 What's up everybody? Welcome to XP embuzz. My name is Liz Jackson and today I have yet another amazing guest. David Wanda is in the building. Habari ya kwa Wanda? Thank you so much for making time for us and Wanda. So, CJ Twanzia wapi, story ni mingi. Ni mingi ebutu ambeo umekuwa wapi and then updaters on your health umekuwa aji, sayuna filaji. Ni mingi kwa umekuwa niki geti, kwa question sana kwa wakini follow and stuff. Ni mingi kwa umekuwa zik. Sayat least nga get better, that's why ni may have kuri lizzong. Nili kwa umi mingi nga kwa utu momentumtona ni may zaku lizzong, ama nitaan zako wana kana inpublic just know that mi kwa maali nae liki a kupona. So, I thank God for so far. And the health issue may affect your career? Habности ni tanini mihia Aso ni u大家 kuia m predictions Soros consultant ni tanini mcha Sofitis na ii mcha Sofitis ni kwaatsu Sofitik nini Simituu yums SS würde na henda Se dosi ni hende кumika sinisha So So like possibly for how long when it may take like Holland for how long as the head issue lya a last year April last April More than one year and some months. One year and some months. And during that period, as a creative, as a musician, sometimes you find your peace or your strength okiwa pala studio, lukuna kwa aje? Actually, kuna album nili fanya nikiwa in the middest of all that. You can actually feel my pain in kwa yu album. Most of the songs, like half of the songs nili yandikiya kondisha niyangu and how I really felt about story zote. And to be very honest with you, takangi kuske yu album up to now. Actually, niki yangu a place, one of the songs yu album nmombia like Toa 2, because zina ni kumbushanga very dark past na sida hi tu kukumbuka any of that. So moving on from the illness and we thank you that you're getting better. Umeru di kuage, umeru li zingoma na nimo, talk to us about the whole songwriting, kama niwebo uli yandikiya na idea ya hi yungu mayotili to kiawapi. So it's what you're going to say, leo na trakaku paya na watu apai. My very good brother itwa Mr. Seed. This guy, aja niyan zi from the beginning. Back in 2020 kikuwa na corona, in 2020 ama 2019 sezi kumbukapua. Nimo ali release kava yasongia Seed na itwa Simama. Very beautiful, ali imba vizuri sana ali imba vizuri kuli kumunyewe. So mi mi juna jwa munyewe sezi ni Mabeste. Nika diem munyewe. Mambo. Daki ni wanda wana diem munyewe no kuna nambayake. Oh sorry, ok ni kisama kudiyam ni I reach out to you. Nika reach out to munyewe. Kama ni aje pwasana. A mi na traka, na trakaku fanya song na mama. Jusuna jwa sezi ni Mabeste. So mi siyoni aje ni pitiya manegement because I'll kushafon manegement back then. Siyoni aje ni pitiya manegement na uni Beste. Angunia zatu mumia ni aje mi na diei fewa. Mi na trakaku fanya song na mama. Aka ni ambiya. Lafu mi na jumse kama daingi kitu. Lafu mi na jumse mi ni Beste. So mi na kwangahad kuake. For real mi ni kiti shangasid kitu na kwangahad na imbe. No, if you point blank. 2019-2020 siyoni kumpuka mwa ka. Kana imbe haa chill kuanza. Vile 12 ni imbe haa chill kaka the first week, the second week, the third week aja get back nika jumse a diei story. So mi ni kanya mazana. Nika chana kana yo story evo. So this year, something happened. Ujwa bada unil kwa msi kanda. Sida mi kwa one of those people unil kwa kiri chout sana. Una hende le aje wu kwa aje ni ni. I really thank that guy. I imagine he was sick and laughing. The previous night he was standing in to details. Kwa iso story mo. But he wasn't sick. So he called me and said na aje wu na hende le aje. One of those people he called me and opened up. So he told me that he was sick. On top of being sick I was sick. Nini zima henda nini zima henda. Then he said he was one of those guys who had skis and then came up with a solution. Shaka ama kwa mbe kitu fani. So kwa ni skis and then unil nili maireza kwa ni mbe ya. E bro, is ajo. Sanda kusahidi aji. Utafanya kolabu na nimo. Oh my God. So asirangu kaka kumtrims 2. Niko like so. Ikitu nili kwa mbe ya 3 years ago do nansaku ni mbe ya say. So nika hanzaku teta tena fresh. Aside from mi kumshuwe mi nim sick na ni mbe biwa. So nika hanzaku teta tena fresh. Roka ni skiza gana mbe ya. Bro, usia kiki yo kwa roho. Yo isha pita na isha pita. Isha pita. Kwa fani aivi. Kama uta kwa rei diku fani asong na nimo ota richa. Uti ni sawa ni kwa mbe ya ni sawa. Ima jina taku ni mbe ya pole ume. Biwa pole na kwa ngam sick. Ifo tu na ika isha evo. So now that aka kwa mbe ya it's okay. You can now do the song. Take us through the songwriting process muli yandika na e ii diku aji. Ii kwa po sana because ili kwa ni song nili kwa nisha do. So sida lini pia time ya ni fikiri nika fikiri nika nika get back kwa kwa ni kwa mbe ya aji. Nisa wabasi ya chanda fanya. Nanda fanya song na nimo because I was really thinking of what nanda fanya ni rode back kwa kwa music because nili kwa ni make up for like so many months ya release anything. Na e lewa. Chon li kwa na fikiri ya ni ni nini na eza rode na. Kwa kwa like okay maybe ni God do. Nika say ma okay. And so when I was with me kwa I kwa ok nwa naka ba kwa. Nisa wabzi pickle me kwa Sorry How is it working with Nimo? The video shoot, Nimo say, is it working with Ako Aji? Nimo is the most humble person I meet. I think Niza say maifu. Nimo humble sana, sana, sana. Nimo approachable by the way. Nimo Niza say, patana na eko street na omishena atas mama. She is that kind of a person. Ako na hatkubu asana. I think, una jwa Nimo say nime jwa nana e juzi. So, if you do not say mazizi, say matini, nili onatu kwa yi project nimo nilim jwa since tu kiwa EMB, aki kujangana seed kwa studio. Iu hatali kwa na yu back then when naku kwa mihanzaku wimba, naku kwa mihanzizi story mingi, yu hatali kwa na yu back then diwa kwa na ambakasai. So, nimo is just, nimkul sana. So, tu kitoka kwa yi yu song. Now, umerudi umerudi to music ama the next project na ingojafta. How long, what basically are you working on right now? After now, this song? I'm actually working on a lot. Nimi kwa niki rekod sana, sana, sana, sana, actually. Actually, nimi kwa niki rekod sana because, yu time nimi kwa mihziku, kuna time mihziku, kuna time mihziku, kika effective and creativity. Angus kwa na eza, andika kwa na eza, fanya anything. So, when creativity li rudi, trust me li rudi. Yani li rudi. Nili kwa content to even kila time li kwa na kwa nika. So, nimi rekod sana. So, I think right now I don't really think ma li u gonjutu mi fkshana na wine zani stop. Kama nisha fanya kwanza na nini enda pwa evi and ime enda pwa actually nani ime nian courage kufanya even a lot. So, sida ani kwa ma na stop e nia ya. So, let's talk about the type of music that you do, you do go spell music. Ama ume change, naji opi asipa kukuongel elia trwambi e. Na do go spell, na do go spell. Na do go spell, ya, ya, ya. So, badu ume stick to the road usongi. Nomi ata, ata ni kia, umo jia uko kana kaaji upanda on the road. So, right now, are you an independent artist like kila kitu naji garamia? Yes, yes, yes, yes. Ya ni mini, akuna artist mu independent kuhu enjaka ma mimi. So, for you, a label is anono? For me, kuna watu naa kia, I can't really say no, no, because kuna watu naa fortiliye interview okuna kia, I can't really say no, no, because kuna watu naa fortiliye interview okuna naa kia, kuna watu naa kia, kuna watu wana manage kuhu pelika wasa ni wanyu amesain visuri. So, I can't really say no, no, nika patawasi wanyu tunna ndana, tunna ndana, tunna ndana zawak pamoja, but as of now I think niko sa solo. Let's talk about the modern market. Right now, na patawasi wanyu wanyu create challenges, politic talk, like the way of distributing the songs, i me change kiyasi. Ume adapt kwa yo change unafanya challenges, like take us through your distribution process. So, I can't really say me change kiyasi, but kiyasi, I can't change. Sana, sana, sana Like, the way to look utna fanya music nikiwa ni me say ni wana say different, sana, sana, sana, sana Back then, I don't really think tunna submitizu songs kwa kina Spotify waipi waipi say ni wukondo maatist wana make at least something. Isu story za tiktok, tiktok kwanza, back then tunna tiktok na ita yawa mama, ukuwa unge kwa unge kwa unge kwa ume na uku tiktok tunge kuka nambaya, tiktok automatikali ta fanya kwa platform zote. So, yes, yes, yes atasongi anguna ni moikuna challenge na fanya kwa sana exceptionally so well, like, kwa na expect it tanda iwa. And, ya, so ni me adapt. So, say David Duanda, unesa, are we expecting, like, umesema yo albumen yo li make at that time? You, you're not able to like listen to it at the moment. Are you planning on an EP album? Yes Na plan on EPs, na plan on albums, because ni me kwa ni kirekot well, well should I take these songs out and make one kifanya. So, it's just a matter of planning and kwa ni nizu resources and then videos kwa ready, start oka. So, Wanda, on gospel music, is it really hard for a Kenyan gospel artist kwa break out to the international market? I can't really say that. I can't really say that because me ma li nimi fika, I don't really think kwa ta kuota ovochi na kwa nga kwa India nga kwa dream zeni na kwa nga ziu kujawusiku. So, I can't really say zi, zi zi ekia boundaries ni seme. This is the fact that a gospel artist can go amani ni, amani ni. It all depends, it all depends man wu mungue tuana boundaries na kama kuna, kuna kuna asa ni kama kina sinach o me fikisha 100 million views kwa na kula wizuri, spotify kwa tuwa sekula, siye zi ekia msa niya hote boundary. And do you think being a gospel artist wai na limit sometimes into the kind of business that you do? Like for example, wanda wu keza pata dealia pombil, ne zi fanya? Ya, to be very, just to say man ne zi fanya, like ina limit, ina limit ina limit so much, ina limit so much actually, kuna place wase wa expect wani, oni ata kama ni me pita tuwa po hinge, ita kwa noma, kuna watu, wa say, least left ina asa sema ito na business meeting tuwa kanae pali java msa me fikia picha, like, limitation ina nima wapu kwa gospel. Okay, so also talking about the gospel music to me ona, so many people wali shift from gospel wakanga sekula, but you as David wanda uneza sema ni nini, e me kukip solid to the cause? I think the foundation by the end of the day, between me ona, place ni me piti, mbaka paivi, nifoundation by the end of the day, and I don't, see as this mama ni seme that, what wali shift wakwa na foundation ni ni, maybe ni could try could try greener pastures, but one thing I know, sijumbo na na kwangatuna feeling ah, say, watarudi, like kwangatuna na kuka feeling, I think maybe most of them nima kanao chini and I know they are hearts, na na jua wili wana kwa relationship ya wana God, so na na jua wili story ya prodigol san wacha staki kwenge kwa baibu san na so labda nimi say 2a me moek 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3 wacha nifanya evi, evi, evi, and then but me na jua, like na kwangatuna na kwangatu shuwa kwa heart ah, say watarudi wanda, on to the last question on to kiddo go to, right now how is your relationship with Bahati was he, ali kuchekap this one year nyolukwamsik, like generally how is your relationship? I don't think I have any relationship with Bahati like 2kot 2a provided a kusawa place yukona mumbe hangasana na familiarke 2kosawa see na like atuna relationship ok, wanda tu kimalizia na takau plug yo new song pale director tatu kia pukwa description box 2a me itu taipata wapi, na tu nezaku pata wapi Manu song initua wata onekana featuring the beautiful beautiful nimo inapatikana YouTube yango be there go subscribe and support me na itu devidwanda tv Instagram devidwanda kei Twitter devidwanda FB devidwanda isi pechizote ziko verify so isi koniwe ala fukujo nili liye in box so basically mii watu ama nii nini nimi xs, xs, xs, xs oh si Twitter mii koniwa maa kii na kachap thank you so much for talking to us devidwanda guys that was devidwanda devidwanda the gospel kii hopu melan atingo please make sure you go stream his new jam a lafupia ki release new projects tafadali tafadali just go stream his music my name is Liz Jackson see you on the next one