 Yes, please. Give me Senator Bobby Kennedy, please. Senator Bobby Kennedy, surely, Mr. President. Hello? Senator Robert Kennedy, 90. Well? Bobby, how are you? Fine, thanks, Mr. President. How are you? Pretty good. I'm going to have a little operation Friday morning for a gallbladder condition that announced a little bit. And I was calling you on another matter, but I thought I might tell you if we heard on the radio. Oh, I see. But it's not serious, is it? I don't think so. It's a pretty big gallbladder club, but no one ever knows until I get it behind them. It doesn't give me any room trouble that they think it might rupture or something. If I'm going to get it taken care of, I've got a lot of stones in it. Well, take care of yourself, Mr. President. Bobby, I'm going to want to send the name of Jim Watson, who's now on the court up in New York to the Senate for a vacancy. We have our Negro on the customs court. It's been vacant for some time, one of the crewmen's appointees, I believe, retired. Yeah. And I'm going to send a judge, a Republican judge from Indiana. And I've got an FBI back on Watson. He's on some state court on the remotely. That'll be a vacancy. But as I understand it, they'll be filled by appointment temporarily. Do you know him? Is his name Jim Watson? Yeah. No, I don't know him. I met him. President Kennedy asked me to take him to Jamaica to the Independence Day ceremony. Yeah. And I took him and met him and have known him since then. He was a good supporter of powers in 60. That's fine. He was in the state legislature in New York. Then he was elected a judge in New York. Yeah. And the judgeship pays 25. This customs court sits in New York and it's had two vacancies and it's a lifetime job. The state judgeship is a 10-year job. Yeah. I didn't want to send him up until I talked to you. That's fine. You know whatever you say. Thank you, my friend. Mr. President, you know I talked to Bill Moyers about the Papal Nuncio. Yes. I asked Russ to see him. I'm going to the hospital that Thursday. I talked to the pope about him yesterday. We are very distressed about what's happened there. And we've got Bunker there every moment. I called him up over this weekend. The Fulbright thing, yeah, they destroyed us. I don't think we've hardly won the election because our own people have questioned what we've done. And there's a good deal of anti-American sentiment. I'm confident that we'd have another Castro if we hadn't have gone in when we did. But the two or three stories shoot his coverage and one or two others and put us in rather bad light. And our own folk statements have been used very effectively against us. And there's a good deal of anti-American sentiment, as you know, been there all through the years. And I don't know if Bunker thinks that this following another week, 10 days, may be able to get the leftist disarmed and Kimonio's group integrated back in the army and Bunker's back down there trying to get that done. If he's unable to do it, we're going to have a choice then of either having to identify ourselves with another outfit or see the army come back in for a takeover. It's going to be a very difficult choice. Well, can I just be frank about it with you? I just think that this is not the kind of thing that... I mean, I'm glad to have Secretary Rusty and I just don't think it's the kind of thing that he's going to understand. And you know, this man's got some criticism about how the situation is being handled. He has some rather extreme ideas about what could be done in the future. He doesn't think that it's a question of money. And it's got to be whoever talks to him has to have your confidence and be able to... If the idea makes any sense, put it into operation. But if it ever gets lost in the machinery of the State Department, it's never going to be done. Well, I asked Rusty this afternoon, he told me when I brought it up with Mike and the group that was present that he had an appointment with the paper nuns here who apparently is asked to see him. He came down to this cabinet meeting when I told him I was going to the hospital. And he said he had an appointment with him and he'd report right back. And I told him back Monday to carry through with it. I know what he's going to say. He's going to say just what Bunker said this week that things are a hell of a mess there. But he has some ideas, Mr. President, about what could be done. You know, it's just on the question. He says it's tremendous starvation throughout the country. There is. And they want about $30 million immediate program when our economic people are working on it. The question is if we're going to turn it into a communist base of when and how we ought to handle it. We're hoping that we can get people that would handle the aid that we are ready to put in there. We think the ultimate of this cost maybe $100 million. Yeah, he says that he thinks that with the present machinery that most of that money is going to stick to the hands of those who have it. Well, we're afraid of that too. We've got Bunkers trying now to get us a new ambassador. We've destroyed the one we've had, which my feeling the others that dealt with English did a good job and was a good man for it. But he's been pretty well discredited by his own citizens back at home. And we've got to get a new man in there. And I guess under him set up the economic program. We've got Tony Solomon who's in charge of the economic aspects for Latin America trying to lay out the program. He fed them during the whole period before this provisional government got in. And I'm prepared, ready and willing to put dozens of millions in there to help restore their economy and carry them least through the next year because the election is nine months. But I think the first thing we've got to do is get this provisional president to get the arms back in the arsenals and get the men back in the army which he hopes he can do this week. And if he can't do it, then we may have all hell break loose again and have our own troops under fire. Can I give you again what he thinks? That his feeling is that there's so much corruption there that if it's handled through the government that's established a lot of it's going to stick to people's hands or it's going to be used for political purposes and that it really has to be handled that this starvation is facing the people right at the moment. Hello? Yes. No, this is Iran. Iran? Yes. And it has to be done just through the government that it's going to be lost and that if we could get the food and it was obvious that it came from the United States to the people right away that it could be effective. Now what he thinks that as long as they establish something through some of the religious and private organizations down there after their leading Protestant bishop and the Catholic bishop and if there's any due or whatever there might be there to undertake the distribution throughout the country and that they set up through their regular channels which was overseen by some of these people with whom everybody has confidence and they did it that it could be very effective and that would be clear that it wouldn't be for religious purposes but just to try to get the food out to the people that it's going to take such a long period of time to do it through the government and it's going to also so much of it's going to be lost that he said I've seen 12 governments since he's been down there and so much of it's corrupt and that they all steal and that's accepted. Yes, I think that's true and my problem now is how to get this government to keep it from turning communist and they're getting control of it and I'll pass on to a bunker who is down there with Tony Solomon trying to set up an economic plan for the whole island and these suggestions and see if they think that to see how they work them out with them. Fine, take care of yourself. Thanks, Bobbie.