 So there's this divide among 2020 Democratic Party presidential contenders when it comes to Fox News You have people in one camp like Bernie and Tulsi who believe that it is You know, it's reasonable to want to go on Fox News to try to reach those new voters You wouldn't otherwise reach and then you have people like Elizabeth Warren who refused to go on Fox News because she doesn't want to Legitimize them now. I have come to agree more with Bernie and Tulsi here I was more sympathetic towards Elizabeth Warren's argument a couple of months ago But I've come to realize especially after seeing Bernie Sanders performance that it's really important to go on Fox News Because regardless you may not win over every single person who's tuning in but you need to at least try to reach some of them But certainly one thing that I think we all can agree on is that if you want to get a particular message across the Donald Trump You should absolutely go on Fox News Absolutely without question because You're not gonna reach Donald Trump if you go on MSNBC Like if you go on Chris Hayes's show and you say this is my message to you Donald Trump, you're wrong Mr. President he's never gonna get that message But if you have something very specific that you feel as if he needs to hear The only possible way you're gonna reach him is by going on Fox News You can tweet at him But I mean he probably has like millions of people tweeting at him every single hour So the best bet is to go on Fox News now Tulsi Gabbard went on Fox News And I've been incredibly impressed with her lately because she's been speaking out vociferously and passionately against Donald Trump's saber-addling against Iran because it seems like we're inching closer and closer Towards war. We're trying to use overwhelming force to kill their regime economically possibly catalyze regime change that way But with that being said John Bolton is essentially steering the ship, which is what it seems as an outsider and Donald Trump He may have campaigned as someone whose anti-intervention But there are warmongers in his administration that are hell-bent on invading Iran So Tulsi Gabbard did what I think is the smart thing and she went on Fox News and called out Donald Trump's warmongering Take a look I know you have some strong thoughts meanwhile on how to proceed with escalating tensions with Iran Here's the president on that yesterday, and I'll ask you about it after They're a nation of terror and We won't put up with it. The deal that was signed by President Obama was a horror show. It's a terrible deal the minute I Collapsed that deal and terminated it Iran went in a very bad direction. They're now suffering massive problems financially They have inflation that's about the highest in the world How should the United States proceed congresswoman? Let's talk about where we are now We're unfortunately and very Concerningly on the brink of war with Iran these escalating tensions have brought us here And like I said my experience as a soldier having deployed twice to the Middle East Service in Congress on the foreign affairs and armed services committees for over six years I'm very familiar with the region the cost of war and where this path leads us and the American people need to understand how Devastating and costly such a war would be how it would impact almost every part of our lives It would undermine our national security. It would strengthen terrorist groups like ISIS and Al Qaeda It would take a terrible Human to look the cost of of countless American service members lives my brothers and sisters in uniform the cost to civilians in the region Increasing the refugee crisis across Europe and it would cost trillions of dollars trillions of dollars that would come out of our pockets taxpayers pockets to pay for this endless war resources that we would not be able to use for Things like rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure and to build on that and to prevent that as a deterrent Will you give this administration credit for? Squeezing groups that are offshoots that are supported by the Iranian government just to report this morning Suggesting Hezbollah and Hamas are reaching out to get more funding and money because they're being strangled Would you give them that well the decisions that this administration has taken towards Iran have made things worse Not better. They have made our country the American people less safe Not more secure by pulling out of this Iran nuclear deal that there are some flaws And there are concerns that should have been addressed separately while maintaining and upholding the Iran nuclear deal To prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons instead by the Trump administration pulling out from this deal They've essentially given Iran an excuse to be able to Restart this Iran nuclear weapons program, which is something that they've started talking about something that makes us and the world far less safe So as president, I would re-enter the Iran nuclear deal I would work out the differences separately outside of that and Deescalate the tensions that are unfortunately bringing us to the point where we are at a brink of war with Iran So overall that was great I'm glad she went on Fox News and deliver that message because again if you want to get Donald Trump a particular message You do that by going on Fox News You never you know sacrifice your own values or abandon your principles But you just say what he needs to hear and that's what she did so I'm gonna get to what she said But first I want to address what Donald Trump said in that video because we didn't talk about this last week When we were talking about his warmongering, but think about how stupid What he said was Iran is a nation of terror and we won't put up with it You vetoed a bill That would have ended US support for Saudi Arabia's genocide in Yemen, but yet you're concerned about terror He has no ideological consistency whatsoever He has no strategy Additionally, he talks about how once he withdrew from the Iran deal their economy collapsed Well, yeah, that's because you reimposed Sanctions the reason why they joined at the Iran deal and agreed to those conditions Was so that way you would ease up on the sanctions So if you're telling me that their economy started to suffer once you reimposed sanctions my response is no shit So Donald Trump he's in over his head here And he has absolutely no idea what he's doing because in one breath He'll brag about withdrawing from the Iran deal, but in another breath He talks about trying to facilitate the same type of deal with Kim Jong-un in North Korea. It's it's maddening there's no Consistency here when it comes to foreign policy. It just depends on his mood. Well, you know, I like Kim Jong-un today So no war for him. Let's do an Iran deal with him But you know, I have a lot of people in my ear trying to convince me that Iran is you know this big bad boogeyman so Let's let's withdraw from the Iran deal there and Maybe invade so it's just it's so stupid and the more I listen to Donald Trump here on foreign policy The more I feel like I'm losing IQ points. So without being said getting to what Tulsi said So she makes the very powerful point that yes, if we invade Iran There's going to be a tremendous Economic cost it's gonna cost a lot of money, but most importantly, there's gonna be a human cost a human toll US troops will die Iranian citizens women and children and innocent men will die if we choose to invade for whatever nefarious reason John Bolton has in his head So that's unacceptable she also says what Donald Trump's administration has done with regard to withdrawing from the Iran deal and Ramping up tensions escalating that made us less safe. That is absolutely Correct because if you withdraw from the Iran deal and you start saber rattling Well, what are they gonna try to do? they're going to try to take action to protect themselves and Part of that maybe is actually getting a nuclear weapon as a means of deterring the United States from ever invading and With another country having a nuclear weapon, of course That makes us all less safe So, I mean what she's saying here is incredibly important The one thing that I took issue with is she said this about the Iran deal quote There are concerns and there are flaws that should have been addressed But pulling out was not the not the right answer. So I'm glad that she said it was a bad move To pull out from the Iran deal and overall she says that it was good But I actually don't really like that She said this because you kind of legitimize Donald Trump's reasoning for pulling out. So if you say that there were flaws I do believe it's incumbent on you Tulsi to prove what the flaws were So that's the one issue I took with this but overall the broader point and what she conveyed here was super important She said war with Iran is bad. It would be a disaster It'd be an unmitigated catastrophe and to say that on Fox News of all places where you will most likely reach Donald Trump That is incredibly important and the point she made was that it doesn't behoove us to escalate with Iran And it certainly wouldn't benefit anyone but the military industrial complex and war mongers like John Bolton and Mike Pompeo If we went to war with Iran So I give Tulsi a tremendous amount of credit because she's one of two Presidential candidates who have been speaking out consistently about the military industrial complex Nobody has said as much about foreign policy as she has but Bernie Sanders has also been speaking out a lot lately I expect more from people like Elizabeth Warren like she should be saying a lot more about why war with Iran would be a disaster But nonetheless, I'll take anyone who's gonna speak out and do the right thing and say the right thing And I'll praise them because this is incredibly important We need all hands on deck and the reason why I think that I'm so worried about the prospect of war with Iran is because we just Don't have an anti-war movement in America we see tensions building between the United States and other countries and People don't take to the streets. There's no real movement. There's no pushback from the media at all and Basically, we've just accepted that whatever the government does. Well, so be it We may not like it But certainly we're not going to mobilize and coalesce around, you know, stopping them from doing that But that's bad like we wouldn't need to rely on just two politicians Tulsi and Bernie if we took matters into our own hands and took to the streets and protested and built a really large anti-war movement, but it just it dissipated Whatever happened to the Vietnam War era and the protests whatever happened to the protests, you know against the Iraq war I think part of the problem is that we're all just We're so drained when we come home from work because we work so much We don't have time. We don't have the resources necessary to take time off of work to protest So it's difficult, but if we really want to stop the military industrial complex from basically doing what they want No matter who's president We've got to have a real anti-war movement and I don't know how to get that started But I know that there are two leaders Bernie and Tulsi who could potentially be the leaders of a new anti-war movement So if anything whenever they speak out, I phone Klein to praise them because this is incredibly important, especially now