 अन्हां शेड आपण प्रहतेंचु विठेंचा कि भी है हैं अद्तिन या स्थ प्रहो आपकोगडर कोंजा लेँग। बेगादर तो देखी वो थे चिलाटी तालिद में लिंग कुरेच्तो हैं आपने शृाँँ. आपने खुँछे extreme आपने अपने। अपने। अगर बाग जी अच्छी बाते कि आपने यह दिसकिशन पन्रा साल पहले नहीं रखा बारा साल पहले नहीं रखा नहीं तो शावद में इस भिल्ड़ में आपाता नहीं अएडीटर बन पाता. लेकिन आज वाखे में यह जरुरत है कि मीड्या प्रोफिषनल्स का भी एक सर्टीट्गिशन होना चाही है. कुछ न कुछ मेंडेट्री होना चाही है. है यह जरुग है के हम सीटीजन जरनलिस तरख है. हर आदमी को, हर नागरी को अपनी बात कहने का दिकार हो. लेकिन साथी, जो जवाब दे है, उनके लिए किसिन किसी तरगा सर्टीट्गिशन होना चाही है, पहली बात. तुस्री बात, कहिन कही एक मिस मेच है. मिस मेच इन एजुकेशन और मिस मेच. अफ्र देट एजुकेशन इन एग्जुकेशन. आज जब मैं बिजनिस मेटिया करता हो, तो मुझे वो लोग मिलते है, या तो जो भिस्टिस जानते है, या फिर वो लोग मिलते है, जो मेटिया के बारे मिल पड़कर रहे है. आप मैं बिजनिस जानलिजम में हो, लेके ना क्या जानलिजम के साथ आप बिजनिस भी पड़ रहे है, अगर वो कोमपिनेशन मिले, तो मेरे ख्याल से, ताफिभ बैहते नोगा. तुस्री बात, जब नहीं बात करते हैं, कि फ्रेशने सोनी चाहिए, नहीं बात धेबा, हैं विरे ना क्या से? एक जबी अगर प्रक्ष्यी लेगे है, विरे ना से, अगर धेबा जानलिजम के नहींजम के सगीए, विरे ना, विरे अगर ख़्गे देखा, वी तिभी क्रे रहे है, या अपनी बाद कमनिकेट करने के तरीके, वो शायत कहिन कही मीसिंग है। मैं आपको बताना जात्तों कि वैसे तो बिजनिस मेड्या का फिल बोछ छोटा है। तो यह फिल भी इंटिश नूज के खम्तरिजन मैं, हम लगबक दूगने है। अब आद्या, अब ओत आदी, अविषे जी, और सभी आजुकों का बहद-बद धनीवाद, मुझे बुड़ाने के लिए और सी मंच काइच्टा वनानी क लें। अब आपको लेग, आपको ठुड्देद, आपको यह बहुड़े अगब आपकी जोड़स के वितेगा। क्यँ भी लीगना आद अईं, और फ़ा इंदी करक्वाость देफात. एंचान विल नहीं, इन भी डोमेन वेड़ा हो चिर तो की लिग, बदियाखा वाद्राग, सुओ़ागिष्य, भो एर सुटिः कुते रगिविष्य धाए,गर भागी तरह जाए तु फुअए तर्ह बाद्राग, गयारा, डिक गयाखा, जर किजाई भागी इस्ट्तिए रगिविष्य कुते आद, परजत कियागा दब बागी थुच्ण्च ఇత్త్టిరం లావి్న్తైల్ల్డియర్ఔరం చరల్స్రం ఇత్యరిలింథరంిన్సకిఆందారిదార్నిందిందారియరి లూదిత్త్రందాలులులిపత్టరినాసంగి भी तो गाएग़ा के अंचानबाँ की वेदा ही वोग्गोंग के वेटां जब उतृ चक्त्तिशाना बाँग वेदा गाएग़ाका समंजी देगा तो लिएखेन कि बशेद प्रणों देगा की आजी तो उगे बगी ग़ागे तो अगे रएका के फ़ाएगे ढ़ारःा। । । । । उदेनार, नहाware, ूपुवासमे黎खांगे �ités्या। जब क्या पुआपा। शक्तीऊए partnering ःींखा। सब अवी याँ और दिनी़ना Somehow, why I'm visiting this point that our gentleman the last speaker said about certification of editors, when I was met the convener of that body I was assigned 2 jobs, first was to find out if some kind of a licence is necessary for becoming a journalist Oh, it said about chartered account surgeons have qualifications, chartered account자가robement their qualifications, lay-res canít be pact-tle without having a degree . To study if there could be some essential qualification needed for becoming a journalist Committee was formed, I was convener, went into the details आब आब अछ नोग money people can become a politician and rule the country, why do you want a qualified journalist. साई ओर साई लिःसे लेजी लेएिखका जलन्दा शाएशा। जो वो तो षवो वो व向 छीदटेबाग़ तुधों तो वो वो वेगर साईखुल थाएशा पात के रो रहा है। खोल साएशा अव़ी जलन्दा। सछॉन लेएा देख्छार रहा है और ओब निज में मैं वर्टाच कदूत्र कर छ़ती हैं। बाव सिरथ कर अखछाता। मैं अग्छ ब़दा's चीक कोई काुजां यहां ज़े है। में मैं वर्टाच कर चोँजां आप गुजाम। कर चंात आप आपशा कर पीआ शीथ कर कर शंदी है। अगर्ड क्या करहते हैं। अगर्ड करहते हैं। ख़ान बील्ँई मल्� body of media is required in this country. अगर्ड ख़ान बील्ँई म्हिदिया जिक्ची चिगखा। वब सेे बगदि candies, बने नहाझन मूल वावाब रहना隻 गह कोन विआस्ँ बन्मान जीनाम भी लग्ध वी बख्या द मुने मी framework grammat тоже Tony और त्या्न अँप और स्वल लाई लानग और भ़ाया ते लगमगा बेदलेंगाग। लोंग हमा दउन भी होगता। ये लीग बजके बीस मनिछ पर ते लीग हमेंठाया थे। अप चलेजा ये पाकेस्तान अब कोच्टारगता है तोये � अग ने ती न ऑली कर pin वैश्गम प्याने च्यागगी क्सी शोग वेश्गा स्प्या तढ़ात तरे प्रद्यादिच.. तढ़ात तो भी अं यो वो डिडिबस्छ कि यहा है तूछ कि मुझे वी भी वो दे है? T overall? Myelujah I would request the audience to kindly take their seats. As we move towards the next panel discussion for the day. Ladies and gentlemen as the world progresses rapidly towards digitization in all forms of life media too has भीपी सन्जे प्रो वाईस चन्सलर तमिलनारु यून्वार्स्टी अप प्रप्सर सीभी प्टनायाग दिरेक्ता अप नस्टिटुट अब नोलग, सस्चायतीज अप संचुर्यन यून्वार्स्टी भर्वनेश्वर्ट. लोट has been said since today morning on the state of media education, but it is also said that when standards decline in society, they decline for every field and every vocation and profession media is not something which is out of the box. लोट of people say the media has gone down, where the whole society went down. Look at what our universities were, be it the Alabad University, the Pune University or the University in Baroda, all those things. And Infosys, I read an interview of Narayan Murthy around 12 years ago. They set up a center of learning in Bangalore. Many people in the audience would know about this center and we in the media went to interview Mr. Murthy. And we asked him that why are you setting up a center of learning? You already hire engineers who pay a lot of heavy fees to get graduated and then you hire them. So Mr. Murthy then had said that we couldn't bother less if these were engineers and no. If even these boys were 12 pass boys, we would have recruited, trained them for our needs because what they are being talked to so outdated that any which ways we trained them, put them through a one year course. And now in this Bangalore center, we hire fresh engineers, put them through a course, pay them stipend and then skill them for our purpose. Just oppose this with the news media today. What is happening? A whole new meaning has been given to the term learn, unlearn and relearn. Learn in the media school. The first thing when you step into office, the first days you have to unlearn. Your boss will tell you okay, you forgot everything. You taught that and then relearn the ways of the working world. This actually tells you about the mismatch between academia and the industry. Laying this ground, I would now request my panelists one by one to lay down the ground. We would go left to right, my left to right. Sir, if you may please introduce yourself and then share your comments. Okay, my name is Devaka Shukla and I work with the Jaganlal school of journalism and communication at Jaganlal XGT university. That's in Bhopal. Background is that, I mean since this is a very illustrious gathering, not only of the speakers but also possibly of the audiences. Most of you are highly proficient in terms of academics and you come from a, done your researches and whole lot of things and then come into education in terms of teaching. There are lots of professionals I'm pretty sure who have after proficient getting into the work stream and then got back into the universities and teaching. So I'm also part of the second lot which is essentially I worked a lot of times in the industry, in the diverse industries. Worked in the social sector with the World Bank, worked with European Union actually, commission at the point of time. And then I worked for a long years with Ogilvi and Meethar which was an advertising agency. But I used to specialize in communication and strategies. Another point of time as always happens with all of us as people who are working that is you called over the weekends to do some lecturing, some guest lectures so to say. And as time passed I realized that and something which we were talking the morning as a part of a panel. There is a slight difference between the practice and the theory. Not too much of a difference but I think it's a question of a deployment. Theories come out of the practice and eventually if we lost the big compass that why the theories are there then eventually the theories start becoming irrelevant. And that's what the industry would start telling you, I mean whatever you teach in the universities is not relevant to us. So somewhere this was a kind of a challenge and dilemma and thoughts which used to get. So I said let me take a complete break from the corporate world and from the industry and start working in the university. And I'm very happy that Prof. Ranade is also here because he was part of a university there. And why I took his name is not because of the fact that he's here and I'm no name. But something which is part of the session that we are going to have and I won't take much time. I'll just put up a couple of points and then everybody can take it forward. The question was the media education then and now. So I was wondering what does it mean, what is the imperative behind this done and now where I realize it is more of a question of how and why. The world has changed and eventually we realize in universities and academicians we often lose the sight of the fact that when we tell our students also that you are ready for the complex world you will succeed and so what. But the fact is any curriculum in the media education has to be enlightening has to make them inspired and aware media professionals. Problem is that a lot of journalists and a lot of advertising professionals as well I'm taking a broader view to it. They know about media they know about the nuances of writing five blues and match and whole lot of things that come into play. But they really don't know the journalism and communication and media works in a society. So there was a question which which Vikram and somebody else raises. He said that you're not learning you're not reading. So how do we teach media and journalism and advertising to students. I mean when I say students I'm not taking in a cynical way. I'm talking about ourselves as people who are teaching. We never realize the fact that they should be learning the tricks of the taste reading literature. And a lot of I know professors are trying to do that. And recently I was talking to a student who is specializing in Hindi journalism Hindi journalism. So I asked him casually have you read Raghdarbari because Raghdarbari is a very similar work in Hindi literature. So at 50 years competition I said have you read Raghdarbari. So he said no eventually I pushed another student to asking have you read Raghdarbari. And that student was good. She said sir I have read Raghdarbari but translated version by children right. I've not read it in Hindi. How many if you not read Raghdarbari you never understand the nuances and dynamics of an Indian village in North India. Now how do you do journalism in North India in the village until unless you know the nuances of it. So my point is and that's where I'll raise the case is that it's not a question of the theories being right or wrong. What was then we are not romanticizing the past as well. What I'm trying to convey is I think the context have changed. So should be the universities and professors and accommodation as well as the scholars. We need to understand the dynamics are different context are different. We just need to tweak ourselves from that particular perspective. If you are able to do that I think we will again become very very relevant including the education part of it. Thank you Mr. Shukla for sharing your experience and your opinion with us. I'll go to Professor Sanjeev Bhanavath and sir I would like you to first introduce yourself and then share your opinions on this subject. No I've also said this but it's recording so it's important. I think we'll leave in 2 minutes. My name is Professor Sanjeev Bhanavath and I'm from Rajasthan in Vishuddhya Lai. I have been serving there for almost 4 decades. I have served there since then. I have received about 30 books related to literature. And since the last 2.5 decades I have been communicating with a media journal Trima. It is a two-word paper. I have been receiving it. From about 4 decades I have been working with Akashwani Doordarshan and other channels like Jaipur Rajasthan and their nationals along with them. There is a lot going on in the morning and there is a lot of time left. Like Satriq Adaksh Mohd had said that there are pre-lun session elections and there are also post-lun session elections. I mean I am making a mistake. What will be the situation of Satriq after the food? So let's go to the most important issues in all these periods. Media first and now. There has been a journey of about 1 shatabdhi. Dr. Neer Bhisant in the Arya University who had done the param bhik prath. After that, I think in all the universities of the country there is a lot of literature and studies going on. And the situations that have been discussed are not hidden from us. I have some problems as a person that the biggest challenge is the textbooks. Especially, I am not speaking in English. In fact, there are many books in English too. There are some attempts in the University of Mass Communication and in some periods the Press Institute of India. There were some books published there where we had studied the literature and something was hidden for us at that time. But now those books have become meaningless. Where we buy mobile in the morning, in the evening, it is painful in the mind that I wish I could have waited for a few more hours. I would have got a new technology mobile. So where the speed in which this technique is being changed how to connect with it we will be able to connect our media education. Because in Rajasthan, when I got the opportunity to start my education I had the opportunity to start my education. In that government system, as much as there is research and development, there is a lot of difficulty. I think that the matter is very much that the technology has been changed, the UGC money has been made, the studio has been made, the labs have been made, all this has happened. And when we order the equipment, till the time they are installed, till then they have become absolutely useless from the world of this media. So what is the challenge that we have for the management of the challenges that we have that experience trainer, that we can get, this is the second biggest challenge. In the end, we have to be patient. The people who are working in the profession they come there according to their time according to the situation. So the problem of textbooks is the second challenge to be able to use the power of those technologies. The third challenge is that we have a heavy feeling of journals here. In the morning, we had come, some foreign journals were taken, but in Indian literature, like the kind of journals, there is still some light in English, but for the students of Hindi and Indian languages, I feel that there is a very big challenge to lighten up the papers of their books. Because of this, because this is the discipline, some years ago, it has started to grow. As a discipline, in order to accept it, we have to try in different universities. This is a different challenge. In different universities, journalism has been taken somewhere along with the social science faculty, somewhere along with the arts faculty. In some universities, there are 2-3 courses, there too, a different faculty has been made of communication. So these are all challenges, that in the form of discipline, we have not been able to get that kind of knowledge, which has been able to get the knowledge of our other subjects. I have also said that, there is a lot of time in my mind, like the kind of political science, sociology, commerce, these types of subjects, they have been included in such a way continuously every year. But in journalism, I have done the three times of the India Media Educator Conference, Bhuvaneshwar Media Enclave, in the leadership of Mr. Andhraak, I have done all these, in the form of a subject, where we can sit and think about the challenges of our subject, we need these kind of possibilities, we can become such a subject association, which we can work in that direction. Which will talk about our media council, I don't know what the media council will be able to do, but the way UGC or AICT, which are our monitoring bodies, we can become such a body, and to create them, this is mandatory on the university, that before starting any competition like this, because I have got a lot of opportunities, whether they are committees, or at least in our Rajasthan, there are at least 25 committees, so the kind of situations, which are in the AICT and in the Mandatory Bar Council of India, one of its threats, is that in our university, as long as we don't develop such bodies, till then, I have run the department alone for 28 years, after that, the university has stopped, the papers have been said that, all the subjects have been transferred to me, so there are so many challenges in different areas, so I think, that the challenges of the language area, while keeping them in mind, our local language, how we can do some section, text books, faculty, then one digital, as it has started, digital medium as it has started, someone asked me, how long do you want to speak for language, how much time do you need, I said I want to speak for 5 minutes, if you want to speak for 15 minutes, then you have to speak for 15 days, if you want to speak, then you are ready to go, and I have got the idea of the subject, which subject I want to speak in, which subject I want to speak in, and the teacher doesn't leave the class an hour before, and after taking the class for 6 months, after the service, so many things are going on in my mind, so the subjects, they have the time, but on the radio and on the television, you have ended the time in 5 minutes, in front of 500 people, just give me 5 minutes, the last thing I want to say, as it has started with digital device, it has also made the effect of use in the section-per-section, UGC has started with Mook and Swayam, as it has started, through video lectures, we should only say, that we can introduce the environment, ultimately when they go there, only then they will be able to learn, so that will be the situation, the car driver accident in Delhi, how many such things are there, in such a environment, in that there is so much interaction, the future techniques, the challenges of the future, those who can face it, we can be ready for media work, one thing that I often talk about, is the employment, can we talk about that employment, of value-based education, you have all the courses, we are starting with job oriented, the subject of our humility, what will be done in the future, so that we can talk about the emotions or the values of this section, so that those who are worried, are being shown here in the media, may be we can bring them to one level, you gave us the time, thank you very much. , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , 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