 Is there any instance of a woman giving birth to something that is not a human being, a baby, like a turtle, or as our first lady suggested a breakfast taco? I mean is there any instance where other than a human being has been born? So you know this is a great question that I think that any adult is right to ask. I'm not going to make fun of him and claim that this is really stupid. I'm not going to point out how Republicans like this are clowns and they ask the dumbest questions imaginable. Let's seriously entertain what he's saying here. Can a human being give birth to a turtle or a taco? Now the answer Mr. Heiss, Jody Heiss, is no, no they can't. You could like if you wanted to if you wanted to be really weird you could put a taco inside of you and then push it out to kind of emulate birth, but no you're not able to actually give birth to a taco or a turtle. So great question. There are no stupid questions. I'm not gonna be mean. I'm not gonna go off. But I'm just curious does anyone know what the context is without knowing what he's talking about? For some reason and I haven't I haven't seen what the actual context is. I just saw this 22-second clip but my guess is that it's something adjacent to talk of birthing people and hysteria over that. Oh are you saying that men can get pregnant birthing people? So I think it's probably within that realm right? It's a fetus of human I'm guessing. That's actually a good guess. Okay so I believe that mediaite has the scoop for us. Things got weird during a house hearing on abortion rights when representative Jody Heiss asked the president and CEO of the National Women's Law Center for Tima Ghost Graves if women could give birth to a turtle or a taco. Yes that appears to be the current state of sarcastic discourse in our nation's capital. Heiss is a committed pro-life advocate who is trying to make the case that life starts at conception. That's honestly I'm that's a compelling case if you're if you're a quote pro-lifer you know and you want to prove that life begins at conception definitely ask if women can can give birth to turtles or tacos that will definitely demonstrate your intelligence with regard to birthing issues and maternity. He was also trying to score some cheap points and perhaps go viral by ridiculing first lady Jill Biden. I mean you're gonna go viral but not necessarily for the right reasons right? The first lady apologized for a ham-fisted metaphor in which she celebrated the diversity of Hispanic Americans by citing the unique nature of breakfast tacos. Okay I heard about this but I didn't read what this story was about. Many blamed her for calling Hispanics tacos. She did not but it was a weird comment anyway but I digress sounds like a weird comment okay still I'm still not really putting two and two together as to why you'd say hey she called Hispanic people tacos therefore can you push a taco out of your pussy? Can you give birth to a turtle? Like I'm trying to I'm trying to connect the dots here and I'm not sure how he made that logical leap. How do you get from point A to point B? I genuinely don't know. So Heiss thought it would be maybe cute to include that in an obvious effort to make his guest look foolish. Oh it's he's like it's gonna make them look foolish if I an adult ask if a woman can give birth to a taco. What? I give up on humanity. Are there any instances? Okay so we saw that some of the video. Well there are definitely instances where people have where people have stillborn ghost graves replied that impossibly the exchange went downhill from there. The transcript of their back-and-forth is below. Is there a video? This is gonna be painful to read this. So we go from turtle to taco to stillborn. Heiss I was still a baby. I guess the point is still a person is it not ghost graves if I can finish I actually think that representative Shannon's point about viability is goes to exactly what you were naming when I'm okay I need the video because this is very difficult to read. It's not it's not it's not helping me like grasp what the context is here even like knowing that he was referencing the first lady's dumb comment I don't know what the fuck they're both talking about. Talking about personal viability. It did so because the consideration was whether or not the fetus can live outside the body. Heiss there are many people who cannot live without insulin. Does that mean we should kill these people? Wow what a valid argument. Holy shit. Does it mean we should kill these people who cannot survive without insulin? Well there's no other intelligence this is my time. Okay first of all if you are a Republican and you have big pharmaceutical donors and you vote against reducing the cost of prescription drugs if you don't support universal access to health care that's free at the point of service like Medicare for all I feel like you're not the right messenger for this because you actually would unironically say yes if people can't have insulin they should just die if you can't afford insulin you should just die so you can't make this argument right if you support Medicare for all you can make this argument I guess right but um Republican Jody Heiss here you don't get to make this argument unless you are unequivocally in support of Medicare for all but I doubt that he is because there's not a single Republican who has co-sponsored Medicare for all gross graves or ghost graves Jesus Christ oh I thought you were asking us so I was wanting to have an opportunity to explain so it's not a question of turtles or I'm not really sure what it is a question of Heiss it's a question of personhood okay I'm still really struggling to find out how we get to personhood from turtles and tacos I just I'm really struggling here that's what I'm getting to and there is not an instance that I'm aware of of anyone giving birth to something other than a person so if it is a person after birth it is by extension it is by extension is that person before birth okay I'm still not seeing the connection what point is he even trying to make like it could be a dumb point but if I could grasp the point however dumb it may be that would be helpful ghost graves I really hope people are watching today because the question on the table is about abortion for sure but actually the conversation you're having is about contraception it's about in vitro fertilization is about a whole large is about a whole large I'm okay now she's confusing me my head is about to pop off of my shoulders because I'm I'm growing more confused by the second yeah I love politics Viviana said it says right this is American politics folks completely incomprehensible no no you mischaracterize okay the guy who says can a woman push a taco out of her pussy is accusing you of mischaracterizing I'm so sorry turtle taco guy I'm having a clear discussion about abortion and the fact that is that it is a person it is a person that we're dealing with and that person after birth clearly is a person okay and therefore by extension before birth is also a person okay okay this actually is making it a little bit clear about what the fuck he's trying to talk about okay so if it's a person after it's born then five minutes before it's born why isn't it also a person so this is a nod to quote unquote late-stage abortions so what he doesn't realize is that if you look at data with regard to the gestational periods when abortions take place it's within the first 10 to 12 weeks so we're not talking about anything other than clumps of cells zygote so in that instance like is it a potential to become life sure just as sperm is the potential to become life but we don't penalize men when they splurge into a sock or splurge into a T a Kleenex right we only make sure that women's bodies are controlled and if we're really pro-life if we want to be consistent shouldn't we mandate blood donations shouldn't we mandate organ donations I mean we only need one kidney technically right so shouldn't we all be forced to give up our kidneys to someone who could benefit from it also you know in the United States of America when we're not even using our bodies after we're deceased they can't just take our organs and give it to living people that's illegal you have to go to the DMV when you get a new driver's license or ID card and explicitly tell them yes I want to be an organ donor so in the event I die you can use my organs to save someone else's life like shouldn't it just be like compulsory organ donor status for everyone if you're pro-life see we know that bodily autonomy is very important but when it comes to women Republican men view them as inferior they view them as incapable of making their own choices when it comes to their own reproductive health so you have to control them right you have to make it seem as if what they're doing is tantamount to murder when that's fucking insane when you know people like Tim Pool make this argument about like oh well what if like a woman is eight months pregnant and she changes her mind and gets an abortion like I'm kind of like paraphrasing what he's saying but they they are under this delusion that people who are eight months pregnant might just flippantly change their mind on a dime and have an abortion but if you're eight months pregnant if you're seven months pregnant you want to have that baby the only reason of why you'd get an abortion at that point in the pregnancy would be if your health is threatened if the fetus had died and you have to have an abortion to get rid of the dead fetus before it makes you sick really you can turn this around and say okay well if it's a person in the womb and it's a person outside of the womb then shouldn't we afford that same person what they had in the womb so let me let me explain so when you are a fetus when you're inside of a womb you have guaranteed access to food you have housing so why is it that when you're born after you leave the womb those guarantees go away shouldn't we guarantee housing to people shouldn't we guarantee food to people nourishment warmth you could flip this around on them and the question comes down to when does a person have the right to life and when does a person have the right to health care oh when a republican talks about health care you know they're fucking serious and we can argue all day that it's the abortion that abortion is health care it literally is health care it certainly is not health care to the baby okay it's literally health care though so you can you can make that argument but it's it's factually inaccurate it quite literally is a form of health care doctors are the ones who perform abortions you can't just like do it I mean I you can right that's what back alley you know coat hanger abortions were but it's dangerous it threatens the health of mothers it could be life-threatening so this is why it's a medical procedure leave it up to doctors like I could in theory if I wanted to perform a surgery and cut out like a kidney from someone do a heart transplant but do I know what the fuck I'm doing of course I don't so we leave that to doctors health care protects life and abortion by definition boys life it is not health care but if we're talking about a person which we are we're not talking a taco we're talking a person in the womb we're talking where it is okay so he's trying really hard to innovate a little bit right but it's not working because what he's saying is completely ludicrous completely ludicrous have her way