 This election in Taiwan is a special one because of the Hong Kong issue. Do you mind some general, do you mind some interference from China in this campaign? During the campaign session which coincides with the anti-ELAP protests, we've seen a lot of disinformation packages, for example from the中央政法委呈安件, the Central Law and Politics Union from the PRC to try to paint the protesters in Hong Kong as for example quotes, paying to murder the police, unquote, which is fabricated information, repreposing a Reuters image and things like that. The Taiwan Fact Check Centre have been doing a lot of attributions toward that kind of source of disinformation which is covert messages based on the overt political messages. How big is the influence? The influence is literally every day. If you look at the line dashboard which is a corporate social responsibility building from the line, it is a website that is built around the collaboration of the four Fact Check partners and so you can see easily the hundreds of thousands of flagged disinformation that people flagged and spun that lands on the line dashboard. And the voters have an eye on this, do you think? Yeah, of course. People generally are aware that there are disinformation which is defined in Taiwan as intentional untruth that causes social harm in the information landscape and the great thing in Taiwan is that we teach media competence education starting from the first grade in primary school and only consume this big information that actually go actively, contribute to the Fact Checking, like crowdsourced, the Fact Checking, there's thousands of people fact checking every sentence that the presidential candidates have said during their platforms and their debate. Now we're talking about the younger generation, what's about the elderly? No, the elderly are also actively participating in the clarification of their messages. I think part of the great thing in Taiwan is that broadband here is a human right. So no matter how remote the place or even the highest mountain 4,000 meters high, you all have 10 megabits per second guaranteed, if not, it's my fault. And because of that, the elderly, although they may less be capable of using the keyboard and mouse and so on, everybody can very easily pick up the phone and start live streaming. And so everybody is a media, a YouTuber, a journalist, regardless of their age and who's shared media competency education, a lifelong education, not just in the schools, but rather even in the elderly care homes and things like that. There are teachings, there are board games, there are interactive experiences designed to teach about media competency. What are your words? I think Taiwan is the first digital nation for you. I think broadband is a human right to really define democracy here. This at the core of liberal democracy is the idea that people can entertain their original culture from the viewpoint of a different culture. So this is not about silo multiculturality. It's about transculturality of looking at our democracy from the perspective from the indigenous people of the view of the mountains and rivers as people, as spirits, all the way to the new immigrants from Asian countries and from Ukraine, actually, who vote for the first time. She was the ambassador for voting for the Central Election Committee this time because she got her right to vote here in Taiwan and so on. And so basically this is becoming more like Switzerland where the common polity is centered around the democratic process that is enhanced, not replaced by the digital technologies instead of around any particular culture or ethnicity. At the end of another issue, please. There was last year a surprising verdict of the High Court about LGBT. Is this an issue now in the campaign or not? We settled on a pretty good implementation act, the Enforcement Act of the so-called Hyperlink Act of Marriage Equality that took marriage equality for the individuals, the couple that wed each other, but not their kinship, their family relationship. Because before 2007, Taiwan accepts social marriage ceremonies where the two families hold a ceremony together and that cements the wedding even before the registration. Of course, starting 2008, wedding become by registration only and so when we're legalizing marriage equality, we took great care for cross-generational solidarity by legalizing only the rights and duties, the bylaws of marriage, but not the kinship relationships, which is the in-laws of marriage. And so this bylaws, not in-laws formulation made the both generations accept and understand that their idea around marriage is not being threatened by equality. So this year it's not much of an issue anymore. This election was just about China influence Hong Kong, democracy and the future of Taiwan in general. I think this election is fundamentally about Taiwan's message to the world that we are firmly part of the liberal democracies that in the face of the authoritarian threat of the liberal democratic order discovering ways to disarm this information without compromising on the freedom of speech and freedom to assemble. And this is something that can be broadly applicable to every other liberal democracy as well against, say, exclusionary publicism.