 Hello everyone my name is Margie Esparza and I normally during the teaching hours wear my hat as a teaching person and I also chair the Centre for Iranian Studies. I'm delighted to welcome you, I only wish that you could actually be at this event on a wonderful campus in a very vibrant, buzzing, energetic, beautiful corner of the magnificent Russell Square in Bloomsbury in London and I hope by the time you join us we will be back on campus. I'm delighted to have several of our colleagues and I think more colleagues will pop in and out. It is a teaching day and because of the different time zones several of our colleagues are actually teaching till 6 p.m. 7 p.m. London time but I hope they'll pop in. I'm delighted to have Professor Wenjin Ooyang who looks after the Arabic section, Dr Yorgos Dedes who is the convener of our most popular in terms of numbers of our master programs at the LCL and his talk will be afterwards. We have Dr Kaya Anjaria who looks after comparative literature. She has a talk, am I right Kaya? I'm not making promises exactly yet. Tomorrow, tomorrow, exactly. We have Professor Hugh Kennedy, an absolute jewel in the crown of the Middle East section of the School of Languages and Cultures. If you want to know anything about early history of the Islamic period and about your caliphs then definitely need to read Professor Kennedy's book and wonderfully Dr Donna Healy who looks after our Southeast Asian department. Her own language specialty is Vietnamese and I should have said Dr Dedes also looks after Turkish. I won't take much of your time. I think you know other colleagues will tell you that basically we wanted to invite you to join us to learn a little bit about the languages that we offer and how they fit in in other programs as one of our guests was already asking almost or not every single master's program but almost all allow students to take a language module. This could be absolutely ab initio, just language that you want to start for the first time or it could be a language that you have studied. At a certain point you would like to carry on with it or for heritage reasons. This is a wonderful opportunity to get us to study that program and also I wanted to tell you when there is a little actually I might do this very quickly while I have this screen to then I thought it's a good opportunity to alert you if you haven't explored the look at our scholarships page also as website. I know I think I actually recognize one name as an applicant that it's well worth looking at this and the reason I flag it up that most of the scholarships deadline is 2nd of April so if you look I mean you know I'm not going to waste your time you can all look at it yourself but you see for example we have the Conron Jam scholarships for MA Iranian studies and the other you know Shapurji, Palangi scholarships for Zoroastrian studies and many more some are subject specific some no are open to it so I wanted you to look at that basically if you just go to soas.ac.uk and then forward slash registry forward slash scholarships and you see it or just search for scholarships so let me invite uh I've stopped sharing this and can I start by first inviting Dr Bedes to just because he convinced our largest master's program and then we could switch a bit maybe Dr Healy could tell us about satisfaction and then we'll come to Professor Ooyang who'll then tell you about Arabic which obviously has a lot more choice in terms of modules available compared to other languages would that be all right your ghost would you be happy to start and I'll keep an eye on the Q&A as well. Thank you very much I will now share my screen have I managed to do it and hopefully you can see this I would like to say a couple of words about the MA in Middle Eastern Studies which is a degree that is offered in a pathway with intensive languages as well the degree on its own the MA in Middle East studies on its own can be a full-time degree over one year or can be taken part-time two over three years which is standard but the exciting aspect of the MA in Middle Eastern Studies in intensive languages is that you could study Arabic with entry at an intensive pace with entry at various levels and Persian and Turkish with entry at beginner level as part of this intensive degree and of course we say the Middle East which is exactly where in the middle of what is an issue that that would be very much central to your studies I think throughout the degree it covers quite a lot of countries depending on different of course institutions the definition varies here you can briefly see the range of countries according to the Library of Congress and it's near eastern section but as I say different institutions offer different definitions but we mainly focus on the area of course that is also known as Mina Middle Eastern North Africa so not just the core countries of the Middle East making sure that of course Turkey is included and stretching as far east as Afghanistan as part of the Persian and Iranian world and in the east and going all the way to Morocco in the west so the key feature of the MA is that it is an interdisciplinary MA and allows you indeed asks you to combine at least three disciplines which you can see listed here oops apologies for that from anthropology to religion and philosophies if you take them alphabetically in in the name of the department at SARS and of course it therefore has a very broad coverage which even extends as the Arabic saying goes seek knowledge even unto China unto China which was of course mainly Central Asia at time but nonetheless we encourage and the degree encourages seeing links between different areas not just the Middle East so the ability to design your own if you will allow me the the native sort of Turkish metaphor your own killing portfolio of forces to make your own design is very much what is the driving force behind the degree you have a maximum freedom to choose units from the list of guided options in the one-year full-time MA in Middle Eastern Studies you have to take 120 credits of courses and a dissertation of 60 credits it's all of course as now is the case most of the course is being 15 credits a combination thereof with any luck managing to divide your load equally between term one and term two the summary of the key features of the degree would include new as from the beginning of next year the introduction of a core in a compulsory unit a core unit a core module that is 15 credits which is not just about the Middle East but about all area studies covered in the languages and cultures department and is of course very much geared towards introducing all students to how the study of different areas have certainly has certainly moved beyond area studies and another compulsory 15 credit course that is titled the Middle East and 10 issues all you wanted or didn't want to know about it but beyond those two the one core and one compulsory courses of 15 credits the key thing as I've said is the ability to mix and match your own courses provided that you have also determined and decided on a choice of major module in relation to which a dissertation is written now the last thing I will say before I hand the floor over to my colleagues is that this degree like all I think the degrees that the languages and cultures and linguistics department offers allows an open option up to 30 credits that is it could even be two 15 credit options taken from any other department's offerings of open options which can be quite a big number of courses but quite intriguingly and interestingly I hope for all of you the ability to take an open option means that you could even study a second language that is as part of the main in Middle Eastern studies on its own not in the intensive track you're allowed to study 30 credits of language but as part of your open option you can study a second language so that is very much an added attraction let's say of that degree now very quickly on the run about the Middle Eastern studies an intensive language pathway the structure of the degree is fairly simple but needs may perhaps I'm taking through in the year one you take 120 credits in total 60 of which are in disciplines and 60 of which are in the language you are studying intensively in the summer of year one you go on the summer abroad where you continue with the intensive study of the language at intermediate level you return to source for your year two for another 60 credits of discipline and another 30 credits of the language studied intensively and of course you also do 60 credits of dissertation so the total is the somewhat unyieldy total of 315 credits rather than the 120 plus 60 180 number of the one year degree but this I hope has given you a very brief outline of what is happening so to repeat we will I will move the floor I will pass the floor on now to colleagues to talk about the other languages but the languages of course that are the main languages of the Middle Eastern Arabic Hebrew Persian and Turkish and they can all be studied as part of the degree and I will stop here and maybe come back later with more information about Turkish before inviting Donna because I know that she's sort of hopping in and out of popping in and out of various sessions Laura could you kindly tell me very quickly if you're able to um if can students actually I don't know is Laura here I think oh there you are yes I'm sorry can a student switch their first and second choice if they have applied for program a as first choice and program b as a backup but now actually would like to switch them around is that possible and we would just advise them to sort of contact admissions if you have already submitted an application and that's one thing to say just briefly for anybody who perhaps hasn't started applying to so ask yet is that you can submit one application per year and as part of that application you'll make a first choice and a second choice in terms of the courses so hopefully that gives you a better idea of what it will look like and if you want to follow up then we would encourage you to get in touch and you'll have those email addresses once you submit your application brilliant that's fantastic I was worried that I've given the wrong answer Donna can I invite you to tell us about Southeast Asian languages and how they fit into our master's program thank you um hello everybody uh my name is Donna Healy and I convene MA Southeast and Pacific Asian Studies program uh this is a new program which we originally had two separate MA programs but we have amalgamated them into one uh joining Southeast Asia and Pacific Asia and for the purposes of this MA program we define uh South Pacific Asia including obviously Korea China and Japan and obviously you know this is a very exciting area region to study it's a very diverse region with a fascinating mix of cultures languages religions and traditions and obviously it's also extremely dynamic fast developing region that is assuming an increasingly important strategic role in global affairs so many of our students obviously actually go into the region and my own expertise in Vietnamese studies you know I can certainly encourage everybody to study Vietnamese studies because you know Vietnam is really uh an upcoming area and for example it's a strategic partner of Britain and there are really many potentials to actually use your expertise and I am not going to repeat you know the sort of former aspects of the program because you know the the structure of all our MA programs is you know similar you know you have the dissertation and then then you have to have the prescribed number of credits in terms of languages on this program you can study on the Southeast Asian side we offer Burmese Thai Indonesian and Vietnamese and on the Pacific Asian side we offer Korean Japanese and Chinese of course I want to just stress that not all of languages are taught every year you know so we would obviously have to check with us which languages are going to be running um and then obviously we have compulsory modules we obviously are encouraging students to take some of the literature and the modules that are based in the School of Languages and Cultures and then obviously you go and select the other modules from our department's discipline departments depending on what is your major interest you obviously then select module from that particular area so the combinations obviously include really all the departments around so-asso anthropology, art, development, studies, economics really depending on your interests we have a new core module which is culturally mapping area studies in Asia, Africa and Middle East and so all students on this program will have to take this module what else can I tell you obviously you can study this program either full-time or you can obviously study it as a part-time version either over two years or even over three years which gives you a little bit of freedom especially if you are already working and you want to obviously follow this program while also you know working we always design this program with a high level of flexibility because we really want to allow students to put together you know the program in a way that actually reflects their interests but also their career sort of plans I think that's probably all as a way of introduction and I am obviously happy to take any questions wonderful again I see we have four colleagues from the Arabic section so before that if they would indulge me for a couple of more minutes I thought Kea could you tell us just about how languages fit into MA comparative literature please obviously a crucial element of students would like to take it up okay yeah so I think like most of the MA programs in our department for MA comparative literature you can you take 30 credits of a language but we also offer a really sort of an array of specialist language courses that are either sort of bi-lingually done or in translation we also offer sort of disciplinary courses and as well which are not language specific not region specific but if you are interested in doing a literature intensive degree and MA comparative literature can accommodate you as well and although not to say that we're in competition with the other programs so as you know yeah well anyway competition is healthy but of course we support each other as well so wonderful so I have professor Ooyang, professor Hugh Kennedy, Mr. Mohamed Saeed and Dr. Nada Elzeer here from Arabic section the presence of four colleagues alone lets you know that we Arabic department is quite large so I don't know how you would like to introduce it I'll leave it to whoever speaks first well shall I start off yeah yeah so if you come in and when you need to unmute you so you do this yeah should I do a quick powerpoint uh to show the kind of uh modules we have courses we have shall I do that let me do that why not yeah you could uh the only thing is uh how do I do this okay on top so how do I play this right on top normally there is um I don't use slideshow slideshow that's it yeah that's it and then now you go okay so very quickly um I think uh I want to tell you more something about the Arabic courses the study of Arabic at Sawas and particularly in sort of the two-year MA discipline and intensive Arabic you have heard from my colleague both Dr. Dedes and Dr. Healy about the structure of the program so I will not you know go over that but you can see see it in front of you as well um but for Arabic uh because Arabic is uh is relatively uh uh large uh you can enter into into the program through multiple entry points uh and we before you you you are placed into to uh an Arabic module we give you a placement test during the welcome week so for let's say MA XY discipline and intensive language you can enter as a beginner or at the intermediate level or at the advanced level um we if you enter at the beginners level uh you will do uh right Arabic one in term one Arabic two in term two if you enter uh sorry uh sort of the pictures are in my way intermediate level you'll do either Arabic 3a 15 credits or and b right or Arabic 4a and b right um and you'll right so these will be 30 credits and you need 30 more credits so you do classical Arabic about 15 credits and then Arabic dialects 15 credits um or you can enter at Arabic 5a right um Arabic and Arabic 5 or Arabic 60 more most advanced level a and b and you can do with these translation and language based modules right um or right you can also do uh sorry I move something um uh sorry sorry sorry uh you you can do uh translation projects which are at various levels which are 30 degrees 30 credits um and here is the list of our Arabic modules at SAAS on your left you see the language modules Arabic 1 30 credits in term one Arabic 2 30 credits in term two Arabic 3a 15 Arabic 3b right 15 terms 1 and 2 and we go up to Arabic a Arabic 6a and 6b right and we also offer language based modules uh the most advanced level is practical translation from Arabic 15 and into Arabic 15 or we have the translation projects we have modules like Quran and Hadid studies reading classical Arabic historians which is taught by my good colleague professor Hugh Kennedy and politics and aesthetics in modern Arabic literature and these are modules right uh taught right with reading primary texts in Arabic should we a good point I'm conscious of this destination and for summer just a second for sorry sorry for summer abroad so far we have two destinations you go between mid-June and mid-August to study Arabic for eight weeks right one destination is in Amman Jordan a Qasid Arabic Institute and I have provided the link here so you can look up the place and the other one is in Najjah Arabic Institute which is in Nablus in Palestine um so that's it for now brilliant thank you so much I'm glad you put that and of course yes you can get in touch with us for other yearable destinations you know Persian would be in northeast Iran Turkey I think probably has Istanbul and maybe Ankara as well I don't know so I'm conscious of the questions building up we will come back to your questions so professor Kennedy you were going to tell us yes I was just going to follow on from what my good colleague Gawen Chinouyan has been talking about the structure of the courses and so on but to say that one of the things that you're open to you when you come to Zahir is looking at a rich culture of classical studies in the various languages all the main languages we're talking about Arabic Persian and Turkish are very rich classical literatures which have developed through the centuries and are very important to the culture of those countries and so on what we can do here at Zahir which other institutions maybe can't is to give you the opportunity to look at some of these classical civilizations and see not just what's being spoken and talked about now which is of course very important very central to lots of people's concerns but also the rich tradition that lies behind it and I think that's something you because we're a fairly large scale operation we can offer that richness and diversity that possibly other universities can't not that I've got anything extra the university of course but I think wonderful wonderful and can I invite Nader and Muhammad Sayyid as well please to just tell us about Arabic classes are quite large aren't they with especially a main intensive Arabic is a very popular pathway and generally you have quite a lot of masters students joining Arabic courses yeah Muhammad would you perhaps you could I don't know if Nader can hear me now after my two esteemed colleagues there isn't any more to say except about the placement test for students applicants who have a background in studying Arabic the placement test usually takes place during the registration week and what we are looking for in the placement test is the learning and the you know the background in learning Arabic as as a foreign language it's not enough to have you know traveled in the Arab world or you can chat in Arabic we want to see how much you learned in order to allocate you to the right level you can see from what Professor Royang listed we have six levels and we we want to be careful not to put somebody in an easy level nor in a higher level so the placement test is a serious test which takes place in the registration week and it's better if students come to it unprepared because if prepared they might show kind of false level and we concentrate mainly on seeing how much modern standard Arabic they know it's not enough as I said to to to be able to speak Arabic it's a modern standard Arabic level they have achieved during their previous studies I think that's enough my colleagues and we can always come back I just I want to intercept but answering two questions here one is from Scott who asks about travel once the travel restrictions are lifted about is it safe to when it is safe to travel for passion Scott one of the things that we should have said that we have to follow the FCDO's advice so the foreign and common wealth and you know common development office now it doesn't matter what nationality you have it doesn't matter what passport our students travel on it doesn't matter whether they can go from say Spain to the destination if the British foreign office restricts travel to that destination you will not be allowed to go and of course with a country like Iran we are the mercy of the visa being issued or not for Iran when hopefully when everything is going well we have chosen the third of C university of the second or third largest university in Iran in Mashhad in northeast Iran for a whole host of reasons weather is better Iran can get quite polluted in winter it has a nicer campus a more held together campus rather than scattered over a mega city of you know some 18 million residents and very easy to travel you know our students have gone there they take the overnight train to Tehran if they begin to pine for parties and raves and so on so at the moment it's a mashhad but you know I assume you know politics of Iran make travel occasionally difficult we have other ideas we are exploring we have had a student that went to Tajikistan but we don't have a contract with a partner in Tajikistan while most of our partners scattered around we actually have a you know agreement with but it's a moving feast that we visit and there was another question I wanted to ask from Eriah that you were asking about demographics of our students postgraduate students are their professionals absolutely we have retired ambassadors who would now like to catch up with their postgraduate studies or because of the region they have served in they want to study at length we have as you said students who may have worked for a few years after their first degree and students who have followed on immediately from an undergraduate degree to a first graduate the spectrum is massive and when you arrive you will see that there's quite a mixture very global very international so it makes I'm going to stop the questions and I was going to invite Alice to tell us give us some inside information dear Alice tell us what you have been studying at Surat. Hi so I'm Alice and I study Arabic I just wanted to give everyone like a brief quick overview of sort of what the course is like I went in from a complete beginner I'm I am currently an undergrad but my class that I'm in is a mixture of undergrad and postgraduate as well but yeah so I'm on the intensive Arabic and going from a complete beginner now looking back in the last two years I've been able to you know write my own work in Arabic I've been able to sort of have conversations that I was not having at the beginning and I think if you sort of put in the work and you're willing to set aside those hours and the progress really does pay off and it's so good to watch your progress and also with the modules sort of using your knowledge of Arabic in other modules and it makes everything a lot easier once it strings together but yeah so any if anyone has any questions about like specifically that they want to know then please put them in the chat and I can try my best to answer. Wonderful that's fantastic Nader I kind of Dr El-Zil can you hear me I can't I noticed that your yes I can I just wasn't sure whether my colleague was going to take the question or not yeah no we we could do that but if it's about you've been teaching Arabic for a long time here at various levels and I think masters students yes just any insight anything you'd need to flag up for our you asked about the size of classes earlier so the the plenary so we have two types of classes we have plenary lectures and we have tutorials and the plenary lecture is what everybody would be together but the tutorial groups are quite small actually you can expect between 10 to 15 students what can I tell the MA students usually our MA students do very well yeah they yes they certainly enjoy a lot and they achieve a high level and many of them will already have done Arabic before so they will be placed in another level some of our MA students are currently in the highest level Arabic module that we offer even though they are just in there in their second year so yes so we are able to accommodate all levels and they all they all manage to do very well fantastic yes for other if just for other non-Arabic modules usually there are beginners and intermediate courses however if you have if for example you have done BA whatever Persian or Turkish already and you might think the modules available are not advanced you know for you of course in Turkish you could consider doing Ottoman for example or there are modules called for example directed readings which then allow you to use the language expertise that you have required to focus on text these are usually sessions where you have a supervisor and you agree what you are going to focus your reading on and then you write an essay so you use the materials in the targeted language I would like to invite colleagues now to answer some questions so if I start with one Dr Dedes for you you mentioned Middle Eastern studies allows students to take two languages have you already applied to Anne I haven't replied I click to my mistake the answer live which is just as well but and but I can tell Anne if she's still here that whether the degree allows you to take 30 credits of languages part of the language so to speak entitlement and the second language is up to the discipline degree in the MA in Middle Eastern studies you could do that but in an MA in migration and diaspora studies I don't think you would be allowed to do that you would be allowed to take a maximum of 30 credits of language for that MA now if you're talking about the MA migration and diaspora studies and intensive Arabic then of course as part of your intensive Arabic you would study more than just 30 credits but you would still not be able to do 30 credits or any credits in another language as part of that combination diaspora migration diaspora studies and intensive Arabic so I'm afraid that option would not be available if your discipline degree is in migration and diaspora studies absolutely a question very pertinent question from Shahbaz Ahmad I'm glad you typed that in that you say in respect to an MA with intensive language can I please ask about the costings of the summer intensive program this is a two-year full-time program so you pay the fees which is used for one year times two so it would be whatever whether it's a home student or overseas students it will be times two but the summer programs fees are included in your the fees that you have paid so you do not pay the university because that you've already done it by signing up for the two-year in a full-time program however your living expenses at your destination is up to you there are some languages that have foundations that give travel grant it very much depends on what language you choose some destinations are very very cheap if you're spending hard currency for example Iran is incredibly cheap some destinations for you know Japan for example is they are not relatively speaking in terms of living costs but you don't pay an extra fee for your summer abroad that's already part of the three-year fees that you pay and Neva Moliar I don't maybe Dana has been answering you I don't know if Dana has or not hello I'm looking to platform MA Anthropology in intensive languages from my understand not all the languages are available every year how when we would be able to very soon Neva I very much hope that usually by the end of this term which is in two weeks time but you know the world is turned on its head so it may not be till during the Easter vacation or certainly in terms three so towards the end of April we will have a list of languages that are on offer not every single language that we offer at SOAS offers an intensive thing I think yogurt scan or Dana can correct me am I right not every language is available as an intensive as a two-year intensive yeah yes it depends I mean obviously most of our languages are taught and around every year especially obviously the large languages like Arabic and obviously the East Asian languages etc but from some of the smaller languages African languages or Southeast Asian languages we may not be able to run every language every year so we already know what we are teaching next year so if I speak just for the Southeast Asia then we will be teaching Indonesia and Vietnamese and we will not be offering Burmese and Thai next year that obviously does not mean that we are not going to teach these languages but we are not offering them next year that's right and sometimes some colleagues you know teach several languages so if that colleague goes on you know sabbatical leave research leave you know various languages can get paused in the Middle East as Dr Dede said Arabic Hebrew Persian and Turkish will be offered next year for South Asian languages and African I recommend you visit the website Jack champion has a question I'm not sure I should care may have answered this flexible language module have you answered chaos I don't need to read oh no I did the same thing and hit the wrong button so Jack asked that I'm excited about flexible language module opportunities if you have lived in a specific country for some time is it easy to change your module to match your current level yes for that part if if the language at that level is available Jack so for example if it's in Arabic absolutely as Nada said you know from complete beginner to advanced almost native speaker some other languages no but again the opportunity of look out for directly readings I know that we have it in the Middle East department which allows you to use the language at the level you have and you've also said also any modules concerning classical or literary Japanese available this year I suggest that we are it's very strange that the Japanese Chinese Korean are not housed in school of languages and cultures and linguistics do check the website and please write so they are in the school of East Asian studies so I urge you to write to find the convener of Japanese or Chinese and ask them but they usually are last time I checked there are classical modules in that I just come in here please sorry also just to say that if you're interested in doing something across the two departments there are three programs cultural studies MA cultural studies MA comparative literature and MA postcolonial studies which actually allow you to do languages in East Asian languages and cultures as well so so if you did want for example focus on the Middle East and and Arabic or Africa and so on but you also wanted to take a module in Japanese or two you could you could do it that way and so that it's not totally cut off but the obviously our language-based area studies here are catered to our department fantastic a question from Caroline before I go to Horwitz from Caroline for Dr. Dedes I'm interested did you answer I have not answered but I can quickly tell you Caroline but I'm pretty sure the MA religion and politics does allow 30 credits of language so you could you could engage in study of Turkish yes or indeed any other language you want it but certainly Turkish too yeah brilliant how were you all said can I be considered the Pocombra and Jam Scotia in every social anthropology and intensive yes I think if you have the Persian intensive Persian yes um so normally at master's level it's open to um in the religions it's when you do Zoroastrianism but definitely put in an application it's highly competitive but if it is with the intensive Persian yes we have had students who've applied from history and intensive Persian history of art and intensive Persian that allows you you are qualified for that and Rome and also the certificates in languages um do these all begin at complete beginner level with a repository and intermediate for some of our certificate programs yes um because there there is an intermediate level so again I suggest that if you know I know for Persian that if you are at the you know intermediate upper intermediate level again as Mr Mohammed Said said there will be an assessment of your level um you can do that then there will be a language use module and your doctor Dennis tell me what were you going to say sorry sorry to have interrupted I just wanted to say that we normally recommend people who are considering a certificate to think seriously about possibly doing an MA instead they usually are well qualified for it um um either having had an earlier degree and it may be worth their time the dissertation is of course um a little bit extra to requirements um in this case but um completing all the courses of an MA allows you to end up with a postgraduate diploma which usually is quite um suitable um and indeed is actually preferable to the certificate so um Andrew you may want to consider and I'm happy to talk to you separately or whatever they say possibility of doing the MA in the languages you want and so on um and the fees are the same available level would be possible yes and the fees are the same so um I might know yes I think so there is no um um I reckon I ask roughly how much time studying modern standard Arabic students will usually have had to do to start the intensive Arabic MA from an intermediate level um which colleague would like to answer I will I will answer this it is the equivalent of our 60 credits i.e. the equivalent of a full academic year of kind of eight to ten hours per week a full academic year between eight to ten hours per week that is equal our 60 credits in the first year that will put the applicant in the position to be okay in level three of course uh some applicants are faster and they can accumulate faster so the placement test might they might think they are going to level three they may go to level four but anything less than the equivalent of 60 credits is difficult to join level three directly fantastic thank you Mohammed Scott your question I'm actually during this holiday I am going to review what other destinations we might have Tajikistan obviously there's an element of the script or we would like our students to be immersed fully so the script is in Cyrillic but in Dushanbe who absolutely will learn Persian and the classes that are run you do both Tajiki Persian and Farsi Persian in terms of um uh with biome is right to me separately my email is n for November f for Freddie number numeral one and so as and I can tell you about resources and um uh this was um in order to improve your level and if you've done something and what level will you reach well our current may x uh with intensive Persian who are not completing their second year so unfortunately they could not travel the summer gone they were not allowed to go to Iran as you can imagine after China Iran was the next hotbed and continues to be in fact Iran is not allowing anyone traveling to the country especially not with the the english virus so uh if you're going from here however as you quite rightly say it depends how much private studies they are almost at advanced level despite the fact that the summer was online with you know just online teaching so you really you get a lot of bang for your bucks when you do Persian it's already you know an in new european language and especially if you put in your hours you will get I very much hope we can go to Iran um but um we'll see we'll have to you know um look in our magic world and see where the virus is when the rarest head makes um and um waters have I left any questions as colleague have I missed anyone out here and did you um doctor did this mean yes you referred to and you replied to and in translation yes and I think I uh replied to shown that um the level for ma translation has to be uh advanced uh so not pitch perfect but you really are should be able to translate all sorts of materials in fact I'm sorry that I understand that the ma translation master class was running while we were here but please you write so Dr. Burchin Mustafa visit the webpage you will see uh and I believe there is a level specified for the um I think um the name has slightly changed the name of the module is practical translation from English into a uh something language while while you are look it up we've just changed the name of some modules but you do need to be at lower advanced I would imagine certainly upper intermediate before you to interrupt Nargis but um the next session is actually about to start so I think we we might be having such a good time really so please you've met us all you'll find us on the website do visit the website fire off email so all of us and if we can't answer we'll pass you to the right person it's such a crazy time end of term you might have to send your email twice before we you know come up for air and do it so do not forget Dr. yogurt status Dr. Donna Healy Professor Wenjin Ooyang Professor Hugh Kennedy Dr. Nada Elvir Dr. Dr. Mr. Mohammed Saeed and your most obedient faithful servant Nargis for that here do stay in touch please and if I apologize if we missed out your questions do send them back again and we popped Nargis' email in the chat event one and if you can't find where to send it my email is there feel free to send it there and we will make sure that it gets to the right person in the department absolutely and Laura will make sure we reply she'll be an unforgiving master disciplinary make sure we answer wonderful enjoy the rest of our events you may leave this and if you're interested in the Middle East do follow Dr. Dennis in ether and head to his talk and Dr. Andara tomorrow and have I missed any other FLCL master classes do do check on our web shows I believe I think that's it I think I mean the Africa has been done South Asia follows this as well I believe so do come back and visit our other events and hope to see you on campus for the final event bye bye stay safe and take care thank you Laura thank you everyone