 All right, cool guys. Let me let me let you talk. Hold on one second. Dude sick We got Harry Claudio and what what do you can come back on if you want? We got Harry now you're in yo, what's up? Yo, what's up big bearded man? Whoa Harry really quick Claudio is your I can't I don't know your are you cloud s on that's him That's him. Okay, cool a lot of talk. So we got Claudio When I thought of this, yo, what's up, buddy? How are you? I'm good man. How you doing bud? All right, let's see any anybody else who's here Davron. Where you at? Let me put on Davron Davron's been seeing so much frickin success lately, dude. I actually like what we should talk about it Davron Okay, we can start with that. What's up, dude? Can you guys hear me? Fuck yeah Awesome. Hey, how's it going guys? I might see let's go. Yeah, but see let's go So the way I kind of just want to spearhead this today guys is let's just talk a little bit right now Let's just kind of rant what it means to be a trader kind of like what the lifestyle is the hurdles to get through You know remembering what it was like to be day one versus like what you are now and then and then later guys in like In like 20 minutes, maybe half an hour. We'll answer your questions So please save your questions for a little bit. Let's just kind of talk man. Like like like what do you get? What do you guys want to talk about? Like I kind of want this to be very style Absolutely And you hear me now yep, Claudia I'm much better man. Okay. Okay a little bit, but this is I'm sorry. Okay, so Edson is gonna be there myself trend supporter There are a couple of people that have confirmed there already We're interested in having as many people as possible. There's gonna be MAC swag there The the the objective of the meeting is to know get to know each other on a personal way So the community can become like More linked to each other, you know It's not just us the moderator that you see every other Saturday and And and I mean and a bow and Alex, but just to get us To know each other better you can bring your wife or your significant other or your husband if you're a girl You can bring your friends There's gonna be people that is gonna be swag not swag. They're gonna be people with That you can be you can bring friends and there's gonna be people that speak Spanish So if you have friends that speak Spanish and As the first language, please come to the meet-up and we will love to see you there and have you there And we're gonna be there from 5 p.m. That's when it's open until they kick us out basically hell Yeah, man. Hell yeah, this is the point of the community guys This is what we did in the first couple years Obviously COVID did put a little bit of a halt actually a major halt to the in-person meet-ups But now that everything's getting lifted even you know, even California is open for God's sakes these days We want to get back to the people man. We want to get back to meet-ups We want to get back to boot camps and the things that bring us together So definitely try to make it if you can and get to know your fellow trader, man Mm-hmm. So I'm looking forward to seeing you there if you have any questions Please That's not me someone's girlfriend's in the back complaining someone's back there I don't know who it is. Someone's girlfriend's like you're not going to fucking meet up. Yeah So if you have any questions about the meet-up, please DM me or trend supporter We are the tool guys that are organizing it trend. Thank you for for helping us out I look forward we will be we will continue promoting it it because the more the So we can meet everyone there Yeah, guys, definitely definitely make it look the thing about meet-ups that we've realized over the years and believe me man Believe me dude over the years. There are so many people since COVID. I haven't even met dude It's like I've never met Harry. I've never met cloudy over. I love to meet you. I've never met dad Oh, wait, no, Devin. I think we did meet the other one. Do we? Oh I'm with the hot chick now. I'm just kidding. Yeah, we met at the San Jose meet-up, right? I was gonna I was gonna say dude. It was like three years ago. I think we did. Yeah So we get a million years ago, dude. That was awesome though. We got to do it again Well, I that was that was that was the let you you fun fact, man. I don't drink anymore I haven't drinking in two years bro that night was one of the last times I've ever drank publicly and I was slosh dude, so that's why I don't really remember It was so fun bow bow was making so many jokes too. It's funny Bow's out of his mind, bro. He's crazy He's that he's bow is literally exactly the way you think he would be in person but like on steroids So if you've never met bow, bro, I'm not kidding you He's like five times anything you would think on the good side because he's exactly the persona He portrays all the family the quirk you know, he's crazy. He's absolutely crazy He's emotional So what are you guys planning to do another meetup? I might see you like the official one, you know Well, go ahead. Well, I was gonna say publicly with with all three of us founders and all the mods and stuff That's gonna be a little bit of time. We definitely want to get a virtual camp out first but when it comes to these when it comes to these Regional ones like these geographical ones that you know cloud is putting together and of your city We're gonna try to keep these as much as possible Mm-hmm. Gotcha Definitely man Dev run, let's bro. Let's talk about your success man. What's going on, bro? You were having trouble a year ago now, dude. I swear to God, bro. You are fucking killing it, dude Let's talk about that, man No, and it is not fucking trading at after zombie. No more Trade yes, no master to have been trying to tell you for three years no more If I do that like if I stop doing that for sure, then I would probably be like, you know rich I'm not kidding. No, I'd be doing even better, right? But no, I rarely do it nowadays because You know, I have my my gym schedule So I just my gym schedule to to leave right at the zombie time red 730 when it was hits have alarm and which says Stop trading and go to the gym. So sometimes the most of them I followed that but sometimes, you know, like AMC whatever, you know, it's it looked like it was breaking down You know, I stayed yesterday. So I kind of like took a 50% haircut off my profits Right, I stayed but yeah, if I didn't then I'd be good Well, me and Alex cut off every single day with there's no exception I mean Alex will literally unless it's a first red day said because that's the majority of the money that he makes Literally in a calendar year, but dude unless it's a first ready like an AMC or GME that he's really excited about We don't stay past 1030 and tell me it's it's I mean we try to force it down your guys throw How important it is? I know some of you it takes a little while to hear it You know, sometimes it takes 15 times to hear it in one day before you go You know what maybe one of something what you're saying, bro is it's really done wonders for your trading, right? Of course and guys, it's really not worth it to stay after zombie Like unless you're really good at channel trading like Bowers. Yeah, that's the only setups there are in zombie times It's challenge rate. I'm really bad at it. I I trade the momentum. I love the momentum trading You know, which is which happens right at the open. You know, that's why I You know, I'm usually So yeah, but you know, I rarely make money after you know zombie times because yeah, if you want to learn the challenge trading You're good, but like yeah, it's a lot of it takes a lot of experience Harry, do you channel trade at all? You don't channel trade. Do you not really? I love to stick around and just watch. That's kind of what I love to do. I Nailed the open like I've been doing really really good Just nailing the open nail and bail You know, just all that kind of stuff like the sculpts at the open but as for the channel trading I mean zombies kind of been okay, but like it hasn't really been the best recently so I've just kind of avoided those type of trades, but I just love to watch bow and You know, sometimes I'll even go short and I just I love to watch just you know Broken stock pop and I just know where bow is going to be like on ALF today. It was 750 Like he just absolutely murdered that line and I just you know Just love to watch and I just love to get as much screen time in and experience as possible You know, I think that's really been a key to my success is that I wake up every single morning at you know Early early early in the pre-market when things just start going on and I literally sit here all day Till the market closes and I watch every single fucking tick everything, you know Harry, let me say something on that because because you and James are I've actually been tied to really closely over the years And when I say this guys, I'm not discrediting anybody else. I'm not saying that they didn't work as hard It's just I've actually really worked with Harry and James closely for the last couple years And I will say dude the reason why they found success is bro They live eat sleep breathe and shit trading and when I mean that dude I mean look Harry saying he's not even placing trades basically after the first hour But he's watching everything to learn like this is what it takes bro. Yeah, Harry. How old are you dude? Seriously? I literally turned 22 this Friday dude 22 and he's got a skill that I know because he's so disciplined He's set for life dude He's got a good head on his shoulders and I know like a lot of people don't like to you know Have someone else post about him, but dude, I've seen Harry's work ethic over three years I worked with James row heavily on the phone for months in his first year dude. These guys have the work ethic, bro They got it Yeah, like I mean it's really just like Literally like anyone anyone can be able to do it like like hard work is gonna be talent if you're lazy Like every single every single time like every single day of the week if you just show up Watch and just have an open open open mind Like you're gonna be like super super successful if you're watching the videos is if you're listening to bow if you're listening to Tosh Joe just everyone if you're just spending time and you're willing to just eat shit for a couple years I swear to God you can change your fucking life You literally can absolutely change your fucking life if you're just willing to just learn and listen and shut up and just Just just learn you know and just drop your ego and just say okay. I'm willing to learn. I'm willing to eat shit You know, I'm willing to just spend time at the screen and that's really the secret to success You know just watching every single day. Yeah, it's just consistency and focus, right? It's like everybody wants to see your formula Like the my most favorite thing that I've ever heard Claudio say and maybe he can riff on this a little bit But Claudio said one time in a week in mentoring how You know what the thing that he that he fell in love with the MIC is the fact that Everybody has something to offer whether you guys like my style of teaching whether you like Harry's whether you like Joe Kelly James you're gonna get something from everybody and I found that Claudio you had kind of like You had you resonated with that right because that I mean obviously that's kind of your words Yeah, to me everyone that comes in your life is a gift I love that period because Everyone has something to offer Everyone is this universe and if you like Harry just said open your ears and close your mouth There's something you can make out of of that person that person is a key. There's a purpose Big of why that person came into your life But the purpose is for you to find why is he there or for what reason is he there? Remember that I'm working on a book actually my wife is right next to me working on that on the last chapter of the book We we want to see if we want to publish it. We will we will be able to publish it by by the end of the year bottom Mother-in-law Woody I Like you you're you're you're older than me So I respect people like there's a saying that I'm always I always say the devil knows more for being All done for being the devil. There's actually a book That Napoleon Hill wrote that if you haven't read that book is Amazing, let me look for it. Well, can you really get Claudio? Can you repeat that saying again one more time? The devil knows more for being old than for being the devil. Oh shit. That's great But there's there's a book That I think it's called outwitting the devil by Yes, dude, there's a part in that book where Napoleon Hill is Interviewing the devil those 15 minutes are magical If you are open to hear them out without any judgment Because it basically saying that the world the universe is supposed to be in balance And I I'm always telling my kids if you believe in good people You have to believe that there's also bad people So you have always you always have to be not scared You always have to be aware and this is more like trading There's buyers and there's sellers. So they're supposed to be a balance That's why I always say that the frontier is be what if you're the price action is over be what then Bulls are in control if the price action is under be what shorts are in control perfect balance Bro, it's so funny that you said that because twofold I watched Star Wars the last Jedi last night and it was all about like What is the force and balance and it's equilibrium? It's good. It's bad at death. It's life. It's so funny But second one of the things one of my most famous sayings over the last seven years And I've always said that I said this before I was a traitor back when I was in film school Because this applied but I've got a saying that I always said I said You have to know your weaknesses But you inundate your strengths So what that means is is I don't ever like obsessing over my weaknesses It is a really good learning lesson to look at your failures and look at what's you know Oh, awesome. Jay trade says the book. Um, it's a really good experience Kind of like doing a delve or like a deep dive within yourself and being like, okay Like what am I not good at? How can I get better? But inundate your strengths, bro Go put a magnifying glass make those the best you can because when people focus on lack Negativity no money depressing relationship watching tv all day letting their brain rot You just waste away and your again every single day the power of success is focus And the way you're going to get good in trading is like what I just said at james and harry It's focused dude. They're focused men And that's why I say that Uh, m. I see is the gift in terms of community Because all the mud and all the people here Have gifts for you if you don't like shorting then you hear what aloha and harry are commending Commenting the whole day if you like shorting you hear out bow There's a perfect balance in the community and if you come in to the community and you know, you know trading Humble up just hear out And just learn and then you see who resonate you with more so who you resonate more with you know And then you and you don't want to be the jack of all trades like you just said to us you have to focus Well, and it's like Well, yeah, yeah, go go ahead claudio. Sorry. No, no when you focus magical things start to happen You know, you have to start Looking to what what you love what you're passionate about You don't want to be longing and shorting because it's difficult Right difficult because you have to change your mindset and people I know people do it But I I haven't seen a trader that is good shorting and longing at the same Degree, you know, I I still I would love to know know him to study him to see what he What what he does different, you know, it it's very hard. I I have tried to master it over the years It's very hard. I realized I'm much better swing trading long and I'm good at Having price targets where I don't have to be glued to my phone But I'm not a I'm not an amazing long day trader. So I stuck to swing trading with that I'm a good short selling day trader. So again, it's like know your know your weaknesses But build upon grows obsess over your strengths and make those better The reason why I pulled up amc Is yesterday this is yesterday's chart on amc. Let's talk about this for a second So claudio just mentioned exactly what star wars mentioned exactly what the force of the universe is its balance It's equilibrium the way that m i c operates. There's no bias for anything And and harry could tell you this claudio could tell you this davron could tell you this Everybody could tell you this the way we operate is a set of rules and a set of process that work So if you're fighting m i or amc not m i c amc on the long side yesterday's short Of course you got squeezed. Why would you do that trend is intact? It's over v-wap. It's going It's past zombie hour Then it starts really breaking down in the trend subsides And I know people that were longing and continuing the long dip under here. That's craziness to me, bro What this is is a short once this proves that the trend is over. This is the point This is an ecosystem of traders that without a bias and are Predominantly subject to the rules of day trading which are really like three things Don't fight trend pay attention to v-wap and put hard stops in this is why claudio davron Harry a loha trader all of us can make money There's a balance in the chat and that's what i'm so proud of in m i c Yeah, and like I think on this one like I mean, I don't necessarily Necessarily like hate that long there at like, you know, let's say 60 50 or anything like that But when it doesn't work, you just have to cut harry's talking about right here Yeah, like right there. Maybe even a little bit underneath. I don't hate that idea But if it's not working for you, you need to cut that out right away like immediately Like if that shits keeps falling like you got to get out like you need to cut you can't be holding all the way down to 57 Like you just can't be you have to say, okay. I'm wrong I'm going to get out with minimal damage and maybe you try along down there at 58 57 And you make your money back and you sell back up at 60 But for me taking along at 60 holding all the way down That's just that's a recipe to blow up your account nine times out of 10 And some people did get bailed out of that But for me, that's just you know, not gonna work Well, you know the reason why I like that you said that harry is because this is the line where I was gonna say guys It actually doesn't become a first bounce or a good support area and it becomes a short on this candle This candle alone proved to me that oh Longs and dips should not actually be bought if you do more power to you, but you are breaking process And guys one thing that I wanted to add to what you're saying 99 percent of the people that blow up Is because you didn't have a fucking and that fucking I want to put underwrite it 20 times you don't fucking have a stop Love man, seriously, bro. Yes, man I've been I've been hearing stories of mic members for the past week Blowing up and the only reason they blow up is because they don't have a max stop loss on their accounts and they don't have Stop loss I said this a couple of weeks ago and I'll say it again When you go into a trade you have a plan That plans is supposed to come be composed of three things simple things one where you're going in two Your stop loss three your target If you get stop out your plan no longer work Then you have to reassess and see if the line was wrong If you do that, you will never blow up an account and I'm saying it like really Slowly so people can understand The reason that all the mods are here is because we don't blow accounts We are here for the long run I don't risk more than one thousand two thousand dollars a day because I I've been having bad days But my bad days are a hundred dollar two hundred dollars A hundred dollar and then in one day I make four thousand five thousand dollar and it cover up They're they're they're traders out there in the world that are not part of what I see Loan swing traders that I look up to and their winning rate is like 20 to 25 percent So that means hell, right exactly 75 percent of the of the trades that they make Are they stop out they stop out with a manageable stop? I think that will not blow them out or will not make that will not damage their account. I'm okay Having a hundred two hundred dollars Lost days because one day I'm gonna make two thousand three thousand dollar and I'll make that that thousand dollar that I lost Plus two thousand dollar and more a simple math guys If you want to if you want to keep trading consistently You have to be disciplined and the way to be disciplined is to having a max stop plus on your account And a stop loss in every trade that you make hell. Yeah Period that's it I really wanted to add to this one. Yeah, bro. I was gonna say dude. This is this is something you dealt with right? Let's talk about. Yes. Yes. I really wanted to add to that actually everything is true because Before I put it. Well, I'm very emotional just like, you know, you were talking about gosh You're emotional and I like to fight right that's my personality and like even even if I get in a fight in a street fight Right, you don't have to kill me before I back back down. I don't give up. I just don't give up, right? So I would make a lot of money. You don't have kids, right? I don't know. I don't touch neither, right? Okay Okay That mentality will change when you have kids. Okay. Go on. Sorry. Sorry to interrupt. No, no, no worries, bro Yeah, so like before that, I would I would be very consistent right two weeks three weeks I was consistent two months straight back in january and february and then uh march game I want to lose a streak right? I was losing two or three four thousand dollars a day, right? And in a day I shouldn't be losing it's like, you know, because I might keep my account around 35 000 So which is you know more than You're kind of 20 percent, right? You can't know what you mean. You cannot never make it back Yeah, you can't make it back, you know, I mean you can but it's like it's really really difficult You're mentally not in you know, not in order, right? So what I did was I took a month break after that, right? Even though I was up, you know for the year, but I took a month break I really wanted to you know analyze what I did and how I can improve how not to let it happen again So and I can't watch video lessons. I remember tosh mentioned put a broker level stop loss So I'm like, why not why not I try that? I mean, I'm keep I know how to make money But I don't know how to keep it what one or two days blows me up like why you know So uh, and I put uh, I was like, all right cool. Let's start small first I put a two like I started with 33 000 account again So I put a a 50 stop loss and usually starts to have like a 1k, you know With slippage and stuff so 1k stop loss, right? So since I did that, I was, you know, obviously you need to adjust your size So you can't size up too quickly or it's gonna you're gonna blow, you know, you're gonna trigger it, right? So you have to trade appropriate size according to your broker stop loss So as soon as I started that I'm very consistent this month. I'm I'm up a lot, you know this month um, and uh, yeah, so I only hit it three times last week my my my uh My broker stop loss, but my one day I made it all back in one day Since I kept my losses so small like, you know, 800 each That's the power bro of protecting your mental. That's the power of hard stops One day I made it all back and the reason I lost those three days in a row because I wanted to push size You know, I'm like, all right two days a day I was consistent for, you know, you know a week straight now I want to push some size and I forgot like my my stop loss is not appropriate towards my, you know, uh for the size I'm taking right So then I kind of triggered it even though I was right on the trade to start working after that But it worked me out, right? It worked me out. So now I know how to size in correctly And you know when opportunity is there, you know, I make sure that I take a little bit But yeah, it just if I didn't have the stop loss that day I would probably get emotional and blow up, right lose all my profits on the month Now I'm still up very nicely on the month and I know how to manage risk, you know Like it's my my last resort is my broker stops me out and I'm done And if you have that under control then, you know, one or two days of work You're gonna make it back because that's like Devron, let me let me add to that dude because that is so brilliant And there was one thing that you said that I want to address because dude, I'm the same It sounds like you and I are really similar personalities, bro I'm a real quick trigger. I'm quick to anger and I'm immediately back down to equilibrium 10 minutes later I've literally had fights where we got in a fight and we're best friends after the call like dude That's just that's that's kind of sometimes how I operate. I'm a quick trigger Midtown knows and uh and the thing is that's going to show up in your trading, bro And it's shown up in mind for years in the first three years of my trading, bro It was fucking hard, bro It was so fucking hard to be a trader because like devron said if I'm shorting front side Which mc didn't exist back then and bow wasn't there like saying dude. Hey dipshit Why the fuck are you shorting a low float micro on day one, bro? I fight it I bring my ego in I'm emotional. I can't take this L. I can't let this beat me But then you don't have hard stops back then you're blown out of the water And then your career is just at least not necessarily done but you're mentally fatigued like a candle on its last breath So what davron's saying, bro is yes, you should have a hard stop in your trading Bro, if you're an emotional guy if you're a quick trigger like me and davron seem to be and and bow seems to be bro You can't survive without hard stops. I promise you Yeah, I promise you man Guys today's homework seriously if if you're like us You call your broker call cobra or whatever whoever your broker is, you know You're not supposed to be losing more than two or maximum five percent of your account on a day anyways So just call them and just set that broker level stop loss that way you have a safety net When I treat it it gives me more confidence to be honest like okay, I might be wrong on this But hey, I can't I can't lose more than $850 which I can make back tomorrow or the next day, right? So it's that confidence actually makes me a better trader dude There's no worse feeling in the world Then going to bed at night because you're swing shorting a low float and you literally can't get a second wink sleep And you're doing all the research. Do you know how many times in the first four years? My trading career is in that position then guess what I realized stop going for home runs Put a stop and you'll never lose a wink of sleep again Yeah, and I think one one point on that just like the sizing up because I You know, I heard you talk about like sizing up Um, I think for me as far as like as far as the max loss like you you definitely need to have that Um, like I definitely agree with like everything there 100 you need a max loss bow has said it Probably a million times in his instagram lives. I'm pretty sure he says it like maybe like 85 times per instagram live that he does out as well where you just need that But I think as far as sizing up like you have to say like, okay, like You know, there should be two sizes for sizing up number one should be like your normal size for scalping like saying, okay I'm gonna gradually size up this normal size for scalping You know, it doesn't mean that you need to go from a thousand shares to two thousand shares or a thousand shares to four thousand shares You know, you could just size up that gradually and like super small and like incrementally But you should also have another like little size for like the a plus setup size We're saying like, okay, I know that I win on first red days a lot I'm going to add more size on that first red day setup because I'm good at it because I went on it But I'm gonna keep my scalp size the same because I know that I'm maybe not the best at scalping Or maybe I've had a good week scalping and I'm going to slowly slowly slowly size that up But on the first red day setup when that one comes around a couple days a year like Alex nailed He made, you know, a million dollars in a week half million dollars, whatever Um, you know, you should say big big size for that and you should say, okay on that setup I'm going to have a lot of size on my scalp size I'm just going to slowly slowly slowly size that up because those are just the day to day scalps That's just feeding me. But you know, I'm going to get really really really rewarded on that first red day setup, you know, like stuff like that Yes, I totally agree. Yes. So there's size in and then there's time to scale I think I think and this is how I'm I'm going to do it because I'm planning to take in my trading to the next level next level is I talked to Brian Brian is our m-i-c-c-b-a And he made a I made a company an LLC. So In next month, I'm going to start trading under a company with a business partner So we're going to have to computer side by side and we're going to do it by levels So by level means that I'm not going to be able to trade at the same Time more than a thousand shares until I feel comfortable trading more than a thousand shares And then I'll size up to maybe 1200 or 1300 shares Because I was actually doing three four thousand shares in my swing trades And because there's some things happening in the near future for in my life that I'll tell you about them more Other than the book I've been and I've had I have had the need to size down and I'm trading right now 100 200 shares Trades because right now I I need to do it like that until the things that are going to happen happen So imagine a person that it's trading is trading a thousand two thousand three thousand four thousand share lots To go down to 100 shares and I'm doing it because I'm starting all over again And with the company now I'm going to have a salary and I need to trade intelligently And the other thing I wanted to add Have you ever guys think why alex about do 30 thousand dollars account? So one is because of of the fact that That's the minimum that you need a healthy account to trade But haven't you figured out that alex and bow can have hundreds of thousands of dollars account And trade it way way bigger the the fact is that How I see it is 30 thousand dollars Is something manageable Something that someone if you commit to it can get it going and you can start trading now They do wonderful things with those 30 thousand dollars But those wonderful people that do wonderful things have paid the price and what is the price Harry just said it 20 minutes ago even though they're not trading They're in front of the computer and that's something that malcon glad was saying one of the in his book You need to train at least 10 thousand dollars 10 thousand hours in order to get good at something So that's what harry's doing harry's putting the work alex and bow already did that harry's next James is next aloha is next tosh is next i'm next I'm their their days that I don't place a trade. I play two plays two trades today That's it one option trade and one trade. That's it That's it, but I've been watching all the price action So it gets memorized. So it's natural natural for me in the future once I see the setups That's why alex is so good on that damn low hand first red day because he's just waiting for the setup He has internally he's a picture for him. That's why he do it Dude, I love it, man Fuck you claudio's the man, bro. That that was a lot of really good experience talking. Yeah, that was great, dude Yeah, and I mean like Right, it's gonna be like like I was listening to like I mean like I'm not I'm not saying that like You know, I'm not a big boxing god But you know, I was watching some of the things that floyd mayweather was saying like talking about his work ethic And like a lot of people were talking about him and saying like, you know, he's always in the gym You know, he's always working. He's always getting better, you know And if you look like I mean, I don't care if it's hockey soccer Any sport like you look at those guys, they're training every single minute of every single day You know, look at the top traders in the world. They're doing the exact same thing too So like if if I'm waking up in the morning and I'm putting in one hour a day of work But fucking alex tamiz is waking up early in the morning staying till the close You know, he's gonna beat me. So it's like, you know, I even said this to alex like, yo I looked at how much work you were putting in and I was like shit I got to do better than this guy. Like I love alex, but I was like shit I got to put in as much work as this guy. I got to work as hard as this fucking guy And you know what the what the mentality is of harry saying that right now, dude I saw that floyd mayweather documentary he said and literally this is almost verbatim He goes, look, I'd hang with my billionaire friends I'd be like, look, your yacht's cool, but show me how to get the yacht your car Cop yourself. I want that show me how to get that Yeah, facts 100% 100% And and working and learning is not the same as trading You don't want to getting to the mc community and start trading like bow and alex you need to learn Work watch the videos and practice practice practice in a paper account for you Then to start going in baby steps You cannot go in and do 2000 3000 share lots like alex and bow those 5000 share lots if you have never traded a hundred share lots. It's by level It's a blueprint. It's exactly Dude, you don't just your first house you unless you're ballin and super rich, bro You don't just go buy a two million dollar house. I mean fuck ask midtown, dude He's a real estate agent on the side. The point is bro, you probably start with a starter home Then you build up you level up even getting started in real estate You don't be grant card on tomorrow with a hundred unit apartment complex without knowing what a multifamily three units like it's do You gotta level up, bro It's an evolution of your success You need to learn how to do a hundred dollars a day for three weeks a month What you feel comfortable in order to level up to 200 and then to 400 and then to 800 And that's the way you do it level up just by levels period And then that there are people that that say like alex says a lot that he's not Worry about the pnl. I am worried about the pnl because I need to see where I'm where I'm winning or where I'm losing Because the moment I don't feel comfortable enough with my pnl in terms of losing I'll get out That's why I got I have a hundred to hundred dollar day losses and that's it Well, let me let me play some right there. So when alex says that remember guys that is also based on an emotional level I have been doing this seven years and I cannot not look at the pnl. I just can't dude I'm not as steady of a mentality or a mind that is as hard as a rock when it comes to that stable I'll never be able to not look at pnl. I know that about myself. I'm emotional That was the same way But alex can just dive into and eliminate those emotions like a terminator And if that's not you you don't have to beat yourself up But there are things that you can do like how do you saying where you can mitigate it a little bit or at least not Obsess over it and fucking only stare at that and you can actually focus on your process in the trade and that's size And harsh I was I was when I first started very very emotional Like when I well, I actually started in high school like similar to the twins similar to A lot of the like xander and there was another guy who was younger. He was just on Yup, sorry. His name starts with an s. Anyway, I started when I was their age and when I first started like I was very very emotional You know, I would always like stare at the pnl But now as I've kind of gotten older I find that for me at least has kind of gone away I mean like I'm I am like I'm I'm emotional too, but like I haven't really been that emotional the past year really at all Um, and I think for me it just can't yeah, samuel. It just came over time for me um, and you know, also My trading has really um, you know turned into more of like a reflex thing now where I like You know a lot of the times like I don't need to wake up anymore and start slamming buttons Like I really don't care and I really don't give a shit and you know There can be days where like maybe I'm in uh a pre-market trade early and you know It works good for me and then for the rest of the day I'm like shit. I don't really see anything and then we get after zombie time and I'm like, okay I really don't see anything. I'm okay with just watching bow and everyone else trade and just learning and watching It's saying, okay, six dollars is the resistance line. This is where I would be if I was shorting this Okay, eight dollars is the resistance line. This is where I would be if I was shorting this and then you see bow Post the chart and even bow today was like you fucking knew I was gonna fucking be there I was like, yeah, you're right and um You know, that's just that's just really it. You know, that's just been my process every morning The more you can detach from the money and just say to yourself Okay, this trade isn't making my car payment or this trade isn't paying for my apartment This trade is a pure process trade and if I'm looking for $500 on this, but you know Maybe maybe we we we can't get past five dollars and you know, I was looking for 500 and we're only at 250 Or we're only at a $300 trade You know, you got to take it off there and you got to say, okay This is what the market kind of gave me today or maybe you get into trade and you want to make a lot of money But things just aren't working in the first minute or two or three And you got to get out for break even because the market just isn't giving you what you want You know, that's part of being a trader That's part of really just kind of like being in this game is really saying, okay You know, you got to take the money when you have it and when things aren't working You got to size down and that's just really, you know, been the secret to my success You know, it's it's slow and consistent, bro We'll win the race every time because to kind of piggyback on that Harry Is what people don't understand if you're trying to go from home run and just trying to milk the most amount of money every single day Is the reason why it's going to set you back is because you're not taking into account your mental stability You're taking account into only money and this game is not built on only money It's built on a 50 50 split of mental if that's aligned with your trading account and profitability, of course So if you have a starting point from a to z And you go from a to d and your consistent base hit base hit base hit And then you have a little hiccup say come, you know f or g or whatever h bro If it's little and protected by the time you get to z it's all still profitable your mental's intact You're on your way. You're totally consistent if you try to go for a home run at c or d And you strike out and that's the that's the one you didn't protect yourself And the home run turned into a home run on the opposite side like like a negative home run Bro, you're starting back at point a with no mental clarity So the guy that gets chipped along from you know h to p to q you're gonna have little one step backs But by the time you get to z dude, all of it will make sense your mental clarity is intact I swear to god, bro But when you go from okay a is gonna be a home run b is gonna be home run c is gonna be home run By the time I get to g it's gonna be a grand slam boom your smoke back to a back to b Back back back Tosh do you mind just pulling up like the alf chart? Oh, yeah, yeah, let's do that Um, so like this is something that I was kind of talking about this morning If you just kind of zoom into that kind of like just channel like after it had that big chat room pump crazy run You just okay, so let's say let's say you're shorting 750 for instance. This is a broken stock not really along Let's say you're shorting 750. Okay, but there's two scenarios that can happen Number one, you can cover at support every single time so you can short 750 you can cover at support You can short 750 again. Okay, maybe it only gets down to 720 you can cover there You can short, you know 750 760 again cover at support How many times did that line pay but how much would that have paid you if you were just holding for an all day fader It wouldn't have paid you shit. Do they don't exist anymore Yeah, you would have banked if you were just shorting covering shorting covering shorting covering So that's what I mean by the real bow and I mean now it's dumping. We're at six nine now But how much headache would you have had to gone through if you were just kind of shorting 760 and you're like, okay This is a fader. It has to fade. It has to fade So instead of doing that all day fader home run mindset You can just cover at support wait for it to go back up again and take that same scalp again And you're making dollars, right? You are making dollars Instead of finally making a dollar and having to go through all that mental pain Maybe you could stop that a couple times that just sucks You like this channel is just perfect for this kind of example Dude, I love that and the thing about time-based trading which it tells you you actually don't have a short edge right here This this should technically bounce right here Which is obviously not a recommendation to buy or get in you could actually crowd the trade if all you did But it should offer a bounce right here and probably hold up because the time-based trading for shorts Just don't have the edge and again look at outer lines if you're longing at 720 Thinking that okay, it's going to bounce at 720 or right here in the middle chop You're going to get fucking chopped up, dude. You're going to stop right out You're going to stop out right here. But if you long it wouldn't it just touch 680 as I was talking about this Literally, dude. It's already up 10 cents meaning that's an outer line. I know where the channel set up Let me wait for the outermost line. What's the outermost line? Well, obviously common sense would tell you if it's using the range of the channel It's going to be near 680. Maybe it's 687 to maybe even under a little bit Maybe 680 so you're risking 10 cents to maybe make back upwards of the channel Maybe a breakout because it's late day and shorts are probably going to do a late day I don't know this could fail But that's how you do very small risk You're saying if I long at 680 based on this bounce of the channel based on it should hold up And I make it to 720. What am I risking 10 cents to make 30 40 cents? That's how you do good in trading. But again, I'm just using this as a very blanket random example. There are Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry to interrupt. So there are people There are people asking in youtube how do you Get into m.i.c. So I think you should put that same message that we have on the that you have on the In the hold on one side I'm moving to youtube too so they can hear out because there are a couple of questions here Let's see if I can do this Just copy and paste And I think we we were leaving the the last 20 30 minutes for questions. So if anyone has any question Yeah, guys, if you just as a general if you have any questions getting there Literally just text my business line two and three four five eight five nine and seven I will hook you up bro. And if you watch this webinar I will definitely hook you up because I only give the major promos or a coupling factor of like an accelerator Of course to the guys who put in the work every wednesday with me. So, you know, just We could even do a code at the end. So I know you watched but But the point is guys Is m.i.c.'s a team of three mentors who created m.i.c. me alex and bow and 18 plus Moderators and we're always looking for more if we feel that you will truly be an asset to m.i.c. And help me and look at look at this dude. Dabron's here cloudio's here harry's they don't have to be here But they want to help. This is our lives. This is what we do. This is this is the passion that wakes us up So if that's something you guys want to be a part of definitely get started text my business line We'll get you in but now that we have about I'd say like at least 15 more minutes. Do you guys have any questions? Let's let's answer some actual member questions right now. We can pull up a chart. Whatever you guys want Let's do some now that you got about three, you know, you got like three of us. So let's let and ask your questions now I love uh Touch they ask hi touch. Do you have what soft for international clients? Oh, you know what? No, so for that just go to my email Or send an email so uh instagram is at uh, what am I also we have alf bouncing 7 10 T bradley 90 underscore trader guys. I think that's me. Yes. Do not be confused with two underscores or um, you know Someone that says la y just there are scammers out there that try to mimic our freaking accounts I hate it so much, but again, there's only so much you can do about that. Um, that's me or um, also Email is tosh at my investing club Uh, com guys, there's many ways to reach me. So yeah Let me put this in the chat Check vi no is running halted. Uh, let's see halted uh shocker. It's oh and look at this bounce harry Dude, our freaking channel worked. What did we say? No? Yeah, I know. That's what I just said I was like check this out. Oh, I didn't hear you. Oh, I didn't hear you 680 dude was the channel bottom Look what it did. It's a perfect channel. Draw your fucking lines, dude I know I was laughing at that watching fans guys and the people that aren't youtube Just take advantage because this is golden I don't I don't think anybody else talks about what we talk every wednesday because we talk about everything, you know And being a trader is not just um What we talk here is way much more and m. I see how I think has the biggest library of videos Ever I I don't think there's a community or there's another chat room trading chat room that has a library That has everything we mod the moderators that do the videos actually are asking all of the time What you guys want a video of Because if it's not made we'll make it we'll gladly make it. Okay. Yep So we we run out of themes everything is in that video Literally, it's like what Ask harry harry goes crazy because he doesn't know what to Speak about you longer Well, you know what the beauty is of that claudio the beauty of actually running a feeling Feeling at least like you're running out of stuff to talk about is dude. That's true But the reiteration every single week is what you need to hear So if we say the same thing or you hear the same thing all the times and you do you know The dumb ass who's inconsistent says no no i'm good. I've heard that the veteran trader who's super profitable that wants to continually be profitable says dude I need to hear this every day backs backs right? Why do you think dude if you go back through chat bro? I swear to god If you go back through chat this morning in the main chat you will notice All my commentary in the first hour if it's not related to trend or stock or whatever I have time based things where I am literally warning you guys to use hard stops I'm warning you guys about zombie. I warn you every single day on the nose because I know it needs to be heard So that's the point dude Here let's talk about this vino real quick guys anybody that's getting um fomo and vino This is truly what looks like a pump and up or something on random last minute news I hate Shorting things with the name holdings in it. I do not I do not like anything with just that's red flag number one Do not chase this long and it's too late in the day to short. This is just don't be an idiot Don't be an idiot here This is this is pure fomo at the end of the day. Wait for tomorrow. Do your process join m. I see learn how to actually trade There you go. Stefan vino for tomorrow. Let's see what it does pre-market and yep bingo Yeah, um Yeah, this one for me. There's there's there's gonna be like no people short. It's just all gonna be long I imagine majority of people who are long are probably only seeing it now. They're gonna start chasing. It's gonna start dumping Um, you know, we've halted up, you know, not something. I don't even want to long miss it like seven bucks Like you just leave these alone Like the minute the minute you see something like this and any inclination that goes in your mind of oh my god I'm gonna miss out if I don't get in stop trading bro. Go take a walk take a walk Yeah, and yeah, that's such a toxic mindset too of like, oh, I gotta nail them all because I'm gonna miss out I'm gonna miss out Yeah, or it's like oh like I'm so good. I can just nail vino and just I can nail this stock I can nail that stock yada yada like just stick to the stocks where you have edge on clearly no edge on this Halted bunch of longs gonna start chasing like not bad for that Guys remember what we said cash is as much a position as actually being in a stock, dude I'm in a position right now. I'm in a cash position right now, which is not in the stock. That's a position I'm being smart with my money You're always playing as a trader if you're watching charts, you're in a position It's just people don't know that being cash is a position people don't realize that Yeah, and I mean, yeah This one I I would just not it's just not worth it, dude No, not not for me. Anyway, no, of course you can make money on a short or long But it's like did you really know why this is not something that you can rely on every day? This would have to happen every single day at this time for you to jj. What's up, buddy? Cash is king What you'd have to do is see this every single day at this time frame to know how to play it This is a one-off, dude. This is a one-off. Yeah, and we're I mean we're into nine dollars now nine Nine will probably end it or nine fifty. I mean, that's just it You know, I look at this harry and I go who gives a shit, dude I'll attack tomorrow if the process is there right 100 percent. Yeah, here's if it goes to 20 I could care less dude. Let let them have their fun Yeah, I don't think they're gonna have much fun I mean the range on this is insane like if you bought nine like you're already 50 cents underwater That's crazy right just right there in that one nine that one nine touch and kind of stop Yeah, nine's definitely ending this. See, uh, I mean and maybe it doesn't maybe it goes to 20 But I mean for me just no edge on this. Here's the only thing you guys pay attention to right now that That is your danger if you're shorting this you're crazy if you're longing it you're not as crazy But I still think you're nuts. I still think you're on crack. I still think you're on crack I don't think you're doing something, you know, that's not legal If you're shorting you're absolutely a nut job, but if you're longing you're less of a nut job but still a nut job Yeah, you're anyone else have any questions any questions guys last couple minutes Gotta catch them all say this mind. Yeah, I mean there are just so many people who are like man I want to nail every stock. I want to be the best Where it is building a position around the line and and averaging down again. I mean I already said this In my opinion if you have a plan And you're saying okay, I'm going to long nine fifty if nine fifty gets broken, you know I'm gonna get out. I'm gonna stop out But if you start adding nine forty and nine thirty, you know, that is where averaging down begins That's where you're not sticking to your plan. So I think building a position around a line would be like, okay I'm gonna I'm gonna get in like maybe maybe your plan is to buy nine fifty nine forty five And stop out maybe nine forty or something like that I mean, this is just like purely just random But you know, when you're when you start adding at nine thirty, that's averaging down Right and and you're trying to to average it down because you're wrong and you don't want to stop out And you stop start biting that is averaging down and that is just not part of the process not correct at all Don't fuck man. There's a big difference guys between Adding to a position or adding to a loser and guys that longed at nine are adding to a loser right now At seven eighty guys that are entering it may be seven fifty for a last minute first bounce That's more adding to a position if it's seven fifty is seven that's pre plan anything that's pre planned Pre plan, you know where you're gonna get in you know Where you're gonna stop out is part of the overall plan What that means is you're adding to a position whether you're adding short on the front side or on the way up on bounces Or you're longing on the way down anything outside of your plan You are now adding to a loser and hoping and praying guessing not process And I promise you you're gonna have a very dangerous road as a trader And if you're emotional like me and davron, fuck the world's against you bro If you have that mindset and you're emotional good fucking luck, dude We're real dude. We're real. We're not polished. We just want to talk it like it is man All these people want a front run give you alerts do all this bullshit. They're not communities They don't give a shit about you bro. They want to make money. We are here to leave a legacy We're here to educate you we're here So people don't lose their freaking harder and money bro minimum wage is like What seven dollars in some areas up to 15 at best? We don't want you losing your harder Do you know you know that I was speaking last week to a guy that I'm not gonna he's he's part of the community, right? Yeah, and and he he works for the onu for onu Yeah, it actually works for onu. I don't know how to say that in english or uh How do you say on with english? What is on onu is the international organization of nation Something like that. Oh, I know. I know what you're talking about claudin. Yes. How do you say that in english? That's like, uh That's like a prestigious job, you know, and the guy also trades and he wanted to learn and he went into m ic now He's he's not from united states. He's from Central south america i'm not gonna specify because he wanted to remain anonymous But the thing is that the guy makes the equivalent of less than 1600 dollars a month As a salary guys in a really good job and he's making and he exactly on a on a on a on a job that is um prestigious, you know, but it's not So people people that have not been out of the united state do not know The how blessed we are with that salary that we have because talk to talk talk to tondiso talk to bear To ask them ask them. What is the base salary? Where they are from? That my family is from chile. There's no minimum salary. That doesn't exist But the thing is that this guy is learning He he showed me his pnl for the past two months and he started making 20 30 30 dollars a day now for you Maybe guys that you're listening 20 20 20 30 dollars a day Shit, you don't do nothing. Sure. Sure for a person that is making 1600 dollars a month I've been that he he has been going off from 20 to 30 to now. He's making consistently every day A hundred dollars a day. Do you know what that's like for him in his perspective exactly? That means that if he's profitable every day of the month He's rich making exactly. He's making the amount of money he needs For what he's doing. He's 40 dollar and he's trading one hour one hour a day. That's it guys trading the first hour of the day That's it The m i c mission statement is not so you can get lamborghini's man It's so everyone has a fighting chance to build the life they want on their terms m i c Is here for the littlest guy possible to the highest guy possible and to find what works for you So you can create a level of freedom for yourself. It's not the lifestyle. It's not the lamborghini's It's nothing of show or polish. That's why alex doesn't even post this freaking lamborghini every day, dude Which he could he's even said publicly. He's got one. I've seen it. It's fucking awesome It looks like a batmobile the point is dude The point is we want you guys to just start making 200 bucks a day, dude It'll change your life 50 grand a year go not worry about groceries. Don't worry about red We want everyone to win and we want to give the littlest guy a fighting chance That's the m i c mission statement is every single person who is not obsessed with their life We want them to learn something where they can gain a new obsession With being in the driver seat and control of their own lives and find passion through their work To me m i c is about two things community and consistency It doesn't matter how much money you want to make If you're disciplined enough you'll make it to me m i c is about me being able to be at home every day with my kids after Getting out of puerto rico after a hurricane maria strike and basically destroyed our house And we came here to the united state with nothing i've said that story before right and for the next two years after I came here to florida I I went away from my home to work in georgia and I was working in georgia Watching my kids grow from a screen and going every other weekend to my home to see them So after two years of doing that and building And having money I came in and because of covet it's it's it's a long story But it's it's an interesting one. But to me it's not about the money to me It's about being right buddy exactly. It's about being here With my kids seeing them every day wake up and we doing things together now We're we're starting to do things together because everything is opening up right now You know covet and everything but but that's the thing you have to find a purpose Why not not why why comes from the past for what reason you want to be in m i c for what reason You want to make that amount of money it has to be it for what reason not why why it comes from the past For what reason comes goes to the future. It makes you look to the future and being the present moment What do you want to do? Being in m i c in terms of of goals Okay, it doesn't matter. Maybe it's the lamborghini. Maybe it is But it's not about that. It's about life life. Um How do you say that in english? Well, I think I think what you're saying claudia is the beauty is is some people the whole go Goal that gets them up every single day. Maybe the hurragon or the perfomance. Exactly. Yeah Some people it's just so they can spend their time with their kids at home, dude Find your purpose find your why I came I came just said it the purpose your purpose What do you want to do with your life? What do you want to do period? And oh, yeah, man Dude, that's it bow. Alex and I got together three and a half years ago with lawyers Creating m. I see and we said dude. We want to change as many people's lives as possible It was that simple. It was literally that fucking simple That's your and I think you're doing it Well, we're doing it dude. We take no credit man. It's the community bro. It's people like claudia. It's the It's the tenacity of harry. It's the knowledge of james. It's the passion behind now It's every single person in here, bro. Seriously and and and I'm gonna I'm gonna end up I'm gonna shut my mouth with this You attract what you are. I love that. So there are a lot of people in m. I see that are gonna be Compatible with how we are but we are real real persons. We're not all millionaires. I'm not a millionaire I I don't think harry's a millionaire and it wouldn't even matter if you were that's the most beautiful thing Yeah, the thing is that there's there's people that are gonna be coming into the community that are not are as us And that the the process is gonna kick them out So let's join. Let's just enjoy ourselves and learn All in community, you know, bro. I love it. I love it. In fact, dude Dude, if someone came to us and they're like, hey, I want to be a mod I made three million dollars this year and stuff dude. We'd be like, okay good for you like bro It isn't about that. It's never been about that. Can you help others? Can you show what you're bringing motivate? Can you be there for people? Can you pass the elevator back down bro? A lot of our mods are not 10 time trillionaires and jeff It's not about that That's the thing that people don't get when they go to these Furu services that are 60 dollars a month because big p&l's are posted They don't fucking get it bro. They're they're gonna get wiped out going to places like that. It's not about that What is your value added? What do you bring to the table? What's your value? Correct. What do you add? What what will the community like that will learn from you? Who you are that the way you are people will want to learn from you something That's that's the way And every mod here is a gift every mod here is a beautiful person. I love mama thai I call her mama thai. I don't call her thai. I call her mama thai Yeah, you know, I love I love harry and I I'm not ashamed of saying that I love men You know, it's like I respect them and because I respect them I can't say that I love them even though I haven't met any one of you That's uh, well I meet bow and alex. That's it. That's the power of the community though That's the power of human connection Yeah, I love the what we what what you guys have done and formed because it's nice. It's beautiful I feel like home here every day It's a home dude. It's truly a home man. Looking forward to seeing you meet down if you come I was just gonna say uh, every time I go to type in uh, tae's name I go at m a m a for mama and then I'm like shit. It's at ta. Oh, I've done that too I do that every time I've done that too Tae you're gonna change your name to mama tae. Yeah, we need Yeah, I think yeah, I think so, please And my suffering and Harry's suffering No, you guys are awesome, man. I I just can't get over how Just every single week, man. I get to connect with you guys on a level. That's super cool You know, thank you so much for the mods who showed up I know I know bow had to handle some work stuff at the back end outside of m. I see he had to do some stuff And uh, you know, I mean I hey man, if you guys are down every every once in a blue moon We can we can do an open discussion like this and just what does it mean to be a day trader? What does it mean to be a part of a community? What does it mean to spend your life Looking it up tick down tick and red and green and numbers flashing on the screen. It's crazy You're definitely a nut job for pursuing trading. We're all nuts. You're sick in the head But we can be that together and that's the point facts facts Yep, I'm such a fucking crack addict DJ. We all are bro We all are man. That's the point. So how can we get to the promised land together? Right I'm looking forward to meeting you all of you guys like that annual meet-up where we're we're gonna all try to be there You know, I'm looking forward to happen as soon as we can make it happen broad promises. We will definitely make that happen Yep I think this has been great This was fun guys. Seriously. This this was very podcast style. That's what I wanted Uh, and I had a lot of fun, man And uh, dude again, everybody here will provide value of some form to you. Don't just rely on me Don't just rely on claudio reach out to everybody get a taste of all the styles all the perspectives all the different life voyages uh backgrounds You're gonna learn a lot in this community from the people and that's what it was built on and that's where it's going to Continually leave a legacy on is the people of m. I see the wonderful people So guys with that, I'm gonna close this out before I um before this bell Defends all of us the closing bell of td guys. We'll catch you next week and we'll see what we'll do Maybe bell will be back for some live training but guys davron harry claudio everybody just showed up seriously guys. Thanks a lot, man See you guys. See you man. Bye until next time. Bye. Bye. See you on saturday. Yeah, see you buddy. Definitely