 Okay, hello and welcome to this week's edition of Encompass Live. Encompass Live is Nebraska Library Commission's weekly online event where we do presentations and sessions on various library topics of interest to the Nebraska Library world. We do these every Wednesday morning at 10 a.m. central time. They are free one-hour sessions and they are recorded so if you can't attend the live sessions you can also always go in and listen to the recordings afterwards. We do a mixture of presentations, interviews, web tours, many training sessions, anything we can think of or that you may think of that will be of interest to libraries and librarians across the state. This morning we are doing government information for you and your customers. Beth Goble for here and her staff who you can't see on camera are here this morning to talk about all the different resources that they have in their department. So take it away. Hi everybody this is Beth first off I want to tell you this is not going to be a workshop it's just an informal tour of some of the government information services that we provide here and maybe hopefully show you some cool sites that you can use with your customers or help your customers know how they can find government information on their own. So yeah we've got a fairly large crew here and first off we'll just all introduce ourselves and I'll mention that the first four people are all people on the documents team what we call it around here and Emily is our cataloging librarian who's actually a colleague of Chris's on the network services team or whatever you guys are calling yourselves now. That's what we are for now. I'll just tell you a little bit about myself and I know some of you are regular so you've already seen me on a couple of these other ones and on the Meet the Commission one but I am Beth Goble and something that you might not all know about me is that I'm originally from Alberta Canada I have lived here for nearly 30 years and Nebraska and I've got two lovely granddaughters I always like to brag about and I've been doing something to do with government documents for most of my library career my very first job out of library school but and they didn't tell me this until the day I showed up for work and this was Kingston Public Library in Kingston Ontario Canada and I was the new reference librarian there and they said oh by the way we didn't tell you till you got here that you're gonna have to catalog our government documents oh and they were they were Ontario government documents and a few Canadian national government documents and we even got a few pamphlets from the US government so that was my first intro to government documents and hey I'm still doing it so they they can be pretty interesting didn't scare you away no and we kept most of them in this this dungeon down in the basement the the library was an old dairy building and there were no windows and and it was really like going down to a dungeon there but hey I came back so anyway that's me let Bonnie introduce herself and we'll just go around yeah I'm Bonnie Hanzel I've been with the library commission since 1997 yes prior to that I was in technical services at first-aid college library I am married and have three kids and some of you know her from the terror board they didn't want you to see him today I'm Laurie sailors and I've been at the library commission since 1979 I think our director Rod Wagner and Laurie and Burn bias or maybe the three it's Rod Burn and I so in that order okay I've worked in government documents the whole time they've been there so you know a little bit would say that one time that now it's strictly federal and manuals and I have been with the commission for eight years and I am married and have a seven-year-old daughter I'm Emily names the content I'm probably the newest one here I just started at the commission last October I'm cataloging librarian and I make sure all the good docs are accessible through our catalogs and I am married with no kids just a cat okay oh this is Beth yeah I'm married too I didn't intentionally leave that out I am and I've got a cat in a dog so there you go I'm a legitimate librarian I've got pets okay yeah next slide and some of you I think Ellen you may have been watching these just about from day one is this is the mug shot of the documents team so you can see for yourself who we all are and my apologies Emily's not in here but as I mentioned actually she's she's in a different she is in a different team but she's still part of our team too so we'll just move on now and tell you a little bit about the Nebraska Publications Clearinghouse Service and keep going she's moving my coffee cup well this way you can talk yeah right the reason we're called the Nebraska Publications Clearinghouse Service is because that was the name of the service that was set up in 1972 by a state statute that directed the library commission to begin this Clearinghouse Service and to do two things and one of them was that we would become a depository library with the federal depository program and the other one was that we would become we would start ourselves a Nebraska Publications program so as far as the federal depository program goes as we we were a very large selective in fact at one time and Lori can chime in because she knows everything about yeah we were actually a joint regional with University of Nebraska Lincoln although I suppose that wasn't we weren't legally a joint regional because I think that's still an issue with the feds and that's all technical stuff that probably doesn't interest you but at any rate there was a time when we were selecting 100% of the documents that were put in the federal depository program and that is a program that is run by the government printing office in Washington DC and most federal agencies are directed to provide copies of publications that they produced and I think it's the same kind of criteria that we would use it can be statutes reports things that are multiply produced and intended for public distribution so you know the classified CIA reports are not going to be in there and there's always lots of controversy about what gets in the program and what doesn't but it is thousands and thousands of things every year well back in the 80s I believe we just didn't have room for all those documents so we the University of Nebraska Lincoln became the regional depository which means they do they're required to get 100% of everything that's put in the program and we became a selective and over the years we have cutback on our selection profile and we did a big cutback a few years ago because we're close enough to the UNL library that we don't need to be both collecting a lot of the same things so we're now pretty small we collect about 2% of what is put in the program so just as an example last year we added less than 800 documents and there were years ago it was thousands and now it's we concentrate on things that our customers are most likely to need so that's what we get for the federal depository program and I'm going to show you a couple of resources related to the government printing office later on another thing and Lori's going to have to help in with this because I didn't look up the date when we became a census data center back in the 80s okay that's a good decade that was a good decade no it was prior to 80 because they were in the 80s census okay we as far as I know this is something that is is that is operated through the census the federal Census Bureau and every state has a census data center and actually we are not the center we are what's called a census data affiliate so the the center is located at the Center for Public Affairs Research at UNO and it is now I think it was at UNL at one time it's now at UNO and we are an affiliate and that just means that we have agreed that we will provide census information and information services for people in this area so we we work with them and they have an annual conference every year that we attend or if somebody comes from the Census Bureau and gives us an update on what's new with the census and if we have time today I'll probably give you a quick tour of the census website too so the one that we currently spend the most most of our time on is the Nebraska Publications Program and that is something that we were directed to do and what we do is collect publications from Nebraska State Agency so we are like the GPO for the state of Nebraska and we collect things that are multiply produced and intended for public distribution so a lot of annual reports we still get newsletters we get directories and you're gonna see one that Bonnie is gonna show you later and we have a pretty large collection of those now and we don't weed those when we get those we are committed to keeping those forever so that they'll be available to Nebraska and so right now we have about 153,000 state publications in our collection and we used to do a microfiche distribution program to 13 other depository libraries and back in 2005 we started doing something different with those we still have a good relationship with those depositories but we've expanded the program and it's now an EPUBs program and I think at this point I'm gonna give Bonnie a chance to tell you a little bit about that she's the one who's responsible for that. Okay the E publications program is what I do is I basically will go out and search the agency websites and find out if the document is electronic and if it is I will download make a copy of their file and download it to our server so that way we can guarantee that it we downloaded to our server so that we know that it will not disappear and another thing I do is instead of the microfiche program we now do a CD that is distributed to the depositories that want one. Basically we have only four that are asking for it mainly the university. Mainly the universities but one good thing about the EPUBs program is even if you're not a depository you can still have access to those electronic documents because they are put in our catalog and we do have an update list that is on the EPUBs site. I think as Krista tells you every week that the links that we're going to be going to today most of them are on our delicious account so we'll be able to see them later. Okay this outlines pretty much what our program is about. Can you scroll down? What was the update part? There's the eDoc alerts list is something that I put up and it will it's a listing of all the new documents that we've added to our catalog and are available online. Can you click on the update? These are the most recent ones that have been collected and burned onto a CD and it's this list will stay up there and you can you should be able to go directly to the images from here and this would be what you would come up with the electronic version of the biennial report. I think it's all public library folks listening in today and I don't know how often you might get asked for this kind of information but if one Bonnie maybe taking some words out of her mouth but one of the advantages to this ePubs program is that you don't have to be a depository library to use these. You can go in and look at these eDocs alert lists you'll see those same URLs and what's up doc and we'll show you that in a minute to our blog that has listings in it and you can take the you can download those records into your own online catalog so if there's certain things that you know your customers would really be looking for you don't have to take them all you could be selective and actually we'll give you the OCLC numbers so you could actually add selectively add some of these online publications to your own catalog. In the alert list there are serial like the annual reports and stuff there's one there wouldn't be one link that would give them a list of all. It's a little hard to see here and you'll be able to see better. The audit report of the state college system go to that one it's an HTML you would get instead of the going directly to the document it would bring up a listing of all the reports that we have electronically for each year not what you only have to go and you're not trying to decide which is the most recent because it will show you which one is newest. So personally for some reason you wanted to have the audit reports of the state college system in your catalog that's the URL you could use and then you would never have to go in and change it because Bonnie just keeps adding to it every time she gets a new one. So for now that probably tells you enough about the the state e-pubs program. Yeah I thought maybe Jennifer and I could both talk about this. We used to have a by monthly publication called what's up jock we are actually required by that state statute to maintain a listing of all the new state government publications that we received. So we used to do it as a newsletter that came out every other month and a few months back we changed it to a blog and it gives you exactly the same information it also has some news items in there. Yeah I just put up a posting about the Google data search being launched which is kind of a cool thing you can do with Google now to look for mainly statistics from the the federal government and then not you see links like this if you want to just click on that one that says new publications received. Yeah and Jennifer can tell you a little bit about this she prepares these lists. Well I just um to type up these lists of the publications that you know the state publications that we received. There's very few federal publications that go in there anymore since we don't select very many and I just type up this list and here it is. And it looks a lot like those that Bonnie was showing you. You can see the LC numbers in there and also the hot link to it and you can easily see the difference between the ones that end in HTML those are the ones that are going to go to one of those index type lists so there's probably going to be multiple ones and if it just says PDF at the end that means we don't um it's just a one-time publication so far and eventually Bonnie might make an index page if we get more of them. So that's another way you could find out what if you saw something in here that you're interested in adding to your own catalog that would give you an idea of what they what they are and that's probably about all we need to say about what's up doc right now you can find what's up doc from our main from that EPUB's page that Bonnie just showed you we linked to it from there you can also find it from the main library commission site just like I think if you went to our publications and you could find it from there too and I'm assuming you could find it by searching too yeah so now the that link goes to the blog and then archived issues goes to when we were still producing individual print issues that's our way of letting people know what's new at the library commission so and Laurie probably remembers coming up with that name what's up doc that was that was even before Laurie okay okay okay okay so why don't we go to the the next slide see the PowerPoint now we're going to get into the fun stuff that you'll find more useful probably and that is what government information services you can get or you can refer your customers to from the library commission and I'm hoping that you all know about the ask a librarian link that's directly off the nlc website and why don't we just go there and I'm not if you don't mind yeah that one okay and hopefully you're all familiar with this that you can use this to chat with us you can use it to email with us and as far as the government information goes it's there aren't separate people here who only answer government information type questions is myself and Lisa and Julie are the ones that that get your emails if you use this online form and I know many of you use the same forms to submit questions you also use the interlibrary loan forms all that stuff goes to the same three people and the email for this one as you probably know is ready at nlc.state.ne.us you can chat we could chat if you want sure it's either Julie or Lisa they were kind of fighting about who was going to be down there at 9 30 so it's Lisa we just looked through the window we're any of you that ever been have been here our meeting rooms got windows where you can see down into the reference area hi okay just telling him yeah you just did okay and then of course you can call us on our 800 number and so on so we can just go say goodbye to them for now okay yeah and just go back to our slide oh yeah well or I can just well another thing that that is interesting I guess about about our service is we lend out just pretty much everything we have a very few things that we don't lend out like the US code in print which is the US statutes but nearly all of our collection is for loan so in addition to all those electronic publications Bonnie makes sure that we have a print copy as well and a lot of times I think she has to print that off from the agency's website because they're not as good as they used to be about supplying us with print copies of stuff that oh well it's on the internet you know they don't have to give it to us but so there is a very large collection there and just about all of it is for loan and we have things that probably other libraries have but they wouldn't lend out we even have a set of the of the Nebraska statutes that we lend out and we also get as part of our program we've really had great collaboration with the University of Nebraska press and we have a really large collection to going back to 1972 of University of Nebraska press publications we're a little selective about which ones we get from them but we do we do you can either interlibrary loan that through regular interlibrary loan channels or you can actually tell your your customers they can do direct loan with us in other words they can just phone us up or email with us and we'll do a direct loan and they don't have to go through their home library for an interlibrary loan we'll do it direct and of course it's all free we will do a certain amount of government information research for people this is an exception to our usual ready reference where if it's just somebody coming in to ask us anything at all we would probably not spend more than five or ten minutes on it but if it's government information we do a few things that are a little more lengthy and one of those is they're called legislative history and Laurie has been through the trenches with how to do a legislative history on with federal documents but does anybody know what a legislative history is anybody out there you can answer um in the text chat if you do know or if you want to guess I suppose yeah well I again I don't know how likely this would happen in your library that if somebody came to you and said I want to know the history of how the legislature passed the the smoking ban the statewide smoking ban and supposing it was like three years from now and they're asking about that what you would have to do is is find copies of the legislative journal and find the days that that was discussed in a committee meeting or on the floor of the legislature you'd have to get the number of the bill that's all the type of research you'd have to do and we actually have microfilm here that we buy from the clerk of the legislature that's got transcripts of the floor debates on the legislature and very few libraries have that we're one of only six in the state that has those and we also have transcripts of the committee hearings so doing a legislative history for somebody on a bill is a fairly time-consuming process and I'm not saying we do a lot of these but we will spend probably up to an hour hour and a half just on on it or we'll invite somebody to come in and we'll help them use the microfilm here so we'll do we'll do more extensive government research than we would just for regular ready reference things okay now um we want to talk a little bit about some other services that we do and I wanted to turn over this over to Jennifer now and talk about some of the special things we do for people I have been doing some scanning we're doing the governor's addresses to the legislature and I think if you go to Nebraska access okay we can show you how to find that and you scroll down to the search and then um type in governor now we're going to use the Nebraska access the jumping off point for a lot of uh the things we're going to show you today and it's the second one down where can I find the governor's address to the legislature and right now we just have up there so 2003 but I have scanned several more back to the 40s I believe but just have not been put on up there yet so we'll be getting those up there soon and also I keep um I keep a site up called legislature's past and present while you're navigating to that I'll just jump in and say the reason why this little website exists is we create these little websites in the brass access it used to be called best of a web um it's it's based on customer customers asking us we've been asked several times about for inaugural addresses and they're oftentimes they're graduate students sometimes from other states that are doing research and as I mentioned it can be pretty time consuming to dig out those legislative journals that's where these are these features and photocopy them and fax them to somebody so we're being more proactive now with this type of thing is if somebody's asked us for it several times well we might as well get them up on the web so that other people can find them okay and then for the legislators past and present the site just type in senator and first one where is the list of Nebraska senators and this list is just all of the senators past present and this is jennifer's site that she asked to do just some basic information of when they the time they served on this you can search it what it does it just right now it just jumps you to the letter of the outfit so you have to scroll down to find the next type in so that it will take you just to that letter again it's not a very precise search and then you just have to scroll down to find 30 I'll do a control F to get there and this list is getting longer and longer we do have plans to turn this into an ASP database that will do more precise searching but we found genealogists like this site because it's um we're hoping to take it further back in time right now it just goes back to the unicameral 1937 but we'd like to get all of the state legislators in there eventually and there are thousands of them it's amazing when you go farther back just how many there are that's an example those are two examples of sort of special projects we do uh or the standing on demand as we call it when we when christa did that that search um further back that uh showed you the governor's addresses there was also one there called governor's executive orders and that's was one that bonnie created by scanning um governor's executive orders that top one so we don't need to spend a lot of time on it but that's just a so some of these pages are actually the result of some scanning work that's been done for us there's now one on with uh biographies from nebraska blue books that julie has worked on so that's part of our services so let's move on next slide i bet this is exactly the same list you have except maybe you leave genealogy on your list is that so do any of you do legal consultations or medical consultations i sure hope not and uh the reason genealogy is on there is simply because we don't have genealogical resources at the library commission other than those nebraska blue books that have um pictures of state legislators we really don't have much here that would help a genealogist so we spend more time referring them to other places that have that information we can move on okay now uh we just want to show you a couple of uh we're gonna go back to nebraska access um we're gonna do a search so i will mention while we're over there just scroll back up in nebraska access in case we run out of time you see that there's a we have a a lot of web pages in nebraska access that are state government related and federal government related we also have this thing called a related resource over on the side that state government publications and if you clicked on that that will go directly to an online list that's maintained by bonnie of state government publications so that's a quick way to find state pops online is you can link to it you can find it directly from nebraska access and we will come back to that in a minute so going down and searching using the search box i said we've got a lot of federal state and local level websites so i thought i just um i looked at our twitter account to see what kind of questions we've been getting and we've had just in the last week it's been really busy we've had about 40 questions that came in one way or another and i would say at least 30 of them were government information related and one that we've had twice in the last week sadly is how do i get on food stamps so i added some more information to nebraska access and that's a few typed in food stamps and you know anybody can use this um then you get to one of our pages and i added you might have to do a control to find it but um um yeah yeah right yeah and they have if you went to that page there's a link there because both both questions i got was how do i apply online and they have i believe they have a food stamp link here and if you if you went there they actually have online forms that people can fill out and print off and then they're supposed to mail them or take them to their local um health and human services office and there's also a link to where those offices are so i don't know if you all are getting questions like that with the economy the way it is but we're sure seeing a lot of those kinds of questions now yeah okay um we're also getting a question we get questions on tax forms and we don't need to go through them all but the same kind of thing if you get asked for tax forms you could use the just use that search box and type in tax forms and you would find ways to find both federal and state tax forms and sometimes we get really specific questions we had one last week on i have new employees that had asked about publication 919 and 972 when completing your w4s and we get some really specific questions so we try to have resources like this available um oh just last week we had how to get unclaimed property and we're not going to search in all these because it's two questions on food stamps reverse certificates death certificates that's when we get a lot both from genealogists and other people just needing copies of their own maybe because they're trying to get on the social services and they need those that information property tax information or property assessments we've got a there are a lot of different assessors in the counties now that have their property assessment values up online and one of my kids is now shopping for a house so every time he goes to an open house and we get back in on the Lancaster County property assessment site to find out what the assessor says the house is worth so that can all be found just by searching in Nebraska access okay let's go to the next slide I would be remiss if I didn't show you the official state of Nebraska website and it's there's its url there so if we could go to that website but some of you may have been here a lot of the questions we get are from people who have been on this site and not found what they needed yet so they're they ask us a question it does take a long time to load they have a lot of graphics it's very graphics heavy yeah so I would encourage you to go and take a tour of it uh while we're waiting for it to come up I can tell you that they group the services on there across the top basically by who you are are you a citizen are you a business person are you somebody who's moving to Nebraska are you a visitor who's just looking for tourism type information you can see those links there they do that um they've also got um yeah we don't need to go into those in any depth I did want to show you that they have um some how do eyes a little further down and if you go to and these are customized depending on which user group you're in so you can see how they change when you go in there and actually some of those link back to some of our Nebraska access stages so we do work in cooperation with them and if you want to just click on the more how do eyes for businesses there uh oh okay it's really hard to see because they've chosen to do this black background but in that upper right hand corner there's that stack of books and it says reference desk well that's us and so we're getting more and more of of those we had this goes to a different email address that still goes back to Beth and Lisa and Julie or Lisa Julie and Beth whoever depending what day it is um it's just got a slightly different uh address so we can track whether or not they're coming off of this page so we could go ahead and chat with uh it's Lisa right yeah so we won't I don't have to bother again you don't have to bother again um but in April we had uh 44 questions that we know came in off of this site from people in I don't know that was March in April we had about 30 and so far in May things are really ramping up we've had 21 questions that we know came in off of off of there so you can refer people to ask questions from there too and now I'm going to turn it over to the rest of the folks here and they're going to talk about their favorites I have a funny story about the world back book I've worked with government publications federal documents like I said since the dawn of time and one day my daughter decided that she had to do well she had to do a report on a another country comes home and she told me about this new website that they found and all this wonderful information but it was top secret for just you know certain kids in her class well it ended up being the world back book which has been out there in print and is now only available online so we can take a look at it are any of you familiar with the world back book nobody's talking to okay from this page you can select a country up from the top and I'm just gonna we're just gonna select Afghanistan because it's kind of a popular topic right now just to give you an idea what's kind of on here you'll always get a map at the beginning of the page and if you want okay okay there's always a map on the first page and then as you go through it you will get all the little information that you need like the background of the country the economics what they you know how much land you know it's like right here it's a slightly smaller than Texas every I don't know where they get this information but they have it they have the climate they have whatever and usually when your child or your somebody comes in they have to know the terrain the climate the economics the how much money they make per person everything and this is really a good publication that will give you just the basic facts of what you want for a country and so like here's the birth rates the death rates the median age you know look at that 17 years they only live to like 40 something I think in Afghanistan that's the average age life expectancy 44.64 years this is that's just amazing and it's probably because of all the fighting and stuff over there I don't know that was an editorial comment but anyway if you ever have anybody who comes into your library and is looking for you know pretty can you know information about a country and they don't need long editorials or whatever this is a great publication that you can refer your people to so you could use the search box in Nebraska access so you essentially get navigated to this publication yeah yeah because we do have a page in there that's a link to federal resources and this is one of the have listed on there so you don't have to remember the best you can find it by in the grass to access but it's the on here you also have the flags of the world there's a lot more information that you know and you can also download this publication if you really wanted to and have it you know accessible without going online so there's a lot a lot of there you know there's a lot of good information on there but I had to tell you my story about my daughter okay I'm passing this on and Bonnie's gonna tell you how to snoop on some of your France right one of one of the most um weighted on state documents comes out about every August or September and that's the University of Nebraska personnel roster and I have people starting end of July emailing me when's it gonna be out when's it gonna be out because I'm the only one who puts it up it is not available electronically through the university no they tell people to they tell people to check with us yeah so this is it gives listings of all of their personnel and what their salaries are do you want to search anybody you can find out exactly how much they make and you it should be keyword searchable so if you go there and search polinbo Polini P. E. L. I just want L I'm a bad we figured he stayed because it could be well known in ways this is a fairly large document through several hundred pages so they made to take a while for you to load yeah this is one publication that the university does not make electronic so it's one of my big scanning projects every year I didn't know his name was really mark well this is a fond of information look oh and I saw that one million one million yeah one foot one three eight five there you go this is when I get a lot of emails prior to it it's going up I think this last year I had maybe eight to a dozen people wanting to know when it was going to be available and they just will not wait so this this has the entire annual system for you and k the med center you and oh you and i don't lock out of it hold on it okay a typical nickname between the mark anybody no worries from it's a little hot might have been a name in both his name I think his real name is mark Anthony because his dad's name was made up okay well maybe your name was mark Anthony that's a rather inauspicious name if you know anything about about world like history his fate wasn't too good okay that's my one of my top one so I think Emily's turn now sure okay what I'm showing off is not so much a favorite resource is just I wanted to make sure everybody was aware of the fact that these resources are also available through the library commission's catalog on our website so if you would take us out to the homepage yeah and search the catalog along the side there it is okay eventually I'm not as good as Beth would come here with filler material here there we go okay um if you do a title search for uh Nebraska population report in quotation marks and probably held I'll let him close I feel like it does this out and you get a bunch of other ones I don't think it's simple on people um no s I don't think at least reports yeah I kind of went through my recent things I was working on in the fine one we have to say since Emily joined us you know we need most of you probably know that Debra Riggles was in that transition period when moved on so to speak and we did get a bit of a backlog of eight combinations but since she's been here I don't know how many hundreds she's cataloged but I think we're up to pretty current staff now okay so if you click on the details button this you'll get the full record basically just want to point out you'll see up at the top it shows print copies are available but if you scroll down on the whole record the big whole page yeah there's also the web link at the bottom and this is where all Bonnie's hard work with the e-pubs comes in something like this you'll see is an html so it has the index page which will be updated by Bonnie so it's continually current in our records and so that's just a quick example of what you'll find if you come to our catalog I'll tell you note you may see again here here's that ask the librarian chat box that we were playing with on the other page it's all every page apparently not every page now on the catalog I guess yeah um so anytime you're in here and you're like I'm not sure I don't know how do I use this type in there and Lisa who's down there or whoever's on the desk can answer chat with you right here from within our catalog if you're having trouble or questions about how to navigate it and get around it it's also really nice when it comes up when you get a search that has no results yes we do if it's working properly actually you don't see that when we're closed so you're right that if you're if there's nobody on duty you won't see that because yeah you can't see anything so we're not and if we don't want to disappoint people if you know they try to chat and nobody answered that's that doesn't look too good so it should only show up when there's actually somebody there who can chat I'm done okay okay does anybody have any questions for us okay does anybody have any questions about anything they talked about today um for anybody here or anything they didn't talk about that maybe you were wanting to hear about feel free to um go ahead and type into the text chat any questions you might have we can wait for you to do that okay um I had one more page I just wanted to let you know about if we had time so uh Christa this you can just get to this from the main nlc page it's I didn't give Christa this link because I wasn't sure if you were going to have time to get to it so if you just started here I went to search this site and just typed in government resources let's see what happens okay um that's actually not the one I want so would you back out of here I'm gonna do a search of here or no I want you to use the links for librarians instead yeah that one you know we've made some changes to our website and we've now kind of split out some of the things that used to be in what we used to call best of the web the ones that are more librarian related uh are now uh in this section called links for librarians so if you would do a search in there and now type government resources that's weird um it worked for you right that's what you wanted right yes and I think I must have put in references resources for reference librarians in a prior search and it came up higher but anyway I just wanted to show you where this is this is a little page that I put together quite a long time ago but I I've tried to keep it updated and if you want to scroll down a little bit because it actually has links to a lot of the stuff that we talked about today so this could be if you wanted to bookmark this page for some reason this goes to some of our favorites uh that eef pubs program um a couple of other pages I've put together uh there's one government links for kids that might interest you there that I just thought we probably wouldn't have time to show you that today but that has both some federal and the end's guide to U.S. government is done by the government printing office and it's a really good site there's that cia world factbook there's something the kids should all know about I just like molly found out on her own and it's it's secret though yeah because it's a cia is yeah who knew um there's a huge site um it's sort of an aggregate site that that has all sorts of government statistics on it they've actually got a kids site kids.gov um there's yeah an indian lula the unicameral has one too that takes you to history of the unicameral you know we're the only place in the nation that's got the one house government and that writing a report on nebraska is is a nebraska access page that we put together that's got all kinds of cool stuff there and a lot of it is government related stuff so you know if you're interested um in that resources for government resources for reference librarians um that might be one you'd want to bookmark if you wanted to I think that's all I have to say okay does anybody have any questions comments anything um you can go ahead and type in the text chat um any last questions you may have okay very quiet group today I guess good job thank you thank you oh you're getting applause there from people now thanks thank you um okay I guess you covered everything you ever wanted to know about gov dot and more that you didn't want to know thanks for listening so does and no um crofford do you have a question you can type into the text chat if you want oh yep I'll have her down for attending ellen yep no problem okay we had a full group today everybody who signed up actually came that's great doesn't happen every week okay well thank you very much um you can contact anyone here on the list if you do have any future questions that you come up with um after the session's over it is recorded so um that will be available for you to listen to and I hope that you will join us next week when our topic it will be how to lead a book group for adults and kids um so see you here again next Wednesday thank you very much bye