 Good morning and welcome everyone Trust that everyone can hear clearly both here on campus as well as online batch So today we will begin with apostolic ministry There are a couple of chapters towards the end of the understanding the prophetic book Which will be done as recordings one or two this week. I'll put it up So you can go through it But the good thing is that since there were many questions, we've kind of addressed those issues those Subjects in our discussions itself. So you may not find it hard to understand it But if you have a query, you can always leave a note on the Google classroom or even ask here in the class We'll address it. Okay. So today since we are going to start the apostolic The first thing that we would need to do is to just download the notes Could you please do that from Google classroom in the classwork section? I've posted it for the e-learning students It will be available on e-learn So once you download it, you can follow along as we talk about the apostolic. So let's Pray and Get right into the subject I'll begin with the word of prayer Above father we thank you. We worship you. We honor you God for Lord your grace upon our lives and father once again Lord, we thank you for Father the very breath in our lungs that we are able to be here Lord learning your word. We pray that Lord The power of the word Lord will be released into our hearts and lives and father as we Understand what the apostolic stands for we pray Lord for the help of the Holy Spirit Lord to to give us a clear Idea so that Lord we can function Lord in this anointing of the apostolic father. Thank you once again for this time in your presence in Jesus name We pray amen Okay So we will talk about the apostolic now we have some idea about the prophetic And as I've been saying though these are subjects that we learn It's good to keep going back to a time and again because with practice With exposure we are going to deepen our understanding we Broadly recognize what the prophetic stands for and how we're supposed to flow in it But the more we get into it the better our understanding becomes so I encourage us that Even though we finish this course keep coming back if there are weekend schools keep attending if there's you know Some seminars or lectures Conferences it's good. It's just good to learn more about the prophetic Similarly about every other subject. So today we are going to touch upon the apostolic. So in the apostolic we begin with an overview of what God is doing in the world and How the Christian church has been through a Restoration over the years right after the Early church days, which we also call as revival. So if you have done Revival visitations and moves of God there is a chapter on just the book of Acts over there because The acts of the Apostles was a time when the glory of God was so heightened There were miracles taking place ever people getting saved by the thousands Society was being impacted leaders were being raised up So amazing amazing things took place and it was it was a revival, you know in in what the Lord was doing and So we see that as a high in Christian history But right after that we noticed that the church went through a period called as the dark ages 400 to 1480 so this was a time when there was persecution there were many struggles and The people who believed in God could not really gather propagate their faith in a strong way So we call them the dark ages, but thank God that the restorative move of God began So from thousand five hundred eighty it's as if God was restoring little by little Different aspects of the church. So there are people who asked the question. There was one sermon preached I'm not wrong. It was twenty twenty one. You can try and go look it up it's about the church, you know how the church will rise up in the last days and even I think it's the book of James. Yeah, the book of James where there's a reference to the harvest okay, so When we learn about the harvest the harvest comes after the latter in falls and The latter in is the move of the Holy Spirit when the Holy Spirit falls on us. There is going to be a very powerful Time where God brings in a lot of people into his kingdom and that's what we're all waiting for the end-time revival and We're waiting for a big harvest that scriptures have promised us and That is going to happen now People ask the question. How can something so mighty happen? How is God going to do all this? Well, when we look at church history, we see that in about 500 years God restored many things and It's amazing that in 500 years so much was restored back to the church and even now God is continuing to you know Restored back things to us. So God is at work. God is you know in in that Place where he is ensuring that the church will rise up With knowledge and strength and you know the grace that we need to see that revival Which is going to take place. So now in those 500 years What are all some of the restorative moves of God that took place? 1500 AD we see the understanding of grace the understanding of salvation salvation by grace through faith happen 1600 Puritan movement where the revelation about baptism in water and separation of church and state was restored 1700s the holiness movement where you have people like John Wesley And all they all stood up and they spoke about how the Christian life must also have holiness It's not just about you know salvation and then we live however we want but holiness is important So there was an emphasis on holiness a thousand eight hundred 80 we see divine healing being restored to the church 1980 the Pentecostal movement and 2000s is when we are saying what is known as some people call it the saints movement and We know that in Ephesians chapter 4 verses 11 and 12 The word of God promises us that God gives the church the five-fold ministry offices and And pay because of the five-fold ministry offices the people of God are going to be equipped Okay, and when people are equipped then what happens people rise up and people begin to do the work of the ministry That's why some people call this call it as the saints Movement because every saint will do the work of the ministry. So from the 2000s That's what we are seeing that many believers are understanding who they are and all believers understand You know our understanding beginning to understand that there is a call of God on their lives and they start to step out But for the equipping of the saints we need the five-fold ministry offices We need the anointing of the fire those offices like we talked about the prophetic anointing Right. So now the emphasis in this section of our courses the apostolic anointing So God is pouring out that anointing God is releasing the apostolic But we have to understand what the apostolic stands for I think I mentioned earlier that when it comes to the prophetic How do we prophesy and you know, what what is prophecy all about? We are still building our understanding of about it. So many times like turns like impartation, right? We would find that those terms don't even exist in languages certain languages because there was no understanding Nobody was preaching about it, but now we are having understanding about those matters So slowly as it's being translated and communicated to various communities We are learning those new terms because of the new understanding similarly when it comes to the apostolic Our understanding is developing You could say yes, we will teach many things in this course But we are still kind of getting more and more clarity about it So that's how we should take it because God is restoring So, you know Different sides of what this is about will become clearer and clearer as we go ahead So whatever is there in the word whatever is there in the history that we will Learn it, but we may see that God can do something new Within the apostolic also something that we have never seen because You know now we are living in the technology age just last year. I think Early last year is when chat GPT became a big deal. Not that it didn't exist before it did exist But it I mean AI existed but it was brought out more, you know to the Brought out to the public In a more accessible way early last year. So similarly, you know, there are many other areas which for the for the Kingdom of God are being explored today because as believers we are exploring all these areas. So The apostolic can be seen in all these areas also Right. So it's emerging in that sense But some of the foundations we are going to learn in our course Fine, so let's just begin with chapter one here. We I'll try to summarize the key themes and keep moving forward. So we are beginning with the understanding that the Lord Jesus is an apostle Okay. Now the Lord Jesus the Beauty of this is that he was in the he was in all five offices Five-fold ministry offices We know the scriptures tell us that Jesus had the spirit without measure So one of the understandings that it brings to us is that the anointing of God upon his life Right. There was no measure for that Just give you the reference Yeah, John 3 34 So when we study his life, you remember he was called as a prophet Isn't it? prophet is not respected in his own You know in his own place who said that Jesus said that so he was calling himself a prophet and And what is he a pastor? Yes, he is. He is a good shepherd Okay, when we study the writings the epistles of Peter will see that he's the chief good He is a chief shepherd of us all so he's in the office of the pastor. Okay. Is he a teacher? Yes, you know, he taught the word of God. He taught with authority. We know people around him recognized Him as a teacher. Was he an evangelist? Yes, he proclaimed the truth of God's word So he's in all the offices. There is no week We can't think of any one person who is in all the offices. Can people be can people have one or two? Such callings in the five-fold ministry office Yeah, so we can have someone who is a pastor Prophet we can have someone who is an apostle teacher But a person who has all five Five-fold ministry anointing is the Lord Jesus. Nobody else is like him who carries the spirit without measure John 3 34 So Jesus was an apostle. We see this in Hebrews chapter 3 and verse 1 So if someone can turn to that passage and read that will be helpful Hebrews chapter 3 and verse 1 Hebrew chapter 3 verse 1. Yes, therefore, holy brethren Particles of the heavenly calling consider the apostle and high priest of our confession Christ Jesus Yeah, that's enough. So as it clearly shows there the apostle of our salvation So the Bible we don't have to guess it anymore. It's already there in scripture that he's the apostle of our salvation So we take it As it is he was an apostle Now the question is we have to understand What is an apostle? Okay, Jesus was an apostle, but what is an apostle? Who is an apostle? So we'll try to build our understanding on that. So the simplest meaning often apostle is representative somebody who is a representative If we break up the word right the Greek word Apostolos from which the word Apostle comes We see that apo stands for from And stallos stands for I send So the understanding of the word is somebody is sent from somebody So John 3 16, what does it say for god so love the world that he gave his only begotten son He gave he sent his only begotten son so apo from Stolos I sent From is who's from in this case in the case of Jesus Yeah, Jesus came from the father He came from the father. He came to represent the father. If you have seen me, you've seen the father Okay, the express jesus the expression express image of god So in every way jesus was a representative Of god the father He came from the father Uh, and he was sent from the father Now that explains why the lord jesus is called as the apostle And high priest of our salvation because he was a sent one a sent one so We're understanding right apostle means representative apostle means somebody who sent from somewhere Apostle means we can also say Delegate who is a delegate Delegate is a representative Who is usually vested with some power and authority we delegate someone To do a work, but when we tell them hey, can you please do this? We give them the authority so if we let's say we Delegate someone to go make a purchase Of some items we give them the the authority. Yes, you can purchase you can make decisions Whether you can buy this or you can't buy that So without authority, it's very hard to delegate because that person will not have he'll have zero power And for everything they'll call you then what's the point of delegating that person? So whenever we delegate someone for any form of a task It comes along with Responsibility and authority So that is who a representative Or or a delegate is So representative is somebody who is representing another person Delegate is someone who has been sent to do the work on behalf of another person. So this word apostolos Uh is also a secular term because it was used by the greeks and the romans in those days And we know that you know back then it was all about military rule. It was all about conquering Uh communities and land and you know Establishing their own kingdom. That's how they function So for the greeks and the romans they would send An envoy okay an envoy is like a military team With the agenda of conquering A land they were representatives of a certain nation They would go to a new nation and conquer. So that was their job. They were called as apostles They were called apostolos. They were sent from the government or the authority of you know one particular Ruler and they'll go to another place They will conquer they'll conquer and What they would also do is see it's one thing to Have a piece of land or Let's take for example That nation one has conquered nation two So they've come into nation two But in nation two They have their own culture. They have their own way of living. They have everything their own So people of nation a have come in And uh, you know, they now what to do In nation two So basically what the envoy used to do is one is of course conquer second is They'll establish their dominion fully So then what they would actually do is they would They would start changing the system Of two nation two How do they change the system of nation two? They would do it by force. They would do it by instruction They would do it by you know changing leaders They would do it by all these methods because what they were actually trying to do is they were trying to um change the culture and the the entire system So that one and two look similar So that that's when they used to say yeah, we've like fully taken over So you no longer have the culture of your Earlier kingdom So they would just override it they will override it They'll say okay, we get done with this old ways All new ways. This is how you should do business. This is how you should do politics. This is how you should you know have education Old education get rid of it. We'll teach our you know our uh teachings So then what happens every generation now begins to think yeah, we're actually we belong to one We belong to nation one. So that's how they used to conquer They used to go to different places establish their own ways All throughout and then that's why you hear things like roman empire Right, so they've conquered pieces of land. They put their Leaders they have their government rule and that's how they did it. So true apostolic was that So it was not just enter one place but establish your own ways in that place so that was apostolic and You had military teams That were called as apostles who would go, you know, it's in other words. Um, we understand Ambassadors have you heard ambassadors nowadays you have ambassadors of various nations? And they are representative of their nation but ambassadors, you know in today's context they come and they dwell in another nation to coordinate and communicate But apostles was more like a powerful term Of conquering and establishing Okay, so I hope we have a better idea of what an apostle was So now in the context of uh, the bible in the context of the kingdom of god in the context of Us as believers What does the apostolic stand for the apostolic broadly stands for establishing the kingdom of god So wherever the kingdom of darkness exists same like how we saw the early apostles Uh military leaders go and take over. We are supposed to go and take over Right, uh, and taking over we are not talking about conquering land or doing things Uh, like in the natural as such but our emphasis is a very spiritual one Where the kingdom of Heaven thy kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven So when we go and establish the kingdom of heaven on earth, what is that? It's apostolic Because who which nation are we representing? It's it's not about any earthly thing But it's more about the kingdom of god. That's what we are Uh focusing in on over here Right, so the kingdom of god can be established in the lives of people can be established in the lives of you know any and every Community so that is the true apostolic now When we look at the bible There were Apostles named in the early church. Who are these apostles? We see a couple of categories So one is known as One set is known as apostles of the lamb apostles of the lamb Can someone please turn to revelation chapter 21 and verse 14 Revelation 21 verse 14 Now the world of the city had 12 foundations And on them were the names of the 12 apostles of the lamb Yes, so you see even there it calls the 12 apostles As the 12 apostles of the lamb So why 12 apostles of the lamb? Yeah, because jesus had 12 disciples So lamb is jesus behold the lamb of god John the baptist said jesus is the lamb of god. So these 12 people are the Apostles so then there's no doubt about it. They are apostles 12 of them Now who are these 12 People ask questions Judas is there or Judas is not there all those questions, right? But like if you look at act chapter one versus 20 to 26 Judas is not there because he betrayed christ, but they do Uh, I mean they pray yeah replacement and matias matias is taken into the 12 So our understanding is uh most likely the 12th one will be matias And not uh Judas Okay, so these 12 people are already the bible is calling them apostles So then we accept it. Yes, they are apostles and they fall under the category of apostles of the lamb And how many are there in that only 12 only 12? So that's clear Okay, great. Now are there more apostles in the bible? first of all jesus then 12 uh apostles then now the bible talks about Founding apostles. There is another category founding apostles. Who are these people? Uh, let's turn to Ephesians chapter 2 and verse 20 Ephesians 2 verse 20. Yes having been built on the foundations of the apostles And prophets jesus christ himself being the chief cornerstone So it's talking about the establishing of the church So how is the church established? How is any building established? So in those days when uh, you talked about architecture, they had this concept of the cornerstone So today we talk about you know, some beams pillars and where weight-wearing walls But those days they had a concept of the cornerstone a lot of the weight of the building would fall on that one uh structure cornerstone So uh, Paul is writing to the Ephesians and he's saying jesus is the cornerstone Everything rests on jesus, but then there is also the foundations of the apostles and the prophets So the church, how is the church built? How is the church standing? There it is standing also on the foundation of apostles and prophets Okay, so Foundation of apostles and prophets who are these founding apostles and prophets we can go back to Those who gave us the doctrines Okay, what are doctrines? What are doctrines? What is our understanding of doctrine? Yeah, correct. In a sense, it's the main teachings the core Teaching like Paul writes to Timothy he says don't ever forget the core teachings that jesus christ died for us You know, he bore our sins he He died he was resurrected These are the core teachings imagine if the church doesn't have this So it's very scary actually the times that we are living in right now people are preaching all kinds of gospels Which does not have the core doctrine and how can you even say that it is biblical? You can't so We must be very careful never to uh manipulate The core doctrine or we are just calling it doctrine Like if if there's no christ if there's no humanity of christ, uh, you know, if if there's no, um jesus dying on the cross and buying our salvation Then what we are believing today doesn't exist only So those are the doctrines These are all key things the blood of jesus like this weekend pastor, please the blood of jesus the name of jesus You know our faith is based on these things And it cannot be like there is we we cannot tolerate Any minor change in the core Right the the doctrine has to be there Who is the father the son the holy spirit? These are non negotiables. That's what the doctrine means That our faith is established on this So when we say founding apostles, there are apostles in scripture who have given us those core Um, you know writings god worked through them inspired them to put it down people like paul Right people like john people like uh, peter you can read all the things that they have written And they've established us in the doctrine of god's word Okay, uh, and that cannot be changed. Those are the founding apostles Now today We may have people who are giving us a depth of understanding Of the core doctrines For example, let's say the blood of jesus Maybe Some of us, you know, we are writing books. We are teaching on it But what exactly are we doing? We are just discovering the depths of what has been established We cannot bring anything New in a sense as in we can't add to the core that has already been given to us so If there is an apostle who is bringing in-depth revelation of god's word While they can be an apostle. They can be a teacher. They can be shedding light on the doctrine They will never be a founding apostle Because founding apostles are Already in history now, you know people like paul and peter and you know john and all already Done it's done founding apostles. We no longer have founding apostles So doctrine is already established Not it. So there's no compromise on it Okay, so this is what the apostles of the lamb the founding apostles very important because what does the bible say Bible says the church is established on apostles prophets and jesus as the cornerstone And there are founding apostles Okay, so let's move on now Does that scripture? Not include other apostles it does but we need to be clear that those who have given the doctrine Have done it already. So Today if somebody comes and says hey, I'm an apostle And I got a revelation from heaven and this teach something new or they teach something contrary To the established doctrine. We cannot accept that Okay, so that's how it works now moving on We have something. Yes Yes Is there anywhere like it was written like there is no add-ons, I mean Like to the bible or to the core doctrines. Is there any verse that says like No add-ons Yeah Which which one she rather See I can think of efficient chapter 4 and verse 13 I'll read it out for you. Okay, maybe 14 verse 14 See in efficient chapter 4 and verse 14. It says earlier it's talking about God has given apostles prophets teachers evangelists pastors For the equipping of the saints so that they can become a mature man fullness of the stature of christ and verse 14 it says That we should no longer be tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine By the trickery of men in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting. That simply means New doctrine every wind of doctrine means Something new is being taught and Paul is saying We should every believer should become so mature That when this new doctrines come We should be able to identify it Otherwise, what will we be like? We will be like He says see like children when children hear something exciting they'll they'll go that side Then somebody else will come they'll say something new they'll go the other side So that is foolishness. That's not a sign of maturity. So don't be tossed to and fro About with every wind of doctrine. So new doctrine and then new things The context here is Paul is Talking to the leaders of the church So this actually if you go back and look at acts chapter 20 Uh, that's the place where Paul goes to meet the efficient elders And if you read what he's speaking to the elders, he says, uh, I am going away But I want to warn you there are going to be he, uh, I forget the word He says something like deceitful wolves Will rise up against you and he's referring to false teachers False prophets and the doctrines which they are going to bring. So in that context We we have to understand efficiency for where he's saying that every believer we should equip them so that they become mature When these teachings come wind of doctrine new things come They should not You know sway the side that side, but they should be strong in what we have already taught them So that's the way Um Peter talks about it in uh Second Peter if you read that book if you read the the writing of Jude Jude talks about it That in the last days, there'll be a lot of false things Going around but One should be established in the core doctrine Yeah So that that way so we are not saying, you know, when we say new Just be careful about new things We're not saying depth of revelation See depth of revelation is fine Doctrine has already established see blood of jesus for example If we go back to the old times if you listen to some of the sermons, there'll be some revelation But as you're listening, right, you'll see that hey new new things. We are this car. It's already there in the bible But we are getting the understanding of it in a stronger way and uh I mean, it's amazing how that same subject somebody once Mentioned this and it's helpful for me They said every word of god just for our understanding think of it like a bucket Right a bucket a bucket full of water so that word uh Is a bucket full of water Maybe the first time you're reading it you get a drop out of it Right the second time you're reading it you get another drop out of it The third time you're reading it you it's the same word. It's the same verse Right. It's the same uh truth But there is depth in it. You're just getting more and more and more now imagine Actually speaking each word of god is not a bucket. It's an ocean Right, so there is no end To the understanding the depth of that word actually So when we are going deeper in the lord scripture says right grow in the grace and knowledge of our lord jesus christ How to grow if there's nothing to learn But the fact is there is so much to learn we'll never we can never reach the end Right, so that's okay when we are going into the depth of the word is okay But wrong doctrine Opposite doctrine Right things that will mess up What has already been established by founding apostles like paul and you know all these other people That we cannot accept. That's what we are seeing. Yeah How to understand this the doctrine won't be changed at any time But the revelation what we are getting or some any people are getting It's from it's from the word only it won't contradict also Like one one time for one one person it'll be different understanding with So we call it new revelations. Yeah, people call it new revelation, but it's actually like depth You're going deeper into the same truth. Truth is not changing So that's fine, but revelations should not contradict the word Whatever people say the revelation we should definitely see the word exactly. Yeah. Yeah We have to Yeah, sure Okay, so I think we've Got that understanding Okay, so then what is the next category of apostles? The next category is Ephesians chapter four Where scripture says god is given to the church Right apostles prophets teachers So that also means that even today There are apostles Because how will the saints be equipped if god does not give You know these these five-fold ministry offices And we are saying that from 2000s god is Re-establishing he's restoring the five-fold ministry offices when we studied about The prophetic We said That there is the office of a prophet So even today we can have some people who are in the office of a prophet That also means that even today There is the office of the apostle And there are people who are in the office of the apostle Right, so there is no scripture that says that After the founding apostles and 12 apostles of the lamb There are no more apostles. There is no such reference Okay, so which is why we do believe that even today there are apostles Among us God calls some people to be apostles in the body of christ What is their work? Same remember we said establishing the kingdom So we'll see we'll see what the anointing carries When we studied about the prophetic we saw The anointing is about revealing the heart of the father Isn't it prophetic you hear from god What are you sensing? What are you seeing? What are you hearing? That's the anointing it brings revelation about what god is saying in the now What is the apostolic apostolic anointing is Carrying the anointing to establish the kingdom Okay, so there are people whose spearhead The establishing of the kingdom in various Areas and Yeah, various spheres around us and Yeah, that is something that we need to accept that there are still apostles just that They cannot add a book to the bible Doctrine, they can't write Okay, they cannot be part of The 12 disciples of jesus but they are apostles Because it's a ministry gift that god gives as per efficient chapter 4 verses 11 and 12 Yeah What we are telling is like of the bible so like I I have this It also long long back. I mean I've read all this but I don't have a satisfactory answer to support all my Answers what we are giving I believe So like if someone is asking what is the need for apostles like reestablishment of god's kingdom So further this five-fold ministry will come then apostles are there. Yes, so Like can we support our statements by any particular verses? That is the first thing and the second thing is if if god's doctrine is already Like there it was established and it was it was not changed It's not gonna. I mean it won't be added anything. So then what is the need of apostles like Other than this carrying gods um Kingdom or gods word other than that. What is the core? reason, I mean what we can give for them like First one is the yeah Scriptures scripture. Yeah to support us. Yeah. See like for it. I go back to efficiency after four versus 11 and 12 God gives gifts to the gifts to the church Apostles prophets teachers pastors evangelists Do we accept there are pastors today? Yes, do we accept there are evangelists today? Do we accept there are teachers today? Do we accept there are prophets today? And why is there such a problem when it comes to apostles? Same verse no same breath. He has given all and uh Like you if there is a scripture that says he is not given or he has stopped Then we can accept it that okay, you know something has changed But when all four other ministry offices, we don't have a problem When it comes to apostle, we have a problem Uh Now I do understand maybe because of again abuse of that office You got it like see when it came to prophecy also, we discussed so much saying Uh, sometimes wrong things are done wrong in a wrong way So for us to accept prophecy become so difficult It's not that god is stopped But the way it has been done is affecting people from accepting it So see this one verse itself is clear, right if all other four we we know that yes god is Having people in those offices Then how can just one office Be exempted even apostle god is sending today They are there Okay, so uh, yeah, so I'll uh, this is the one scripture I can think of if I can think of another I'll tell you the second question you asked is Uh, if they cannot establish the doctrine Right something you said Then what is it? Purpose Yeah, so we we will see uh anand when we do the next chapter We'll study about the characteristics of Apostles in the early times See they have a function What was their function just take for example paul for your understanding i'm saying when you think of paul What do you think of you think of a man who Uh, who has the grace of god to enter new territory He entered like you know, uh, greece. He entered Ephesus he entered Thessalonica, I mean he just kept going moving on near their room He went wherever he went churches were established like some 40 churches, you know he He's connected to leaders were raised up and that is the apostolic anointing We talked about establishing the kingdom So if there's no apostle like paul All this would not have happened Right, I mean god is working through the life of an apostle to Take the kingdom of god From place to place and uh make an impact So that is why we need apostles even today we have some people like that Whom who have the grace of god you you look at them and you go like how you know, how how can they Think like that. How can they move like that? But it's the grace of god on their lives. It's an apostolic grace And it conquers territory spiritual territory what we are speaking about Yeah, so that's how it is We need them we need them in the church. So i'm like like in the in the when we see prophetic So there are stages like all believers can prophesy And then that is the gift gift of prophecy grace gift of prophecy office. Yes So is there something like this in Apostles also Is is is anything is there like that and the other thing is like how we can call people as apostles Like only the only Thing that we can tell is if they establish kingdom of god in a greater way Or is there any other things also like apostles is this so there are so many pastors Who establishes kingdom who establishes a plenty of churches? Yes, okay. So good questions. You'll have to refresh the first question Uh No, there is like in profit a gift of prophecy. All believers can prophesy. Okay, correct Yeah, so see we can make the statement that all believers can be prophetic Yes or no All believers cannot be prophets, but all believers can be prophetic Saying is true for the apostolic All believers cannot be apostles all believers can be apostolic Okay, so we can conquer new new territory for god. It's possible So in our guest lectures most of the time you have people who don't like you think how do they do it In that area that community That's very apostolic something new new ministry So all believers can be apostolic. Uh, and the second question you said That Paul an apostle. Yeah, so how can we call so see we will constantly see Just because a believer is apostolic or a pastor is apostolic. They are not apostle They don't become apostle. So we will see repeated Affirmation of the apostolic characteristics in their lives Okay, then only we can say that this person is an apostle so Generally Generally, how we could says We'll we'll observe the ministry that god has done through the leg for example again going back to back to paul When you see what god did through his life. It's so clear. You can say my goodness. That's an apostle So that's how we recognize usually we have to wait For the work to happen And then we are able to tell that yeah, they are a apostle. Yeah So I mean, it's hard to Say it in the beginning before the work gets done Generally, that's how we do it By the yeah by their work which we understand now, but they were also chosen See, there are two things we'll come to it in the making of an apostle One is through our ministry. We can identify What fruit that person is bearing based on that you can say they are an apostle But also you see many times god already speaks for example Paul Already knew that he's going to be an apostle to the Gentiles I can know that I am called to be a prophet or an apostle or a teacher or whatever but How do I start getting called a prophet or an apostle when I do the work? So there's both ways One may already know that they have a call but for people to call somebody that First the ministry has to happen. No, then only they'll identify. Yeah, you are an apostle Okay, great. So we'll stop at this. I know this is a new subject So think about it read through about it and we'll discuss more in the upcoming classes. So let's pray and close I request one of us from the class to kindly pray today Yeah, honey father. Thank you lord. Thank you for the class. Oh lord. Thank you for all the understanding. Oh lord Help us to get more revelations. Oh lord help us to understand No greater way and a deeper way or lord Help us to glorify you through all these things by knowing a lot I submit the subject and ma'am into your hands in Jesus name. I pray amen Amen. Thank you Bye for now. God bless