 Elder God, free of charge, free of charge, feel like chichou. When you finished college, what did you do to kill time? I've been making a lot of music on my dad's old laptop. Most of it is starting something, getting a new idea, and then having a bunch of half-finished projects. I killed time. I think I told the story before, but I'll tell it again, right? After I finished my last exam, university, five years of university, co-op, honors, program, math, minor, I worked my ass off. The last FN exam I wrote, go back, go book, go big, go big. Thank you for the follow. When I finished my last exam of my university life, a happy big smile from here to here. I know I've got the degree. It's a done deal, and some of it very well. Thinking about doing masters, but not seriously. I'm walking towards my residence. I was living in one bedroom apartment residence. It was supposed to be for married people, but we got in somehow. Bureaucracy. Bureaucracy is stupid. It's not intelligent. You can just work around it. Walking back to the apartment, I'm done. I was actually flying out the next day, coming back to Vancouver. I was in Ontario. I'm walking through a parking lot of a strip mall. That's right across the street from my apartment. I run into this person, my mentor, one of my greatest teachers ever, that I work with doing a co-op term. Geophysics, co-op term, doing geophysics. He turns to me, I go, oh my God. I'll say his name, Mark. How are you doing? He goes, oh, what are you doing? I go, I just finished my last exam. I'm flying out tomorrow, just going through the apartment. Just to chill. I'm happy. He goes, oh, fantastic. Give me your resume. I'm like, what? He goes, listen, I just started the geophysics department in this international geoengineering company. International geoengineering company. He just started the geophysics department in it. And he goes, I just started this and you're hired. Because he's worked with me. He knew what I was capable of. And I said, dude, I don't even have a resume together. He goes, I don't care. I'm the head of the geophysics. I'm it. I just started this. I'm the only one. We're expanding. You're hired. You're it. I go, look, I don't even have a resume. He goes, I don't care. Just go to... There was a place at the time called Kinko's. Everyone didn't have printers and stuff like this. It was expensive. A printer, a laser printer. I bought one of these when I was doing comic book publishing. It cost like $2,000 at the time. A scanner would cost you around $1,500, $2,000. So everybody didn't have all this equipment. You have to go to a center to do word processing and print shit out and stuff like this. He says, just go over there and put a resume together and just give it to me. Here's your address. He goes, drop it off. I just finished an exam. My brain is a little mush. I don't feel like putting together a resume, but I said, okay, I'll do it for you, Mark. Because I love the guy. He was amazing human being. So I went there, typed out of a resume, typos and shit, dropped it off for him, went home packed, flew out the next day. Long story. Two and a half months later, or no, a month and a half, two months later, I was in San Francisco. And I talked with my father. He goes, oh, Chico, listen, this guy's looking for you. He was in Vancouver. I go, oh, what was his name is Mark. He's a number. So I called him up from San Francisco. I go, hey, Mark, what's up? He goes, listen, what the hell? He gave me a resume. I told you you were hired. I can't find you for two and a half months. Where the F are you? I go home in San Francisco. He goes, what the F are you doing in San Francisco? Get back to Ontario. Your job's there. You're hired. Get back here. I go, look, dude, I got stuff going on, personal stuff was important. He goes, I don't care. Get back here. I got projects waiting for you to go out to do them. I'm like, dude, he goes, no, you gave me a resume. You're hired. Get your ass there. So I said, okay, I go, listen, okay, I got to take the bus back and I got to fly. He goes, when can you be here? I go, when do you need me? He goes, look in the day after I said you're hired. Yesterday I needed you. A week ago I needed you. I go, okay, look, I'll take me a week to get there. He goes, no, no, no, no, no. I go, okay, look, give me like four days to get back, like seriously. And I got, you know, took a bus back. What is a red-eye bus? Brutal. San Francisco to Vancouver. Nastyness, right? And then I flew back to Ontario to start working, right? Reading, sorry, this is a long way to answer your question, Felix. Felix asked, Chicho, when you finished college, what did you do to kill time? I've been making a lot of music on my dad's old laptop. Most of it is starting something, getting a new idea and then having a bunch of half-finished projects. For me, I had about a month and a half without going hard, two months without going hard. When I got back to Ontario doing geophysics, I didn't have to kill time. I was working anywhere between 60 to 90 hours a day. I was getting about three, four hours in the sleep at night. It was fantastic, loved it. It was a power learning, right? I learned more one year of working than I would have done 10 years ago on a university, right? So I just worked my ass off and I loved it. I flew around all over Canada and it was amazing. And I continued that for a decade. Elder God. Cigar Room with Julian Assange.