 I started with nothing. Absolutely nothing. In fact, I started below nothing. And I started growing this little plumbing company with six employees to now we have over 300 employees. And back in 2009, you guys tried to unionize me. My guys were making money. They were being paid more than the union halls were paying their plumbers. Our benefits were better. But because we started bidding jobs at reunion jobs and winning those union pipe fitters decided they were going to come after us, they would show up at my house. They'd be leaning up against my trucks. I'm not afraid of a physical confrontation. In fact, sometimes I look forward to it. That's not my problem. But when you're doing that to my employees and then when they when that didn't work, they started picketing our job site saying shame on mulling, shame on mulling for what? For what? Because we were paying higher wages because we had better benefits and we wasn't requiring them to pay your guys as absorbent salaries. You talk about CEOs that are making all this money. And what do you make, Mr. O'Brien? Well, I'm glad you asked that question. Yeah, I know what you make because in 2019, your salary was, what is this, $193,000? I'm sure you've got some pay raises since then. Yeah, when I was an average UPS driver, the feeder driver makes $35,000 a year. That's what you bring. That's inaccurate. Hold on a second. That's inaccurate. Stay fax right here. Stay fax. That's inaccurate. The average UPS feeder driver makes $35,000. If you don't know your fax, then maybe you should be in position. I know him because I negotiate the contract. So I say one thing to you. What do you bring for that salary? What do I bring? What job have you committed or have you started? What job have you created? One job, other than sucking the paycheck out of somebody else that you want to say that you're trying to provide because you're forcing them to pay dues? No, we don't force them to pay dues. Senator, you've asked the question. You're out of line. That's not happening. Don't tell me I'm out of line. You are in line. Don't tell me I'm out of line. Don't tell me I'm out of line. You frame the stable or off guy. Because you don't know what you're talking about. You're going to tell me to shut my mouth? Yes, I did. Hold it. It's off guy. I'm not afraid of physical things. Senator, I don't have to be, but don't sit there and tell me I'm out of line. Senator, you made a statement. You asked the question. I didn't ask the question. You did. I answered the question. You asked the question. What was the report? It was a rhetorical question. Well, you may think it's rhetorical. It was rhetorical. It sounded to me like a question. Let him answer the question. I'm not yielding my time to him. So if you're going to let me keep my time, that's fine. You'll have your time. Let him. You ask a question. He has a right to answer that. You just watched the first half of a very heated exchange that took place during a hearing convened by Senator Bernie Sanders for the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions. The title of that hearing was Defending the Right of Workers to Organize Unions Free from Illegal Corporate Union Busting, which is hilarious because I'm sure that the Republicans in attendance felt very uncomfortable by that, which I love. But as you saw, Republican Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, who claims he's not anti-union, which is hilarious, attacked Teamsters Union leader Sean O'Brien as some sort of a leech, because it's the union leaders who are the leeches and not the greedy corporate CEOs. But as you saw, O'Brien was not putting up with his bullshit. And in the second half, which we're about to watch, well, let's just say that Mark Wayne Mullen's cheeks got clapped by the Teamsters leader when he was confronted about him being a greedy union-busting CEO himself. Let's watch. You can quote Carol Tomei, who quoted this. They make $93,000 on the lower end. Some of them make $150,000. I said feeder drivers. Feeder drivers, truck-to-trail drivers. Some of them making $150,000 per year. Some of them, dude. I don't disagree with that. Most of them have actually been there for years. Most of them make over $100,000. So reclaiming my time, I go back to the whole fact that, sir, you haven't created a job. We haven't? You haven't been there. You haven't. Sure we have. You haven't. Sure we have. Tell me one job that you created. What are you talking about? Be specific. You're an employer? No, I'm not an employer. No, but you know, it's funny, we create opportunity. We create opportunity. We create opportunity because we hold greedy CEOs like yourself accountable. You call me a greedy CEO? Oh yeah, you are. You want to attack my salary, I'll attack yours. What did you make when you owned your company? I made my company. I kept my salary down at about $50,000 a year because I invested every penny into it. Okay, all right. You mean you hid money? No, I didn't hide it. Oh, hold on a second. Okay, he said that's out of line. You said I was out of line. We're even, we're even. We're not even. We're not even close to being even. You think it's smart? You think you're funny? No, you're not. You think you're funny. No, I never said, did I smile? You frame your opening statement. Hold on, hold on, let's, you frame your opening statement, Stan, you're at the outside. Send it up, continue, send it up. Please continue your statements. But sir, this is, I think, I think it's great that you're doing this because this shows their behavior on how they try to come in and recognize a shot. And they say about intimidation, and it's not about intimidation. They show your behavior. Stay on the issue, please. The issue is, if you're really for the employee, then why are you against right to work? Why are you against private ballots? If you're really about the employee, let the employee make the choice. I'm not anti-union, but when you don't want to have a private ballot, that's not intimidating. That's not intimidating. Why wouldn't you want a private ballot? If that is intimidating the employee, if you don't want to write to work state, don't force somebody to make, to pay dues to an organization they may not agree with. Just to be clear, that right there was total bullshit from Mark Wayne Mullen. If union members don't pay their dues, then unions can't exist. But that's what these union-busting Republicans want. They want to defang unions so their corporate donors can continue to exploit employees. It's not right to work. It's right to work for less under shittier conditions. But my favorite part of that, of course, was when Sean O'Brien called him out for being a greedy CEO because that is absolutely factual. As The Washington Post reported back in 2014, Mark Wayne Mullen violated House ethics rules by raking in more than $600,000 from his plumbing company, which for exceeds permissible levels of outside income from members of Congress. And for additional context, Kenny Stancil of Common Dreams explains, asked by O'Brien how much he made from his plumbing business, Mullen claimed, quote, I kept my salary down at about $50,000 a year because I invested every penny into it, which is bullshit. But in 2013, then-representative Mullen reportedly pocketed more than $600,000 from the company's in violation of House ethics rules and federal laws limiting how much outside income members of Congress are allowed to receive. Although Mullen transferred ownership of the companies to his family, he continued to serve as a board member and chief advertiser while raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yeah. So do you understand now how slimy and weasley Mark Wayne Mullen is? Oh, I only made $50,000 a year. That was my official salary. Yeah, but yet you pocketed hundreds of thousands of dollars by transferring ownership to your family. So you're full of shit. And Sean O'Brien saw right through you. Now, not to mention that, Sean O'Brien later tweeted out, for the record, Senator Mullen saw his reported assets balloon from a range of $7.3 million to $29.9 million at the end of 2020 to a range of $31.6 million to $75.6 million. But he's just a small business owner, folks, who doesn't want to see unions intimidate his workers or his small business. He cares about the working class, right? Yeah, not buying it. And in response to this video going viral, people on Twitter quickly pointed out what his response was to Biden's student debt forgiveness plan. He tweeted out, we do not need farmers and ranchers, small business owners and teachers in Oklahoma paying the debts of Ivy League lawyers and doctors across the U.S. So small business owners shouldn't bear the cost of these elite college graduates, who, by the way, make less than $75,000 per year. That's completely unacceptable. They shouldn't be forced to bear that cost. But it's perfectly reasonable that multi-millionaires like him get his PPP loan forgiven entirely. Because as you recall, the Biden administration responded to that tweet pointing out Congressman Mark Wayne Mullen had over $1.4 million in PPP loans forgiven. Because it's fine if farmers and ranchers and small business owners and teachers in Oklahoma pay the debt of a powerful U.S. Senator worth millions upon millions of dollars, but it's completely unacceptable to cancel a portion of debt for Americans making less than $75,000 per year. They're so disingenuous, but I want to leave you with some lasting words from Sean O'Brien who responded on Twitter after this exchange went viral saying, don't let them distract you. Unions create jobs, make work safer, and put more money in workers' pockets. Most importantly, everything we do is to improve the lives of our members. I wonder if some others can say the same about their constituents. Exactly. So, yeah, there's nothing else to say about this. We'll leave that there. Mark Wayne Mullen learned the hard way that if you're going to take a shot at unions, you better not miss.