 I think on that Senator Dirksen on the line what have you said about having a bipartisan conference through the newspaper yeah you see what yeah yeah there all of them are calling me on the phone like we got another crisis and I thought we came out the hospital the other day and I explained to you every damn thing in the world we knew now Rusk is overseas I told you anytime you wanted to put on your hat and come down here I have our leaders and I met with all of them yesterday and I'd be glad to have you or anybody you want to bring with you this afternoon or tonight or anytime but this oughtn't be we got a hundred and twenty nations watching us and I don't think we serve much good by by trying these cases in the newspaper even today's election year well this president I don't think of me coming down or forth or anybody you want to bring if you if you feel the need of any conference as I told you on the phone the other day and as I told you when I saw you I'm ready any day to meet you anytime and discuss with you anything you want to know I have every time we have a significant thing I have them fully briefed I had Rusk when he returned to go to the house and invite everybody I had him go to the Senate and invite everybody I personally reviewed it with our people I talked to you about it I want Rusk is aboard broad now he will be back on Friday night I had anticipated that I would try to go through a briefing with the with the members of the Congress at a little later time after he got back and after the thing was a little bit clearer out to out there but if you have any feeling of need for information my God you know that you can get anything me without going through Jack Bell well now we looked up to date and I think the last really formal conference well it 24th of February well do we want formal conferences I told you the other day if you want a formal conference for the purpose of that I was pretty formal and when I came out to see you when I sent Rusk up to see speaker in his office when I sent him up to see man steel and your people are just 10 days ago but I don't think you can pick out an individual or two individuals I don't want to pick out an individual I pick out I let you pick out whoever you want well I have picked out you see I don't I doubt that anybody has had as many people down here far as long to brief them as I have I've had every member of the Senate this year yeah I'm every single damn one of them has been invited to come for two hours now I've had the leadership I have a regular leadership meeting with my people every week I don't recall of every cut being called into a leadership meeting of other presidents except on foreign aid Foster Dulles on the Ben Ben Thiel thing called us over at the State Department but the president of the United States and my record my diary show that he called me primarily on foreign aid with passman yeah but I have I have had regular meetings with him every member of the House never remember the Senate and I'm ready to and if you want to assemble a group of Republicans or Democrats I just had Rusk up there before he left yeah one of the last things he did in preparing to go to NATO was to go up and spend a couple hours with the speaker and everybody on the House side but I think the invitation would have to come from you who not from us because well I I have nothing that I need to impart to you at this time with my secretary of state over debating our problems with NATO yeah and he was just having gone and brief both sides before he left yeah no you weren't there you were sick but he he spent a good deal of time with the with every member armed services foreign relations yeah leadership at my direct instruction just before he went to Europe yeah now of course that is one thing now do you remember I was now ever doing that I never had me on when I was leader for six years under him he had me on passman's aid problems two or three times yeah but not one time did he ever conduct a briefing to remember the Senate but we didn't have a situation like we got the hell you had lots of situations you you had the beginning of the situation we got today you had so most of you had the Lebanon you had he turned around on his way to Japan and came back we had lots of situations but he just didn't do it in the paper and I want if you want to bring somebody down here and see them and have a formal meeting and have pictures made I'm for it I sure want to do what you want done I just thought the other day when I called you and told you that that you felt there wasn't any need for it yeah that's what you said to me well I couldn't speak for everybody else but there seemed to be an estimate that there is a clear need for it now to be brought up today as to what is going on well don't you think it would be a very desirable thing to at least communicate that to me before that if you're going to change your mind before it gets on the wires and press people go to asking about about it do you think it's good for our country for me and you to be divided in the Secretary of State to be abroad that we're not divided well I sure hope not but that's the way you that's the way they appear what they say to me as you say yeah the last week Dirksen said we needed a meeting and then you talk to Dirksen and Dirksen said we didn't need a meeting and now Dirksen says today that there's a crisis of confidence now I didn't use that but I thought a meeting would be useful and I made my last pitch now on that well now you just take this a meeting is useful anytime you'll tell me who you want I'll have them the moment the Secretary of State gets back here in the absence of your telling me who you want you don't need you you you've never been modest or shy about to making recommendations to me we know each other pretty well and let's stay out of these damn newspapers on foreign policy if we have to get into it on these other things all right but we do have a good many critical things and I don't they're trying to win and Washington what the king went out there and I don't want them to think that that my strong right arm like you is out here taking the position that you haven't had enough meetings hell I just I drove out to hospital for the purpose of the day and when I got through seeing you I drove out to see Mike I don't know any president that tried to tail up his people more well I try to keep on the water and I'm not gonna harass you got it well why don't you do this if I haven't seen your statement all I know is what the papers are saying but and I thought you'd call me why don't you just tell me who you'd like to see down here and since their state gets back I'll call him otherwise I'll go on and handle it like I normally do by inviting the various groups to come at the various times and and let each ask questions let me get this situation all right yeah okay let's tell the papers to ever done this this doesn't imagine that pretty long reading there this morning that we have got to the minority leaders calling for a meeting immediately try to settle this thing in this country we don't need that that doesn't do a damn bit of good the part we're seeking is orientation that's right well you can get that by picking up the phone okay