 Good morning. It's our last day here in the LA studios for now and it's casual Wednesday. Run it back starts now And welcome to run it back Shamsherania Chandler Parsons Eddie Gonzalez we Full sweats today. Just killing the game. Just killing the game We're dressing like we're still at home and I'm kind of proud of us for not Swing off off our brands At all but look we got to get right to it because there was some basketball that was played last night I mean you could call it basketball was a little bit odd, but Kings just went an absolute blowout of the Nets 153 points Does this say more about the Kings and by the way being team back in effect? Does it say more about them or the Nets like what do I do with this? I mean, I feel like it's more about the Kings and we talked about the Nets so much and it's exhausting the Kings to me This is this was their chance. They're finally on national TV And they got their chance to absolutely punk and embarrass the Nets last night It really just showed how deep they are this guy's a bonus can do it all. He's an absolute monster He's getting the rebound. He's going coast-to-coast Fox is creating. They got guys like Trey Lyles Tarence Davis Had a hell of a game. I'm sitting here. I couldn't help but sit here and watch this game last night thinking that After Kevin Durant the next six out of seven best players on the floor. We're all on the Kings. That's crazy to say out loud It's crazy, but it's true and I'm happy for them Like we always talk about they had the longest throughout they're thirsty to get in the playoffs and last night kind of showed their Potential of how good they can be when they're clicking. It was kind of fun to see the Kings fan base just Partying the way they were but Eddie, I know I'm not happy No, um, yeah, I think it does say more about the Kings. We talked about the Nets all week We talk about every week. Don't worry. We're gonna get to them again This is a little bit of what we've known of the Nets. They're talent depleted They have issues, but the Kings what they built in the offseason what they built in the last few years I'm talking about it yesterday. It's starting to show their team makes sense They have a quick point guard who can run their offense They have the modest of bonus who can be an offensive hub who can get every rebound on the floor They had they've spread out with shooters as well. They've drafted Keegan Murray who looking at the greatest game yesterday But you see the talent you see his ability It's a good team finally well now how that plays out throughout the season sure if they sacramental it up We don't know but it's a team that actually makes sense and actually has talent and they have not had that in years No, that used to be said people don't know this kids don't this that was a fun place to go to games two decades It's just been a minute, but we do need to talk about the Nets where you're contractually obligated to talk about the Nets apparently And specifically today make it that way. I mean it feels like it Ben Simmons. Where are we? What's what's the latest? So Ben Simmons actually returned yesterday after missing Sunday's game He got scratched with a knee, but you know, he played pretty solid I thought it was a step forward for him the first time he scored double-digit points Michelle since June 2021 so He has that going and I think if you're able to take any type of solace it's that but over the last several weeks There's been a build-up of frustration and concern around the organization when you talk about from players coaching staff and even organizationally on on him his availability his level of play And even his passion and how much he has of that his intensity of that to get on the floor and compete at a high level He has the back surgery from May. Sure. He did get his knee drained about a week about two weeks ago So listen, there are some physical attributes and we saw he had a dunk last night He has a ways to go physically as well But I think there's definitely some stuff that he can't control that Nets what whether it's organizationally Teammates are all showing and that's something that has stood out that will be an issue for the next moving forward He did address all I mean he did talk about this stuff yesterday about how he hears it And he thinks that maybe should get a little more slack and get anybody else to understand I don't I don't know what to do with Ben Simmons Sometimes I feel like Ben Simmons loves the lifestyle the NBA provides him But doesn't love to do the stuff you have to do to be great at it And maybe I'm crazy for thinking that it just looks that way to my civilian eyes. Is that possible? It Feels like it really does and the guy had a year off, which I did give him a slack early on that We're getting now we're into the season now and this guy is just not figuring it out. He's not getting better He's got a real mental block where He's scared to fail and I think half of this the times he's settling It's cuz he doesn't want to give out. He doesn't want to get to the free-throw line. He's scared shitless. Sorry To get to the board to get to the free-throw line and it's what happened to the six ten two forty coast to coast Magic Johnson s diamond people like the swag the arrogance. I I hope he can find that but it's it's it's mind-boggling And it's it's kind of sad to watch where he is like last night. I'm watching the game in Van Gundy's Gassing how he's playing. It's a max multi all-star and we're gassing like him doing what he double digits for the first time since Right, that's 20 to me is a scrub that we got double digits. This isn't rock bottom I don't know what is the team's losing the team needs help. He's not figuring it out The team wants to succeed to succeed Yeah, I mean you're right, I mean Kevin Durant, you know, we'll see what happens with this future Kyrie Irving He's in the last of his deal Ben Simmons has two years and almost 80 million dollars on his contract after this season I want to take as much house as I can in last night's game. Hopefully that's a step forward for him and in that team, but Last night if that's a stepping stone, that's that's never been like this iso guy go get a bucket one dribble pull-up step Like he's never been that But he's he's been more he now he just gets the ball He gets rid of it as soon as he can or he just dribbles into a dribble handoff and goes to the dunker and hopefully He gets an easy layup and doesn't get fouled like that as I I don't understand what happened and I don't know if it's mentor physical, but I am I'm confused Yo, so if you brought me a dribble handoff seven times a game and then Because you're stinking it up. It's a trap every time I get the ball. I'd be a little frustrated with you, too I understand 100% believe a report like they have to be frustrated fans are frustrated They look frustrated on the court and then he misses games and then they're dealing with all of that He out at the players only meeting or whatever it was. He spoke about it again yesterday Have you ever had a teammate speak about a player's only meeting to the media? No, there's a reason why There's just certain things you do not do man and and again with the way he's playing He's got no wiggle room or room for air on the other stuff on the off the course So if he's not working hard if he's not the first one of the gym if he's going out He's coming in hungover like he's doing anything like that. He's just digging his grave deeper. What is his vibe? I mean you see them more than anyone like it. I mean friends with other guys on the team Do they hate or is he sort of he's like the coolest guy ever? Yeah, okay, it's like kind of crazy because you know Look, I don't want to say he's not working hard. He's not focusing whatever But when you see a guy who who's kind of carrying himself like he is the best player in the world You kind of want to see him be the best player in the world or close to it I feel for him a little bit because I do think it is a mix of everything I do think there's a bit of a mental block like Chandler said I also think he's not healthy and not back to his peak athleticism. You can see that the dunk You mentioned he had a dunk in the first preseason game against the Sixers and it was like yo It's exciting. He got a dunk on the fast break, but he barely got up and he barely got it in He's missed a few dunks. He's missed a few He's air ball to layup and again, so it's like there is a little bit of all of this there But if you're the team you're going hey, we're paying you thirty five million dollars, you know We're paying Kyrie Irving thirty seven million dollars. We're paying Joe Harris eighteen million dollars doesn't look like himself We were heavily invested in you overcoming this and You know for me biased as I am I watched Kevin recover from an Achilles and come back and be better exactly And so I have almost no sympathy for like yo, you were hurt and you've had ample time to recover And you should have recovered, you know, the thing that's also interesting He's gone from literally their starting point guard the guy that's running the offense playmaking Distributing pushing the pace to the back of five in 15 games I mean that type of role change like I'm sure it's tough on him I wonder how he took coming off the bench But there's there's a lot there in terms of role and expectation that they had going into the season that clearly like I'm gonna be critical of that too because In putting him in that role they've put him in the best position. He can thrive. Okay, you're playing against backups You're you're gonna have the ball in your hand. We're gonna surround you with shooters They've had seen the matchup that it would Nick Klaxon. It's the worst pairing in the league And it's like all season long from the very beginning They've built this team in a way to compensate for him has been it to maximize been instead of maximizing Kevin Durant And we did best player in the world because they're just assuming what Kevin knows what he's we don't even worry about right He's a luxury. He's not our centerpiece and they've suffered for it and now he's upset because they're still doing it But just not in a way he likes I don't buy that like you're playing in this way So this is what we're gonna do that we think is best for you because at the end of the day That's what it is. We have to get the most out of him We can so like we do it from 12 minutes off the bench against backup bigs And so yeah, I get like the ego of it, but yo, this is for you Yeah, that's that's the biggest problem for a guy like him though When you take him out of that role and that all-star stardom level to put him up the bench That's that's almost more damaging to a guy like him than just letting him rock and letting him feel like a starter and a critical Part of the team now him. I think this mentally hurts him and puts him even in a darker place now They don't believe in me now. I'm not starting. Oh my goodness At some point you just have to do your job Let me know it's a celebration. That's I I want to ask you Chandler And I do want to get to Kevin Durant in a minute, but look a lot of the individual sports guys They have very specific sports psychologists like we should all have therapists on our own like that's a thing, right? But a sports psychologist when they have the yips or they just think they're in their own way, whatever Are we doing that if we're Ben Simmons? Yeah for that alone Also, every team pretty much has somebody some sort of resource some outlet You can go and talk to it's completely confidential and and you could do that. Maybe not completely. I was gonna say But this that's only a part of it this this psychiatry this person is not out there on the court with him This person's not playing in front of 20,000 people so you can talk you can do all the things you want You can air out you can get things off your chest, but at the end of the day He's scared of his physical skill set. He's scared to shoot the basketball He's scared to go to the free throw line and and if that's if this isn't rock bottom I don't know I don't know what else to do with him. You started me bring off the bench. He doesn't play he plays He's on the minute restriction there the nets that got it soon is gonna be like do much What else can we do for you? It's too much. Yeah, it's not new either This was going on in Philadelphia that him shooting threes became a thing like he was refusing to shoot threes And to the point where when he did his grounds give him standing ovations Like he's the equipment manager on senior night like it's like a walk-on getting in the game and they're rallying Oh, this is not it's crazy because if you go look at his Mount Verde film like he's shooting full of threes He's doing all this insane stuff. So it's like we had some of the happened Something happened. It broke. It's the gym the aliens came they took his that's how it feels It's how it looks. It's how it looks been abducted from the inside by the way this start I'm going to ask this every show for the rest of our lives Should we can we will we trade Kevin Durant? They should I mean he would I can't have a rotting out there forever as a thing He's too good. He's too good to trade. He's too good. It's about maximizing the value, right? And like they had in the summertime, you know a few offers, but highlighted the biggest offer was Jalen Brown Derek White in the first shot pick I think if they had negotiated you could have gotten more than just that that was only one of the initial offers that The Celtics had made so is there is it possible to go back to that? Well, I'm not sure the Celtics are probably playing too Well, they have too much invested at this point in the season in Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum So I it's it's tough for me to see a pack as that makes sense And right now the Nets do seem like they're all in on this season and that makes it tough Like what's I don't is this season turn around a ball like it feels Kyrie coming back and being a top five player in The NBA is the only way they have a chance and I still don't think they're gonna the the days of putting a star or two stars around Ten non NBA players it doesn't work teams are too talented The league is too talented teams that are deep and have the depth and the size and that that is the key to success town You see the teams that do that. It's not the one-two guys again surrounded by the two-way players It's just not that's not a recipe for success anymore, and that's what the Nets are doing That's what the Lakers are doing, and it's it's like old-fashioned feeling Yeah, it's two defenses are too good the analytics the film everything everything is now They know how to kind of rattle Kevin Doreen He's still gonna get his 30 still gonna go 40 and they're gonna make these other guys beat them I mean they can't the team they played last night Sacramento. Exactly. There's not super stars and then a couple like Sacramento And he's Kings by the way Jalen Brown not the biggest Josiah fan as we know now Yo, is that even a thing much that's the issue with trading Kevin That's the issue they had this summer. That's all the stuff They stared in the face if we break this down right now the best way to get assets is to trade Kevin away That's why they wanted astronomical amount of picks. That's why they watch the room to go bear trade and said oh We can top that but not only do they want pigs they wanted stars, too They wanted like Memphis Phoenix those those teams offered four or five first round picks Minnesota put four or five first round picks on the table for Kevin Durant before they got ready to go bear So there were offers made there were a bunch of picks presented But they wanted what anyone would probably want for Kevin Durant, which is they wanted the stars I feel like true serum. I wonder if they regret it This is their opportunity to break it down because you let Kyrie leave for nothing if you keep him till the summer This is your chance. You're probably looking at a new coach this summer who knows about the GM This is your opportunity to collect all the assets. You can't cash out and build your next river. Are they gonna do it? Kevin's too good Kevin is too good Kevin. Stop being good for two months But look if happens if he sits out if I'm New Orleans, I'm hoping that he doesn't play. He loves basketball too That's the thing. I don't even wire that way, right? He won't yeah, there's just He just loves basketball. It is what it is the league knows it. It's fine Everybody said it all summer the most while he's looking like he's having fun. It's just unfortunate the team Also from the outside looking into this guy Kevin Durant is such a hooper and loves it That's probably even more why he's pissed off at Ben Simmons who doesn't seem like he loves it And it's too it's opposite ends of the spectrum there with those two guys Well, you can make the argument with Kyrie too exactly say he could look at Kyrie Like you don't love it like I love it like there's always something with you. You're not available. So It's it's a lot going on there and look he's asked out before it's not a report leave me alone But he's asked out before Shams told the world but you know it push may come to shove again and This is the time truth be told. This is the time. This is the only time you get something for Kyrie You're not getting anything for Ben or if you do it's going to be very low returns on what you gave up to get them It's they have to explore you have to do the worst this season gets you out the more you have to explore You men are so dramatic Truly there's always something with you guys. I don't know how you make it through the day Another game Luca played his favorite team in the league the Los Angeles Clippers had 35 had a big three-pointer at the end This is a team that he seems to love playing against because he torches them every time 32 points every single time minimum How do you explain like a player that has an opponent that he just thrives against and did you have one when you play? Not like this guy does know this this is weird to me too because the Clippers are such a Tough matchup for him. They have five six guys that can switch. They got smaller guys I can get under them. They got big guys that can move their feet and stay in front of them They got wings that can switch and and create just kind of havoc for him And it doesn't it doesn't bother him and that's what's so special about Luca is when you put a smaller guy on him when you put a stronger guy a faster guy It never speeds him up. He plays with this his pace. He holds you off He's a lot bigger when you see him in real life and and there's nothing he can he can't do and but I see hold There's a lot of holes in the map seem to they had one guy last night on the bench score And it was Christian Wood One guy and they had guys like Reggie Bullock, Dorian Finney Smith the gator had seven threes last night So those are the guys are gonna have to step up, but one guy on your bench scoring Yeah, if Kawai is out there. That's not that's not how that plays out, right? Figure something else out shout out Luca for shishing the home team All right, bro, like you got your locked in I get it, but yeah, he clearly takes these matchups personal He's played them in the playoffs. He's been down came back against them all 3-1 come back Yeah, I mean some of sometimes It's it's kind of like in the NFL quarterbacks don't play defensive play defensive coordinators Like Lucas mostly playing Tai Lu out there and he knows how they're coming at him and he knows what to do and he's taking it Personally and and on the flip side. I think the Clippers they need Kawai Leonard today I wonder how much fatigue that organization and in the roster you could just out because going into the year You saw Paul George come out with comments that you know Kawai is the number one. I'm cool being the number two It's like everything the whole season was kind of geared toward kiss of death when he said the return of Kawai and And and obviously a lot of optimism about trying to win a championship this year and just him not being in the lineup I wonder how much fatigue is set in because This is a team that wanted him to be there and wants him there full-time and so when he's not it's like Oh, this is deja vu. We're doing this all over again for Paul George. He's back in that number one seat And I think he had 10 turnovers last night So you could tell defenses are continuing to gear toward him and he needs Kawai back because we have no idea I know Kawai went on this trip, right? So that's a that's a sign play five-on-five reason Which is usually a step, you know chairman of the last step You do a couple of five-on-fives and you and you get back on the floor, but they don't I mean They're very good at sort of hiding their cars like we have no idea. I don't know what's coming back I mean, I'm fatigued by wondering when Kawai is gonna be out there and I have no investment in this whatsoever But it's like as a team again your best player You don't know when you have him and you and the thing is and I don't want to be cynical But I am when he does come back how long does he stay for? Because now we're kind of used to Kawai not playing more than he plays which I hate to say It's a roller coaster and again the guy's role has changed based on whether he's in the lineup And or he's not and so it's tough when a guy of that key of the offense and defense is in and out It's tough to adapt and it's tough to learn on the fly But I mean it's they just got to have the next man up mentality and like Batum last night He played very very well. They actually got a lot out of their bench with John Wall and Batum and guys like that But it's for them to take that next step and be a contender They need Kawai to be at that all-star level and it's tough to see him there when he's not on the floor Maybe someday holidays are coming up a couple of these teams need to be sending presents to the Nets because they're flying Under the radar with all the things going on the Nets are just so dramatic. Yeah, it's it's I know I agree I'm nice nice gift to Joe sighs and I'm something I think he can afford pretty much anything He needs to buy for himself one of the games I think to me these are the two of the more fun teams to watch Memphis and New Orleans New Orleans beating them No Zion CJ McCullum seemed to sort of spring out of his his slump that he was in he had 30 points Also had a moment where he got angry, which was very odd to see him do that But as far as CJ and his role to this Pelican squad, how important is he? Well, he's the nominal point guard for them, you know for a team that doesn't have great point guards He's gonna be their playmaker along with Brandon Ingram He also has a ton of playoff experience with that team lacks and so he's you know He's huge for them and what he can do off the bounce He's got such a pretty game and he's able to ability to shoot off the bounce It they're gonna need that late game as team zero in on bi as teams For Zion to go right force him to shoot jumpers. They're gonna need that He's done it. He's he's hit a game winner in game seven on like this is a guy You can trust late in a playoff game and especially a game like this when Zion is out, right? CJ is the guy him and bi they're gonna have to share They're gonna have to get the the majority of the points and he's been struggling lately And it was great to see him kind of have that coming out coming out game and have the bounce back game because you know When they're healthy, I mean listen, I kind of feel like they've kind of been a little disappointing this year But when they're healthy, this is a team that I don't want to see Larry Nance was great last night Alvarado is such a pest. I love very I love their young guys This is a very very interesting team and and CJ is a huge part to their success on the other side job around 36 points Bane's out. So I know people have started talking about Is job, I mean, he's obviously amazing, but is he enough to carry a team when necessary? Uh, yeah, I think for sure. I think he's he's about as dynamic as you can get And I think Desmond Bain is the perfect fit for him We're spacing the floor shooting the ball. They're getting they got jaren jackson back last night, which is gonna help Um, but yeah, joc can do it all he he needs to get his teammates involved a little bit more But he is must-see tv. He is so explosive. He they're watching some of the highlights that he did last night were absolutely video game Um, and that was insane like that that that anticipation and just And then the finish too, you know, he's he's like a mix of everything like I would pay to watch it Russ, this is behind the back. I it's I can't believe Larry Nantz continued to run and keep all his ligaments intact this move right here Jaws amazing. I mean what we're saying him carrying and that's the next step Because usually guys go up and under the other Yeah, like the famous MJ layup this man He dunked it in traffic left foot left hand like that is so hard. I'm 6'10 and I couldn't do that This is that is so hard to do He's how quick they try to take it out and get on I'm good on the right like but yeah I mean, he's he's talented enough to carry a team. I mean, they're not in six. They're doing fine I I was a little shocked at shams yesterday. Uh, it sounds like bangs to be out for a month Two to three weeks great to spraying him the right big toe. Those big toe injuries are tough I mean sounds too funny though Those big toe injuries guys can miss weeks and weeks sometimes months if it is fractures So thankfully he doesn't have a fractured right big toe, but uh, yeah, his big toe is is messed up And this is gonna be huge for dillon brooks. This is now his opportunity desmond veins out He's got to find a way to carry the help carry the low with jaw with jaren And he he's been a little inconsistent this year. He's all over the place He's got to find a way to be more efficient take better shots and kind of be that guy to Hold the fort down while veins out that is one of the sillier professional sports injuries, right big toe It just sounds soft when you say my but that you'll be thinking about it's what you it's everything. It's everything You guys don't wear heels though. I'm telling you This is a show where I just written Yeah, you know anything There's one slipper is in here every day. Oh, yeah, I'm not I'm not wearing heels Utah by the way, this is it. I told you guys they're going to start the season hot Then they're going to slowly start their process so that it looks like they were trying the entire time Thinking that's what you think there's a game they've lost. So, you know, they were obviously at the top We were talking about them a lot But now I ask you what's more likely that they make their way into the playoffs or that we See them as a lottery team. I dropped the 10 and six. They're not doing that. That dude. It's how it starts though The 10 wins is is going to hurt when you look historically the bottom four or five teams They only have 20 wins like they kind of if they continue to this losing streak They kind of blew their water early there And it's kind of they're going to look back and kind of be frustrated that they got off to such a hot start And this is what we were talking about like they're they thought they were going to lose But then they got guys like lorry marketing that are ball and they got kelly olinik these guys They took that personal and they got off to a hot start, but can they sustain it? Are they going to be a top four seed? No chance So then you must you must take it seriously. You got to go the other way You don't want to be caught in the middle. Yeah Winning those 10 november games They're going to finish with 19 wins and they're going to get the ninth We're about to find out. Yeah, we're about to find out. I I I don't think that this is the end for the jazz I personally think that they're going to be able to take a step and and I think they'll turn it around Because I think they are invested to try to Compete after this team got off to this what 10 and three started But we're going to see we're going to find out soon with will hardy and his group You know what I like about doing the show in studio guys We get to see how positive shams is Right. I'm a very positive person of optimism. I am. I'm a double one. Yeah, it tempers like go over here Yeah, I watch songs walk around staples and everybody's acting like he's the grim reaper. It's you know, oh, well, that's different He's an enemy territory That's a different animal altogether Taking a quick break when we come back a monster dunk from an og butler does it again and A pass that you're probably going to want to see that's all when run it back returns To run it back finishes with the left that is amazing. Oh, that is absolutely Spectacular I mean, he's yes. He's must see I would pay You know, there are a lot of guys you're like, I'm not paying to see that paying to see that if I did that in a game I throw the ball in the crowd Just the game's over. I'm out. I'm done. I can't do this. I'm just running the locker room Game over nothing else matters. Look what I did He's a one-man entertainment show and then the the pregame video is about with his dad Just dappin it up to everybody in the read like they just run that. I I don't know. I love it That's obviously a little segui into that man has a family We have a lot more. This is my favorite. Well, it's one of my favorites kenyan martin jr He's had a few like monster dunks this year. He's bouncy The left hand banger also just looks better than the right. Yeah, what is it just because we're you just don't see it I know especially from righty. Yeah, I was gonna say it's because our coffee mugs are lefties and it throws me off So maybe that's that's what it is like That's a nice body too as a nice and that's on a legit center. Yeah a little big footer a footer Yeah, that's a pop. Looks like it's pop. He's actually like way shorter than you think he is too So it's really impressive that he does this 11 points again this year for kmart. Oh just like ben simmons Not a game Okay blocks. I'm here for the blocks. Let me see if I love it Oh Really slow start this year, but he's turned he's he's picked it up. Yeah, this is this is clutch This is effort. This is by the way to do this on one of the best iso scores to who gets his shot Whenever and wherever he wants this this is big time It's not like a kind of block or sort of got a piece of it. It's just a full on hit a wall This is game on the line me against you. You're not even gonna get this shot. That's awesome. We're winning this game That's a great one book. You got to push it next time. I'm sorry Just a little elbow. Just get him out the way Dante divincenzo Excuse me rude I'd like to think this is kind of accidental The momentum of the right hand coming around It looks like he's trying to block it. He's trying to block it. He did block it with the left hand It was the right hand that hit him in the head. He clearly I know Dante a little bit. I don't I don't think no, well j rich didn't he wasn't even mad like he got it was like, all right cool cool So that doesn't look like it hurt that bad and he's got no priors. He's got no prior. This is the first of this First offense. He didn't okay, but now he has a prior now if he does this again now he's bracing allen. Yeah We don't mention that name in my presence. Shailor. What did I say on day one? Yanis. Yeah, Yanis to buy this. Is this like a real no look like let's see. He took a peek That's pretty filthy that's pretty that's pretty nice. That's pretty Look, I've been a Yanis hater in my day. That's pretty You might be the only person in the world. I've heard I like the James Hardin take like, oh But at some point I just appreciate the production like he just he just gets it. I feel like that He's a monster. He's an animal. Yeah, it's like a minute. You think oh, he's not that good a pastor He does some stuff. He does some things like this from like Don't do it. Yeah I would like to say They should have intercepted that I feel like there was room for an interception and they didn't even I don't know what they're thinking. Luca did one of these early against the nets, but it was like kind of off This really hit his guy right in the chest and Luca does things like that all the time So it's not this this had never really seen him kind of die. I'm like this is another play if I did this in a game I'm throwing the ball. You have a lot of last minute things where you're walking off Giana nobby These guys are fun. These guys between him and scotty barns. They got they got a bunch of just link Yeah, he let a long entire team is six ten. That's right Yeah, I was out right now. So oh gee, this is his time to shine when you get like a full runway like that You're definitely getting some power on it. Is that bag? No, is it? Yeah, it's a bag, man Bags, I just want to feel that once like what's that like? What's that like channel? God, honestly, it's awesome It's really fun. So jealous. I'm not jealous of a lot. I am jealous of that Enjoy it while it lasts though because that goes quick. That's a tough fall too. It's worth it Wait, do you could you not dunk right now ever again? I mean I could dunk but it would not be impressive It would be so weak And I would have to like cold tub for a solid 12 Just one little bunny dunk. Oh man. We have this might be our first ever self-own That josh getting you have a family. I guess is how we're gonna put it You you can do that in like open runs at lifetime fitness to la fitness like like you could do that But not in there. Oh, it's crazy too because he's a smart kind of under control great passing He must have thought just for a split second. He was at some gym He fully blacked out there and just I feel like I would have argued like it never got in the bag Oh, it hit the hit the core I mean you could tell me his body language of media is like and it's a close game at this point. Yeah, this is tough She goes like damn, right? That's like maybe one of the most embarrassing things you could do with a court Like there's 20,000 people watching you do this. Well, I think that are just walking the ball John one Oh, he's they scored. He's picking it up. Yeah. I think this is worse But he's literally the only one moving in the entire building in that moment. So all eyes are on you That's rough. I think it's rough. I don't like but you know what he's redeemed himself It's not like he does this all the time. Marcus smart got a kick out of it. Yeah By the way, every time they do Chandler's one shot in his little laptop situation. I die This is my favorite. Yeah, it's look how so that's all I need We need a close-up. We need a close-up. I hope you never get a laptop I don't have an iPhone stand like it's just so fancy I expect to see that Yeah, I'm gonna do from this My favorite thing that we have going on right now. Uh, we take break coming up inch nipples Finally a topic I can get behind That's all Run it back. It's stupid I'm afraid to speak Like they take that one shot and you just see this Early in the game you really control the boards Is that something that just comes naturally in a game like this or yeah, I'm a big bastard, man You assume so, right? Yeah, you know, don't expect one of these little dudes to control the boards, right? I love him. I just love him. I wish he did all the interviews for everybody all the time And he is a big are we allowed to say that word? I mean you cuss all the time. I don't know why I'm looking at you Stephen Adams is always a gift at this point, but he also had a minute earlier was this week Yeah, that he claimed that the spurs jeremy sohan Pinched his nipple in an attempt to break his concentration He's taking the dennis rodman thing to heart. I mean right like that's that's kind of maybe going to be his thing Does that happen jamler? Are we missing this? I mean, I don't know if I've ever got my nipple pinched Uh, little things like I've got to free the line some more untire shoe or the land stephenson like blowing your ear like Yeah, like silly things like that, but as far as the the sexual assault I've never I've never seen that really touching this one michelle Guys No, I now I kind of want to pay attention more I got to say like I would be you'd probably get the rebound on me if you did that like you throw you off a little bit Yeah, not not be distracted I feel like steven adams. It's hard to throw him off. Anyway, so I kind of love it. Um, we're gonna clay that he's Clay thompson's been doing interviews. He's been talking a lot more. He's obviously frustrated Telling the bleacher report. I feel like I deserve more credit for battling through all that injury. Shit Yes, I got to do it. That was a quote Chandler Are we being too critical? Listen, no one's saying he's done. No one's saying he's horrible No one's no one. He's not getting the bin simons treatment right now. He's not And what he I think everyone respects what he Has been through and what he's doing to still even be a contributing player in the mba, but At a certain point he's got to tune it out. He's got to stop listening. You're a you're a hall of famer You're a four-time champion. You have a clay day for god's sake. Like how much more credit do you need? And now the first kind of negative publicity negative tweets you get this is how you react I just I think it's I think I'm a little disappointed in him because he should brush this off so quick He should just be bigger than this and he's he's commenting on it an awful lot and most guys Get heckled most guys get a lot of trash talk to them Most guys get ripped by the media and the fans and that's part of it And now this is the first time he's kind of getting that because he's had this Beautifully perfect career. So the injuries and I don't I just think he's handling it kind of the wrong way and he's not used to This being the norm that a lot of guys are like west like westbrook and these guys these guys get yeah crushed all season long And it hurts and you take you see it everyone's on their phone everyone has twitter everyone has instagram You see all this stuff, but for him to just keep acknowledging it to me as petty. He's having her I mean look he's been loved the whole time. I could see how it would be difficult all of a sudden But then the first negative publicity you get you like unravel like it's like brush it off Also surprised I didn't talk to his dad like just get you know, hey just chill Yeah, this is a guy who like had an awful performance in the finals and it became a meme It was like, you know, he scored four points and he's teasing on the bench who cares So like yeah, it feels like his first real dose of christism and Are we overly critical? Not really. He's not playing great. He's bringing lights with more than anything else Like you're not you know, you're not shooting and playing well and you're getting mad at people that are saying that like it's It's kind of crazy, right? It's there's not they're not making it up and that's probably why he's so frustrated Expansion talk time I never know how I feel about the possibility of adding teams to leagues But mexico city is reportedly a candidate to possibly get an NBA team Of course, seattle And los vegas are also in those talks, but as far as NBA expansion Do we love it? And do we like the idea of mexico city? Uh, no Love it I'm a little if you don't expansion as well like I hate to dilute talent pool even more We have some pretty bad teams in the league. We have some pretty talent depleted teams in the league And now we're going to add 25 more players to the to the docket and we're going to take stars away like it's a lot now Maybe you move some teams So maybe I think vegas and seattle have been in line forever and vegas has proven themselves as a sports city and As gambling becomes less taboo and more acceptable Yeah, I think that's the great a great place to have a team and and I'm sure the players would love it as well But yeah to add another foreign Country to the docket and and having your guys live out there for eight months at a time Like it's asking a lot and when there's viable options here states on there's there's too much unknown I think it's cool to to expand it globally play preseason games there do things like that, but If i'm a free agent I'm not moving my kids to mexico city to play for full time four year round. There's too much. It's it's kind of dangerous There's a lot of team doctors there. Like it's just there's too many questions I think it'd be cool to have different, you know, like I said preseason games there Whatever, but to me, I think vegas is I feel like seattle deserves it before vegas does Sentimentally, I think vegas and seattle the two team uh two cities that the league would probably hone in on But I don't think expansion is coming for several years now You know three five seven years down the line I think once the once nba's through the cba negotiations the new tv deal a couple years maybe after that You're looking at 2026 ish, you know when maybe they can they can get to something I know it's first play in mexico city this year a regular season game. I think i'm dying I'm so sorry, but um, we do we got a little who you got and we give you guys Two options channeler you're gonna start I love that you get this first one better nba city Salt lake or sacramento Be nice channel. Yeah, I mean this is tough. Honestly. This is tough I'd probably go with sacramento just because the it's california the the weather's slightly better I guess in the winter you can you can order a vodka soda double Oh, that's fair bars every there's more nightlight things are open. There's a lot more to do and salt lake is is Pretty miserably cold Where is it going with that one? Yeah, that's not for me God, I used to that sacramento used to be my least favorite stop, but I feel like I'm coming around Which is weird And all they have is the kings too and it's fun to play that like yeah, so I would go with sac All right He wasn't that bad. No any bigger surprise the blazers Or the wizards Well since dame was my dark horse mvp pig. It's i'm not surprised by their success. I'm good the wizards though Especially with them missing dame as long as they have They've just continued to grind it out and you know, they really disappointed season last year and They've dealt with trade rumors for the longest and and brad played. They're like the It'll go. I leave while I won't game, but but they've been fun. They've been exciting out there So i'm gonna go with them. I like what they're doing. Okay. All right better mvp speaking of long shot dame or zion Oh, i'm going with with eddie's dame I think you know people expected the pelicans to be a good team this year and zion to come back and and and have a great year But he's he's gonna miss time and and dame with that roster that team This is one of the teams that I thought We're gonna tank and and we're gonna kind of be in those, you know, women yama sweepstakes dames killin he's averaging 28 seven and five and and he's he's getting everybody involved He's I think they're first in the western conference right now like to me He is top five and and mvp voting and and zion's not it's an interesting culture change that chance He's doing up there and quick which I think is fun to watch eddie bigger disappointments The nets are the lakers. Oh god This is the lakers have the worst record. I'm gonna go with them even though they just beat the nets Well, I think the expectations were higher for them at least for the lakers Yeah, I think you know people really bought into those signings whether they want to admit it now or not People were excited about liney walker people excited about rust potentially off the best people were excited about What they thought they had I viewed the nets as a combustible situation All season long and it's not even like the inside or anything because we knew everything that was going on We knew everything that could go wrong and now it's going wrong And you know, you're talking about a team that had a coach that people wanted fired It's a moment. He got hired you're talking about a superstar who asked out another one that was On the way out the door and the team wouldn't commit too long term and then the unknown have been Simmons and You know, they're big offseason pickups where tj. Warren who hasn't played in two years Edmund Sumner who just missed a season as well and it's like, yeah, there's a lot to worry about here At least from my perspective Let's see that was very diplomatically handled. I'm proud of you on that one Chandler bigger homecourt advantage the Celtics or the Raptors I think Celtics Celtics to me is one of the hardest plays to play I think with that those fans get oh the passion the finals. Oh my god the history That's when I covered again the noise those fans too. They cut deep. They'll sing some crazy things to you Sounds about right and just the noise is that place shakes when it's rocking. Yeah Toronto gets loudly to the Toronto gets lovely honestly in Portland Toronto's fun and okc when they were popping back today They don't sit down. They keep twirling the town. They are they're like college fans. They are nuts But boston to me, they're always good and the crowd is even better I think the insulting in massachusetts as a whole is better I went to game one I went to game one last year and it's the first time in the arena in the way It's just set up. Yeah, it's just like almost level and they just don't stop and you hear a shake I I was blown away like 30 was moving physically shakes. I don't like that. No, it's tough I'm hating that. I swear I think It rattles the refs it's so loud. Yeah, that's that might be Too much. Um eddie if you could pick Only one of us to team up with for the amazing race Who would it be? And then why do the right thing here? I'm canceling chandler again All right out again I think I know where this one's going because I'm on load management. You know, why is he out? That's interesting Look, he's just you know, he's a man of means. He's not used to that. I mean, you know, he's fancy He's bougie. I'm going with psalms. Oh He's resourceful Sexist this is becoming I don't I think you got to I'm you know, I'm He doesn't jump never even I'm over here like I would have been like, no, you know what you're right. No, he's just like really resourceful He can make it work in any room like look at the things he's uncovered in this world. I'm gonna call someone to help actually Right. Yeah Like really young and he's like, yeah I need He just called you old We have how much time in the show 11 more minutes of this Thank you. No, I got it. You know what? I hope you do get on any of these shows and hope you fail Miserably if we do the challenge If we do the challenge, I got you. I'll eat just bugs and stuff This spot is yours. I'm by Once again by default. I'm like, okay. This is embarrassing. All right. Fine. Let's do a little convince me show Chandler convince me this one every year NBA regular season should be shortened to 58 games Yeah, I kind of like this honestly. I think it would load management wouldn't exist All the star every game would matter, right? So like if you go on a five game losing trigger the 58 game season Your season could be in jeopardy Stars would play they would as kids imagine if you're in Sacramento and Philly's coming there and Joel and B The one time he comes doesn't play that wouldn't happen in a shorter season So I think it's great for the game. I think it's great for the players and I think it's really great for the fans Although I wonder how long it would take before they scientifically were like, well, we still have to do a little bit of load Yeah, then we would just play 45 Just make it a seven game series. We'll call it a night. Uh eddie They should bring back breakable glass Backboards. Yeah, I just think these ones are breakable. I'm leaving it up to the guys we have now to challenge them Zion you couldn't break one of these. I don't want to see it I want to see if anybody can it's going to be I want to see you do it Zion like you did it no way No, I think the rim can like get you know, uh, take the the breakaway room Yeah, I think I think you can mess up the rim itself in the foundation. I don't think you can't break the glass I don't know. I want that to they don't like guys hang on the room anymore, which is not fun I think it's like again weak if I was to if I don't come channel I need to hang on the rim for a little bit and tell channel. I did that. Yeah I love eddies all of his ifis So many going at all time. They're never happening. But like, yo I'm hanging on the rim like Ray Allen. Exactly. We're civilians. We should we're allowed that channeler. I can dream Um, interesting each team should be allowed one flagrant foul I mean, this is crazy. This would honestly pipe down the old heads that think the new guys are soft And you know, this is what made the bad boys the pistons fun, right? It would make it like everyone I watch hockey to see the fight. So if you give If you give NBA teams one just hard foul, maybe it would spice up the the action would be fights. There would Uh, it would be extremely dangerous and guys would end up missing the games. Like we just talked about Would you have like a goon on each squad? That was like, that's your one job. Yeah, you're just That's the guy you're you're you're signing one inmate per his team. It's a jerry so-hand situation. Count as a flagrant Like a nipple pinch. Yeah That's foreplay Eddie convinced me the NBA should reset every year. So teams dropped from All players based on the previous year's finish. Um, so first pick, you know, could be honest I'm gonna make it crazier. Just randomize it. They're like on 2k just to randomize the rosters Let's just send everybody everywhere every year. I think this would be amazing. We love player movement in the NBA So like let's really get player movement sucks for them and have to move you have no idea where you're going at any given moments But for us, yes, they're rich. They're fun. That's a disgusting answer. I've never heard. Yeah, chandler I still can't believe he called you old. Oh, don't worry. We're gonna talk about it. I got eight more minutes of being nice on television Uh, we're breaking down tonight's biggest matchups When run it back returns Trying to age backwards I deflated We did You know what? We're in Los Angeles, so we're throwing around show ideas as people do But we're not going to share any of them because they're all winners. Uh, guys LA we've been here a few days. We've hung out takes I've enjoyed LA I've enjoyed the studio more than anything though. I've enjoyed the time getting to spend with you guys It's been fun. Can we get you to move out west or? Um, very unlikely Oh No, you guys this has been good. It's been great. You know chandler's uh liquor tolerance is exactly what I said He's exactly what I thought he was That's a classic somehow I ended up taking it to just like yeah, I'm I'm terrible person As well. Yeah No, this is fun. I love having you guys. This is your backyard. You're the one who has to wake up It's yeah, I know this is the timing is tough. 6 30. I had to wake up at 5 to get on the drive from malibu Oh the life from malibu your life is awful The driver didn't bring you Jeans wasn't available this morning Uh, we are run it back. We are on mondays through wednesdays 10 eastern in the morning Yep, that's right. And uh, we'll see you guys next week. Have a good one