 So right now I'm happy to welcome Felix Reinshagen co-founder and CEO of Navvis and his colleague Michael. So hello Felix, hello Michael, welcome and happy to have you here. Thanks for having us. Yeah, I'm in Euro from Navvis. You have a huge booth here directly also here in our hall in hall 23. And I heard you clapping, party, celebrating. And I saw many people visiting your booth. Please explain me who is Navvis, where you're from, what exactly is this. So let us talk a bit about you. Yes, so perhaps let me introduce myself very quickly. I'm Felix, I'm one of the co-founders and the CEO of Navvis. We are still calling ourselves a startup even though we have grown into a company of around 250 people by now. A success story then? Absolutely, yes. We were actually a spin-off from Technical University Munich 2013. And of course we started as a real research team. It was all PhD students and it took us of course a couple of years to turn the fundamental research which was all about photogrammetry, computer vision, 3D data processing, slam into the first set of products and of course these products still had some way to go. And yeah, I think we are now at a stage as a company where we are really kind of serving a very, very global market. So that's why we are, since many years I think 2015 was the first year, always very happy to come to interview. And I'm very happy to have Michael with me today. But Michael has something with him. I guess it's not normal that you wear something like that around your head. It's very normal for us. So would you just explain us what it is and for which application it is to use? Yes, so what are we doing at NavVis? Our larger mission is to make scanning a lot easier, faster and more cost efficient specifically in the indoor space. And the VLX is a new iteration of many, many years of first fundamental research, why we were still at the university and then of course of product development at NavVis and together with our customers. But why did you decide to wear it at the body? Because we saw a robotic at the floor, we see them at the air, but this one you wear actually just like a jacket around you and a helmet. A lot of research and as well specifically user research has been put into the form factor. And of course the mission was to bring the speed that we already see in mobile mapping on cars, outdoors into the building and move away from stationary scanning, which was of course a market standard now for many years and we are a software company by heart. So the modern world of algorithm and allows us now to bring incredible quality into laser scanning while you're moving around. And of course while you're moving around you're held out faster and you can see things from many different directions. Yeah, I see the cameras around there. Exactly. The processor and the electricity and so it's all in there. It's all in there exactly. And of course that ambition translates into of course certain elements in the design and the form factor. And that's perhaps you know start with why you wear it in front of yourself and why it's not a backpack. Yeah. Which might be the first natural thing and you know if you run around here you see some backpacks. So our designers, industrial designers worked a lot with backpack prototypes. But of course these are very kind of fragile sensors. And if you carry them behind you and someone calls your name in a tight environment or construction site and you suddenly turn around and you hit the sensor on a wall. It's just when you wear your baby also at the front. Exactly. I don't wear my little baby on my back. That's the perfect analogy that we have been using. So this is your baby. Exactly. You really want to take care of and you know you want to move consciously. You wear that in front of you. And there's another big advantage. You know we have a touch screen here. It's a very high resolution that gives you all the real-time information. So you see in real-time how the 3D map is building. You see as you are changing stories. You see you get a color coding that tells you how well have you already scanned certain areas. You see your whole trajectory. You can do the whole data set management. And of course it's very helpful to have that in front of you. And still can take your hands totally off the device. Because that's as well something I think everyone who works in reality capture knows. Not always is the place that you want to scan perfectly tidy. You might need to open doors, move furniture around. And if you have a handheld and a smartphone. And then you need to open the door or you know move some stuff around. That's actually not very practical. Okay this is smart. This is clever. So after going through many iterations it turned out that carrying a scanner is really kind of best done in front of you. And that is really really helpful to have a screen right in front of your eyes. Okay so what is your actually target audience? So who are you looking for in the tree who uses this exactly? So I think what is really revolutionary about this is that we are now capable of delivering data quality that is very close and for many use cases on par with what you could previously only achieve with stress regulator scanning. And of course mobile mapping, dynamic scanning has been around for many years. But it was actually restricted to use cases that would be fine with very low data quality. And the VLX combines two 16 line LiDAR scanners. One in the vertical and one in the horizontal. And five camera that give you perfect 360 panoramas while of course not showing the operator. You know again if you have a backpack or a device that you are carrying in front of you and you have a panoramic camera. A huge part of your panoramic image will be occupied by the operator. And we hide the operator perfectly in the blind spot so you get very very clean data. And then I think the other thing that is really very special for our target audience. The device is perfectly designed to tie into traditional means of surveying. So we can read ground control points, we can read wall control points so that you can easily kind of use your surveying network, tie the mobile scan in. You can of course even scan in more ground control points or kind of survey points that are necessary to make sure that you've got the system over determined and can calculate automatically using our software the error and automatically correct the errors. So I think that is what makes the device really revolutionary. It's the speed. But the first time that speed is actually coming with the data quality that is actually really applicable for I think most of the use cases around scan to BIM, construction monitoring, all kind of standard surveying work that you would be doing around as documentation, as build documentation, drawing of all kinds of plans. We've as well by now gained a lot of experience in very difficult environments with reflective surfaces. And here again the fact that we are seeing things from so many different perspectives and that we have the chance for the lighter system to, if you walk around to perp every surface from the perfect angle as well results in very very clean data and almost perfect coloring. Wow, that's really cool. So thanks again for presenting that revolutionary device to us, to our audience of Introduce TV this year at Introduce 2021. Did you have time to stroll around in the halls or get some impressions? What's going on here and how do you feel? What do you think of Introduce 2021? Yeah, first we are incredibly thankful for Introduce to happen again. 2019 was the last time I was personally at Introduce. We were there last year digitally, and these two years were a huge transformation for us as a company. We have almost doubled in size. We launched the VLX before that. We had cart-based systems that were already good in data quality, but of course by far not that versatile and had a very different price point in the market. So we are of course very proud to be back two years later as twice a large company and it was a very large boost. And I think the reception in the market has been awesome for the last year, even through COVID, and it's really good to now feel that and see that in person with such a large audience. So a lot of people, please, everyone come by. I think there's a lot of activity. You have the chance to play around with the technology, scan our booths or a part of Introduce here live. No, it's good to reconnect with people, not only in a digital way, but as well on a very personal level. That was I think what always made Intergeo special and it's as well good to see a lot of friends from the industry. So we are very happy about the show and very happy to be back. Thank you very much. Felix Reinshagen and Michael with the VLX, our supermodel today for presenting that revolutionary device. So thanks for joining us.