 As we conclude conversations surrounding the events from the ENSA's movement one year later, we're being joined by international relations expert Michael and Ketia from Ghana and of course social entrepreneur Kofo Kegel. Thank you very much gentlemen for joining us. Thank you and thanks for having me in the show. Yes Michael, I have had a conversation with you about how the world perceives Nigeria's handling of this issue of you know ENSA's and young people protesting against police brutality and bad governance. Now it's a year, exactly a year after people were killed, people were shot at, people were injured at the Lekitou Plaza in Lagos, Nigeria. And we saw people come out to commemorate the day and if you have been following the news coming up from Nigeria you would see almost a repeat of what happened this time even though people were not shot at or killed. There was some form of police harassment and malhandling. The main reason why that protest even happened in the first instance. I'd like to ask you what exactly you see looking from the outside in and of course how the police and government is dealing with this issue? Well first to begin with I must say that for those of us in Ghana and other parts of the continent it came as a shock when we started seeing images and more importantly bloody videos of innocent protesters who were shot, some killed during the Lekitou agitations. What even became more surprising to some of us was the faulty attempt by the Nigerian security services and the government in general to cover the massacre. Initially there were attempts to deny that people were shot in the first place. There was an initial denier then later it was accepted that yes people were shot when no one was killed but later when we found out that people were actually killed. Another shocking aspect is that one major medium through which people started spreading their images and videos during the protest which is straight and social media was banned in Nigeria till date and if you deny people the platform the opportunity to to pull out their anger, their frustrations. If you deny them the basic platform to do that at the end of the day the people will resort to violent agitations to demand for their rights. I believe that it would have served the Nigerian government better if it had allowed Twitter to operate in Nigeria so that they knew the youth can vent their spring, they can come out to their frustrations, the youth can have a platform to communicate and share their opinion on happiness within the country. When you deny the people all these opportunities they may have nothing to but to resort to violent agitations. Again, following the fleet this afternoon from Ghana I saw even the police arresting people into cars. I saw tear gas being fired to dispense the crowd and I was asking myself as the Nigerian government as the Nigerian security forces learned anything from the Lekitobos. Quite strangely one year after the massacre no policemen no military man had been made as responsible for the death of one of the protesters till date. The Nigerian government has not published any concluding findings with regards to happening during the Lekitobos wait. I know there was a fact finding committee that was established to look into the whole Brujaha but to date it has not been published. No police officer, no military man has been found, has been indicted for the massacre that had happened at the Tobut and it is quite strange that the government will submit its various sentences to all these forms of cruel harassment or in the name of demanding for better police reforms and I believe the almost life of the Nigerian government to put the right to carry me. Kofo you're a Nigerian in diaspora you you're drawing us from the UK and we saw you and many other Nigerians protesting last year you know in solidarity with Nigerians within Nigeria who seem to be feeling the pinch more than you. A lot of people were asking why Nigerians in diaspora were even bothered knowing that you know they they some people would say they've survived you know and run away from the kind of brutality that Nigerians are facing here but that's an aside. Why did you even in the first instance think that it was necessary to go on this protest and here we are today one year later you're on TV talking about it. Do you seem that do you think that they seem to be hearing us or they just choose not to? Okay thank you so much for having me this evening you see. I agree with most of the things Michael I said you see I think as a diaspora and I'm a Nigerian wherever I find myself if I go to the UK if I go to America if I go to Canada I am a Nigerian and they wouldn't treat me as an individual they would treat me as a collective I'll be treated as a Nigerian wherever I present my passport even if I present a British passport my name says go for and I am all Nigerian you see. So when Nigerian becomes better it works for every single person whether you are living in the UK or you're living in Nigeria we want we all want to see a better Nigeria we all want to come home and we want to have to the economy of Nigeria we all want to build the nation together. So if your brother of mine is suffering in the hands of the police or a structural system is working against that it is affecting me also because one of the things I teach is we need to go from this individualism individualistic mentality to a communal mentality where we work as a group as a people as a collective with the government I don't think the government is hearing us I don't think they are paying attention to us I think they're thinking of the 2023 election I think they think it's the same thing they've always done they've always do you know find a few young people either give them money give them brain driver give them scholarship in top universities and think all is going to be over but I think something is strange and let me just ask this I said a lot of people stopped me on the road and said oh what did you achieve with ENSAZ what did you achieve with the movement you guys just wasted your time you wasted your money you wasted your effort and I even had this improvisation with my barber today I said to him I don't think we wasted our time money or effort but I think something has changed something has broken Nigerians are speaking about their nation and the guys in diaspora have seen out in democracy she worked they've seen out a nation to I'm sorry I want to come in there really has something changed if you were watching from the beginning the the minister of information the person whose duty is to inform us he's also supposedly a spokesperson for mr president has come up to say that this whole thing that we're talking about is a phantom so really has anything changed you know the the the dishonorable minister of misinformation um lying walmart sorry um the honorable minister of information um lying walmart um I think his words are suspect um I think we need to pay attention to it but we the people we know something has changed um the media or the information or the narrative can be passed out that says nothing has changed you know no something has changed people are speaking Nigerians around the globe are speaking the international community is listening you know the way you come to the UK you come to America before I just work on the street it doesn't Nigerians will stop you on the streets of London and question you as a Nigerian minister it's not the same thing anymore so something has changed the one thing about change is change is a process and process takes time you see but something has changed people are waking up gradually okay gradually and this is why we need to keep speaking and doing the things we're doing well unfortunately we're out of time gentlemen but thank you so much what a way to end this conversation my conkatia is an international uh PR expert I beg your pardon he's a political international relations and political analysts he's joining us from Ghana and Kofo Kago is a social entrepreneur and he joined us from the United Kingdom thank you very much gentlemen we have to go now thank you all right I want to thank you all for staying with us it's been a very great conversation a marathon when we return from this quick break I'll give you my take here's my take now I must say that I'm ashamed and utterly disappointed that this nation that you call ours uh you and I call our own has come to this I mean this is supposed to be a land of freedom peace and unity we used to sing it when we were in primary school but that seems to have faded away now jerry's now a country where our troops who should be protecting us and our borders have turned their guns on us killed maimed and even done this with reckless abandon but what is our crime you would ask well we ask for good governance we ask that you know the a group of policemen stopped being uh profiling us wrongly because we have iPhones and we have laptops you know we ask for an end to police brutality we ask that the police authorities stop killing innocent Nigerians through the enrolled police department called sars but instead they hung us on a cross they decided uh to oppress us and harm us forgetting that they also aren't left out of this oppression you see that's the irony of things we're all on the receiving end of this bad leadership whether you are in uniform or not whether you carry a gun or a pen or a flag we all are the victims here now until the police and all Nigerians realize that we need to band together to read this nation of these corrupt and irresponsible politicians it will continue to wallow in poverty and pain and even more grief but i'll end this by saying we haven't forgotten we will never forget the blood of the slain is crying out for justice and justice they will get so i'll say let's end sars let's end bad governance and make Nigeria great again i am mary anacor have a good evening