decline like that. So remember, these are trading vehicles. So now let's get back to the story. And why did I feel very strong this morning? Because last time when we were doing the webinar, I said, we're gonna have to watch this very closely because I wanted for four days, we did that for two days. We bought the UDO double as having the DOG, which is the short, we bought the three times long. But it was just a quick trade. We lost 1.2% on a small position. Then we lost, I think, 0.8 or something. I mean, with the three times long to lose 0.8, that's crazy. I mean, usually you have a good percentage stop because you've got to give it some room. No, I had no room. And it did quite nicely over the last couple of days. But I still didn't feel that I wanted to go into it. I felt very suspicious of everything that's going on here. I feel a little bit about that way in gold. Even though gold is now turned up because I need gold to prove itself that if it wasn't for silver, which makes me much more confident that gold is making a pretty decent low here. And you can see it in some of the stocks. And I should mention Tom's doing a gold, I think it was coming Wednesday, he's doing a gold webinar for one of the first times in years. I don't really remember when he did the last one. That should be really interesting, perfect timing. So yes, I do think so. And if you look at the ASA is one that I always look at, nice bounce off the top. But technically, it's still just a bounce. It needs to do more. Nothing, it can't. I'm just saying, I need proof right now. So that's in that sector. So I wanted to do a couple of other things. I wanted to show this chart. WK, it popped up in my screen list. WKME. This is not a buyer or seller or anything. It's to show you something in the chapter wave methodology. I told my subscribers, I will be doing these live. If they have a chance to listen to the show, I'll do it live. In fact, what I might do is I'll sell, give it a particular time each day for five minutes or so, just do a chapter wave methodology. You see this chart, forget it doesn't matter what it is, doesn't matter what the price is, you're just looking at the movement of the bars. See at 7.82, that's the low. So I'm going to circle it right there. It got an up arrow only because it was such a powerful move. The stochastic was rallying, the MACD rallying, the nine period actually did go plus positive for a moment, but it was such a big move. I put an up arrow in because it was a price, a rally based on momentum, but no follow through. All right? But my point here is that that's a peak A, a gray A, I didn't make these all grad and change the color, but that's a gray A. That little peak over there is an A. That peak over there is a B. That is lower, but it's still an A and a B. This is your starting point. This, because it's high, even though that bar is lower than everything else, it hasn't taken out 7.82. Therefore, this gets counted as C. This is an A and a B. That's an A and a B. This low one is an A, which plunges down to where? 7.82. That is still extant. That is still working. If it went to 7.81, kaput, that's finished. So that says that the 7.82 is still holding the base, the starting point from roundabout May the 15th. And here we are, months later, and this daily chart shows you WKME. Walk me, I never heard of this before, limited. A digital adoption platform. I thought it was a dog service, but it's not. It's for using this technology on top of others, and it kind of sorts things out and tells you what to do. Then it goes peak A, gray A, gray B, and that's your C right there at 992 on the 5th of July. Because it took it out by one penny, it starts not leg C, it picks up that C and this is D. Now, you might say, well, wait a minute, it has all the characteristics of it. It even looks like a kind of a B the way it's so powerful. Absolutely. And the stochastic is at 93% and the MACD. But that doesn't mean to say Ponga E, F and G, or it could retrace or whatever thing, but that's the notation. It's right on the 200-period moving average. We do not have a position. I bought this up only because I had a really good look at this morning. I said, what a nice example of restart. 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So okay here's the this is the the e-mini look at this arch formation taken out that now that's resistance at any point in the day if the e-mini can trade about 44.52 it's at 44.33 and let's just say 44.46 that'll be that'll be a good sign to say okay some of the selling is done now we can have a little bit of buying maybe even a little bit of buying into the close we'll see but if it takes out the 44 this left side low right here oh the way down forget that if it just takes out this doji candle low of 44.23 that's the low of 10.30 yesterday that's going to be a problem all right so with that said we're about to wrap up we're about to go to Steve Rhodes I just don't know yet I think Larry's voice is still under the weather I just have to check my schedule if I'm able to I'm just you know if I'm able to I'll try to do his hour I know there's a lot that I would like to be in the commodities etc to be a nice opportunity to be here don't do it live why not I just don't know yet but I'll let my engineer know it's possible but I do know that Larry's not well today his voice is still scratched so stay tuned for programming at TF and check out more people they use the latter because of us