 We're here with Simbiond here at ID Tech Show. So who are you? My name is Alice and I am the Operations Manager here at Simbiond. So what are we looking at here? Here you can see OLEDs. These are OLED lighting tiles from Philips Research. And they are here to demonstrate the type of devices that we can simulate with our software. If you look in a cross-section of a small part of this device, you will see what is coming up on the screen now, which is a visualization of what our software can do. We model the movement of charges within an organic electronic device. And this will give us predictions on efficiency, color points of devices such as OLEDs for lighting and display applications as well as organic photovoltaic devices such as solar cells, transistors, sensors and all of the devices that are based on organic molecules. Is that a rule? No, this is actually the device stack. So each and every device of this is made from many layers on top of each other and each layer has a specific role. For example, one layer. So now that it's rotating. At each layer we have a hole-injecting side here. The red dots are holes and the blue dots are electrons. So the other side we have an electron-injecting layer. The white parts are the electrodes and here in the middle we have a matrix where these charges recombine, especially here in this interface region. And when these charges recombine, they make a photon and the photon is light. This will then come out of the device as light. So are you the only ones doing this? We have a unique approach and model to simulating organic electronic devices. There are other competitors on the market doing it differently but we have a fully 3D model that is very accurate starting from molecular parameters and these can be obtained by experimental. Results or from other calculations done earlier on on a smaller scale. So OLED lighting is going to be huge, right? So everybody developing that needs to work with you? Yeah, OLED lighting is one step but if you think of high-end smartphones those have OLED displays and we can help OLED manufacturers and materials manufacturers to increase their efficiency to make new materials that are better for the applications. Both flexible, which is why the organic electronics are very interesting. You can make flexible displays as well as other applications like solar cells that are flexible and that you can put inside buildings, for example. So it's not only OLED? No, it's all organic electronic devices based on molecules. So what other things are there like this? OLED and then what? OLED, OPV is organic photovoltaics, so solar cells. We can also simulate OPD which is organic photo detectors and these you can use for example in wearable electronics and in medical applications to check pulse blood oxygenation for example but also make artificial retinas out of them and these are also made with organic materials and other applications can be organic batteries as well and any type of electronic process that is based on molecules. And do you have customers? Yes, we do. We are not at liberty of disclosing their names. Are you a startup or not really? We are a startup, we have been in business for two and a half years now and we are at this time completely self-sufficient. We use European funding to increase our knowledge pool and our team to broaden and do the R&D for our products but we are self-standing as of now. Where are you based? We are based in Eindhoven, the Netherlands. And how many people? We are seven in the team right now including physicists, software developers and sales. So what's next? What more could you simulate? Yeah, we're working right now. The next logical step is a better understanding organic photovoltaics and a lot of the talks here at ID Tech Extra are also on perovskites and other applications of these photovoltaics and that is the logical next step. We are also working in collaboration with the universities in making our model even more accurate to a level that has been unprecedented and that is all state-of-the-art research at this time. And beyond because? Beyond because we don't only simulate and explain what happens but we can predict with our model. So you can do the simulation before you make the device and that is unique.