 and stuff is like 10.30 at 3 p.m. At 3 p.m. we're actually rolling over into live panels. So this year we decided to step away from talks because we think talks are a little bit too one sided and we want to get that conversational aspect. So we're doing some really awesome in person panels. 3 p.m. today we're doing threat hunting at scale. Right after that we're doing leveling up your security skills, which is really focused on your progression in your technical abilities. At 5 p.m. I'm actually running a cloud panel on the Cloud GFIR and engineering around that. I'm a big cloud person. And then tomorrow we also have challenges in control validation at 3 p.m. Then we have making your socks suck less. Just that was gonna be really fun. I know a lot of people were looking forward to that one. And then we're gonna close it out with latest and greatest in the incident response. But you've covered it on. So I'm gonna post back a little bit because there's so much going on. I wanna jump back to you said there's like kind of these modules going back through the attack chain. Are those things anyone can do at home or is that only at home? Yeah, so we're actually going to be doing this year round. Really? This whole project, everything's gonna be, all the recording's gonna be posted online afterwards. And it's just gonna, it's gonna be something where people can join the conversation. So if you go to bluetoothinvillage.org we have a link to our Discord server where you can participate year round. And we have a whole project of city and group. You can interact. There's a small CCF going on as well. That's more information about that on the website. By the way, I am absolutely floored that you're like we're able to keep this conversation going. There is legitimately right behind the camera like 15 people coming up and down. This whole room is filled with hundreds of people. Like kudos to you because even I'm struggling with this. You're doing the harder job as you're talking so much. No, you know it's a lot of fun. And like bluetoothinvillage is really about taking people where they are and helping them get to the next level. Building their confidence in their technical abilities. And also I mean bluetoothinvillage is the closest aligned to like what the industry, like what an industry is. So we want to make sure that we kind of get people involved and really and help them develop those skills. So that's our whole mission. I do have a question. We were just at the red team village. And now we're at the bluetoothinvillage. And is there a rivalry there? Or is this kind of like? There's no rivalry. I have no idea what you're talking about. I am laughing because you start looking at the two villages and you start seeing people like feel like they're taking sides and whatnot. Def kind of, I don't know. They have the red shirts. So am I allowed in here? No. Well, yeah, we wouldn't be here without the red side. The red side wouldn't be here without us. And we're either going to like walk into the hallway and have a little foam sword fight with the blue-haired people and the red-haired people. Or hey, maybe we'll just like do some crossover and make purple team village and everyone will be happy. There you go. So with some of the challenges, so I'm going through the tag chain. When you're going through, is there some people there to be able to like help you through them? Or are they, are these made for experts or this is made for like anyone who just wants to go ahead and get started? We're really trying to make it approachable content that anyone can access. So a lot of them are really focused on kind of like just that, that introductory. The stations, we have some peer court of content that people are listening to with headphones. We also have people available to answer questions. And on the main stage right now, we're also doing live walkthroughs where it's a little bit, you know, it's less hands-on and more of like explaining about kind of what's actually going on. So, you know, we kind of have a little bit of everything. And again, like I mentioned, it's going to be year round things. So, you know, eventually we're hoping to expand it to the point where we have a content that's approachable from whatever level someone is at. And where can they go to learn more about it? BlueTeenVillage.org. Oh, that's an easy one to remember. Hey, I know you're running about, you have so much else to do. Oh, Gower, you had a question. Oh, how long you've been coming to DEF CON? Oh, so this is actually my fifth year because I started as a BlueTeenVillage volunteer and privilege escalated my way to director. Well, okay, hold on. How did that happen? Like, how did you go about, I need to hear that. So, I just, I knew one of the guys who created this, Vioxx, this is his handle. And I just volunteered the first year and I'm like, I think volunteering is such a great way to get introduced to DEF CON because there's just so much going on. So, it's easier to start somewhere when you start as a volunteer. So, and I just stuck around and then suddenly I was like, oh, I'm willing to do these things. Okay, I guess I'm a director now. How many of those stories happened here? Oh, yeah, I started, I came to the village, I volunteered and now I run that. Yeah, this is incredible. Thank you so much. Thank you for taking the time to talk to me. Like, there is really so much going on. Thanks for watching and hack on.