 How does the term two-pizza team relate to the growing of an engineering company? Well, in this week's Engineering Manager's 80-20 Shorts video, CEO and founder of Big Time Software, Brian Soners, is going to tell us exactly how it relates. Brian works with many engineering companies and helps them in their growth. And here he's going to tell us exactly what that two-pizza team means. Go ahead, Brian. Yeah, it comes from Amazon that, you know, Pizzas talked about having every great thing kind of being developed by a team that you could feed with two pizzas, right? And so, and it's an exciting moment. It's that, you know, you've already made the jump from working for somebody else to kind of building your own business. And now you can sit around with people who are actually getting the work done and you can feed the whole team with two pizzas. And it's a great moment, right? Like, you really enjoy being it. And for Big Time, our whole goal is to help you preserve that excitement of a two-pizza team. But how do I get that to be two of those or three of those or four of those? And how do those teams work together? And how can I keep that energy in a two-pizza team and still grow to 50 or 60 or 200, you know, engineers? And I think that's the challenge when you're talking about growing a successful, well-regarded engineering firm that keeps its people energized. Yeah, it's interesting. And kind of you can kind of rate the growth of your company by how many pizzas it takes to feed your team at any point in time. But yeah, it is an important point because which we get into in the podcast that, you know, one of the big challenges for I think all engineers and technical professionals is stepping out of the doer role and looking more at the company as a whole or the department or the division as a whole and saying, OK, I can no longer, you know, calculate XYZ calculations and write the report. I need to make sure that these two or three individuals are all writing the right reports and doing the right things on their projects. And that's just that makes the difference. You stop thinking projects and start thinking people. That's just a fundamental shift. There you go. There you have it. All right. So once again, Brian Soehner, CEO and founder of Big Time Software. You can hear the entire Civil Engineering podcast soon at civilengineeringpodcast.com.